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Why is this phone so slow to receive updates?

I recently got the a520f after a few years with the iPhone. I was happy enough but then released there is 2 roms, 1 in alpha and another which is abandoned then noticed the updates from Samsung are sparse at best.
I'm unlocked in UK and stuck on 6.0.1, they "used" to say unlocked got updates first, noticed the way I said "used to" because carriers seem to be releasing 7.0 before unlocked, and while on the point 7.0 at this stage when Oreo will soon be released, even bringing the phone out with 7.0 would have been slow when 7.1 was available.
I am thinking I have made the wrong decision with the a520, Samsung are slow with updates anyway yes but the a520 seems to be at the bottom of Samsungs list of priorities. Last years a510 even has 7 for a while now.

hi !
Yes ,all people here want updates with another android version but i think that the most important thing is to enjoy with this phone :
it's a device with MM6 have enought power for to play game , it have the best super amoled screen ,it have a fabulous battery life ! , a fingerprints and "near" 20 differents sensors ,he have a good modem and hardware for 4G , this MM + sansung adds have all useful functions and parameters ....and the middle economic mode is impressive for the battery life...

The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.

Nah, Samsung kinda sucks. I mean they couldnt make a proper working fingerprint sensor on stock MM, had to install nougat for the bloody thing to work.

aoyanagi said:
The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.
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How does Apple cope then?

That's Samsung decision to release update or not, as user we can wait for it or complaints to Samsung
Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk

It has nothing to do with "the server not able to cope" or anything. There are a few reasons building up to the devices being in literally the bottom of the pile as you put it:
1) Samsung has heavily skinned Android with a lot of added features, which all take a while to port to a new verison.
2) Costs of development, Q/A testing and everything else that needs to be done before the update gets released public (not doing the update obviously means a lot of saved money)
3) Most people don't care about updates or are even annoyed by them and think they are something evil. That's excluding heavy updates to a new version which slow down the phone by a large margin with features you could have lived without (Apple are doing this), those updates really are evil. Due to the lack of updates though, this rarely happens on Android in all fairness.
4) It's a mid range price device
5) Samsung's policy of not wanting to update the phones too much anyway so the user buys a new one
The phone is probably going to be updated to 7.0 within the next month or two. I doubt extremely it will get updated to 8.0.
This is unacceptable for a phone that has come out for 2017, to not got an update of an OS to a version that is released in 2017 just a little over an year later. We should definetly not put up with it and complain to Samsung however, not on XDA.
We should make sure OEM's take note that we want our phones updated to new Android versions fast for at least a few years, just like iOS devices. And on top of complaining, we should vote with our wallets also. That gets the chain moving.

aoyanagi said:
The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.
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That is tackled in another way. Your phone randomly receive updates in batch.
Yes you can get an update if you manually go into settings and download updates.
But again it is automatically provided in random batches.
Samsung is late at updates because they have a large number of models.
Not like Iphone that only support 3 models of past I think.
Samsung also needs to provide stable updates which take a lot of testing.
Again it depends on your country and provider when the start rolling updates.
By the way A5 got certified for oreo.
https://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-results?keywords=A520f

It has Oreo in Russia now
https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series-2017/how-to/sm-a520f-oreo-russia-t3779287

is samsung Note 2 protected from the wifi security krack?

Where can i check if i received this security update, is the krack wifi exploit hardware or software related
is it supposed to come from samsung(hardware) or google(software)
i think both of these companies ditched the note 2 years ago,
anywhere to check if i actually received the update? im only auto update, so i could've received it without my knowledge

mdude22 said:
Where can i check if i received this security update, is the krack wifi exploit hardware or software related
is it supposed to come from samsung(hardware) or google(software)
i think both of these companies ditched the note 2 years ago,
anywhere to check if i actually received the update? im only auto update, so i could've received it without my knowledge
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Official updates for the note 2 stopped a long time ago.. So the answer would be no, you did not receive any patch, you can try custom roms which are regularly updated by developers and most will be patched sooner or later, but the official android provided by samsung has almost no chance of getting any patch, in fact I am sure it won't get any patches from Samsung. And Google in no way will provide support for phones from other companies.

that's too bad, seems like a waste of a good phone to purchase a new one,
Im going to install LineageOS, from what i read online, that one supports my phone and it seems to have a good community

Software Update N910VVRU2CQL1; What does it fix?

