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Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

10. Photos are amazing!

10... Would use for professional purposes.
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10 - Photos are great! No complaints here!
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i've been testing the Note 7 camera side by side with the OnePlus 3 and Xiaomi MI 5 and Huawei P9 cameras, and while the Note 7 is slightly better, it's just very, very slightly, and it's mostly in low light setting. i don't see much difference in day time shots. i think in 2016, all smartphone cameras are pretty damn legit. so all these tech reviewers saying the Note 7 has "hands down the best camera by far", i don't agree with them. (it's worth keeping in mind all those other phones i mentioned cost literally HALF AS MUCH as the note 7)

I think I can safely retire my Sony NEX-6 now for majority of uses. The photos coming out of this camera are amazing.

Amazing even compared to my Fuji X T1.
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NIKKOTUASON said:
Amazing even compared to my Fuji X T1
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Please fix this.

I'm impressed so far.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-dYQXNfPs7UeGdhR2JSQ05HMGc/view?usp=drivesdk

S6 and S7 had white balance/colour temperature issues indoors.
Also overexposure.
S7 was noticeably soft in any conditions.
Does the Note 7 fix any of those?
Waiting to see way more side by side reviews.

I had no problem with indoor white balance under LED, but since you can have so many different variants in lightning I don't think there is a camera that would do it right all the time in auto mode, but you can switch to manual WB if you want.
overexposure, sure if you really work hard on it, like shoot from inside tunel against sun, but you can use spot meter in tricky light condition to keep what you need properly exposed, but auto works fine most of the time for me.
soft in any condition: are you talking about selfie cam? Because yes, that has fixed focus and will be soft, but rear cam doesn't seem soft when properly focused and again you have control where it should be focus on.
Have you actually used any of those cams, or just read about it somewhere, because I haven't so couldn't compare.
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radioraheem2 said:
i've been testing the Note 7 camera side by side with the OnePlus 3 and Xiaomi MI 5 and Huawei P9 cameras, and while the Note 7 is slightly better, it's just very, very slightly, and it's mostly in low light setting. i don't see much difference in day time shots. i think in 2016, all smartphone cameras are pretty damn legit. so all these tech reviewers saying the Note 7 has "hands down the best camera by far", i don't agree with them. (it's worth keeping in mind all those other phones i mentioned cost literally HALF AS MUCH as the note 7)
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Can OnePlus3, MI5 or P9 do underwater photography? Because I'm planning to, this weekend with N7.
Do any of those have something similar to s-pen? Because I use it everyday can't live without it and it would be nice to have other options.
Can I see the screen on other phones with sun shining directly on it? Because so far Note7 is the only screen I've seen that I have no problem seeing in full sun. But I haven't try any of the ones you mentioned.
And very very slightly better, so it is actually better?
Maybe there are reasons why N7 is more expensive, otherwise nobody would buy it? And with the discounts, free giveaways etc. maybe N7 is not as expensive as it first seem.

pete4k said:
I had no problem with indoor white balance under LED, but since you can have so many different variants in lightning I don't think there is a camera that would do it right all the time in auto mode, but you can switch to manual WB if you want.
overexposure, sure if you really work hard on it, like shoot from inside tunel against sun, but you can use spot meter in tricky light condition to keep what you need properly exposed, but auto works fine most of the time for me.
soft in any condition: are you talking about selfie cam? Because yes, that has fixed focus and will be soft, but rear cam doesn't seem soft when properly focused and again you have control where it should be focus on.
Have you actually used any of those cams, or just read about it somewhere, because I haven't so couldn't compare.
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Can OnePlus3, MI5 or P9 do underwater photography? Because I'm planning to, this weekend with N7.
Do any of those have something similar to s-pen? Because I use it everyday can't live without it and it would be nice to have other options.
Can I see the screen on other phones with sun shining directly on it? Because so far Note7 is the only screen I've seen that I have no problem seeing in full sun. But I haven't try any of the ones you mentioned.
And very very slightly better, so it is actually better?
Maybe there are reasons why N7 is more expensive, otherwise nobody would buy it? And with the discounts, free giveaways etc. maybe N7 is not as expensive as it first seem.
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The camera is slightly better. Here are photos to prove it (http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...better-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones)
Of all the other bonus note features you mentioned, waterproofing is the only real universal useful feature that everyone would want. Hundreds of millions of people use a phone without a stylus and they couldn't care less. Plenty of people use the one plus 3 outdoors and sees the screen fine.
Using note 7's sales numberse to show the phone's supposed superiority is also a flawed argument, since a lot of that is branding and name recognition. It's like saying nike shoes are for sure the best because they sell the most.
I'm not really bashing the note 7 here, I have the phone and I like it a lot, I'm merely saying it's probably not worth more than double the price of the one plus 3, that's all I'm saying. 450 dollars more is not a small deal. 450 bucks can buy a lot, a lot of things.

