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[Q] Wireless charging vs protective case

It may be a race to nowhere but did anyone succeed with the wireless charging solution through any kind of protective case for Note 2?
I have a Palm reworked charger which does its job. When my Note 2 isn't covered with Otterbox Defender...
OK, the Defender is too tick and out of question. But do we have a choice of more or less suitable cases for wireless charging?

Well thr official flap cover should but it isn't a case.
Any type of case should make wireless charging difficult.
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I came across this the other day. Might help with some info for you.

2DemonLoader
No, the video and the whole article explain how to do the Wireless Charger mode yourself. I already have all the parts inside. The charging is OK with no protective case at all.
I thought Otter or others may create a special version of Defender with a steel disk of a kind to work as a high frequency magnetic coil iron.

sms2000 said:
2DemonLoader
No, the video and the whole article explain how to do the Wireless Charger mode yourself. I already have all the parts inside. The charging is OK with no protective case at all.
I thought Otter or others may create a special version of Defender with a steel disk of a kind to work as a high frequency magnetic coil iron.
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I know its a guide, but he had said that his method worked with different cases, so I figured that info would be useful in finding your solution.

DIY Qi/Wireless Car Dock idea

I've been thinking about creating my own wireless car dock. Basically I was thinking of using a case protector and trimming the edge off that locks the phone into the case to provide for easy insertion/removal from the "dock". On the back of the case I was going to cut an opening for the wireless charging transmitter...preferably one with magnets to assist with keeping the phone in place. Not sure if I'll just buy/use the Nexus 5 charger I currently have build my own. On the back of the charger I was going to attach one of the swiveling mounts which can then attach to one of the mounts similar to what the Pro.Fit mounting brackets and such use.
Any comments, concerns, better ideas?

sorry bro its been done.
The Air Dock
and the official website
http://www.theairdock.com/

undivide said:
sorry bro its been done.
The Air Dock
and the official website
http://www.theairdock.com/
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Not really the same thing at all. The OP is looking for a solution that uses magnets. You could get a random car dock, trim any plastics past the ball joint to fit, epoxy a nexus wireless charger to it, and be done. That would work nicely.

did you even read anything about the air dock ?
you probably skipped over this part...
"Inside the Air Dock are magnets that pull the phone tightly into the foam face"
the FAQ also covers the nexus 5 & 7 + magnets
only reason I bothered posting the product is because the price seems reasonable when you consider how much it would cost to "rig up" something hack style which, in the end, would probably not function as well nor look as nice as the air dock does.

I realize the air dock exists...and it's $69. I already have numerous cases and Qi chargers I can use to do this. The only thing I really need is the swivel adapter and the bracket to install in the car. I think the air dock is great but I feel like I can create something very similar that would work just as good if not better and for less money. The way I look at it, the air dock is missing one thing that I would like just for my own piece of mind, especially since I drive in Pennsylvania a lot (and if you ever have driven in PA, you know you can practically lose your car in the potholes there). I like the idea of a case/surround that doesn't require it to "snap in" to but provides just enough support for a solid hit so it doesn't pop out/off. Basically my idea is very similar to the air dock except it includes a case around the charger part. The way I look at it, even if I were to buy everything to make this, I can still make it cheaper than the air dock. The "case" I would hack apart I can get as cheap as $10 or less, and I already have 3 spares. The charger can be had for around $12 (even if I want to buy just the coil and PCB) unless I want to spend a lot and get another nexus charger which is $50. The only other thing I need is the adapter and mount which is about $9-15. So I can make the same thing for as little as $31-$37.

hey man thanks for writing back ! yes I used to live in PA near philly, now I live south of wilmington DE, this winter has been hell ! my rearview mirror fell off 2 weeks ago from hitting a pothole so I see your concern. one of the reasons why I stopped mounting my phone in my car (used to have an iphone 5) I bought a cheap mount from walmart as you can see here they say the stickiness lasts awhile as long as you wet it when it starts to dry out however mine will no longer get its stick back so its worthless to me.
are you going to fix mount this to your dash, or suction cup it to your window ? the latter I would not recommend
I'm sure you've seen the ram mounts x-grip, it looks top notch and I think if I ever upgrade from the cupholder recess in my scion my phone would be so lucky to find its place there.
sometimes I rest it in front of my stereo so I dont have to look at the word "aux" while the music's on!

