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Let's discuss official Samsung updates for the Tab S4

France is getting a new update with May security patch and a higher changelist number (16124683)
Do you know what's new? Or is it just improvements and security update!
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-tab-s4/firmware/SM-T835/XEF/download/T835XXU3BSF4/276903/
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The latest update is T835UBS3BSG1 with July Security Patch Update

This is [email protected]
In Oz I have a generic Tab S4 and the last security update was December 2018... This is supposed to be updated by Samsung with NO carrier to delay the update...
Seriously, WTF!!! No Pie for me just an old Oreo...
I thought Treble was supposed to stop this stuff from happening...

Why not just flash a PIE Rom? I use all sorts of different Firmware versions to keep me updated xd

ultramag69 said:
This is [email protected]
In Oz I have a generic Tab S4 and the last security update was December 2018... This is supposed to be updated by Samsung with NO carrier to delay the update...
Seriously, WTF!!! No Pie for me just an old Oreo...
I thought Treble was supposed to stop this stuff from happening...
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Yeah, and yet the Telstra model was updated last month.

I contacted Samsung, same song and dance about "don't know when your device will be updated"...
I thought it was google policy that the current devices were to be updated with security updates ASAP. My security policy is dated December 2018.
Considering this device is out there as a business device this is a major lapse in security as the vulnerabilities haven't been patched on what could, essentially be, a business device. Even if it's not being used by a business, I tend to use this device as a laptop replacement... A lot of personal data can be stored on here and not as secure as my phone...
Considering Samsung is a major player in the smartphone industry, this lapse is unforgivable, my S8 has just been updated to June security update and I don't have half the sensitive stuff I store on my tablet...
Shame on Samsung....

ultramag69 said:
I contacted Samsung, same song and dance about "don't know when your device will be updated"...
I thought it was google policy that the current devices were to be updated with security updates ASAP. My security policy is dated December 2018.
Considering this device is out there as a business device this is a major lapse in security as the vulnerabilities haven't been patched on what could, essentially be, a business device. Even if it's not being used by a business, I tend to use this device as a laptop replacement... A lot of personal data can be stored on here and not as secure as my phone...
Considering Samsung is a major player in the smartphone industry, this lapse is unforgivable, my S8 has just been updated to June security update and I don't have half the sensitive stuff I store on my tablet...
Shame on Samsung....
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If you want to update your tablet, first of all backup all the data in your tablet and then follow this guide to update it with the most up-to-date firmware:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79317687&postcount=3

Samsung pushed a new update to many countries (T835UBS3BSG1) with July Security Patch Update
I am going to download it soon to see if they fixed the UI glitches in the previous update pushed to France XEF

You can check Samsung's official firmware update list, but they don't provide any new information. As you can see, Samsung only provide two types of updates - security and patch fixes and major UI changes. http://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-T835/XEF/doc.html

ilabstudios said:
You can check Samsung's official firmware update list, but they don't provide any new information. As you can see, Samsung only provide two types of updates - security and patch fixes and major UI changes. http://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-T835/XEF/doc.html
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The SF4 update have many UI scaling issues, especially in the quick settings toggles (missing first row, missing auto brightness slider in landscape mode), I am flashing the new update (SG1) now via Odin and report back

For example

Dirty flashed the update (using Home CSC) without wiping anything
After reboot I got Samsung Experience Services force stop, updated it from Google Play Store and it is working fine now
Auto brightness slider is now showing properly in landscape, no missing toggles, July Security Patch Update
This is what I found now

They just pushed the Australian update about a week ago, it's now on the May security patch...
At least that's better than the 6 month old security patch they gave before but for a premium flagship this is still unacceptable...
People here know how to use ODIN and flash firmware but for the everyday consumer this is something over their heads...
I know that people will argue that this is an easy fix by coming here or doing a google search but seriously, think back to the 1st time you flashed your device. It as a scary thing knowing (or being blissfully unaware) that you could destroy your shiny new toy. Not to mention the amount of people who know how to use their phone but have NO idea how to do anything on the PC other than browse facebook and send emails...
When we buy our devices we buy the security that the OEM will push out updates to protect our lovely devices and when I pay out a small fortune I sorta expect that this will be the case. Especially when it is retailed as a business device.
Security is all...
You buy a cheap $100 tablet from some Chinese company no-one has never heard of you don't expect much more than the device starts up and works...
You buy from a well established company that has a HUGE presence in the market you are buying the security of having the best and latest.
For some markets this is not happening and that is disgraceful...
Rant over....

