Pixel 5 Support - LineageOS Questions & Answers

I’m in the market for a new phone and would like to use LineageOS or possibly GrapheneOS and I like the security of the Pixel 3+ line. I need the fingerprint reader, so Pixel 4 line isn’t really an option, so I’m considering Pixel 3/3a XL or the 5. What I’m wondering is whether any developers are gearing up to support Pixel 5 LineageOS and what opinions are on the likely timeframe for that given the recent flood of support for the Pixel line. Are we talking weeks, months, or a year before it’s realistic to run LineageOS reliably on the Pixel 5? What’s been the timeframe for other new phones in the past?

joltman said:
I’m in the market for a new phone and would like to use LineageOS or possibly GrapheneOS and I like the security of the Pixel 3+ line. I need the fingerprint reader, so Pixel 4 line isn’t really an option, so I’m considering Pixel 3/3a XL or the 5. What I’m wondering is whether any developers are gearing up to support Pixel 5 LineageOS and what opinions are on the likely timeframe for that given the recent flood of support for the Pixel line. Are we talking weeks, months, or a year before it’s realistic to run LineageOS reliably on the Pixel 5? What’s been the timeframe for other new phones in the past?
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Pixel 5 ships with android 11. So there will be no official lineageOS as long as 18.x isn't officially released. Maybe next year.

kurtn said:
Pixel 5 ships with android 11. So there will be no official lineageOS as long as 18.x isn't officially released. Maybe next year.
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Thanks! Does that mean it would be impossible for LineageOS 17.1 (Android 10 based) to work on a Pixel 5 or that it’s unlikely that anyone would bother wasting their time on a short lived endeavor?