It's tough to use the note front cam after using the 6P. The front cam on the 6P is an absolute monster, typically producing photos nearly as good as the REAR camera on my wife's iphone 6.
Vs the note 7 and S7e, the selfie cam pics are noticeably much less sharp and focused. A quick google search for blurry selfie pics for the Galaxy 7 devices yields countless forums of people complaining about this.
No idea if it's the software or the actual hardware that is the problem but it's absolutely there.

I am totally satisfied with the camera. (considering s4 and zenfone 2 were my previous devices.) I guess note 7 will be enough to handle daily shots for even business purposes. Any questions?

So, what's the difference between Bokeh (on the new iphone 7...after a software update) and what our phones do now....where the background is blurry?

meboy said:
S6 and S7 had white balance/colour temperature issues indoors.
Also overexposure.
S7 was noticeably soft in any conditions.
Does the Note 7 fix any of those?
Waiting to see way more side by side reviews.
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I confirm that the camera is perfect. I have Exynos version

I'm satisfied

AdrianR2016 said:
I confirm that the camera is perfect. I have Exynos version
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saturation and colors are great but oversharped a bit on my opinion

I think all photos a "yellow-ish" a bit and expose are too high in some difficult scenarios like front sun etc

If Samsung can decrease/eliminate the oversharpening part, it will be a perfect camera here.

Help me decide,LENOVO P2 ergonomics and weight

Hi friends, need some feedback here. I am going to buy a new phone and after going through many reviews I have shortlisted Lenovo P2(India).Although there are some shortcomings, but I think the positives out weigh the negatives here. But one thing is making my decision difficult here......size and weight of the device. The reason being, right now I am using a very light weight and compact device galaxy s4 mini. So, friends please tell me is Lenovo p2 too big and bulky(or is it manageable!!)and how is the overall weight distribution.
Also, please tell can we receive OTA updates once we unlock the bootloader. I hope you guys help me decide and eagerly waiting your feedbacks(any other pros n cons I should know)
Thanks for reading.

matesurano said:
Hi friends, need some feedback here. I am going to buy a new phone and after going through many reviews I have shortlisted Lenovo P2(India).Although there are some shortcomings, but I think the positives out weigh the negatives here. But one thing is making my decision difficult here......size and weight of the device. The reason being, right now I am using a very light weight and compact device galaxy s4 mini. So, friends please tell me is Lenovo p2 too big and bulky(or is it manageable!!)and how is the overall weight distribution.
Also, please tell can we receive OTA updates once we unlock the bootloader. I hope you guys help me decide and eagerly waiting your feedbacks(any other pros n cons I should know)
Thanks for reading.
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The weight is normal for such battery. It's quite big but you get used to it. As far as OTA I don't think you get with unlocked bootloader but im not sure

chtsarts said:
The weight is normal for such battery. It's quite big but you get used to it. As far as OTA I don't think you get with unlocked bootloader but im not sure
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Thanks. I guess the size is somewhat similar to redmi note3!!
Feedbacks from other users will be appreciated.

matesurano said:
is Lenovo p2 too big and bulky(or is it manageable!!).
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You must take it in your hand and test. Your comfort depends from the size of your hand.
My previous phone was Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - 79 mm width generally great phone but I could not live with it because one hand was not enough in some cases.. So I switched to Lenovo P1 and Lenovo P2 consequently. 75 mm width. Only 4 mm difference but it made a great matter for me personally

pabgar said:
You must take it in your hand and test. Your comfort depends from the size of your hand.
My previous phone was Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - 79 mm width generally great phone but I could not live with it because one hand was not enough in some cases.. So I switched to Lenovo P1 and Lenovo P2 consequently. 75 mm width. Only 4 mm difference but it made a great matter for me personally
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Thanks. The problem is its online only in our country and not available in local stores. So can't check out before purchase. Btw, I have small hands for a guy.

