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Titanium bumper for Xperia arc (looks sleek and no drop worries)

this japanese site has the best quality accessories for Xperia in general
i have recently ordered this bumper for my Arc and i am pleased with it. looks sleek,sexy,unique and i have gotten great compliments when people saw it. also it has a high quality feel to its hold. it comes in 6 colors
the price is high but try working your charm with the sellers.
note 1) i have no bonds with the sellers so dont ask me for help
note 2) if you order , go easy on the screws and no need for muscles or else you will mess up the screws and have to customize your own or order them from the ebay seller for 10 dollars
this bumper keeps the back and front revealed and maintains the curve of the arc.
whether you think its nice or ugly, believe me you would rather put this on the phone than seeing scratches and chips on your phone.
im only giving my opinion and everyone has their own
here are some pics for my order
http://global.rakuten.com/en/
rakuten seller ([email protected]) hirochi shop
ebay seller
http://myworld.ebay.com/gilddesign/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S8xPC2YfSsw#!
http://translate.google.com/transla...gild+design&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=706&prmd=imvns

This is really nice. I think it is the best in market I have seen.
Thanks for sharing...

its good quality and its durable..
however phone got bigger
still thinking about it
search from the net and found this..
http://www.gilddesign.com/shop/20.html

Looks ridiculous imo and not sure it can be classed as sleek given how much extra it adds to the phone.

XperienceD said:
Looks ridiculous imo and not sure it can be classed as sleek given how much extra it adds to the phone.
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i respect your opinion but,
some people drop their phones many times during the day; in a few weeks the phone will look ridiculous with all the scratches and maybe even cracks which will make a person hate their phone and cant afford to change.
so this would be sleek in a way for the protection you get.
it does add a little more weight and a little width only on the edgesbut still i get a decent grip on it.
the otter box is not that attractive(people just got used to seeing them) and it adds so much weight and bulkyness to phones, yet most iphone users use them for protection.

i know it will not be sold here locally
if i can see it and try it on my unit ill probably take the black one
silver arc and silver bumper makes it more bigger

elnitrox said:
i know it will not be sold here locally
if i can see it and try it on my unit ill probably take the black one
silver arc and silver bumper makes it more bigger
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black on black would look pretty decent i agree

Ooohh yes i would like one of those

I agree, its ridiculous and beautiful. it works for many people and its very nice.

XperienceD said:
Looks ridiculous imo and not sure it can be classed as sleek given how much extra it adds to the phone.
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Have to agree, looks a bit over the top and hides the sleek look of the phone
Could be a bit like Marmite this one, but I'll be sticking with my leather case for now

alsaqr said:
some people drop their phones many times during the day
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I can count on one hand how many times I've dropped mine, so I guess if people are ridiculously clumsy this would be perfect for them.
l3mm said:
Have to agree, looks a bit over the top and hides the sleek look of the phone
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This is why I don't have any case on mine at all, I just double up on the screen protector and that does me.

XperienceD said:
Looks ridiculous imo and not sure it can be classed as sleek given how much extra it adds to the phone.
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Yeah I think it looks ugly. I wish there were some bumper case like the iPhone.

With that u can drop your phone all the time on the floor

I just have a normal rubberised case and 2 screen protectors on and that works perfectly fine, and my case only adds a few millimetres not a few centimetres
Sent from my LT15i using xda premium

looks wicked....
ouch...the price....

This seems a little excessive, although no doubt will make the phone pretty much indestructible.
But.......how many people here bought the Arc because of how it looks? I did - I would have gone for another HTC (way back from the wizard - that long!) if I wanted best performance etc.
This just completely destroys the look of the phone IMO

Just bought one of these from Japan via Ebay:
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Phone on right is friends (like you`d never guess )
WARNING:
I was charged an extra £31.12 (Customs/Import TAX) to have it enter/delivered to UK
apparently the law was changed on the 1st of november for incomming inports to UK that are over £15, i was not aware of this
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Still love it though

rmk152 said:
Just bought one of these from Japan via Ebay:
Phone on right is friends (like you`d never guess )
WARNING:
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Still love it though
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nice
enjoy not worrying about damage looool

I guess I must say that I'm not a fan of the case. Totally destroys the looks of the phone. Plus I would hate to hold that next to my ear and talk.
Oh well, different strokes for different folks.

my GOD!! it's so ugly that makes me wanna throw up!!! :[email protected]

severe overheating on Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4

How true can this be, just read an article that Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 overheating results in back cover damage. Anyone experiencing severe overheating on the SGTS? http://blog.gsmarena.com/case-samsung-galaxy-tab-s-8-4-overheating-results-back-cover-damage/

I just read that too from Android Authority. They don't know if they'll be a recall issue in the coming weeks.
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It would be horrible if Samsung didn't test for this. It could have have catastrophic repercussions. To both the consumer and Samsungs reputation and wallet.