Pandages said:
Not really the same thing at all. The OP is looking for a solution that uses magnets. You could get a random car dock, trim any plastics past the ball joint to fit, epoxy a nexus wireless charger to it, and be done. That would work nicely.
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That's exactly what I did just yesterday lol.. iMagnet dock with the Qi Nexus charger. The iMagnet dock has 4 strong mangets on the end, well I took those and put them on the plates that you're supposed to put in between a case and phone and glued them together to create a flat surface for the nexus charger.
It works perfect for me. Also had to order a charger to support the nexus charger.
iMagnet Dock
Car Charger
Truck is dirty, shhhh waiting for a nice day to clean it, damn you Michigan!

I know what I'm getting with my next paycheck
I just hope the magnet on that dock is strong enough to hold my phone through its fairly thick silicone case

ilikethepenkils said:
That's exactly what I did just yesterday lol.. iMagnet dock with the Qi Nexus charger. The iMagnet dock has 4 strong mangets on the end, well I took those and put them on the plates that you're supposed to put in between a case and phone and glued them together to create a flat surface for the nexus charger.
It works perfect for me. Also had to order a charger to support the nexus charger.
iMagnet Dock
Car Charger
Truck is dirty, shhhh waiting for a nice day to clean it, damn you Michigan!
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That's pretty similar to what I want to do, although I was thinking of taking a Nexus 5 case and cutting a hole in the back and epoxying it to the charger two allow 2 things. One is to provide a little extra support for severe potholes and also to allow the wireless charger to sit directly on the phone maximizing the charge rate. I was going to cut the lip off around the edge of the case so the phone can just be placed into the case instead of snapping it in since the magnets will take care of the bulk of keeping the phone in place while the sides of the case will just provide extra support. Just an idea. If anything I'll start off with the same/similar thing as what you have and possibly add the case idea if I notice issues of slipping or popping off with pot holes.
As for how/where I was going to mount it (2009 Scion XB), I was thinking of either mounting near the stick shift or possibly to the right of the stereo. Either way I'd rather have something relatively close to the top of the dash. The stick shift would be too low but at least it's accessible if I need to take a quick glance at it.
undivide said:
I know what I'm getting with my next paycheck
I just hope the magnet on that dock is strong enough to hold my phone through its fairly thick silicone case
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I have the Cruzerlite TPU cases. They've always served their purpose well for me at least. The magnets on the Nexus 5 Qi charger are pretty strong without a case. With the cruzerlite cases it's not quite as strong but it does hold a bit. Probably wouldn't hold well hitting a series of potholes though. I guess it also depends on how vertical it would be to. I would imagine it would have a better chance of breaking loose completely vertical as opposed to some angle to it.

ParadingLunatic said:
That's pretty similar to what I want to do, although I was thinking of taking a Nexus 5 case and cutting a hole in the back and epoxying it to the charger two allow 2 things. One is to provide a little extra support for severe potholes and also to allow the wireless charger to sit directly on the phone maximizing the charge rate. I was going to cut the lip off around the edge of the case so the phone can just be placed into the case instead of snapping it in since the magnets will take care of the bulk of keeping the phone in place while the sides of the case will just provide extra support. Just an idea. If anything I'll start off with the same/similar thing as what you have and possibly add the case idea if I notice issues of slipping or popping off with pot holes..
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I live in an apartment complex with speedbumps.. Made the truck go about 40-ish and the phone didn't even budge.. so you should be good. lol
I know what I'm getting with my next paycheck
I just hope the magnet on that dock is strong enough to hold my phone through its fairly thick silicone case
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My N5 is without case currently. Every case I have is too bulky and just eh, thinking about trying the poetic bumper one Ive seen on amazon..

