So,
Apparently Samsung implamented the eSIM tech within the S20 family...does anyone have a CLEAR understand of which model has what? Normally techwall has a great description of the different models. But there, not once does it mention eSIM, and only ONCE does it mention Dual Sim (988B/FD).
So (2),
988N -> Korean Exynos SingleSim(?) eSIM(?) Snapdragon confirmedOnly one IMEI
9880 -> normally the HK version with dual sim (the note10+ 9750 is dual sim), but is it? or does it have the eSIM enabled
988U - > US unlocked version normally dual SIM
988B/FD - > Dual SIM Exynos (with eSIM also, so you have the choice to use the 2 physical SIMs or 1 physical & eSIM & sd card)
So my questions is summerized by this :
Which Snapdragon has dual "physical" SIMs and which ones have 1 SIM and 1 eSIM... this is so confusing to me
SAO said:
So,
Apparently Samsung implamented the eSIM tech within the S20 family...does anyone have a CLEAR understand of which model has what? Normally techwall has a great description of the different models. But there, not once does it mention eSIM, and only ONCE does it mention Dual Sim (988B/FD).
So (2),
988N -> Korean Exynos SingleSim(?) eSIM(?)
9880 -> normally the HK version with dual sim (the note10+ 9750 is dual sim), but is it? or does it have the eSIM enabled
988U - > US unlocked version normally dual SIM
988B/FD - > Dual SIM Exynos (with eSIM also, so you have the choice to use the 2 physical SIMs or 1 physical & eSIM & sd card)
So my questions is summerized by this :
Which Snapdragon has dual "physical" SIMs and which ones have 1 SIM and 1 eSIM... this is so confusing to me
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They all have an esim, its up to samsung, and carrier to enable it though.
VZTech said:
They all have an esim, its up to samsung, and carrier to enable it though.
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Thanks for your reply.
as they "all have eSIM"... does that mean they also ALL have two IMEIs? as that is hardware based also i think. As you can see on this video : Sakitech on s20U at 0:27 there is onyl 1 IMEI. Maybe because it's a dummy version?
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Thanks for your reply.
as they "all have eSIM"... does that mean they also ALL have two IMEIs? as that is hardware based also i think. As you can see on this video : Sakitech on s20U at 0:27 there is onyl 1 IMEI. Maybe because it's a dummy version?
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It wont have 2 imei's until the esim is activated.
VZTech said:
It wont have 2 imei's until the esim is activated.
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Gotcha, as i'm getting the 9880 next week, i hope it works with dual ... numbers.
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Gotcha, as i'm getting the 9880 next week, i hope it works with dual ... numbers.
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That one is dual sim, so it will work out of the box
No eSIM
according to the global site, in the specs there is NO eSIM on the s20s. But there IS on the zflip.
Portair75 said:
according to the global site, in the specs there is NO eSIM on the s20s. But there IS on the zflip.
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wrong
Search for eSIM... but it says "Global Variant"... so i guess the US models won't have them.
This is all very confusing.
I can't post the links cause I'm a new user. But Google for Galaxy s20 specs will get you to the global site. Compare those with the z flip on same site. S20s don't say eSIM. Z flip does.
Portair75 said:
I can't post the links cause I'm a new user. But Google for Galaxy s20 specs will get you to the global site. Compare those with the z flip on same site. S20s don't say eSIM. Z flip does.
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Well it's written on their global site :
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Well it's written on their global site :
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Ok strange it is not on the first 2 lines as it is on the z flip.
Portair75 said:
Ok strange it is not on the first 2 lines as it is on the z flip.
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Thus my thread... things are not clear.
So which ones have physical dual-sim? Does US model supports 2 nano-sim?
Us unlocked version never has dual sim. You are thinking internation version
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johnwayne27 said:
Us unlocked version never has dual sim. You are thinking internation version
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Thanks.
Sad to be stuck on exynos to get dual-sim
hoppy_barzed said:
Thanks.
Sad to be stuck on exynos to get dual-sim
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There are Snapdragon versions with dual SIM.
Usually it's the Hong Kong version.
Here's a question. Can people who have the same model number but don't have 5G enabled (Indonesia), etc be able to activate it via a firmware upgrade, or through XDA magic? Max Weinbach mentioned that the 5G and non 5G phones are exactly the same.
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Here's a question. Can people who have the same model number but don't have 5G enabled (Indonesia), etc be able to activate it via a firmware upgrade, or through XDA magic? Max Weinbach mentioned that the 5G and non 5G phones are exactly the same.
