S20+ 5G (sm-g9860) and esim - Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions &

Hi,
does my phone (from Hong Kong) support esim?
I cannot find "add mobile Plan" to activate esim.
Regards
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Yea it should. This is a CSC feature. Check and maybe change your CSC. It will wipe your phone.

insomniacandroid said:
Hi,
does my phone (from Hong Kong) support esim?
I cannot find "add mobile Plan" to activate esim.
Regards
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No. It does not support e-sim. None of the csc in relation to it support e-sim.

west2cool said:
No. It does not support e-sim. None of the csc in relation to it support e-sim.
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Why the HK version has this limitation? Can i change firmware in order to get It?
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insomniacandroid said:
Why the HK version has this limitation? Can i change firmware in order to get It?
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No you can not. Only Samsung knows the reasoning behind some of its decisions.

insomniacandroid said:
Why the HK version has this limitation? Can i change firmware in order to get It?
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No Snapdragon variants support eSim besides the Galaxy Fold. Changing the Firmware or CSC won't enable eSim. SM-G9860 is a Dual SIM Device, eSim shouldn't be an issue.

varcor said:
No Snapdragon variants support eSim besides the Galaxy Fold. Changing the CSC won't enable eSim.
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So, Is It an hardware issue and not a software one?
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I read here ppl said the Taiwan csc support esim but without 5G.
There is another post if u rooted ur phone u can use app to force enable Samsung feature that r available in other csc.

chongman said:
I read here ppl said the Taiwan csc support esim but without 5G.
There is another post if u rooted ur phone u can use app to force enable Samsung feature that r available in other csc.
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I have a BRI 9860 with 2020 July update and NO esim support, with or without 5G

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insomniacandroid said:
So, Is It an hardware issue and not a software one?
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It's a few issues, an e-Sim is soldered to the motherboard, that's hardware related. The only thing which makes sense in adding an e-Sim on a Dual Sim device such as yours is you could use a MicroSD in combination with both Sim's. e-Sim can accommodate up to 5 virtual numbers. I suppose some businessmen would find that useful but in general 2 Sim's are more than enough for most users. On the Galaxy S8 you could shave a Sim and attach it to the top of a MicroSD, allowing Dual Sim's and external memory however Samsung eliminated that option on the S9. I doubt the S20 can be customized in that manner.
https://youtu.be/YmJI3BQUHF4

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It's a few issues, an e-Sim is soldered to the motherboard, that's hardware related. The only thing which makes sense in adding an e-Sim on a Dual Sim device such as yours is you could use a MicroSD in combination with both Sim's. e-Sim can accommodate up to 5 virtual numbers. I suppose some businessmen would find that useful but in general 2 Sim's are more than enough for most users. On the Galaxy S8 you could shave a Sim and attach it to the top of a MicroSD, allowing Dual Sim's and external memory however Samsung eliminated that option on the S9. I doubt the S20 can be customized in that manner.
https://youtu.be/YmJI3BQUHF4
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Therefore, do you think it's impossibile having esim service on my s20 with snapdragon?
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insomniacandroid said:
Therefore, do you think it's impossibile having esim service on my s20 with snapdragon?
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In theory all S20 models have eSim capability. I don't know if all S20 models have eSim hardware. I think that's the case however eSim functionality also requires the Carrier's wireless service provide each customer an eSim Profile. Why they haven't or won't offer that feature for Snapdragon variants of the S20 is a good question but I doubt any CSR can answer that. I and others believe US Carriers don't want to enhance their customers ability to switch service provider's at their discretion. Customer Retention surely is part of the reason.

Explains why Samsung updates are slow; They are busy making 100 different variants of the same model, removing that resister and that transistor etc etc country to country.