I Made this
DIY wireless car charger: http://youtu.be/dDH2_auNWVs

It would actually be nice if there were a thread specifically for DIY Qi charger projects which included pics/plans etc. I guess creativity and the search feature will have to suffice for now.
I was also thinking of building my own Qi charger. I'd like my case to be much smaller though, similar to the Nexus 5 Qi charger. I was thinking of stacking the coil on top of the PCB but I'm not sure what shielding if any is required between the coil and the PCB.
If only that new NXP semiconductor solution were available right now. Check it out here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50hjojLLDww. Nothing much you can do about the size of the coil, but that tiny PCB is freaking sweet.

ilikethepenkils said:
That's exactly what I did just yesterday lol.. iMagnet dock with the Qi Nexus charger. The iMagnet dock has 4 strong mangets on the end, well I took those and put them on the plates that you're supposed to put in between a case and phone and glued them together to create a flat surface for the nexus charger.
It works perfect for me. Also had to order a charger to support the nexus charger.
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Bingo! This is exactly what I was suggesting. I think I'll wind up doing the same. I've got one of the CHOE Qi chargers at home, but it is magnet-less. I'm also picking up a PowerBot unit to throw on my desk at the office.

I think you'll find that using a case to hold the phone snugly is not only overkill but also a hassle. Magnets work great on their own, but having a rubbery surface makes it even better.
I have the Air Dock (see here) myself but am considering downsizing to an official Nexus 5 charger fixed to a ProClip (see here) This would not only be smaller but also sturdier. First I might affix the Air Dock itself to the ProClip and see if that satisfies me.
Definitely happy with the Air Dock, though. Great product. The guy making them is great as well.

active nfc, Qi & bluetooth car dock
Hi all, I''ve been messing about with different versions of this for months now, since i had my Nexus 4. When i changed my car last year, the new one came fitted with an active, adjustable Brodit/Proclip iPod dock and a Parrot bluetooth system
The first thing i did was removed the active ipod plug from the bottom of the mount and replaced it with a standard micro usb for the Nexus.
Then i added an nfc tag to trigger a LLama event to switch on bluetooth and start music playback when connected
I decided i didn't like the Parrot system so i removed it and went back to the Belkin Aircast Auto i had from my last car and routed all the cables behind the dash to the lighter socket
Then i thought i'd try a cheap "puck" Qi charger. The jaws on the old ipod mount are very deep and the puck fitted in behind the phone nicely, with the nfc tag on top (first pic). The phone charged well even while streaming bluetooth, but would only maintain charge while using bluetooth and Sat Nav. together, so i kept the option to unplug the Qi and use wired charging when i needed more juice. The charger was a little wider than the phone, hence the foam and slight "v" angle on the mount jaws to hold it firmly
So last week i ordered a new pull tab slip case for my phone and the one that arrived was too small, so i thought it was time to break the guts out of the Qi charger (unclip the 2 halves and remove 4 screws to release a one piece coil and circuit board) and tidy the mount up a bit.
I made a taller plastic backplate for the brodit mount, stuck the circuit board to it with mounting tape and stuck the nfc tag directly to the centre of the coil. Then i added packing to even out the thickness of the whole piece and altered the slip case so it would slide over everything while leaving an access flap so i can still use the wired charger cable when necessary (pics 2 & 3)
If this works well i'll rebuild the charging "sandwich" from better plastic to decrease the thickness a little, then i'll fit an extra lighter socket behind the stereo for the charger

Will wireless charging work with Otterbox Defender case?

Has anyone ever had experience with Samsung smartphones charging wirelessly through Defender's thicker casing?
I always had to find the sweet spot with my Note 7 and much thinner cases on last year's Samsung fast wireless charger in order for it to work.

Did you email and ask them?
NM, I wrote them and asked them.
When I get a response, I'll post it.
I'm not getting this case.

All Otterbox cases support everything on the phone

Patch7 said:
All Otterbox cases support everything on the phone
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I think hearing back from Otterbox would possibly be a more prudent answer.