matesurano said:
The problem is its online only in our country and not available in local stores. So can't check out before purchase. .
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Go to your local cellphone store and find any phone with 75-76 mm width. Surely you will find something. So you will get some idea.
P2 is well balanced right in the center.
My advice: check if you can reach the left side of the screen with your thumb not loosing grip of the phone - if you are right handed .
If not: rater go for Xiaomi Redmi 5" family phones. My wife and daughter got them and they are really satisfied. Their battery life is quite good compared to P2

I don't find the phone heavy and I know what Redmi Note 3 Pro feels in the hand. Honestly Lenovo P2 feels and looks much more premuim than most or even all the phones in it's price segment. I love this phone. Nougat is coming, many custom roms, fabulous screen and battery, snappy performance, all is right on spot.

Hi have compared RedmiNote3 and RedmiNote4 with P2, Feel in hand is same..
due to its metalic body, P2 is very slippery, hence i had to apply a SKIN for it.. i am using P2 with a SKIN on Back, and plastic screenGaurd on front
5.5 factor is onething which gives me cramps .. i had to stretch my fingers without letting phone fall from my hand Though using gestures and placing app icons reachable would solve this
with this huge battery, the weight is OK, not too heavy, we get used to it in a week ,
Weight :: an Iphone7 with leather case = redminote 3/4 with some kind of silicone case = our P2 with light Skin on it
This is my experience
but i am sure you can get used to it, unless you have small hands ..
all the best

P2 has micro screen feature
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Thanks everyone for your feedbacks . Most probably I would be placing an order today cause a discount of Rs.1000 is there only for today. Btw, somebody in the forum talked about his phone charging at a very slow rate, do you guys face the same problem!?

matesurano said:
Btw, somebody in the forum talked about his phone charging at a very slow rate, do you guys face the same problem!?
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Seems he is the one and only

i also face the same thing, but i am definite its temperature difference causing the charging at slower rates, its summer here..

answering my own question. lol...
Just a feed back so that it helps somebody like me. You guys were right. Coming from a very small device like galaxy s4 mini i was very worried about p2. Not only about its dimensions but the weight also. But since getting the p2 (got it on 8th April) and using it i can say that it doesn't feel bulky or dense. Though technically its much heavier than my previous device, but the weight distribution is done very well. And the good thing is when you get such a battery life, u forget about those things. This phone is not at all popular in the mass market. And i think it is very cheap also(price wise). And the reason being lack of ads, marketing and promotions from lenovo side. Lenovo can make it a second oneplus 3/3t(read dev friendly), they just need to release proper sources. No doubt the stock software is good. But we need a killer of the "flagship killer" at half the price. And I think this phone HAS the potential.
..........Just my opinion. Feel free to share yours.

matesurano said:
Just a feed back so that it helps somebody like me. You guys were right. Coming from a very small device like galaxy s4 mini i was very worried about p2. Not only about its dimensions but the weight also. But since getting the p2 (got it on 8th April) and using it i can say that it doesn't feel bulky or dense. Though technically its much heavier than my previous device, but the weight distribution is done very well. And the good thing is when you get such a battery life, u forget about those things. This phone is not at all popular in the mass market. And i think it is very cheap also(price wise). And the reason being lack of ads, marketing and promotions from lenovo side. Lenovo can make it a second oneplus 3/3t(read dev friendly), they just need to release proper sources. No doubt the stock software is good. But we need a killer of the "flagship killer" at half the price. And I think this phone HAS the potential.
..........Just my opinion. Feel free to share yours.
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I've bought this phone two days ago, coming from s3 neo I can say that you're right, this phone is simply amazing and it feels totally right

Win One of Five Honor Prizes: Just Comment to Win!