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Possibly, though Samsung may have put some kind of efuse in place and blown them on the non 5G models
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Possibly, though Samsung may have put some kind of efuse in place and blown them on the non 5G models
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Sorry can you explain what you mean by efuse?
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Apple has had dual radio capability since the XS. (2018)
Kind of ridiculous we don't have it in USA with Samsung. Dual SIM is great, no more toting around two (or more) phones. In the past when they were SMALL it wasn't a problem but pushing 7" screen size, it's an issue. Fortunately my Grip6 belt can handle it!
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What are the differences?
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What are the differences?
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Not sure,
Dash 1 is boot locked, Verizon
All others are unlockable, not sure but mostly at least.
The 02 is the dual sim version. 03 not sure, I think it is a China version.
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EvlSkillz said:
The 02 is the dual sim version. 03 not sure, I think it is a China version.
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-02 is also sold as single SIM. My US unlocked single SIM is XT1635-02.
Visually it appears there may be contacts for a Sim in slot 2, so it may only be a firmware difference between single and dual Sim -02s. Haven't hunted around fit a teardown video (if there is one) to try to find out. I'd actually benefit from a dual Sim at the moment, but not convinced it's worth the risk of flashing a dual Sim firmware on a single Sim model to try to find out.
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-02 is also sold as single SIM. My US unlocked single SIM is XT1635-02.
Visually it appears there may be contacts for a Sim in slot 2, so it may only be a firmware difference between single and dual Sim -02s. Haven't hunted around fit a teardown video (if there is one) to try to find out. I'd actually benefit from a dual Sim at the moment, but not convinced it's worth the risk of flashing a dual Sim firmware on a single Sim model to try to find out.
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What does it say under "About phone" - "Hardware information" last line "Dual SIM"? True or false?
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EvlSkillz said:
What does it say under "About phone" - "Hardware information" last line "Dual SIM"? True or false?
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That line doesn't exist in my "hardware information" menu. NFC is last line.
Here is mine. I'm guessing you don't have dual sim capacity? Hmm...always thought 02 stands for dual sim
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EvlSkillz said:
The 02 is the dual sim version. 03 not sure, I think it is a China version.
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You are right 03 is China version
01 - Verizon (locked)
02 - ROW (Rest Of World)
03 - Chinese variant
Alberto97 said:
01 - Verizon (locked)
02 - ROW (Rest Of World)
03 - Chinese variant
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Hah. TIL ROW stands for rest of world.
Ok, but how do we differentiate between single SIM vs dual SIM, 32GB vs 64GB? Is there any special naming for this?
scandiun said:
Ok, but how do we differentiate between single SIM vs dual SIM, 32GB vs 64GB? Is there any special naming for this?
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hi there
I've got two versions. XT1635-02 it is UK dual sim version in my case... ( I was very surprised it is dual sim when it came, I bought it on Motorola UK website..) and I've got XT1635-03 which I bought on aliexpress. It is Chinese dual sim version with 64GB . The latter came with unlocked bootloader for some reason ( box was factory sealed or at least looked like..) and I cannot use Android pay... , however very happy with both.
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Ok, but how do we differentiate between single SIM vs dual SIM, 32GB vs 64GB? Is there any special naming for this?
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However I don't know how to differentiate them... Only when get to the settings I guess...
agaryt said:
hi there
I've got two versions. XT1635-02 it is UK dual sim version in my case... ( I was very surprised it is dual sim when it came, I bought it on Motorola UK website..) and I've got XT1635-03 which I bought on aliexpress. It is Chinese dual sim version with 64GB . The latter came with unlocked bootloader for some reason ( box was factory sealed or at least looked like..) and I cannot use Android pay... , however very happy with both.
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I didn't know there were a dual SIM version with 64GB. Can you post a picture or screenshot of something?
scandiun said:
I didn't know there were a dual SIM version with 64GB. Can you post a picture or screenshot of something?
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there is picture in my post above yours
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there is picture in my post above yours
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I can see it's 64GB but there no mention to dual sim.
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I can see it's 64GB but there no mention to dual sim.
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look at this picture very carefully once more.....
at the top just next to the battery icon.... one card has 4G signal second one 3G .... still don't believe?
well even help desk uk didn't know that such model exists when I phoned them.... and there you are...
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I can see it's 64GB but there no mention to dual sim.
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just to make it clear I attach another picture which states it is dual sim XT1635-03 with 64GB
agaryt said:
just to make it clear I attach another picture which states it is dual sim XT1635-03 with 64GB
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I see thank you very much!
agaryt said:
hi there
I've got two versions. XT1635-02 it is UK dual sim version in my case... ( I was very surprised it is dual sim when it came, I bought it on Motorola UK website..) and I've got XT1635-03 which I bought on aliexpress. It is Chinese dual sim version with 64GB . The latter came with unlocked bootloader for some reason ( box was factory sealed or at least looked like..) and I cannot use Android pay... , however very happy with both.