Unless Otterbox has included some type of conductive feature in the layers between.........
I am trying to be optimistic.
Hopefully the $20 cost difference is indicative of more coils since charging speed is same between Samsung's 2016 vs 2017 models

I heard back from Otterbox:
Thank you for your e-mail. Good news, I do show that it does work with wireless charging. Let us know if there is anything else we can help you with. Have a great day!
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Thanks!
Fingers crossed. Bought Defender screenless edition along with two other accessories from Best Buy to get 25% discount.
Description of new convertible Samsung charger says multiple
coils for potrait or landscape charging. Not available for purchase yet through most retailers. Have two other accessories saved in cart waiting for it to become available

If worked with my S7 defender case as Well as my lifeproof case. I got my s8+ defender in last week, it feels thinner than my s7 defender. I'll have to test when it gets here, when it ships.
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I know it works with the strada case, not sure about the defender. Look up if the S7 defender case could wirelessly charge, that should give you a hint.

Zeal415 said:
I know it works with the strada case, not sure about the defender. Look up if the S7 defender case could wirelessly charge, that should give you a hint.
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Considering I asked Otterbox specifically about the Defender case AND posted their positive response that wireless charging WILL work with this case, not sure what the mystery or hoping is if the company themselves confirmed it will work.

sanjsrik said:
Considering I asked Otterbox specifically about the Defender case AND posted their positive response that wireless charging WILL work with this case, not sure what the mystery or hoping is if the company themselves confirmed it will work.
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Wireless charging works with ALL Otterbox cases.

Considering BIG companies like SAMSUNG never misconstrue the facts to sell more products............
Hint. Hint.
NOTE 7 battery fiasco.
Why would a smaller company like Otterbox?

bluetoothless said:
Considering BIG companies like SAMSUNG never misconstrue the facts to sell more products............
Hint. Hint.
NOTE 7 battery fiasco.
Why would a smaller company like Otterbox?
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big companies like samsung can ride out the fallout financially... smaller companies like otterbox probably don't want to have to pay for all the returns and the PR backlash.

sanjsrik said:
Considering I asked Otterbox specifically about the Defender case AND posted their positive response that wireless charging WILL work with this case, not sure what the mystery or hoping is if the company themselves confirmed it will work.
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there was 1 case that was rated to work with wireless charging (I Think it was otterbox) that i saw while looking at the youtube reviews, and yes it did work wih wireless charging, after picking it up and putting it down like 3-4x because it was such a weak connection that it was really hard to get it just right.
I didnt see your comment earlier, but I'd still beware of that, the defender case is thicker than usual.

FYI, S8+ Defender case WILL NOT work in upright position with the wireless charger. I've tried two of them and neither worked. Works fine laying flat, but once it it put in the upright position it will start charging for about 5 seconds and stop. Take off the rubber outer case and it works fine. Seems like there's too much padding at the bottom

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FYI, S8+ Defender case WILL NOT work in upright position with the wireless charger. I've tried two of them and neither worked. Works fine laying flat, but once it it put in the upright position it will start charging for about 5 seconds and stop. Take off the rubber outer case and it works fine. Seems like there's too much padding at the bottom
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If it were me, I'd ask for a refund. This is NOT what they told me in an email exchange I had with them. Seems like false advertising.

sanjsrik said:
If it were me, I'd ask for a refund. This is NOT what they told me in an email exchange I had with them. Seems like false advertising.
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Ya, I think I'm going to return them. I've gotten in contact with them on social media and they say all their cases have been tested and it DOES work wirelessly when laid flat. I think they just didn't test this particular scenario. Sad, because otherwise I really like this case.

I just tried my defender with the Samsung wireless charger stand and mine worked standing up.

I have defender on S8+ and charges fine on my spigen upright charger. Now when it comes to my iottie wireless car charger/mount it's hit or miss. The home charger has 3 coils and is stationary but the iottie has one and lots of vibration from car.
Anyone know of a good QI kit that would fit between the polycarbonate and TPU of the otterbox so my car charger would also work. Or would attaching a QI receiver to my s8+ damage the phone since it already has QI built in?

Here's my experience with it. I do have the 8+ and a defender case. Without the case I can just plop my phone anywhere in the upright (samsung dual coil) wireless pad and it will start charging. With the case on I have to search a little for the sweet spot. Hope that helps.

