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Will we get Nougat (7.0)? If so, when?

Just thought I'd throw this out there because the 1+3 is my first 1+. Can anyone with past 1+ experience give me an idea of first, whether we should expect to get Nougat, and second, if we can expect it, how long after the initial release will it be released for us?

Well, I meant to post this in Q&A, but I guess discussion works too.

Judging by the 1+2, yes, half a year after N goes official.
But who knows, maybe they improved, we got a quick RAM and display fix after all, so I'll say it'll land on january 17th 2017.

You are asking us to predict on something that doesn't yet exist.
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brickedvice said:
You are asking us to predict on something that doesn't yet exist.
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Pandemic187 said:
Can anyone with past 1+ experience
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It's not like my post was even lengthy...

Official update for sure takes months. But i hope CM and AOSP brings us a (more or less stable) N beta some weeks after the launch. So maybe for christmas this year.

Thanks Hatshipuh and Tiz92. That seems like a reasonable time frame.
Oh, and extra points to Hatshipuh for an exact date estimate! :laugh:

Prediction: OP3 will be the first Non-Nexus/HTC/Sony phone to get 7.0, officially or unofficially.
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t2jbird said:
Prediction: OP3 will be the first Non-Nexus/HTC/Sony phone to get 7.0, officially or unofficially.
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Well said. Wasn't there a pic floating around of the op3 running a preview N? I remember seeing it somewhere online bit I didn't care coz I never thought I would buy this phone at the time.

It was a fake. There were "0"s with different fonts.

History is a cyclic phenomenom.
At each new Android version the same threads, with the same answers: we don't know.
The correct answer is: When it's done. And sooner for custom roms.

What did you said?

matze19999 said:
What did you said?
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haha, I was about to say the same thing.

Pandemic187 said:
Just thought I'd throw this out there because the 1+3 is my first 1+. Can anyone with past 1+ experience give me an idea of first, whether we should expect to get Nougat, and second, if we can expect it, how long after the initial release will it be released for us?
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We won't get Android N
Enjoy!

matze19999 said:
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Come back to future bro, lol

It's better to not count on getting Android N.
And even if it comes, there is a probability that certain things in a N update will be annoying or worse than on Marshmallow so that many users will prefer to not update to N.
But that is OK - on my LG G2 which I used for 2.5 years I still have Android 4.4. And it works, so what?

I heard that Android Nougat will be "6.1". Is it true?

_MartyMan_ said:
I heard that Android Nougat will be "6.1". Is it true?
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No, it will be 7.0

I don't pin my hopes high of getting android N anytime sooner than 1 year. I will be relying on custom ROMs. The only thing i will be missing is camera quality. Photos on custom ROMs just don't match with what i can get with stock. Hopefully we get alternative.
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android n for one plus 3 ? in Feb-March 2017 , they have a history of slow updates. best to assume more time to avoid horrible disappointment lol . but who will stay on stock for so long ? i just hope the op3 gets a cam mod that makes us utilize the slow mo video recordings in aosp/cm roms.. then id go ahead.

Status for oreo rom for op3

Can any one have any news for oreo rom for op3 like linage 15 or RR rim or any other rom..... If any news plz plz give a comment

Waiting...........................

My bet is December like last year.

Still checking everyday on xda ???

Playa82 said:
My bet is December like last year.
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I'm pretty sure that he's talking about custom ROMs.

deepak3048 said:
Can any one have any news for oreo rom for op3 like linage 15 or RR rim or any other rom..... If any news plz plz give a comment
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Check this out..
https://plus.google.com/+varund7726/posts/BeSViUDtVpH
Summary for RR
Final N build will come out when sept security patches are out
No work has started by us for O yet
When we start the work on O , main branches will be kept private till we carry out our tests
O builds will not come out for a month or maybe more
Though it does not mean individual RR developers are not working because then you also have this
https://plus.google.com/+AkhilNarang/posts/Hup1zPxKNyW

Devs are working hard to bring up O for OP3 they are working in the background. Expect some alpha builds to drop next month for sure

Because of project treble being introduced into oreo, I'm not sure how it will effect custom roms. Pure nexus roms will be easy, Will insanely feature filled roms like rr could very well be alpha or beta till december or january.

Asking for ETA's on XDA... Someone has not read the rules...

Dlind said:
Because of project treble being introduced into oreo, I'm not sure how it will effect custom roms. Pure nexus roms will be easy, Will insanely feature filled roms like rr could very well be alpha or beta till december or january.
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It wont be that hard really as it will have to be removed and disabled. Just like the dual partition setup. Or any other system mechanic really.