ultramag69 said:
They just pushed the Australian update about a week ago, it's now on the May security patch...
At least that's better than the 6 month old security patch they gave before but for a premium flagship this is still unacceptable...
People here know how to use ODIN and flash firmware but for the everyday consumer this is something over their heads...
I know that people will argue that this is an easy fix by coming here or doing a google search but seriously, think back to the 1st time you flashed your device. It as a scary thing knowing (or being blissfully unaware) that you could destroy your shiny new toy. Not to mention the amount of people who know how to use their phone but have NO idea how to do anything on the PC other than browse facebook and send emails...
When we buy our devices we buy the security that the OEM will push out updates to protect our lovely devices and when I pay out a small fortune I sorta expect that this will be the case. Especially when it is retailed as a business device.
Security is all...
You buy a cheap $100 tablet from some Chinese company no-one has never heard of you don't expect much more than the device starts up and works...
You buy from a well established company that has a HUGE presence in the market you are buying the security of having the best and latest.
For some markets this is not happening and that is disgraceful...
Rant over....
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Totally agree, it is silly that Samsung pushing only quarterly security patch updates for their tablets

I have a question about these updates.
My last tablet was the Note 12.2. At that time it was awful if the tablet updated, it broke root and you couldn't get it back. So I'm paranoid about letting anything update. However I let that one sit since 2015 because it crashed I didn't have backup and wanted to someday recover newborn baby hospital pics and first Christmas pics. I've been without a tablet since.
I Get here to research the S4, the last with headphone jack tablet and it seems like you have to update to root. Is this right? I also swear I read that pie breaks a couple of programs on the s4, but I can't find the thread now.
Can someone clue me in since I appear to have fallen off the SOTA curve. Thank you for your help.

Hi all, today I got latest update with November security update. A nice feature has been added: smart view now allows resizing to destination screen ratio.
Did you find anything else?
Inviato dal mio SM-T830 utilizzando Tapatalk

What are the limitations of pie over Oreo? Is there a reason not to update?

Just recieved the Update in Germany. All data was deleted!
So Backup your data before installing.

I received the update a few days ago, and since then my tablet doesn't want to fast charge. Anybody has a similar problem?

Not here. I'm on Android 9 (pie) with Nov. 1 security update. I didn't notice any issues. First time I have ever seen Samsung get out a timely security update, it was only a couple of weeks after my Pixel (which is on Android 10).

what happened with OnePlus ?

I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
Previously I used OnePlus 6.in that time op6 gets every month security patches and updates without any delay..I'm so happy with OnePlus software updates and security patches.. that's why i upgrade my phone to 7t..now everything upside down no regular updates or security patches..(it's not a OnePlus issue but i have to say custom rom development's and community are not active for this device) I expected so much from OnePlus..when i upgraded.. sadly I'm disappointed
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
Sorry..if any grammar mistakes.. thank you

[email protected] said:
I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
Previously I used OnePlus 6 that device monthly security patches and updates..in that I'm so happy with OnePlus software updates and security patches.. that's why i upgrade my phone to 7t..now everything upside down no regular updates or security patches..(it's not a OnePlus issue but i have to say custom rom development's and community are not active for this device) I expected so much from OnePlus..when i upgraded.. sadly I'm disappointed
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
Sorry..if any grammar mistakes.. thank you
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You should understand that the Coronavirus incident affected all of the development, from any China company.

[email protected] said:
I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
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Yes, I'm super disappointed too.
Yet, oneplus is doing bimonthly updates, and they've been clear about this.
That means update every two months.
For some stupid reason they release one security update late. Last update was 13 December (with the Nov security patch). That means that in approx two days they will release an update if they are on schedule. (Except the Corona situation might delay things)
Now since they release last month's security updates with every update our phone will be brought up to January security update next time.
That's keeping with their promise and the two monthly release.
Considering even Samsung the notoriously bad update king manages to push out recent security updates every month there's understandable reason to be disappointed. Although we are the ones who made assumptions about updates, so I guess we can only blame ourselves ?