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Hey i have the chinese dual sim 64 gb version and i have the exact same problem. I haven't received any OTAs, and Moto support tells me my phone has been rooted before! I bought it brand new, and the box was sealed!
Have you received any OTA on your Chinese one?
Hi to you all.
I'm about to buy a S9 from Vodafone.
Vodafone blocks the dual-sim functionality on all dual-sim devices that they sell.
However, a year or two ago I came across with a Huawei P8 Lite for my kid and there was a trick that managed to make the P8 dual sim once again.
We had to unlock the device with the proper code and then install the TPH Rom from Huawei.
Do you think that the same thing will happen with the S9?
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Hi to you all.
I'm about to buy a S9 from Vodafone.
Vodafone blocks the dual-sim functionality on all dual-sim devices that they sell.
However, a year or two ago I came across with a Huawei P8 Lite for my kid and there was a trick that managed to make the P8 dual sim once again.
We had to unlock the device with the proper code and then install the TPH Rom from Huawei.
Do you think that the same thing will happen with the S9?
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I don't think so. On Samsung (not sure about others) they do not assign a secondary IMEI on the single SIM versions so that will be the biggest problem even if you find a way to activate it.
My point is that Vodafone does not have single sim phones. They sell the dual-sim S9 but they block the 2nd SIM functionality.
Not a hardware problem.
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My point is that Vodafone does not have single sim phones. They sell the dual-sim S9 but they block the 2nd SIM functionality.
Not a hardware problem.
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That might be true for Huawei phones but that has not been my experience with Samsung. Typically the dual SIM Samsungs are a different SKU, they are even labelled as 'Duos' on the device (I am looking at my dual SIM S7 now).
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That might be true for Huawei phones but that has not been my experience with Samsung. Typically the dual SIM Samsungs are a different SKU, they are even labelled as 'Duos' on the device (I am looking at my dual SIM S7 now).
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That was true until the S8....indeed Dual Sim models were different from single-sim models.
But with S9, there is no single-sim model in Europe, so the S9 that Vodafone will receive is the same... they just block de dual-sim conectivity, just as they did with the huawei models, that were all dual-sim.
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That was true until the S8....indeed Dual Sim models were different from single-sim models.
But with S9, there is no single-sim model in Europe, so the S9 that Vodafone will receive is the same... they just block de dual-sim conectivity, just as they did with the huawei models, that were all dual-sim.
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Oh wow had no idea, thank you for the heads up. I have always wondered why Samsung have the option for either single or dual sim when buying direct from their site, particularly as they are the same price.
I know EVR-L29 represents the dual sim model But are there any single sim models?
Reason I ask is, a shop here in the UK is selling one but don’t say if it’s dual sim or not.
Google struggle to finds any mention of a single sim model.
GSMArena shows a global model and and China model.
Thanks.
bigup7 said:
I know EVR-L29 represents the dual sim model But are there any single sim models?
Reason I ask is, a shop here in the UK is selling one but don’t say if it’s dual sim or not.
Google struggle to finds any mention of a single sim model.
GSMArena shows a global model and and China model.
Thanks.
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Don't see any single sim
https://www.frequencycheck.com/brands/huawei?utf8=✓&q[full_name_cont]=Huawei+mate+20+x&commit=Search
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Don't see any single sim
https://www.frequencycheck.com/brands/huawei?utf8=✓&q[full_name_cont]=Huawei+mate+20+x&commit=Search
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Perfect. Thanks
Hi guys
I would like to know. If I buy a Canadian S20 without e-sim, is there a way to enable this? Its hopeless for me without the e-sim as I need to use it for business like my IPhone which has an e-sim.
Thanks if you could help
Michél
lupinaro said:
Hi guys
I would like to know. If I buy a Canadian S20 without e-sim, is there a way to enable this? Its hopeless for me without the e-sim as I need to use it for business like my IPhone which has an e-sim.
Thanks if you could help
Michél
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No, however rumor has it a future update may facilitate this function but don't hold your breath! There are International variants which offer Dual SIM's. Samsung should make this option more widely available.
varcor said:
No, however rumor has it a future update may facilitate this function but don't hold your breath! There are International variants which offer Dual SIM's. Samsung should make this option more widely available.
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Pity, cause the UK version with the e-sim sells at Walmart but its $1900!!! Ridiculous!!!