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Win One of Five Honor Prizes: Just Comment to Win!​
The Honor View20 has been out for about a month now since its global launch. The phone has been receiving a lot of press surrounding its 48MP camera, the TOF sensor, the hole-punch selfie camera and more.
With the short time that the phone has been available, the Honor View20 has received several awards and fantastic reviews from the media.
To celebrate the success of the phone, Honor is giving away an Honor 7X and four bluetooth headsets. All you have to do for a chance to win, is comment in this thread.
Grand Prize: Honor 7X
Second Prized: 4x Bluetooth Speaker
Besides the media, Honor also would to hear the comments and thoughts from you--leave a comment sharing your top five favorite things about the Honor View20. The winner will be selected based on the quality of the post.
Rules:
Only one post per person
New accounts are disqualified
Post must be made before 3/8/19
Good luck!
Update: This contest is over. Congrats to the winners!
First Place Winner: natsusii
Second Place Winners: Smac89, Rommco05, ThE_MarD, Mizart

Yeay i want to win one of the Honor Headphones or better the new Honor View 20 Phone self.
This would be nice..
My big 5 for the View 20 are :
1. The 4000 mah Akku
2. Headphone jack include.. Not everyone is using Bluetooth Headphones
3. Kirin 980 same as in the Mate 20 with 6 GB of ram.
4. Android Pie out of the Box and New Magic Ui looks much better as on Android 8.
5. The nice back Nano Design
Sry for my bad English
Greetings
Patrick

I love Honor V20 for various reasons:
Honor V20's Design
Like all Honor mobiles, the V20 build quality is good, this time its more premium looking with metal and glass build .The back side is constructed with others tone finish so the phone is a good looking smartphone at this price segment. When we come to the front side the screen ratio is high that give more feel to us and the bezels is very minimal on this phone.
Honor V20's Display
When we talk about the display, you are getting a 6.4-inch full-view IPS LCD display with FHD+(1080x2310 pixels) resolution, giving a full screen to body ratio. Don't like other phones, the notch is not appear here. The notch is replaced by the Hole display. The display is good here.
Honor V20's Camera
On the camera, the rear Honor V20 uses Sony IMX586 48MP sensor with a 1/2 inch pixel size. Next to the camera is the 3D ToF sensor. On the front, located in the hole drilled on the screen is a 25MP camera. The Honor V20 cameras are supported by dedicated NPU in the Kirin 980 chip, ensuring every AI task is best handled. Particularly, the rear camera will have the support of the fourth-generation ISP image processing chip and high quality night mode.
Honor V20's Battery
The Honor V20 is equipped with a Kirin 980 chip. Compared to the previous generation, this chip has 75% higher CPU performance and 46% higher GPU performance. V20 has 4.000mAh battery with 22.5V fast charger. THE NINE liquid cooling feature is also a remarkable point of V20. Moreover, the three WALN antenna design of the Honor V20 also eliminates ugly cuts on the chassis
Other impressive features of V20 include Turbo 2.0 GPU (which helps speed up devices when playing games), cloud computing with the ability to turn this phone into a Windows 10 computer and GPU Cloud helps V20 become a Super gaming machine.
I love Honor V20

Hello it could be nice to win this phone, it juste beautiful ? ? sorry for the English I'm French ^^
Sent from my Honor 8X using XDA Labs

Well...I leave a comment too. My mom needs a phone,so why not try?
Top things are great about Honor View 20,in my opinion:
1. The design of the screen,without a notch,but with a small circle for camera
2. The positioning of the fingerprint sensor...on the back,not on the front like most of the new flagships
3. The chipset,kirin 980,latest from Huawei,used by Mate 20 Pro too.
4. The battery. 4000mah battery is great,especially because kirin 980 is a 7nm processor,so it uses less power than previous models.
5. The cameras are very good for this price range,maybe better than flagships from other companies.
6. The price. For what it offers,it's a best buy
Cheers from Romania!

It would be nice to see Honor device with COSP

I am trying to think of a sob story to get people to feel sorry for me and think that I deserve to win, but in reality it doesnt work that way. Im pretty sure they pick an entrant with a random algo, or something like that. Any how Im in, never used Huawei before would be fun to try.
1. Camera
2. Design
3. Price
4. Headphone jack
5. Holepunch