My 10.5 became slightly warm once. Looks like a bad battery to me.

I've noticed a lot of heat in my 8.4, in the top right corner on the back. It was on full brightness in blazing sun (on a 100 degree day). It got so hot it was uncomfortable to hold.

Mine gets quite warm, but not to the point of being uncomfortable to hold. Just makes my hands a bit more sweaty in this summer heat.
Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk

simacca said:
Mine gets quite warm, but not to the point of being uncomfortable to hold. Just makes my hands a bit more sweaty in this summer heat.
Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk
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I remember the original Surface Pro. You could fry and egg on that one.
One benefit of the book cover - you don't feel the warmth.

sparhawk6 said:
I've noticed a lot of heat in my 8.4, in the top right corner on the back. It was on full brightness in blazing sun (on a 100 degree day). It got so hot it was uncomfortable to hold.
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are you being sarcastic? lol because no duh it's going to be hot as well in 100+ degree weather, at 100% brightness. my galaxy S4 did the same damn thing when i was outside in the summer taking pics; that thing would get HOT. that's just samsungs M/O.
anyway, i've been using it a lot daily and haven't noticed it heating up anymore than a usual tablet would.

mitchellvii said:
I remember the original Surface Pro. You could fry and egg on that one.
One benefit of the book cover - you don't feel the warmth.
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Not really a tablet gamer, but thought I would try asphalt 8 and see how hot it gets. It does get pretty warm across the middle of the tab although it does cool down pretty quickly afterwards. I would like to know what conditions the owner put his tab through to make the back cover warp like that. Would hate to think this could happen to me in the future.
Hurry up and make the book covers widely available over here in the UK! !
Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk

You want to know hot? The Asus TF701 got hot as hell. You couldn't keep your fingers on it. Although it was all metal. This device didn't come nowhere close to that.

Has anyone tried any of the battery saver modes to see if the tablet runs cooler?

The price you guys have to pay for being an early adopter lol.
I'll just wait and see and then decide.
This is option to delay in investment is worth $$$, in finance, this is called ROV (Real Option Valuation). If you studied option devirative, it is similar to an American call option.

simacca said:
Not really a tablet gamer, but thought I would try asphalt 8 and see how hot it gets. It does get pretty warm across the middle of the tab although it does cool down pretty quickly afterwards. I would like to know what conditions the owner put his tab through to make the back cover warp like that. Would hate to think this could happen to me in the future.
Hurry up and make the book covers widely available over here in the UK! !
Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk
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I looked for the Book Cover for 8.4 all over the place but no luck. So I thought of one place where no one would expect to find one. Harrods. Got the bronze cover for my bronze S 8.4
Buttoning the covers onto the back of the tablet was rather scary, had to press pretty hard for the buttons to click in.
The back of the tablet must not be made of quality plastic if it warps like that

kuromusha38 said:
The price you guys have to pay for being an early adopter lol.
I'll just wait and see and then decide.
This is option to delay in investment is worth $$$, in finance, this is called ROV (Real Option Valuation). If you studied option devirative, it is similar to an American call option.
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These overheating Tab S models are about as pervasive as exploding iPhones - i.e., not very. As far as being early adopters, at the pace technology is moving pretty much every new model of anything has an early adopter flavor to it.
Waiting to buy a tablet until the technology has matured is like buying call options? I've traded call options for 15 years. Don't see the parallel. With a call option you are paying a premium to have the right to buy an underlying stock at a set value by a set future date. As time goes by the time value of that option wastes and becomes less valuable unless the intrinsic value tied to the underlying stock has increased significantly. If the underlying value of the stock does not exceed the strike price of the option by its expiration date it expires worthless. Since you are merely waiting to buy the tablet and not buying a contract to purchase at a set future price and date you have no financial risk and therefore no derivative.
Not trying to be argumentative. Just don't see the analogy

isnt this just one incident? has any other people in this community seen that though?
it would be wise to check demo units too before you buy them check if there dents like that.

avenging said:
isnt this just one incident? has any other people in this community seen that though?
it would be wise to check demo units too before you buy them check if there dents like that.
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I'm guessing it was a faulty unit. Thinking more about it, aren't these tablets and phones supposed to have some sort of temperature gauge limit built in if they get too hot?
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Could be an apple fanboy trying to ruin the reputation of our fine kit.

read the full article already. It's a model with an Exyno 5 Octa 5420. and the Russian played 3D games.
Can anyone having the Exyno model test it out?
I haven't got my Tab S, but really love to have one.
This really worries me. From the surface reflection, it looks like Tab S's back cover is a little uneven, thinner than the S5.