Can you wirelessly charge with a case on?

Is it possible to put a case on the Pixel 3 XL and still use wireless charging? Will only certain cases work? None?
Thanks.

Probably depends on the case. Even on the Google website it shows one charging on the stand with a case (fabric on). Looking at Spigen's site some of them say clearly they support wireless charging while it's omitted for others...

whoster69 said:
Is it possible to put a case on the Pixel 3 XL and still use wireless charging? Will only certain cases work? None?
Thanks.
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Depends on the case. The ones that can will say so. For example some of the Spigens can and it says so. Others say nothing about it and they can't.

Yes you definitely can as long as there isn't anything blocking the connection through the case like a magnet. Even externally using a pop sockets you can't wireless charger. So the answer is yes it'll work through mostly anything and any case unless there is an object in between

During the Google presentation they said you can charge even with a case

Good to know. Thanks for the replies.

I have never had an issue wirelessly charging with a case on. With any phone and even using an external wireless charger adapter

Charging and charging well are two different things. As an example my Note 8 took forever to charge with the leather case on and had to be set on the charger just exactly right to charge at all. Case off and you could just toss it on the pad and it worked. Thick leather has been the worst in my experience, TPU seems to have little effect if any over charging sans case. In the latter case those were all lightweight close fitting cases, might be different with the thicker full protection style cases like a defender. Haven't tried any other materials with wireless charging.

I went with the "all around" protection and go the Otterbox Defender case... it unfortunately doesn't work well with the Pixel Stand.. even with the rubber outter shell off it doesn't charge consistantly. It will charge, then stop... I'm getting a Spigen Neo Hybrid which..is supposed to work with Wireless charging.

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I went with the "all around" protection and go the Otterbox Defender case... it unfortunately doesn't work well with the Pixel Stand.. even with the rubber outter shell off it doesn't charge consistantly. It will charge, then stop... I'm getting a Spigen Neo Hybrid which..is supposed to work with Wireless charging.
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Most chargers require the case to be <=4mm to charge wirelessly.

I tried the Pixel Stand with my P3XL while the case was on (Otterbox Defender) and have not noticed any issues. Yet...
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works great with spigen rugged armor..

Question Wireless charging cases

Is there a comprehensive list of cases which actually support wireless charging?
I get similar issues with the Fold3. Most cases have that lip to help protect the camera, which just barely messes with the charging pad and causes no charging.
Any recommendations for a case for the fold4 that doesn't have a flip cover, which also fully supports the wireless charging?
Not a deal breaker, but I have previously invested in the OhSnap system (similar to magsafe) and works beautifully with my Note20) would love to continue using that.

I bought this case and while it does work great with wireless charging I'm very unhappy with it. Cost a lot of money and it doesn't seem very good at protecting the phone and has nothing over the hinge.
https://www.amazon.com/TORRAS-Shockproof-Military-Translucent-Protective/dp/B0B5CZYR4F/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1DRKVKSI0B81U&keywords=TORRAS+Shockproof+Galaxy+Z+Fold+4&qid=1674073023&sprefix=torras+shockproof+galaxy+z+fold+4%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc
..I just ordered this one (which is what I had for my Fold 3) that is even more expensive and it should arrive tomorrow evening. I had one for my fold 3 and it didn't really work well with the wireless charging, but I am willing to deal with that to protect the phone. Once I get it I will report back and let you know how well it works wireless charging.
https://www.amazon.com/SUPCASE-Unicorn-Full-Body-Protector-Kickstand/dp/B0B7MC26MS

Staying tuned!

Update!
Just put my fine new SUPCASE Unicorn Beetle Pro case on my Z Fold 4 and sat it on my wireless charger. Good news! Its currently charging at 10w wirelessly -- so it works! wooohoo!
This case:
https://www.amazon.com/SUPCASE-Unicorn-Full-Body-Protector-Kickstand/dp/B0B7MC26MS?tag=xdaforum01-20
I am using this wireless charger so I can verify it's doing it at 10watts
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B5L9NQWN?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details