US version also disabled.
lupinaro said:
Pity, cause the UK version with the e-sim sells at Walmart but its $1900!!! Ridiculous!!!
US version also disabled.
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I'd pass on the Exynos SOC. The Dual SIM Snapdragon S20 Plus is available on eBay for $882.00.
Awesome yes but will Samsung pay etc work here in Canada?
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Awesome yes but will Samsung pay etc work here in Canada?
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Yes
https://www.samsung.com/ca/apps/samsung-pay/
I have the Hong Kong variant, it works in the US. There's a number of NFC Payment platforms, the main thing is your bank needs to be aligned with whatever platform you chose. Almost all banks facilitate Samsung MTS.
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Awesome yes but will Samsung pay etc work here in Canada?
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My experience with Samsung Pay and the HK variant is based on the Note 10 - out of the box, Samsung Pay will only work with AmEx in Canada with a dual SIM Snapdragon variant. Google Pay does work without any issues.
One other thing to consider - the HK/China/Taiwan Snapdragon variant does not have the same 5G bands as the Canadian one.
Quick Question. If you change the CSC to enable the e-sim in Canada. Which one do I use to still retain the Samsung pay and VOLTE?
thanks
Michél
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Quick Question. If you change the CSC to enable the e-sim in Canada. Which one do I use to still retain the Samsung pay and VOLTE?
thanks
Michél
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I'm not aware of any Snapdragon Variants which offer eSim with one exception, the Galaxy Fold but I haven't heard feedback from Snapdragon users with Canadian Branded Devices.
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Quick Question. If you change the CSC to enable the e-sim in Canada. Which one do I use to still retain the Samsung pay and VOLTE?
thanks
Michél
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At this time, there is no way to enable the eSIM on the Canadian model S20 series.
Hey thanx. Pity. Mabe OnePlus is the answer then.
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Hey thanx. Pity. Mabe OnePlus is the answer then.
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Be aware that the OnePlus 8 Pro has dual-SIM functionality disabled right now. I have the OP 8 Pro and dual SIM is supposed to be enabled at a later date,
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Be aware that the OnePlus 8 Pro has dual-SIM functionality disabled right now. I have the OP 8 Pro and dual SIM is supposed to be enabled at a later date,
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Yes, just saw that... so I am sort of screwed right now with no options but to buy grey. No go as not even VOLTe will work.../samsung pay
Telus might be allowing VoLTE and VoWiFi on unlocked phones... I am so disappointed with VoLTE / WiFi needing to be baked into firmware on Android, what's going to happen when HSPA is retired? Also why was it so hard to begin with, the tower should be the keeper / sender of the related settings.
To enable esim, you must find the firmware from the region & telco that support esim , and you must change the firmware *and* the csc too. changing only one of them will not do.
I recently bought a moto g 5g and everything that I read said it was a dual sim phone.To my surprise when the phone arrived it was only single sim.Can I buy a dual sim sim tray and dual sim will work?
gearrys said:
I recently bought a moto g 5g and everything that I read said it was a dual sim phone.To my surprise when the phone arrived it was only single sim.Can I buy a dual sim sim tray and dual sim will work?
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If the device only displays 1 IMEI, then is cannot support Dual SIMs, do you have the exact model number?
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If the device only displays 1 IMEI, then is cannot support Dual SIMs, do you have the exact model number?
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Thanks for the information. Moto support reached out to me and told me I have an Australian model (XT2075-3). It's crazy because everything I read about the phone online did not mention anything about single sim model. Before I bout it I even googled the model number and found nothing.
That's sad :\
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Thanks for the information. Moto support reached out to me and told me I have an Australian model (XT2075-3). It's crazy because everything I read about the phone online did not mention anything about single sim model. Before I bout it I even googled the model number and found nothing.
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So, come to find out motorola sells 2 phones with the same model number. 1 is the carrier version that is single sim and the second is the retail version that is dual sim
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So, come to find out motorola sells 2 phones with the same model number. 1 is the carrier version that is single sim and the second is the retail version that is dual sim
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yeah, we had the same problem with at least Moto G 1st gen and Moto G5 : both signle and dual SIM were available (it was even worse with 1st gen as there was also a 4G/LTE version)
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So, come to find out motorola sells 2 phones with the same model number. 1 is the carrier version that is single sim and the second is the retail version that is dual sim
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That sucks, i got mine from jb hifi and its definitely dual sim. Id be blaming telstra/optus for the single sim thing, no doubt they have more than a little say in it.... Cant have you using one of the other carriers cards in there now