All xiaomi phones get oreo custom roms.

Keyvannn said:
All xiaomi phones get oreo custom roms.
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I wouldnt be too worried about those. Almost nothing works. No dev with any self respect is gonna put out a rom that has the majority of things broken.

lineage 15 is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...evelopment/rom-kernel-lineageos-15-0-t3668952

Dupleshwar said:
lineage 15 is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...evelopment/rom-kernel-lineageos-15-0-t3668952
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That should have been expected with all the other ports around. Not surprised most things still don't work. But they got progress. I'll wait for an aosp rom before updating. To be honest the more I see the less I am thinking about updating.

zelendel said:
That should have been expected with all the other ports around. Not surprised most things still don't work. But they got progress. I'll wait for an aosp rom before updating. To be honest the more I see the less I am thinking about updating.
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After using Oreo on Pixel XL I went back to N so many issues

liam_davenport said:
After using Oreo on Pixel XL I went back to N so many issues
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Yeah many are reverting back to android N due to the typical Google update. Full of bugs and not tested. It is gonna take the rom devs months to fix everything google broke. But that is normal

zelendel said:
It wont be that hard really as it will have to be removed and disabled. Just like the dual partition setup. Or any other system mechanic really.
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I see. I didn't think treble could be removed. But now that that isn't a problem.

Dlind said:
I see. I didn't think treble could be removed. But now that that isn't a problem.
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Treble won't ever see this device and to be honest I'm betting the oem disable it in the majority of devices. Googles hope with treble is not something that will be useful for about 5 years or so.

zelendel said:
That should have been expected with all the other ports around. Not surprised most things still don't work. But they got progress. I'll wait for an aosp rom before updating. To be honest the more I see the less I am thinking about updating.
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Agreed

Closed beta 8.0 was just released. Public beta expect by the end of this month. http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...coming-soon-public-beta-slated-end-september/

Android 9 for Xperia Z5P?

Hello,
Can someone create a ROM with android 9 for The Sony Xperia Z5P (E6853)?

ker_99 said:
Hello,
Can someone create a ROM with android 9 for The Sony Xperia Z5P (E6853)?
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You can try. @Berni-0815 he works for z5 compact but he has a big problem. Maybe you can help him.

No way!

You could try to build AOSP 9

Android 9 is a no go for now. I plan to build LineageOS 15.1 for Z5 Premium. Expect to see more news in the few weeks/days. Don't expect it to be a full on stable release, that's probably going to take months. Sadly it seems no one cares enough these days so I won't be all that motivated.

Joel16 said:
Android 9 is a no go for now. I plan to build LineageOS 15.1 for Z5 Premium. Expect to see more news in the few weeks/days. Don't expect it to be a full on stable release, that's probably going to take months. Sadly it seems no one cares enough these days so I won't be all that motivated.
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Thank you so much in advance. I'm sure there's many of us who will appreciate this.

Mike3009 said:
Thank you so much in advance. I'm sure there's many of us who will appreciate this.
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I'm still learning my way around Android so as I said before don't expect it to be stable out the box. I can't guarantee anything for now, but I can promise that I'll get some sort of functional build of Oreo in the end. The only thing I'm worried about right now are the proprietary (closed source) drivers that may hinder certain functions from working.

Joel16 said:
I'm still learning my way around Android so as I said before don't expect it to be stable out the box. I can't guarantee anything for now, but I can promise that I'll get some sort of functional build of Oreo in the end. The only thing I'm worried about right now are the proprietary (closed source) drivers that may hinder certain functions from working.
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Sure man, really any effort you could offer would be greatly appreciated and not just by me, I'm sure there's others following as well. There was a developer on this forum who attempted to port oreo to the z5 premium but he ran into issues and gave up. One thing that I can remember without checking the thread was that the camera completely didn't work. Do you by any chance have access to a z5 premium to test it on?