Last night my stock Verizon Galaxy Note 4 received software update N910VVRU2CQL1. Does anyone know what this update fixes or changes? I cannot find a description of this software update anywhere.

I found the answer to my question:
Verizon just posted that
Software Version: MMB29M.N910VVRU2CQL1
Android® Security Patch Level: 2017-08-01, including Blueborne and Krack security patches
The current software update gives you the most up to date Android security patches on your device.
( See https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/samsung-galaxy-note-4-update/ )
Hopefully we will soon receive the Meltdown and Spectre security patches. It would be so nice if Verizon/Samsung would post an ETA for these kinds of critical security patches..

With the note 4 being as old as it is, I'd say we are pretty fortunate to even get the patches that just ota.

There should have been a little Link in the notice for the update and if you clicked on it you would have had a full report on your firmware update.
You should always look a little closer and get your information first. Before updating Anything if you choose to empower Control of your device!
I've had these note for since day one I still have two of them one new in the box..
Just Sayin....
Dwillian said:
Last night my stock Verizon Galaxy Note 4 received software update N910VVRU2CQL1. Does anyone know what this update fixes or changes? I cannot find a description of this software update anywhere.
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And, as I said at the time, there was no description of the software update provided anywhere. That's why I made the original post (should be obvious to anyone). Perhaps you should read posts a little closer before making snarky replies (nearly a year after the fact I might add).
seadoodude said:
There should have been a little Link in the notice for the update and if you clicked on it you would have had a full report on your firmware update.
You should always look a little closer and get your information first. Before updating Anything if you choose to empower Control of your device!
I've had these note for since day one I still have two of them one new in the box..
Just Sayin....
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what happened with OnePlus ?

I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
Previously I used OnePlus 6.in that time op6 gets every month security patches and updates without any delay..I'm so happy with OnePlus software updates and security patches.. that's why i upgrade my phone to 7t..now everything upside down no regular updates or security patches..(it's not a OnePlus issue but i have to say custom rom development's and community are not active for this device) I expected so much from OnePlus..when i upgraded.. sadly I'm disappointed
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
Sorry..if any grammar mistakes.. thank you

[email protected] said:
I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
Previously I used OnePlus 6 that device monthly security patches and updates..in that I'm so happy with OnePlus software updates and security patches.. that's why i upgrade my phone to 7t..now everything upside down no regular updates or security patches..(it's not a OnePlus issue but i have to say custom rom development's and community are not active for this device) I expected so much from OnePlus..when i upgraded.. sadly I'm disappointed
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
Sorry..if any grammar mistakes.. thank you
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You should understand that the Coronavirus incident affected all of the development, from any China company.

[email protected] said:
I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
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Yes, I'm super disappointed too.
Yet, oneplus is doing bimonthly updates, and they've been clear about this.
That means update every two months.
For some stupid reason they release one security update late. Last update was 13 December (with the Nov security patch). That means that in approx two days they will release an update if they are on schedule. (Except the Corona situation might delay things)
Now since they release last month's security updates with every update our phone will be brought up to January security update next time.
That's keeping with their promise and the two monthly release.
Considering even Samsung the notoriously bad update king manages to push out recent security updates every month there's understandable reason to be disappointed. Although we are the ones who made assumptions about updates, so I guess we can only blame ourselves ?

They're wary of the virus spread right now in China. So work and other stuff are either halted or limited.