Nowa Concordia said:
Explains why Samsung updates are slow; They are busy making 100 different variants of the same model, removing that resister and that transistor etc etc country to country.
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Totally agree, way too many variants has led to a lot of frustration. Samsung should equip all models with a single, efficient SoC. This would be a great first step for rectifying compatibility issues

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Changing region

Is there any disadvantage of the region changing? I mean I live in Europe, what happened if i change to India?
Sigray said:
Is there any disadvantage of the region changing? I mean I live in Europe, what happened if i change to India?
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I think no disadvantage. I was used Bangladesh region here in India and no disadvantage. Sorry for my english.
[email protected] said:
I think no disadvantage. I was used Bangladesh region here in India and no disadvantage. Sorry for my english.
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Sigray said:
Is there any disadvantage of the region changing? I mean I live in Europe, what happened if i change to India?
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only good thing will happen :
face unlock
ota 9.5.13.0
volte
im in France, went to india for face unlock, then indonesia for ota and last hong kong for volte, but i guess indonesia is enough for all
Isn't the region tied, for instance, with the gps, ntp or similar?
For instance i'm in Italy and region is Italy. I have a fantastic gps fix within very few seconds... If i changed region to Hong Kong to get the Face unlock, my GPS would bè broken?
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vac72cov said:
Isn't the region tied, for instance, with the gps, ntp or similar?
For instance i'm in Italy and region is Italy. I have a fantastic gps fix within very few seconds... If i changed region to Hong Kong to get the Face unlock, my GPS would bè broken?
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just try, its quick to test. But gps fix will be as good as before.
Dont know why xi has made such restriction/features based on region.
Im on miui10 china beta with no region choice and gps works just fine.
Ok, so if i changed from region Italy to Hong Kong does the ota still work and the updates are still for the global version ?
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I think.. no matter where you live.. but you have to select region india only...

Need Clarifications on this mess of Model Numbers & eSIM

So,
Apparently Samsung implamented the eSIM tech within the S20 family...does anyone have a CLEAR understand of which model has what? Normally techwall has a great description of the different models. But there, not once does it mention eSIM, and only ONCE does it mention Dual Sim (988B/FD).
So (2),
988N -> Korean Exynos SingleSim(?) eSIM(?) Snapdragon confirmedOnly one IMEI
9880 -> normally the HK version with dual sim (the note10+ 9750 is dual sim), but is it? or does it have the eSIM enabled
988U - > US unlocked version normally dual SIM
988B/FD - > Dual SIM Exynos (with eSIM also, so you have the choice to use the 2 physical SIMs or 1 physical & eSIM & sd card)
So my questions is summerized by this :
Which Snapdragon has dual "physical" SIMs and which ones have 1 SIM and 1 eSIM... this is so confusing to me
SAO said:
So,
Apparently Samsung implamented the eSIM tech within the S20 family...does anyone have a CLEAR understand of which model has what? Normally techwall has a great description of the different models. But there, not once does it mention eSIM, and only ONCE does it mention Dual Sim (988B/FD).
So (2),
988N -> Korean Exynos SingleSim(?) eSIM(?)
9880 -> normally the HK version with dual sim (the note10+ 9750 is dual sim), but is it? or does it have the eSIM enabled
988U - > US unlocked version normally dual SIM
988B/FD - > Dual SIM Exynos (with eSIM also, so you have the choice to use the 2 physical SIMs or 1 physical & eSIM & sd card)
So my questions is summerized by this :
Which Snapdragon has dual "physical" SIMs and which ones have 1 SIM and 1 eSIM... this is so confusing to me
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They all have an esim, its up to samsung, and carrier to enable it though.