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Android P for Oneplus 5T

Guys i was wondering about android p update for oneplus 5t, since 2 major android updates are usual norm for the companies and from oreo its an option to support project treble if the phone is being updated to oreo and mandatory if the phone ships with oreo, now, according to this post https://www.phonearena.com/news/Goo...s-In-Android-9.0-Make-It-More-Closed_id101816 its being said that android p will mandate the support of project treble that means the phone should support project treble regardless of being updated to android p or shipping with the same.
Now the problem arise when oneplus couldn't support project treble with oreo update for oneplus 5t due to partitioning issues. If this is the scenario then theoretically oneplus 5t won't be able to taste android p officially (since project treble is mandatory) and will it end up being the case of oneplus 2 wherein it couldn't taste android nougat ?
Correct me if i'm wrong since i am on oneplus one and now, looking to upgrade and this time seems fit as oreo's project treble would revolutionize the custom rom's department also i simply couldn't deviate from oneplus phones, hence thinking about waiting for the successor of oneplus 5t as it would definitely ship with oreo hence project treble goodness or oneplus 5t could be updated to android p hence having support for project treble.
Oneplus one still holds good for me till date and no need to upgrade if it wasn't for project treble (and 64 bit architecture also).
So what are your thoughts on this ?
I think you're getting way ahead of yourself. Yes it's true that 1+ is not supporting project treble for the foreseeable future but there are two important things to understand.
First, having an OEM support project Treble does not imply that device will get faster updates. manufacturers will still control the compiling and rollout of updates and they will always add their own tweaks and skins which will take time. All PT will do is taking care of the Hardware Abstraction Layer.
Secondly, even though OnePlus phone updates track record isn't impeccable, they're upgrading the 3/3t and 5/5t to Oreo in a fairly timely matter so it's very unlikely that they will abandon two phones that would be around one year old without the newest update.
In any case, all upcoming phones from OnePlus will have to support Treble so the issue will be short lived.
I think that if they want to ALL phones can be re-partitioned for treble, it would however involve a complete loss of all information on the phone and effort on the part of the companies.
For most users this would be unacceptable as it would involve backing up ALL data , settings and contacts on the phone. It would be time intensive and require effort on the OEM's so these companies just go the easy route and say it can't be done...
Nice way of making a butt-load of cash off the next version of phone released too...
Just one company to get the ball rolling would definitely hurt all others if they did this though...
Oos does not even have oreo... And the open beta they call oreo its nougat..
don't expect it lol
Seriously, we don't even have Oreo yet and you are worried about P?
An official release of Android P for a Oneplus device, is over a year away, minimum... Most of us won't even have this phone by then, having upgraded to a newer one.
oreo itself is a dream.
I was just ensuring that the device i go for will be future proof. I don't feel the need to upgrade a phone until major advancement in the field, i still don't fell the urge to upgrade until it was for project treble which seems promising, alongside backed by 64 bit architecture, display ratio etc etc.
So maybe a safe side would be to wait for the oneplus 5t successor.
arjun said:
I was just ensuring that the device i go for will be future proof. I don't feel the need to upgrade a phone until major advancement in the field, i still don't fell the urge to upgrade until it was for project treble which seems promising, alongside backed by 64 bit architecture, display ratio etc etc.
So maybe a safe side would be to wait for the oneplus 5t successor.
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I'm in your boat. Despite what OnePlus 5t owners say, treble is a big deal. Manufacturers have already come out and said that it's going to make it much easier. That's why all phones starting with 8.0 will have dual partitions. If you can wait, then you should wait for 8.0+ released devices, or phones that currently implement dual partitions. Essential phones are already prepared for Treble, but they've got some QC issues to solve with their overall hardware, so I'd stay away from them.
JoRocker said:
I'm in your boat. Despite what OnePlus 5t owners say, treble is a big deal. Manufacturers have already come out and said that it's going to make it much easier. That's why all phones starting with 8.0 will have dual partitions. If you can wait, then you should wait for 8.0+ released devices, or phones that currently implement dual partitions. Essential phones are already prepared for Treble, but they've got some QC issues to solve with their overall hardware, so I'd stay away from them.
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yeah yeah yeah man, you perfectly get me, even i'm skeptical about essential phone despite project treble support, even asus zenfone 4's oreo update brings project treble but not in the way treble's to be implemented.
But the thing bugs me that will 1+5/5T be updated to android p or not since android p will surely bring treble support, because treble + 6 years for LTS for kernels = long live device and probably no need to upgrade phones that frequently.
I guess i'll wait for 1+6 then.
thanks for sharing same mindset bro ! :good:
OnePlus 6 will surely be out b4 Android P, shoot probably even the 6T, and the OP6 and beyond will surely support project treble. Patience is the key.
Who cares about project treble and OxygenOS.. we will always have LineageOS. Chill...
Enviado desde mi ONEPLUS A5010 mediante Tapatalk
alexiuss said:
Who cares about project treble and OxygenOS.. we will always have LineageOS. Chill...
Enviado desde mi ONEPLUS A5010 mediante Tapatalk
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project treble means better lineage os support with minimal to no hacks (shimming) to get things working.
Tell me that doesn't sound good.
Airwolf79 said:
OnePlus 6 will surely be out b4 Android P, shoot probably even the 6T, and the OP6 and beyond will surely support project treble. Patience is the key.
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OP6 is supposed to be released end of March approximately. I would bet dollars to donuts, if they got their act together, it will have Oreo/Treble. Otherwise, they are falling behind the premier makers that will support treble, like the Pixel 2 does now. See what Samsung does with the S9 in the very near future, not sure if it will have treble. If so, it kind of forces OPs hand to have Treble on it's next flagship. Just a thought anyway.
AS far as 5T....well, Oreo is probably good enough for the life of the phone IMO if they get it legit working.
fuarkgl3 said:
Oos does not even have oreo... And the open beta they call oreo its nougat..
don't expect it lol
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techlogik said:
OP6 is supposed to be released end of March approximately. I would bet dollars to donuts, if they got their act together, it will have Oreo/Treble. Otherwise, they are falling behind the premier makers that will support treble, like the Pixel 2 does now. See what Samsung does with the S9 in the very near future, not sure if it will have treble. If so, it kind of forces OPs hand to have Treble on it's next flagship. Just a thought anyway.
AS far as 5T....well, Oreo is probably good enough for the life of the phone IMO if they get it legit working.
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OP6 got to have treble if they launch it with oreo, else google won't certify their software.
SquireSCA said:
Seriously, we don't even have Oreo yet and you are worried about P?
An official release of Android P for a Oneplus device, is over a year away, minimum... Most of us won't even have this phone by then, having upgraded to a newer one.
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??????? Qui ????????
arjun said:
??????? Qui ????????
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Turns out for me, I don't even have the OP5T anymore because it can't do VoLTE on AT&T.
SquireSCA said:
Turns out for me, I don't even have the OP5T anymore because it can't do VoLTE on AT&T.
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there are rumors about the fact that oneplus will partner with major US carriers for their next flagship, either way OP6 is gonna be a bomb.
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there are rumors about the fact that oneplus will partner with major US carriers for their next flagship, either way OP6 is gonna be a bomb.
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Yeah, that would be awesome. I loved my OP3 and enjoyed the OP5T, but I have to have VoLTE. That is a deal breaker, as I routinely have to tether my work laptop to the phone, so if I am on a conf call with the phone, I lose LTE and it drops down to H+ which is like 3G and slow. Also no HD calling, no WiFi calling.
My Essential doesn't have Wifi Calling either, but it does support VoLTE in AT&T, so I had to return the OP5T and go back to that.