A oneplus staff member stated on their own forum that because of the coronavirus the updates are delayed but op7t will get the january Security Update in the next 2 weeks

PsychOlli said:
A oneplus staff member stated on their own forum that because of the coronavirus the updates are delayed but op7t will get the january Security Update in the next 2 weeks
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"We encountered some delays due to the NCP outbreak. The January security update for 7T will be released in the following two weeks if all goes well."
Sent from my OnePlus7TPro using XDA Labs

I heard that their staff announced new updates will come on two month regular basis

[email protected] said:
I don't know what is OnePlus doing.. I'm using OnePlus 7t still running on November security patch
Previously I used OnePlus 6 that device monthly security patches and updates..in that I'm so happy with OnePlus software updates and security patches.. that's why i upgrade my phone to 7t..now everything upside down no regular updates or security patches..(it's not a OnePlus issue but i have to say custom rom development's and community are not active for this device) I expected so much from OnePlus..when i upgraded.. sadly I'm disappointed
If guy's know anything about this updates delays please comment..
Sorry..if any grammar mistakes.. thank you
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yea im pretty disappointed with the lack of development too. this device is pretty much dead

bynarie said:
yea im pretty disappointed with the lack of development too. this device is pretty much dead
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Twrp is the main problem as soon as that gets figured you it custom time should flood in

PsychOlli said:
A oneplus staff member stated on their own forum that because of the coronavirus the updates are delayed but op7t will get the january Security Update in the next 2 weeks
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Thanks for the information

rob420p said:
Twrp is the main problem as soon as that gets figured you it custom time should flood in
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Yeah..Right

Abaddon said:
They're wary of the virus spread right now in China. So work and other stuff are either halted or limited.
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Yes..i can understand..but yesterday my brother got jan patch on his realme device.. that's also a Chinese manufacturer right.. sorry just saying...wait and see
Thanks for the response you guys ?

Seriously people its just a mobile phone update. People are dying, entire cities are shut down. Have some respect please.

Why would you put your trust in any oem? OnePlus already has your money. Also you're on XDA asking this... a home of developers and other enthusiasts who create and contribute to custom updated roms. [emoji2361]

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Yeah..Right
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U don't think so?

[email protected] said:
Yes..i can understand..but yesterday my brother got jan patch on his realme device.. that's also a Chinese manufacturer right.. sorry just saying...wait and see
Thanks for the response you guys ?
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They're all under BBK electronics yes. (Oppo, Vivo, Realme and Oneplus) but they're seperated into different teams/offices especially OnePlus with it's OxygenOS. So people from Realme can work I think but people from OnePlus can't. It depends on where they are and their worling environment. Just wait. It'll soon be there and development on custom scene shall be A-okay okce twrp gets sorted out.

skeamznz said:
Seriously people its just a mobile phone update. People are dying, entire cities are shut down. Have some respect please.
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Delaying this update for Corona virus is understandable, and first thing important is the employees health.
But let's not just pretend this is one time thing. OnePlus always does this, always releases an update at the end of the month with previous months patch set and never really stay on track.
In my opinion, this is where OnePlus has fallen behind, and I think it's because they release too many phones to keep track of.

Oh FFS........ China is under siege from a deadly virus and people are dying right now. Because of the virus large numbers of Chinese did not return to work after their New Year,
factories are shut or are shutting and this is already having an impact for the tech industries around the world and people here are moaning about updates as if their devices will explode if they don't get updated right now. GET REAL !!
Is this really what XDA is these days?

biohaz55 said:
Oh FFS........ China is under siege from a deadly virus and people are dying right now. Because of the virus large numbers of Chinese did not return to work after their New Year,
factories are shut or are shutting and this is already having an impact for the tech industries around the world and people here are moaning about updates as if their devices will explode if they don't get updated right now. GET REAL !!
Is this really what XDA is these days?
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You should try visiting the OnePlus forum. I think every second or third post is someone whining about the security update being late.
Aside from being disgusted by the colossal self-centeredness of so many people *****ing about a damned phone update while people in the phone's country of origin are literally dying, I can't help but wonder WTF these people are doing with their phones to make them that paranoid.