VZTech said:
They all have an esim, its up to samsung, and carrier to enable it though.
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Thanks for your reply.
as they "all have eSIM"... does that mean they also ALL have two IMEIs? as that is hardware based also i think. As you can see on this video : Sakitech on s20U at 0:27 there is onyl 1 IMEI. Maybe because it's a dummy version?
SAO said:
Thanks for your reply.
as they "all have eSIM"... does that mean they also ALL have two IMEIs? as that is hardware based also i think. As you can see on this video : Sakitech on s20U at 0:27 there is onyl 1 IMEI. Maybe because it's a dummy version?
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It wont have 2 imei's until the esim is activated.
VZTech said:
It wont have 2 imei's until the esim is activated.
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Gotcha, as i'm getting the 9880 next week, i hope it works with dual ... numbers.
SAO said:
Gotcha, as i'm getting the 9880 next week, i hope it works with dual ... numbers.
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That one is dual sim, so it will work out of the box
No eSIM
according to the global site, in the specs there is NO eSIM on the s20s. But there IS on the zflip.
Portair75 said:
according to the global site, in the specs there is NO eSIM on the s20s. But there IS on the zflip.
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wrong
Search for eSIM... but it says "Global Variant"... so i guess the US models won't have them.
This is all very confusing.
I can't post the links cause I'm a new user. But Google for Galaxy s20 specs will get you to the global site. Compare those with the z flip on same site. S20s don't say eSIM. Z flip does.
Portair75 said:
I can't post the links cause I'm a new user. But Google for Galaxy s20 specs will get you to the global site. Compare those with the z flip on same site. S20s don't say eSIM. Z flip does.
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Well it's written on their global site :
View attachment 4960021
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Well it's written on their global site :
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Ok strange it is not on the first 2 lines as it is on the z flip.
Portair75 said:
Ok strange it is not on the first 2 lines as it is on the z flip.
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Thus my thread... things are not clear.
So which ones have physical dual-sim? Does US model supports 2 nano-sim?
Us unlocked version never has dual sim. You are thinking internation version
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johnwayne27 said:
Us unlocked version never has dual sim. You are thinking internation version
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Thanks.
Sad to be stuck on exynos to get dual-sim
hoppy_barzed said:
Thanks.
Sad to be stuck on exynos to get dual-sim
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There are Snapdragon versions with dual SIM.
Usually it's the Hong Kong version.
Here's a question. Can people who have the same model number but don't have 5G enabled (Indonesia), etc be able to activate it via a firmware upgrade, or through XDA magic? Max Weinbach mentioned that the 5G and non 5G phones are exactly the same.
eyeatoma said:
Here's a question. Can people who have the same model number but don't have 5G enabled (Indonesia), etc be able to activate it via a firmware upgrade, or through XDA magic? Max Weinbach mentioned that the 5G and non 5G phones are exactly the same.
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Possibly, though Samsung may have put some kind of efuse in place and blown them on the non 5G models
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Possibly, though Samsung may have put some kind of efuse in place and blown them on the non 5G models
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Sorry can you explain what you mean by efuse?
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Apple has had dual radio capability since the XS. (2018)
Kind of ridiculous we don't have it in USA with Samsung. Dual SIM is great, no more toting around two (or more) phones. In the past when they were SMALL it wasn't a problem but pushing 7" screen size, it's an issue. Fortunately my Grip6 belt can handle it!