I never win anything but let me try my luck

Top 5 things, simply reduced to this:
1. The display. Yes. Nowadays, everything seems to be about OLED, but hey, a good IPS panel is at least worth the same. And this is the case here.
2. The battery. 4000mAh?! Hell yes, more phones should have this at least. The Honor View 20 has it. Well done. This what we've been asking for. This should be sufficient for 2 days of usage, which is great.
3. The headphone jack. Yes, because, why ditching something, which is just working? USB-C audio is superior, yes. But there is still not much choice around for headphones. So you have to use dongles. And no one likes dongles..
4. The camera. At least according to pictures I've seen taken by the View 20, it's for example a huge improvement to my OnePlus 5. Pictures of my OP5 look weirdly mediocre compared to the View 20's outputs, which look sharp, well-balanced in terms of temperature and colors and the night mode seems to be very powerful.
5. The price, obviously. Yes, of course! I really don't know what OEMs are thinking by releasing price tags of ~1000€++. The View 20 proves that flagship features don't have to cost a third of an average monthly income. This is praiseworthy and proves that one often has to pay just for the brand's name (Sammy, err...).

This is a flag ship phone that doesn't empty your pockets! Great looks, and a huge battery. Where does the line start for those who want one of these?

Commenting to win.

I love:
the design, the back texture and the shape.
the single great camera.
the ToF sensor.
the huge battery.
the headphone jack.
the chipset whit liquid heat dissipators.
the new trend launched by Honor for hole-punch front camera.
All at an affordable price!

love the colors, the design, the overall specs, the camera and the display!

That charming blue color attracted me

Sir ,When will I receive my prize for the Honor 8x Ask the manager thread giveaway that happened three months ago ?
Hope this counts as a comment
@XDARoni. Sir you mentioned Bluetooth headset once and Bluetooth Speaker once in the op for the second prize. Please correct it

...And whatever you spend of good – it will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.'' [2: 272]

This phone seems really cool, I love the camera quality on this phone. Would really love to have one of them

Honor View20 Phantom Blue, good size, battery design and performance.

Stuck with a Samsung S6 since it came out. A new phone would be great also. And another set of blutooth headset is never too much also. Thanks for the simplicity to enter this contest

Daddy, can I please have a new Honor phone for school?

General Pixel 6 Pro review: 2 weeks later / Compared to competitors

After 2 weeks with the phone, I wanted to give honest thoughts on the Pixel 6 Pro. I paid for the phone and did not get a free review unit like many reviewers online. I have used man Samsung, OnePlus, and even Apple phones, so I have a fair basis for comparison. Hopefully this helps those deciding which phone to get.
The Screen: 9/10:
Everything is very crisp, color temperature is accurate, and gray uniformity is outstanding. This panel does NOT suffer from OLED image retention like 2020 models did. The screen is not quite as bright or as saturated as the Samsung, OnePlus, or Apple panels. It is still sufficiently bright for me, but others may find they need to use it at 100% brightness often.
Signal Strength / Wireless Connetivity: 7/10
When comparing to the Note20 Ultra, signal strength is not as consistent. It hovers around 2-4 db lower strength. I've not had any dropped or choppy calls, but have noticed slightly slower data speeds in fringe signal areas. The Note20 Ultra outperforms the iPhone 11 Pro Max in signal strength so perhaps it's just good vs great. The earpiece speaker is not as loud as the Samsungs either.
Battery Life: 10/10
With moderate usage, and the phone being on steady 5G or WiFi. it has about 40% battery left after 13 hours. It has incredible standby battery and barely drains at all when not in use.
Build Quality: 8.5/10
The phone feels very solid, and the weight helps give a premium feel. That said, the screen doesn't feel as solid as Samsung or OnePlus models. Like the iPhone, it almost has a pliable feel to it, which isn't necessarily a negative but takes some adjustment. Compare the overall build to an S21 Ultra or OnePlus 9 Pro and it doesn't feel quite as premium.
Camera: 9.5/10
The camera produces outstanding photos every time. With Samsung and OnePlus, one has to let things focus and adjust to get a great photo. The P6P seems much faster and more reliable. Perhaps the iPhone 13 Pro models are slightly better in some instances, but that's splitting hairs.
Speakers: 9.5/10
This phone has a deep rich sound with great bass, similar to the iPhone. Samsung and OnePlus models sound good, but lack bass. I ding it half a point because in some situations, the sound isn't balanced between the speakers.
Software experience: 8/10
Given the clean, bloat free software, the phone is extremely fast and fluid. That said Android 12 doesn't feel complete yet. Certain apps freeze up often and I do get occasional stutters. I'm sure this will be improved in future updates. While "Stock Android" has been the gold standard for many, it lacks many of the great features baked into OneUI and OxygenOS. The simple ability to customize the lockscreen and Always on Demand, or to change the font and icon shapes have all been removed. The wallpaper based color theming is a great concept but has very poor execution (It picks random accent colors unrelated to the wallpaper). As bloated and bogged down as OneUI is, one has to acknowledge the endless customization options offered, especially with GoodLock.
The extra Pixel features really make this phone such as call screening, on hold assistant, now playing, etc. Google really needs to move the power button below the volume rocker. As phones get taller, the high placement is less practical.
Overall: 8.5/10
Many of us have wanted a Samsung phone running stock Android for years, and finally we have something very close. The camera, the speakers, and the software fluidity make this phone stand out a bit, but is that enough? At $899, the phone is priced right where it should be. That said, I can't help but feeling like the S21 Ultra is a more complete and polished package and when it goes on sale regularly, it may be a better choice. A OnePlus 9 Pro running an AOSP rom would probably give a similar experience for less money on sale as well. If one isn't firmly set on stock Android, I'd say wait for the S22 Ultra.
I like the phone a lot and will be using it as my daily driver for now but it's important to know the drawbacks and quirks. I hope this helps.