Eddiemc said:
Yes, I'm super disappointed too.
Yet, oneplus is doing bimonthly updates, and they've been clear about this.
That means update every two months.
For some stupid reason they release one security update late. Last update was 13 December (with the Nov security patch). That means that in approx two days they will release an update if they are on schedule. (Except the Corona situation might delay things)
Now since they release last month's security updates with every update our phone will be brought up to January security update next time.
That's keeping with their promise and the two monthly release.
Considering even Samsung the notoriously bad update king manages to push out recent security updates every month there's understandable reason to be disappointed. Although we are the ones who made assumptions about updates, so I guess we can only blame ourselves ?
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Corona has also affected miui but still they are on schedule so i dont get the point.. lets wait and watch.
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Eddiemc said:
Yes, I'm super disappointed too.
Yet, oneplus is doing bimonthly updates, and they've been clear about this.
That means update every two months.
For some stupid reason they release one security update late. Last update was 13 December (with the Nov security patch). That means that in approx two days they will release an update if they are on schedule. (Except the Corona situation might delay things)
Now since they release last month's security updates with every update our phone will be brought up to January security update next time.
That's keeping with their promise and the two monthly release.
Considering even Samsung the notoriously bad update king manages to push out recent security updates every month there's understandable reason to be disappointed. Although we are the ones who made assumptions about updates, so I guess we can only blame ourselves ?
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Corona has also affected miui but still they are on schedule so i dont get the point.. lets wait and watch.

Android 10 will be supported anymore?

Hi all
I've last June patch on Android 10
It's still buggy I'm wondering if xiaomi will bring this device in to a stable version or not
Otherwise I'll downgrade to pie
Any rumors on further updates?
Thanks
Stefano

Yes, you'll get another year of Google Security updates as due to Google Policy. Didn't you read the little pamphlet that came with your phone? 2 year software updates aka. 2 major android versions and 3 years of security updates.
This months was an extremely slow month for almost everything, even Windows update was late (they also have monthly security updates). Mi A2 launched it's July update 1 day ago, so we're most likely going to get that next week, but don't worry, it's not going to be August Update, it's still going to be July update... and that's just a speculation based on what happened until now. Same thing happened in April, march passed with no security update and bugfixes, and the "fixed" (or should I call it at list not bricking phones) version launched in early April (3-4 if I'm not wrong).
So yeah, don't worry, you'll get updates until next summer, just remember, it took them a lot of months to make 9 stable too, and I'm not saying that as an excuse for their update delivery, I'm just saying that this happened (not as worse) back in A9 era too.

TeoXSD said:
Yes, you'll get another year of Google Security updates as due to Google Policy. Didn't you read the little pamphlet that came with your phone? 2 year software updates aka. 2 major android versions and 3 years of security updates.
This months was an extremely slow month for almost everything, even Windows update was late (they also have monthly security updates). Mi A2 launched it's July update 1 day ago, so we're most likely going to get that next week, but don't worry, it's not going to be August Update, it's still going to be July update... and that's just a speculation based on what happened until now. Same thing happened in April, march passed with no security update and bugfixes, and the "fixed" (or should I call it at list not bricking phones) version launched in early April (3-4 if I'm not wrong).
So yeah, don't worry, you'll get updates until next summer, just remember, it took them a lot of months to make 9 stable too, and I'm not saying that as an excuse for their update delivery, I'm just saying that this happened (not as worse) back in A9 era too.
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Thanks for a so detailed reply
Users panic was not so promising I can survive with on going issues if they will be fixed in coming months

joyride76 said:
Thanks for a so detailed reply
Users panic was not so promising I can survive with on going issues if they will be fixed in coming months
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Sorry to somewhat disappoint but I don't want to raise your hopes too much. There will be things that will be missing from this software like AptX, or like exFAT support and so on. Remember, the SD card issues that Pie had were only resolved when A10 came out... It won't be a perfect device at the end of it's life cycle but at least we can hope it'll work fine... They actually fixed some problems in the updates they gave us until now, but it's far from being a well polished system. All we can do is keep out hopes up, and hope that they took their time to actually fix the errors reported in the forums (xiaomi forum, where a mod says he reports user bugs himself).