What model # buy for unlocked bootloader

I have been doing some research , was looking to get into the unlocked bootloader snapdragon models for obvious reasons..
Here are the following:
S20 Ultra - SA-G988BD Latin American Snapdragon model (should have unlocked bootloader)
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1549755-REG/samsung_sa_g988bdgr_galaxy_s20_ultra_g988b.html
Same thing for S20+ it's a model # beginning with SA.
Are these models truly bootloader unlockable, and how is development for unlockable snapdragon samsung devices?
Where should I be sourcing the purchase from?
known sellers of F\DS versions (exynos) (of all variants)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item1f0b2b1cc8:m:mSdP4qhLx0dRJgKOI8ClGMw
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...92:m:mo1w8WlyKXHUa-jnEGtmWjg&var=503079501845
If you know of other sellers , sources, please post em up and i'll update OP
I'd prefer to buy the snapdragon model, if i could unlock bootloader and root...
Bump
Any advice? would like to pull the trigger soon
anyone?
Ok so from what I've read and it's everywhere btw..
The Snapdragon variant does not allow bootloader unlocking. However it's probably going to be substantially faster both CPU and GPU, plus more efficient.
The exynos is going to be unlockable.
But the downside is that it's going to be slower, less efficient and if memory serves; developers hate the exynos chipset and the madness that comes with it.
Not very well optimized, but hey it's the price you pay.
If you're not in the EU then the SD is the preferred choice. As the 5G bands appear to be regionally specific, not sure if this will change in the future but from past experiences, if it doesn't exist on launch then don't assume it'll be added later..
I'm losing heart in this device and it's stupid chipset conundrum, plus the price is stratospheric, there shouldn't be a compromise, but obviously there is.
My advice if you haven't commited yet, wait for the OnePlus 8 pro, it'll have the 865, will have 120hz, wireless charging, ip68 and will be unlockable..
Unless you're in the states and your provider locks it down. In which case, get it direct. Pay it off with PayPal finance.
dladz said:
Ok so from what I've read and it's everywhere btw..
The Snapdragon variant does not allow bootloader unlocking. However it's probably going to be substantially faster both CPU and GPU, plus more efficient.
The exynos is going to be unlockable.
But the downside is that it's going to be slower, less efficient and if memory serves; developers hate the exynos chipset and the madness that comes with it.
Not very well optimized, but hey it's the price you pay.
If you're not in the EU then the SD is the preferred choice. As the 5G bands appear to be regionally specific, not sure if this will change in the future but from past experiences, if it doesn't exist on launch then don't assume it'll be added later..
I'm losing heart in this device and it's stupid chipset conundrum, plus the price is stratospheric, there shouldn't be a compromise, but obviously there is.
My advice if you haven't commited yet, wait for the OnePlus 8 pro, it'll have the 865, will have 120hz, wireless charging, ip68 and will be unlockable..
Unless you're in the states and your provider locks it down. In which case, get it direct. Pay it off with PayPal finance.
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ya i'm in the states and yes you are right it seems everywhere,
I really don't want to deal with exynos madness again, i dealt with that on my note 8 korean version and even signal suffered horribly.
I heart the "N" models (the korean variant) is also SD? and locked? is this really true?
I remember back in the day snapdragon Latin american and HK variants were unlockable...
masri1987 said:
ya i'm in the states and yes you are right it seems everywhere,
I really don't want to deal with exynos madness again, i dealt with that on my note 8 korean version and even signal suffered horribly.
I heart the "N" models (the korean variant) is also SD? and locked? is this really true?
I remember back in the day snapdragon Latin american and HK variants were unlockable...
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N version unlock. I use it now
Barcovn said:
N version unlock. I use it now
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bootloader unlocked?
can u show proof?
any update from you guys ? which versions have you purchased?
So i actually can't seem to find the unlockable bootloader snapdragon model anywhere, which one is it?
Any news?
Are the version SM-G9880 and SM-G988N unlockable? Or are every SD versions locked? Does someone have any information about this? I'm considering returning my Exynos version and import the SD one from WondaMobile. Either the G9880 or the G988N depending on whether they're unlockable or not.
N version, oem unlock work. However i can't find any twrp or guide regarding root for snap 865
Yeah, i ordered also a 988N. That's great!
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Yeah, i ordered also a 988N. That's great!
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Lot of Korean Bloatwares. Hope can root and debloat them soon
Aezhyr said:
Any news?
Are the version SM-G9880 and SM-G988N unlockable? Or are every SD versions locked? Does someone have any information about this? I'm considering returning my Exynos version and import the SD one from WondaMobile. Either the G9880 or the G988N depending on whether they're unlockable or not.
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N version, oem unlock work. However i can't find any twrp or guide regarding root for snap 865
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Yeah, i ordered also a 988N. That's great!
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Barcovn said:
Lot of Korean Bloatwares. Hope can root and debloat them soon
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I ordered the g9880HK snapdragon version from eBay store never msrp. I get it on Tuesday
Barcovn said:
Lot of Korean Bloatwares. Hope can root and debloat them soon
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Can't you remove the bloatware with adb commands?
Just a note to anyone considering the exynos chipset. They Run Hot and Battery life is Terrible! The Snapdragon is also far superior!
Aezhyr said:
Can't you remove the bloatware with adb commands?
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Yess and package disabler works too.
nobrain3000 said:
Yess and package disabler works too.
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What's safe to disable?