Thank you for write up!

Informative review! kudos

Guyinlaca said:
Google really needs to move the power button below the volume rocker. As phones get taller, the high placement is less practical.
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Amen to that. I also question if I should have gotten an on sale s21 or waited for the s22, but my last phone was a Samsung and this is my first Pixel, so I'm pleased with broadening my horizons. Plus we're going to be getting feature drops for a good while, and faster updates, so I believe this phone will only get better as they address it's growing pains
Good write up

Opensystem said:
Amen to that. I also question if I should have gotten an on sale s21 or waited for the s22, but my last phone was a Samsung and this is my first Pixel, so I'm pleased with broadening my horizons. Plus we're going to be getting feature drops for a good while, and faster updates, so I believe this phone will only get better as they address it's growing pains
Good write up
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You'll get used to it, it even has benefits to shoot photos.
Since I've been a Pixel owner for a couple of years now, I've grown to like the placement. I hope that Google will never change it, since that would break my way to shoot photos.

Morgrain said:
You'll get used to it, it even has benefits to shoot photos.
Since I've been a Pixel owner for a couple of years now, I've grown to like the placement. I hope that Google will never change it, since that would break my way to shoot photos.
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You're not wrong, I've been using this phone not even a month and when I grab my old one I swipe from the side to go back like a moron for 5 mins until I remember it has a navbar lol

You were lucky with your network standby battery usage. It feels like I own a 3000mAh battery phone. Google offered me a replacement and I have the same issue with the new one. Imagine network signal consuming 3 times more battery as the display.
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General Just How Awesome Is This Thing? (First Impressions)

I've been modding phones since the OG Razr days, and even though I don't do a whole lot anymore, I still consider phones a hobby. I was going to wait for the Fold5 or the Google Fold, but after doing a buttload of research (my normal M.O.), I decided that the Fold4 was ready for prime time. Throw in the fantastic trade-in deals and it was hard to say, no. As I told my wife, I haven't been this excited about a phone in a long time. I have to say, I'm impressed. Haven't had it quite twenty-four hours yet, but it's blowing me away. Obviously, the Samsung screens look beautiful. Sure, the outer screen is narrow, but not unusable. Especially if you swipe type. The inner screen? Well, that's what it's all about, isn't it? It's gorgeous, I love all the real estate, and being able to fold it up and throw it in my pocket is icing on the cake. I plan on reading more, and using it for GPS/Waze in the car is freakin' awesome! I'm really loving it. My only complaint, so far, is the sideways scrolling in the app drawer. Come on, Samsung! Continuous perpendicular scrolling is much more convenient. Thoughts? How do you folks like yours? Tell us what you like and dislike.