Mike3009 said:
Sure man, really any effort you could offer would be greatly appreciated and not just by me, I'm sure there's others following as well. There was a developer on this forum who attempted to port oreo to the z5 premium but he ran into issues and gave up. One thing that I can remember without checking the thread was that the camera completely didn't work. Do you by any chance have access to a z5 premium to test it on?
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That is what I read as well, and yes I do own a Z5 Premium (single sim) which I will be doing my testing on. I haven't seen anything about Oreo for our device but I have seen attempts on other devices such as the Z5 and Z5C. They seem to have issues with certain functionalities like the camera as you mentioned. This is due to the proprietary blobs not being updated to support Oreo if I'm understanding this correctly, which is also my biggest worry. I'll be working on 7.1 for now just to make sure I'm going on the right path before shifting to Oreo. One of the things I want to bring to this device is Omnirom. I remember using it on an older device with kit kat years ago, and it was my go to back then.

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That is what I read as well, and yes I do own a Z5 Premium (single sim) which I will be doing my testing on. I haven't seen anything about Oreo for our device but I have seen attempts on other devices such as the Z5 and Z5C. They seem to have issues with certain functionalities like the camera as you mentioned. This is due to the proprietary blobs not being updated to support Oreo if I'm understanding this correctly, which is also my biggest worry. I'll be working on 7.1 for now just to make sure I'm going on the right path before shifting to Oreo. One of the things I want to bring to this device is Omnirom. I remember using it on an older device with kit kat years ago, and it was my go to back then.
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Awesome, I'm on a e6853. I'd be happy to help test anything.

I'm also happy to help you test.
Joel16 said:
That is what I read as well, and yes I do own a Z5 Premium (single sim) which I will be doing my testing on. I haven't seen anything about Oreo for our device but I have seen attempts on other devices such as the Z5 and Z5C. They seem to have issues with certain functionalities like the camera as you mentioned. This is due to the proprietary blobs not being updated to support Oreo if I'm understanding this correctly, which is also my biggest worry. I'll be working on 7.1 for now just to make sure I'm going on the right path before shifting to Oreo. One of the things I want to bring to this device is Omnirom. I remember using it on an older device with kit kat years ago, and it was my go to back then.
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Cool! My daily driver is my E6883 dual sim. I'm also happy to test, as I have several other Xperia models to fall back on.

Joel16 said:
I'm still learning my way around Android so as I said before don't expect it to be stable out the box. I can't guarantee anything for now, but I can promise that I'll get some sort of functional build of Oreo in the end. The only thing I'm worried about right now are the proprietary (closed source) drivers that may hinder certain functions from working.
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I'm also ready to test it with my E6853 (Z5P).
TWRP is installed

@ker_99 and @wicozani then please try this rom and provide logs, thank you.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81328929&postcount=10

Oxygen OS 11 Open Beta

Can anyone comment on the open beta for the 7t being available on 10/14, then same day as the 8t announcement?

What about it?

bluishdaven said:
What about it?
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Looking for confirmation that is when they are starting the next open beta group of phone to join in.

arbrouwer said:
Looking for confirmation that is when they are starting the next open beta group of phone to join in.
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They have advised in the past that official build will come to 7T on holidays... probably OB by the end of October

Wouldn't expect to much from OnePlus there support for the 7t is well a joke at best.

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Wouldn't expect to much from OnePlus there support for the 7t is well a joke at best.
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what makes you say that its just been updated to 10.0.13, a week ago

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what makes you say that its just been updated to 10.0.13, a week ago
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Decryption has been broken since release which is why we have no useable twrp. This is down to OnePlus it is fine on the Nord and 8 series. OnePlus have released countless updates and ignored this every time.

a g bell said:
Decryption has been broken since release which is why we have no useable twrp. This is down to OnePlus it is fine on the Nord and 8 series. OnePlus have released countless updates and ignored this every time.
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I didn't realise the twrp decryption thing was oneplus fault, i thought the partitions were a problem, the way you can't wipe system without bricking the phone.

Skinpipe said:
I didn't realise the twrp decryption thing was oneplus fault, i thought the partitions were a problem, the way you can't wipe system without bricking the phone.
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No it's not the partition issue of android 10 it's the fact oos doesn't decrypt properly on the 7t due to poor implementation of the keystore by OnePlus.

a g bell said:
No it's not the partition issue of android 10 it's the fact oos doesn't decrypt properly on the 7t due to poor implementation of the keystore by OnePlus.
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Ah OK cheers for info, I must admit this phone was an anticlimax compared to my opo, op3, and 5t i didn't know about the twrp situation if I had I wouldn't have bothered.