lineage os

Guys, I will like to install lineage os on my pixel 2 xl. Anyone can share with me their experience with this rom. Thank you
LIneagOS is teh ROM I use on my devices that have bloatware(LG, Samsung, etc.)
Havent used it on my stock google devices, and I cant think of a reason why I would.
rectangularspace said:
Guys, I will like to install lineage os on my pixel 2 xl. Anyone can share with me their experience with this rom. Thank you
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I personally would not use it on a Google device that is currently receiving regular monthly updates, but LOS sure is great on older legacy devices that are no longer supported like my Nexus 7 and Nexus 9 tablets. I also note P2XL is not officially supported so you have to take that into consideration as well. On supported devices you usually get updates once a week and they include security updates.
v12xke said:
I personally would not use it on a Google device that is currently receiving regular monthly updates
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Google is no longer releasing monthly updates for Oreo. Since Pie is trash in my P2XL, I don't get any more monthly updates. I do hope lineage will support P2XL.

Pixel 4a 5G will be the 4a XL?

Who is buying the "4a XL" because of the bigger display?
I am.
Will be upgrading from a OnePlus 6t, CPU performance is similar between the SD845 and SD765G.
interfreak said:
I am. Will be upgrading from a OnePlus 6t
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Phone size comparison with the Pixel 4a: https://j.mp/2QFNDtU
The Pixel 4a looks really small compared to the OP 6T!
SGH-i200 said:
Phone size comparison with the Pixel 4a: https://j.mp/2QFNDtU
The Pixel 4a looks really small compared to the OP 6T!
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It does, but this is the forum for the 4a 5G which is similar in size to the OnePlus 5:
https://phonesized.com/compare/#1126,814
I'll be upgrading my PIxel 3a XL to this 4a 5G. I haven't had a daily driver phone for this long in forever so I'm ready for an upgrade.
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It does, but this is the forum for the 4a 5G which is similar in size to the OnePlus 5:
https://phonesized.com/compare/#1126,814
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Thanks for the link. I had to add the 4a, because the 4a 5G is not yet in their database.
I am returning the 4a and getting the 4a 5G
So, I've been holding off on getting a new phone for a long time. I said to myself that I wouldn't buy another phone until a decent sized 5G phone comes out that's not $1000 or more. I've been using the Nexus 6P since I bought it when it was released . The day It arrived in the mail I unlocked it, rooted it and started flashing all sorts of roms and mods until the last Resurrection Remix was released on Oreo and have hung with it since, going through 4 batteries, 3 displays, 2 charging ports and 1 fingerprint sensor. I picked up one inexpensive tablet in the meantime to entertain myself but have finally been able to order the new Google Pixel 4a 5G which should arrive around November 20th. It's going to be a huge difference in specs between the two devices and although from what I understand the software in the Pixel 4a 5G is really good, I'm definitely looking forward to getting the latest Resurrection Remix rom when it's available. I hear it's available for the Pixel 4a and it's excellent. Anyone else waiting to get their hands on this device to start running custom roms and modifying the crap out of it?
iwearthebelt said:
So, I've been holding off on getting a new phone for a long time. I said to myself that I wouldn't buy another phone until a decent sized 5G phone comes out that's not $1000 or more. I've been using the Nexus 6P since I bought it when it was released . The day It arrived in the mail I unlocked it, rooted it and started flashing all sorts of roms and mods until the last Resurrection Remix was released on Oreo and have hung with it since, going through 4 batteries, 3 displays, 2 charging ports and 1 fingerprint sensor. I picked up one inexpensive tablet in the meantime to entertain myself but have finally been able to order the new Google Pixel 4a 5G which should arrive around November 20th. It's going to be a huge difference in specs between the two devices and although from what I understand the software in the Pixel 4a 5G is really good, I'm definitely looking forward to getting the latest Resurrection Remix rom when it's available. I hear it's available for the Pixel 4a and it's excellent. Anyone else waiting to get their hands on this device to start running custom roms and modifying the crap out of it?
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Hilarious that I read this, the 6P is still my all time favorite phone, hands down. The size, thin-ness (is that a word) and just overall loved the 6P more than anything. I just got my 4a 5G this week and need to activate it. I did find out today it won't fully work in the VZM 5G UWB band.... which is a bummer, but oh well.
I need to dust off my 6P and update it, just for the memories.
CenFlo said:
Hilarious that I read this, the 6P is still my all time favorite phone, hands down. The size, thin-ness (is that a word) and just overall loved the 6P more than anything. I just got my 4a 5G this week and need to activate it. I did find out today it won't fully work in the VZM 5G UWB band.... which is a bummer, but oh well.
I need to dust off my 6P and update it, just for the memories.
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I really liked the 6P myself. Wish I didn't crack the digitizer on it or I'd still use it as a backup. I have my original galaxy nexus as well. That was a good phone back in the day but I didn't realize just how slow it is until I fired it up about 6 months ago. First phone I ever unlocked and rooted. What a great phone the 4a 5G has been so far, I don't have any complaints about it. As far as I know there's no custom recovery for it yet so I'm still holding off on rooting it. There's not a lot of mods and only one custom ROM but I'm sure there are people working on it. Get yours activated, you'll like it.
SGH-i200 said:
Who is buying the "4a XL" because of the bigger display?
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Bought 4a 5g for the price, and battery life, same camera as pixel apparently
MegaJuif said:
Bought 4a 5g for same camera as Pixel [5]
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I would prefere the compacter size of the Pixel 5, but the 'under-display' speaker is a no-go for me. I will wait for the 5a! ;-) My 4a5G is still in it's unopened box, since my Pixel 2 is running official LineageOS with current security updates and does all I want.