They're wary of the virus spread right now in China. So work and other stuff are either halted or limited.

A oneplus staff member stated on their own forum that because of the coronavirus the updates are delayed but op7t will get the january Security Update in the next 2 weeks

PsychOlli said:
A oneplus staff member stated on their own forum that because of the coronavirus the updates are delayed but op7t will get the january Security Update in the next 2 weeks
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"We encountered some delays due to the NCP outbreak. The January security update for 7T will be released in the following two weeks if all goes well."
Sent from my OnePlus7TPro using XDA Labs

I heard that their staff announced new updates will come on two month regular basis

[email protected] said:
I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
Previously I used OnePlus 6 that device monthly security patches and updates..in that I'm so happy with OnePlus software updates and security patches.. that's why i upgrade my phone to 7t..now everything upside down no regular updates or security patches..(it's not a OnePlus issue but i have to say custom rom development's and community are not active for this device) I expected so much from OnePlus..when i upgraded.. sadly I'm disappointed
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
Sorry..if any grammar mistakes.. thank you
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yea im pretty disappointed with the lack of development too. this device is pretty much dead

bynarie said:
yea im pretty disappointed with the lack of development too. this device is pretty much dead
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Twrp is the main problem as soon as that gets figured you it custom time should flood in

PsychOlli said:
A oneplus staff member stated on their own forum that because of the coronavirus the updates are delayed but op7t will get the january Security Update in the next 2 weeks
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Thanks for the information

rob420p said:
Twrp is the main problem as soon as that gets figured you it custom time should flood in
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Yeah..Right

Abaddon said:
They're wary of the virus spread right now in China. So work and other stuff are either halted or limited.
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Yes..i can understand..but yesterday my brother got jan patch on his realme device.. that's also a Chinese manufacturer right.. sorry just saying...wait and see
Thanks for the response you guys ?

Seriously people its just a mobile phone update. People are dying, entire cities are shut down. Have some respect please.

Why would you put your trust in any oem? OnePlus already has your money. Also you're on XDA asking this... a home of developers and other enthusiasts who create and contribute to custom updated roms. [emoji2361]

[email protected] said:
Yeah..Right
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U don't think so?

[email protected] said:
Yes..i can understand..but yesterday my brother got jan patch on his realme device.. that's also a Chinese manufacturer right.. sorry just saying...wait and see
Thanks for the response you guys ?
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They're all under BBK electronics yes. (Oppo, Vivo, Realme and Oneplus) but they're seperated into different teams/offices especially OnePlus with it's OxygenOS. So people from Realme can work I think but people from OnePlus can't. It depends on where they are and their worling environment. Just wait. It'll soon be there and development on custom scene shall be A-okay okce twrp gets sorted out.

skeamznz said:
Seriously people its just a mobile phone update. People are dying, entire cities are shut down. Have some respect please.
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Delaying this update for Corona virus is understandable, and first thing important is the employees health.
But let's not just pretend this is one time thing. OnePlus always does this, always releases an update at the end of the month with previous months patch set and never really stay on track.
In my opinion, this is where OnePlus has fallen behind, and I think it's because they release too many phones to keep track of.

Oh FFS........ China is under siege from a deadly virus and people are dying right now. Because of the virus large numbers of Chinese did not return to work after their New Year,
factories are shut or are shutting and this is already having an impact for the tech industries around the world and people here are moaning about updates as if their devices will explode if they don't get updated right now. GET REAL !!
Is this really what XDA is these days?

biohaz55 said:
Oh FFS........ China is under siege from a deadly virus and people are dying right now. Because of the virus large numbers of Chinese did not return to work after their New Year,
factories are shut or are shutting and this is already having an impact for the tech industries around the world and people here are moaning about updates as if their devices will explode if they don't get updated right now. GET REAL !!
Is this really what XDA is these days?
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You should try visiting the OnePlus forum. I think every second or third post is someone whining about the security update being late.
Aside from being disgusted by the colossal self-centeredness of so many people *****ing about a damned phone update while people in the phone's country of origin are literally dying, I can't help but wonder WTF these people are doing with their phones to make them that paranoid.