Canadian S20 5G with disabled e-sim

Hi guys
I would like to know. If I buy a Canadian S20 without e-sim, is there a way to enable this? Its hopeless for me without the e-sim as I need to use it for business like my IPhone which has an e-sim.
Thanks if you could help
Michél
lupinaro said:
Hi guys
I would like to know. If I buy a Canadian S20 without e-sim, is there a way to enable this? Its hopeless for me without the e-sim as I need to use it for business like my IPhone which has an e-sim.
Thanks if you could help
Michél
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No, however rumor has it a future update may facilitate this function but don't hold your breath! There are International variants which offer Dual SIM's. Samsung should make this option more widely available.
varcor said:
No, however rumor has it a future update may facilitate this function but don't hold your breath! There are International variants which offer Dual SIM's. Samsung should make this option more widely available.
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Pity, cause the UK version with the e-sim sells at Walmart but its $1900!!! Ridiculous!!!
US version also disabled.
lupinaro said:
Pity, cause the UK version with the e-sim sells at Walmart but its $1900!!! Ridiculous!!!
US version also disabled.
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I'd pass on the Exynos SOC. The Dual SIM Snapdragon S20 Plus is available on eBay for $882.00.
Awesome yes but will Samsung pay etc work here in Canada?
lupinaro said:
Awesome yes but will Samsung pay etc work here in Canada?
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Yes
https://www.samsung.com/ca/apps/samsung-pay/
I have the Hong Kong variant, it works in the US. There's a number of NFC Payment platforms, the main thing is your bank needs to be aligned with whatever platform you chose. Almost all banks facilitate Samsung MTS.
lupinaro said:
Awesome yes but will Samsung pay etc work here in Canada?
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My experience with Samsung Pay and the HK variant is based on the Note 10 - out of the box, Samsung Pay will only work with AmEx in Canada with a dual SIM Snapdragon variant. Google Pay does work without any issues.
One other thing to consider - the HK/China/Taiwan Snapdragon variant does not have the same 5G bands as the Canadian one.
Quick Question. If you change the CSC to enable the e-sim in Canada. Which one do I use to still retain the Samsung pay and VOLTE?
thanks
Michél
lupinaro said:
Quick Question. If you change the CSC to enable the e-sim in Canada. Which one do I use to still retain the Samsung pay and VOLTE?
thanks
Michél
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I'm not aware of any Snapdragon Variants which offer eSim with one exception, the Galaxy Fold but I haven't heard feedback from Snapdragon users with Canadian Branded Devices.
lupinaro said:
Quick Question. If you change the CSC to enable the e-sim in Canada. Which one do I use to still retain the Samsung pay and VOLTE?
thanks
Michél
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At this time, there is no way to enable the eSIM on the Canadian model S20 series.
Hey thanx. Pity. Mabe OnePlus is the answer then.
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Hey thanx. Pity. Mabe OnePlus is the answer then.
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Be aware that the OnePlus 8 Pro has dual-SIM functionality disabled right now. I have the OP 8 Pro and dual SIM is supposed to be enabled at a later date,
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Be aware that the OnePlus 8 Pro has dual-SIM functionality disabled right now. I have the OP 8 Pro and dual SIM is supposed to be enabled at a later date,
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Yes, just saw that... so I am sort of screwed right now with no options but to buy grey. No go as not even VOLTe will work.../samsung pay
Telus might be allowing VoLTE and VoWiFi on unlocked phones... I am so disappointed with VoLTE / WiFi needing to be baked into firmware on Android, what's going to happen when HSPA is retired? Also why was it so hard to begin with, the tower should be the keeper / sender of the related settings.
To enable esim, you must find the firmware from the region & telco that support esim , and you must change the firmware *and* the csc too. changing only one of them will not do.

Importing Snapdragon s20 to UK.

Hi all, new to this, needed some help from you guys to clarify something for me. I want to import the Snapdragon variant of s20 from Korea to UK. Is it possible to flash UK firmware on this and get updates as normal for my region? Not sure if region specific firmware is tailored for Snapdragon or exynos. Any help at all would be highly appreciated.
S20 snapdragon has a different model number and you will not be able to flash any EU firmwares on it.
No, you'd need the Exynos International model to use UK firmware, if you want Snapdragon running English firmware import it from the US
Why do you need English firmware?
I am using an HK One and its good for everything including Samsung Pay.
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insomniacandroid said:
Why do you need English firmware?
I am using an HK One and its good for everything including Samsung Pay.
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Thanks for replying guys. So I don't really need to do anything other than change language during set up? Im with Vodafone UK. I read volte doesn't work but also read that it does work too lol. I'm guessing I can log into Samsung account as normal for themes and wallpapers, and use play store as normal for banking apps etc? Not fussed about Samsung pay really.
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Thanks for replying guys. So I don't really need to do anything other than change language during set up? Im with Vodafone UK. I read volte doesn't work but also read that it does work too lol. I'm guessing I can log into Samsung account as normal for themes and wallpapers, and use play store as normal for banking apps etc? Not fussed about Samsung pay really.
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Everything should work fine, including carrier specific features such as volte and Vowifi. I have imported a snapdragon S20+ from Hong Kong in Romania and with Orange I have every single carrier features working correctly (Volte/VoWIFI/5G/RCS). It's just that the APN profiles won't get installed by default, at least not in my case. If you have any further questions I'd be glad to help you.
I use the s20 plus snapdragon in the uk, Taiwan model I think.. How do I get Samsung members to show English language mainly

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