Dude, download GoodLock and you will love it even more.

tengtengvn said:
Dude, download GoodLock and you will love it even more.
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Cool! I stopped rooting with my Pixel 6 Pro. I could ad block without root and with dark mode baked in I was somewhat satisfied, but I did miss Substratum. This is like Substratum without root. Love it! Thanks.

spotmark said:
Cool! I stopped rooting with my Pixel 6 Pro. I could ad block without root and with dark mode baked in I was somewhat satisfied, but I did miss Substratum. This is like Substratum without root. Love it! Thanks.
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you do have HEX installer for Samsung, but atm it does not work on Fold4.
Android Apps by SatySatsZB & envy_ on Google Play
#hex_themes_plugins#
play.google.com

The fold for is such an impressive phone. I'm sorry that I waited this long to dive into the fold arena. I use the flip 3 and flip 4 but got rid of those phones and this one takes the cake. I don't think I can ever go back to a regular slab phone again.

coming from a note 9, i don't think i'll be able to go back to a slab phone. i've been holding off buying anything and for the longest time my note 9 was my daily driver. if i wanted to upgrade it, it would be something different. i was almost tempted to get the fold 3 but opted to wait until the fold 4 came out. the outer screen being wider than the fold 3 (ok, just a little bit) and the cameras were the clinchers. my wife got me the fold 4 for father's day after she saw me reading/browsing and making numerous trips to jb hifi to inspect the phone on display. the spen is fantastic and the only thing i lost from the note 9's pen is the camera bt remote and the sound it makes when i take out the pen (my son asked me to change the remove and insert to sounds of a light saber). took me a day or so of fiddling around and setting it up to the way i want it to be. it's now the same layout as my note 9 which suits me. i'm still using nova launcher with a klwp preset for the inner screen. outer screen is using just a static, black wallpaper. goodlock has proven to be very useful as the alternative to one ui's taskbar and it's provided me with an easy power off and screenshot buttons. the only shortcoming i've seen so far is sometimes android auto fails to connect with the phone. i know that an update is on the way to fix this but at the moment and easy work around is to clear up the cache from google playstore. other than that, the inner screen real estate is fantastic for browsing, reading books, vids, and all.

Running x2 versions of Cyberpunk on one device whilst also being able to download and extract saved games files from Stadia (try doing that on a system without an oen file management setup).
This thing isn't a phone, its a computer that fits my pocket!!
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Me: Verizon will give me all but $99 back for my Pixel 6 Pro toward a Fold4. I'm going to order one.
Wife: You're getting a new phone? You haven't had that one a year yet.
Guess who's Fold4 is being delivered today. She had her 6 Pro for a shorter time than I had mine.

I'm gettuing annoyed with both the skinny front screen and the crease. I have an Oppo Find N and the crease is almost non-existent, as well as a Vivo X Fold. The outer display on the X Fold is the perfect size, I find the Find N a bit small now (think 2009 size) and the crease is also a hell of a lot better. Both these phones were purchased long before the Z Fold4 and neither crease is getting worse over time.
My perfect foldable would be the X Fold hardware (adding in S pen too) with the Z Fold firmware. And add in a micro SD card slot as well.
Until these phones hit the global market however, Samsung won't do anything about this.

ultramag69 said:
I'm gettuing annoyed with both the skinny front screen and the crease. I have an Oppo Find N and the crease is almost non-existent, as well as a Vivo X Fold. The outer display on the X Fold is the perfect size, I find the Find N a bit small now (think 2009 size) and the crease is also a hell of a lot better. Both these phones were purchased long before the Z Fold4 and neither crease is getting worse over time.
My perfect foldable would be the X Fold hardware (adding in S pen too) with the Z Fold firmware. And add in a micro SD card slot as well.
Until these phones hit the global market however, Samsung won't do anything about this.
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the crease is there to get waterprotection which none of the chinese phones have, I rather have that than not, do you really think Samsung can't make a phone with non visible crease?

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the crease is there to get waterprotection which none of the chinese phones have, I rather have that than not, do you really think Samsung can't make a phone with non visible crease?
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I'm with you. Give me the water resistance. The crease is a non-issue for me. I really only notice it every once in a while.

Is prefer the lesser crease. I don't tend to swim with my phone & both the Oppo Find N and Vivo X Fold both work fine as long as I don't dunk them in water. The lesser crease helps if writing on the screen with a pen which I do a lot...

spotmark said:
I love all the real estate, and being able to fold it up and throw it in my pocket is icing on the cake.
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For real! me too.