Eddiemc said:
Yes, I'm super disappointed too.
Yet, oneplus is doing bimonthly updates, and they've been clear about this.
That means update every two months.
For some stupid reason they release one security update late. Last update was 13 December (with the Nov security patch). That means that in approx two days they will release an update if they are on schedule. (Except the Corona situation might delay things)
Now since they release last month's security updates with every update our phone will be brought up to January security update next time.
That's keeping with their promise and the two monthly release.
Considering even Samsung the notoriously bad update king manages to push out recent security updates every month there's understandable reason to be disappointed. Although we are the ones who made assumptions about updates, so I guess we can only blame ourselves ?
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Corona has also affected miui but still they are on schedule so i dont get the point.. lets wait and watch.
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Eddiemc said:
Yes, I'm super disappointed too.
Yet, oneplus is doing bimonthly updates, and they've been clear about this.
That means update every two months.
For some stupid reason they release one security update late. Last update was 13 December (with the Nov security patch). That means that in approx two days they will release an update if they are on schedule. (Except the Corona situation might delay things)
Now since they release last month's security updates with every update our phone will be brought up to January security update next time.
That's keeping with their promise and the two monthly release.
Considering even Samsung the notoriously bad update king manages to push out recent security updates every month there's understandable reason to be disappointed. Although we are the ones who made assumptions about updates, so I guess we can only blame ourselves ?
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Corona has also affected miui but still they are on schedule so i dont get the point.. lets wait and watch.

Security updates?

Many of us have some personal and confidential info stored on our phones. Timely security updates are critical.
That said, has anyone gotten a security update for this phone? I haven't gotten one since I purchased it on the day it was released. I'm still on the August 1st 2020 security patch. I thought Motorola issue security patches every 2 months. I reached out to them on this but the person that I communicated with had no idea on when a security patch would be available for this phone.
I love the form factor of this phone but I think outdated security patches pose a huge risk.

I'm on se the September security update

Yoni160 said:
I'm on se the September security update
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Did you get a security update or did it come with the September security patch when you bought the phone?
Motorola also told me that the August security patch was the most up-to-date. Go figure.

To be honest, I'm not sure if there was an update when I started using the phone, or if it came that way. The phone is less than two weeks old.

No problem. Thanks for the update. I got my phone on October 2nd with the August security patch on it. No updates from Motorola since.

crawls69 said:
No problem. Thanks for the update. I got my phone on October 2nd with the August security patch on it. No updates from Motorola since.
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Did you receive any update, yet? Mine came with the August patch, and an update was available as soon as I got the basic settings dialed in. I'm on the September patch now, which is still pretty dated in comparison to my OP8Pro. No further updates, or news, as of now.

Nothing yet. Still waiting. I check almost daily.

you should have the october security update. The Retail US channel got that late in mid november (me on the 17th). I purchased directly from motorola and use t-mobile sim.
motorola does quarterly security updates it seems and when you get the update it'll be a month old.

Nothing yet. I wonder if T-Mobile is the holdup. I bought the phone from T-Mobile on release date. Perhaps Motorola released the update to T-Mobile but T-Mobile has not sent the update to my phone yet?
Motorola also said this phone will get the Android 11 update. If it's dependent upon T-mobile and if T-Mobile is the reason for the security patch delays, I'm not hopeful.

when you go to 'about phone' in settings, under 'software channel' does it say 'retail us' or something else?
If so, You could try this method:
turn the phone off, remove the sim. Connect to wifi and check for the update then.

In 'about phone' in settings, under 'software channel' it says "T-Mobile".

yea...you have to yell at t-mobile then. they're in control of your updates.
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you could try and use the motorola firmware flashing tool to flash https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/smith/official/TMO/
if yours is a lower version than that (you can verify in the about phone page under firmware version)
But firmware flashing that way vs ota usually means wiping the phone when it's being done.