Skinpipe said:
Ah OK cheers for info, I must admit this phone was an anticlimax compared to my opo, op3, and 5t i didn't know about the twrp situation if I had I wouldn't have bothered.
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Yep l feel the same having owned op5 before the 7t is a bit of a let down

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Yep l feel the same having owned op5 before the 7t is a bit of a let down
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I've just refurbed my 5t for my daughter and I couldn't believe the amount of roms and all that good stuff, it's been ages since I visited the 5t forum, android 11 roms too, i had a poco f1 that is crazy well developed :highfive:

They had just barely announced what devices are getting the update. But as stated, we're likely to hear something regarding our device by end of October, mid-November, latest. Or at least, we hope.

Some new info here, makes sense a stable build will be Q1 '21:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-O...id-11-or-OxygenOS-11-until-2021.497770.0.html
Hoping that a new beta round starts yet in October or November. Anyone able to shed light on this?

arbrouwer said:
Can anyone comment on the open beta for the 7t being available on 10/14, then same day as the 8t announcement?
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idk , but sure , thats happening in the middle of the month , used to be
just saying , if we got for next Open Beta releasing new for A11 , how amazing creatures that our oneplus devs got .
good luck in hoping soon , that will be surprised us

A little more info on this topic:
https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-7-android-11-1168650/

No October security update, makes me think the next open beta is coming soon with OOS 11.

arbrouwer said:
No October security update, makes me think the next open beta is coming soon with OOS 11.
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??that's funny

arbrouwer said:
No October security update, makes me think the next open beta is coming soon with OOS 11.
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You do realize OP is like 3 months behind with those, right? Even the global ROM is lagging behind on security updates.

GuyInDogSuit said:
You do realize OP is like 3 months behind with those, right? Even the global ROM is lagging behind on security updates.
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The beta has been right up to date all along with the security update.

General Face unlock changes everything...

For those that are experiencing issues with Fingerprint sensor, there's an interesting project to add Face Unlock that is gaining traction. Here's the xda thread that explains how it works..
Also, a few custom ROMs have added Face Unlock, such as Derpfest Raviole (maintainer FullOfHell). It adds a bunch of other customization options and the latest version is stable with improved performance over stock.
Just wanted to add that face unlock is less secure than fingerprint unlock which is even less secure than a long PIN or Password. You should only be using face unlock if you know the risks (and of course it doesn't have to be used).

Still holding up hope that Google decides to add this to the P6. Even though it's doubtable after half a year of them not giving any indications.

I'm also still holding out hope google adds it

in Pixel 7 Pro only lol I bet

ОТAgree! I miss Pixel 4(((

Not much hope left it seems...
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502296391716122625

Lughnasadh said:
Not much hope left it seems...
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502296391716122625
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It is available on at least 2 custom roms.

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It is available on at least 2 custom roms.
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Which ones? That is really the only thing I am missing...

not sure why people want this as its not secure as Apple faceunlock as its simply a camera unlock.

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Which ones? That is really the only thing I am missing...
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Derpfest is one

teegraves58 said:
Which ones? That is really the only thing I am missing...
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been running Derpfest for the last 10 days. Really makes the Pixel 6 series so much more enjoyable to use. Stability is important (and rare these days). This ROM has that and more.

Nekromantik said:
not sure why people want this as its not secure as Apple faceunlock as its simply a camera unlock.
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People are willing to give up security for convenience?

jlokos said:
It is available on at least 2 custom roms.
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Yep. I was referring to those on stock.

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Which ones? That is really the only thing I am missing...
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Scorpion is another (aside from Derpfest).

Alekos said:
links are in the description ... I mean in the op...
I've been running Derpfest for the last 10 days. Really makes the Pixel 6 series so much more enjoyable to use. Stability is important (and rare these days). This ROM has that and more.
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Derpfest is great. I've run it since the first build.

jlokos said:
Derpfest is great. I've run it since the first build. What's so great about it? What does it give you and drawbacks?
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bobby janow​Derpfest Raviole maintainer (Fullofhell) has been working on it for a few months behind the scenes and just released it last week (3rd build now). It's very stable. I mean you really have to try it for yourself.

Just have no password, it's more secure and faster to unlock

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Derpfest is great. I've run it since the first build. What's so great about it? What does it give you and drawbacks
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bobby janow​The dev has been working on it for a few months behind the scenes and just released it last week (3rd build now). It's very stable. I mean you really have to try it for yourself.
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That really doesn't help much. Is there a feature list, what is included, what doesn't work? Just saying it's stable is very limited information. Is there a reason it's not on XDA?

Yeah if the Dev wanted it on here, wouldn't they make a post? This whole thread seems like an ad