OnePlus, where to ?

6 devices in a year ?
Hope this starategy does not affect the speed of main OTA releases for all devices in the future. I cannot imagine myself tolerating an expensive stock android-like device getting late updates.
OnePlus wants to cover full spectrum of devices
I'm really disappointed on the lack of development for the n10 5g. Wish I'd checked it out before buying
One plus is only committing to one update on the Nord N10 5G. Android 12 beta is about be released and I'm still on Android 10. Not very impressed with my first One plus.
JonathanBates said:
One plus is only committing to one update on the Nord N10 5G. Android 12 beta is about be released and I'm still on Android 10. Not very impressed with my first One plus.
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This a cheap phone as one plus phones go. If we had purchased a one plus 8 or nine we would not be disappointed. I've previously had the flagship phones, but bought this on because of the price, so this is what we get.
For under $300.00 it's a outstanding piece of hardware. There may be more development when the updates stop. Keep in mind the nonnords don't take SD cards. Beyond that, finding something you can unlock this easily.
Finally got my Nord N10 5G updated to Android 11 last night.

General XDA Article: These are the Pixel 7 features coming to older Pixel phones

These are the Pixel 7 features coming to older Pixel phones
A new update, set to arrive sometime in December, will bring features found on the new Pixel 7 series to older Pixel handsets.
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October 10, 2022 3:29pm Timi Cantisano
These are the Pixel 7 features coming to older Pixel phones​Google recently announced its new Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro, along with new software features. While a majority of these typically stay exclusive to new devices, some eventually trickle down to older handsets. Thankfully, Google will be bringing some of the more interesting Pixel 7 series enhancements to older Pixel devices in the near future.
GOOGLE PIXEL 7​
The Pixel 7 packs the second-gen Tensor SoC, a brighter display, and improved cameras.Buy from Best Buy
According to Phone Arena, Google will be bringing several features from its latest Pixel handsets to older devices. Unfortunately, by older devices, it means handsets with its first-generation Tensor processor like the Pixel 6, Pixel 6 Pro, and Pixel 6a. As for the features that will be arriving, there is Clear Calling, Guided Frame, and Real Tone. Clear Calling should be extremely beneficial, improving the call quality by minimizing background noises, while Guided Frame will improve on the current accessibility options, allowing those with poor eyesight to shoot better selfies. There will be vocally guided instructions so users can position and pose in real-time, along with a countdown timer so that pictures can be taken at just the right time.
Furthermore, Real Tone will also be getting improved, offering more realistic skin tone colors in photos, and spatial audio will be introduced to the Pixel Buds Pro but will be exclusive to the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro. Coming to all older and supported models of Pixel devices will be the new “At a Glance” widget, giving users more important information than ever before. The Audio Message Transcription feature will also be available to all older and supported Pixel handsets, transcribing phone audio on the fly. Sadly, those that had hoped for Face Unlock on the Pixel 6 series will be disappointed, as it looks like it will not be in the cards for the upcoming feature update.
The new feature will arrive sometime in December, but if you want to gain early access, you can sign up for the Android 13 beta. But be warned, since it is beta software, there is always a chance that something could go wrong, and it is not recommended for people who are using their phones as daily devices. If interested, you can always find great deals on Pixel 6 devices, especially with the recent announcement of the Pixel 7 series.
GOOGLE PIXEL 7 PRO​
The Pixel 7 Pro is Google's top-of-the-line flagship of the year, featuring the second-gen Tensor SoC, a 120Hz LTPO display, a telephoto sensor, and a bigger battery.Buy from Best Buy
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No Face unlock! WTH!!!
jcp2 said:
No Face unlock! WTH!!!
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would face unlock be safe if ported to pixel 6/6 pro tho
I was using an exposed module with A12 that worked great. Not working on A13 tho.
w_tapper said:
would face unlock be safe if ported to pixel 6/6 pro tho
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Sure.
cool, but imma be sticking with fp sensor cause it works well enough for me
The only one of those features that is actually a feature may be the "clear calling" one, which would likely be implemented at a HAL level rather than gapps level, since real time audio processing is a job for hardware, not software.
The other two are pure gapps nonsense.

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