Finally, I got an update today...

it looks like t-mobile just pushed that firmware out (if you go by the time stamp on the link i posted). So the phone is not delayed in seeing updates, t-mobile is just super slow at pushing them out.
though, they could have a different offset for their quarterly security updates than motorolla, as they're not much slower than motorolla (2 months vs 1.5 months). Considering you got November 1st's patch at the end of december and I got october 1st's patch in mid november.
I expect the next update we see for this device will be sometime in late february. Probably not going to see the OS update until mid next year.

Yep. I finally got it yesterday.

Wow. I went from zero updates in almost 3 months to two updates in just over 3 weeks. I was on the August security patch all the way until December 28th when I finally got the October security patch. Now, just a little over 3 weeks later, I got the December security patch today...
I feel a lot better about the phone now.

no April update...?

It's May 2nd here and I don't think I've seen a security patch for a couple of months now...?

No March update, no April update. So many bugs exist for months, nothing has been fixed. This device is dead! Do not cherish any hopes.

For sure i am not buying a xiaomi as next phone
It is always the same, if it is not famous or follows it products line is abandonated

Question Any word on the ETA for the March OTA update?

Hi gang, long time, no chat! Amazing what happens when Google finally gets their act together with the P6Ps, isn't it?
The last I heard @ 9to5google.com is that it was late. Nothing beyond that, though. Thank you!

Well, Pixel updates were always released on Mondays. So maybe next Monday? Or even a Monday after that.

March Update postponed indefinitely

Google are getting so slow for updates and they barely have any phones lol, whilst Samsung have pushed out 2 massive updates by the time Google has pushed out 1, I also find it strange that pixels software are the bare minimum and have worse battery life

I don't think anyone really knows when it will be released. Interestingly, the A14 DP2 build that was released yesterday had the March security update in it.

kevinireland11 said:
Google are getting so slow for updates and they barely have any phones lol, whilst Samsung have pushed out 2 massive updates by the time Google has pushed out 1, I also find it strange that pixels software are the bare minimum and have worse battery life
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HMMMM....
I count 15 updates and one major version upgrade since the initial release of the P6P since October 2021

I've found that Google's updates have drastically improved battery life for my P6P, but it still doesn't compare to the battery life I used to have with my LG several years ago. And I think we all can remember how bad LG was, with releasing updates. I just thought that perhaps I missed some insider news for the delay, and you are so wonderful with these phones.

biTToe said:
HMMMM....
I count 15 updates and one major version upgrade since the initial release of the P6P since October 2021
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You have completly missed out on what I've just mentioned on that last post lmao, it's great that you can count but unfortunately you can't read well, ("" by the time "")
EDIT - to dumb it for you, I'm speaking about this year only, if you need it dumbed down further then give me a shout, thanks.

kevinireland11 said:
You have completly missed out on what I've just mentioned on that last post lmao, it's great that you can count but unfortunately you can't read well, ("" by the time "")
EDIT - to dumb it for you, I'm speaking about this year only, if you need it dumbed down further then give me a shout, thanks.
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You remind me of my ex - she thought that I had a crystal ball and could read her mind. I can give you her coordinates - the two of you would get along just great

All pixel phones have march update ota by now, just not pixel 6
Google really starts to look like fools, when samsung starts to be faster with android updates than google, and delays

Would you rather a fast update or one riddled with phone killing bugs?it's not like they sat down one day and said "i know let's make users mad and not release an update".

Google are doing fine with slow updates with lots of bugs, just look at the pixel 6 and 7 update history, software/hardware bugs are all over the place.

7 Pro update went online today. I guess ours will come soon then.

its out for all but not for P6/P6P

sille said:
its out for all but not for P6/P6P
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Maybe that could be due to them refining the new Night Sight algorithm used in the smartphone

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Maybe that could be due to them refining the new Night Sight algorithm used in the smartphone
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Doesn't matter. The rest is removed as well

sille said:
Doesn't matter. The rest is removed as well
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What are you talking about?

My bad, if I switch the language of the webpage to German, the march updates are gone

Google said the March P6 fam update has been delayed til the 20th because they're adding 5G connectivity and having issues with India's configuration so to speak.

Zaxx32 said:
Google said the March P6 fam update has been delayed til the 20th because they're adding 5G connectivity and having issues with India's configuration so to speak.
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We need to wait till March 20 for Google adding a code line to allow an Indian Carrier support 5G?
Google being google...