My previous tablet was a note 8.0. It was getting warm to the point that it was uncomfortable. Dont have that problem with te tab s 8.4, it stays a lot cooler

abnoob said:
read the full article already. It's a model with an Exyno 5 Octa 5420. and the Russian played 3D games.
Can anyone having the Exyno model test it out?
I haven't got my Tab S, but really love to have one.
This really worries me. From the surface reflection, it looks like Tab S's back cover is a little uneven, thinner than the S5.
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The back cover on my 10.5 is perfectly smooth and feels solid, not overly thin. There is nothing cheap feeling about this tablet. Not being an Apple sycophant, I'm not obsessed with an aluminum back. Have felt a bit of warmth on the back but nothing significant. This serious overheating seems to be an isolated incident.

I'd like to see some custom manufacturer come up with afermarket aluminum replaceable backs for tablets. That would take care of efficient heatsinking, rigidize the unit, look nice, and be rid of cheap plastic.
Part of the reason I like my Gpad so much!
Rich

[SKIN] Dband supports the Huawei P9

Hey folks,
good news for people loving skins on their phone, especially from Dbrand.
They now have the device listed and can be ordered already
https://dbrand.com/shop/huawei-p9-skins
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Thanks! I thought they weren't gonna make a skin, but I am glad you posted this.

Thank you for the info. I'm looking for skins for P9 Plus

ladxxdal said:
Hey folks,
good news for people loving skins on their phone, especially from Dbrand.
They now have the device listed and can be ordered already
https://dbrand.com/shop/huawei-p9-skins
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Had anyone actually purchased a skin yet? How do they help with the slipperiness of the phone? I'm thinking of getting the copper back and titanium black for the front.

It is amazing and interesting... Is using the skin is user friendly or do we have to do tearing job..

smohanv said:
It is amazing and interesting... Is using the skin is user friendly or do we have to do tearing job..
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D brand skins are cut perfectly to size - should be very simple to install. I have used them on previous phones.

Mine was shipped last night so I'll update my results once it arrives. Unfortunately, shipping take up to 15 days

telsims said:
Mine was shipped last night so I'll update my results once it arrives. Unfortunately, shipping take up to 15 days
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could you also show some pictures was you have installed it please, thanks

aceclift said:
could you also show some pictures was you have installed it please, thanks
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I certainly will

Well after a wait of just over 2 weeks from order to delivery I can say that it was well worth the wait.
Phone has a bit more grip now and can finally ditch the horrible plastic thing I've been using.
Application was a doddle and I'm a fussy one. Probably took 10 mins but I did spend another 10 mins smoothing the edges
Let me know if you want any more info.
Tel

That look awesome!! Thanks for sharing, I think I'll buy some

I work in car workshop and sometimes we stick those carbon-like stickers on car parts, and sometimes I use it to cover other things like laptop cover or speakers so after I got P9 it was a matter of time to use it on it...
I actually did that with my previous Xperias phones, but with P9 this is more tricky to use those stickers because it have rounded edges.
Here is my first test on how it would look on my phone:
As you can see I skipped upper part of phone, because i didnt had in home scalpel that is needed to cut such small parts. Also its first test, so edges aren't perfect.
Later I will get scalpel from work and I will try to cut it properly.
As for actual materials, we use those cheap stickers that you can buy in packs of 1x3m, they cost less than 5 Euro. Rest it standard: hair dryer, scalpel or any precision knife and ruler. That first try took me about 15 min to cut and apply.
So overall I think its better to try it by yourself before spending 10Euro on it. And even if it will not work, you still could stick it on any other device in your home

Wow, that's really slick looking!
Did you put any on the front bezels ?

Nope, I hate putting anything in front of the phone, its look weird and "cheap" and because you swipe your fingers all the time near edges its give that really annoying feel of "its gonna fell off".
I also get new idea how to make it to fit perfectly on back of the phone. I just make precise template on my computer, and then just print it on back of the sticker, and cut it with scalpel. I totally forgot that my printer support any paper, so it dont care if its not perfect A4 format -_-

Nice, looks good.
How easy do you think it will be to remove in case you sell the phone?
I never had skins on my devices before.

damn hard, it could take you almost 5 second to peel it off :]
EDIT: Here is latest try, this time with upper part near camera.
After whole day of testing I can say that its damn good looking and it really hard to accidentally peel it off, even on that small part that have less than 3mm.

Thanks for sharing! sweet pics! of course now im thinking about selling my P9 and upgrading to the P9 plus which means no DBrands for me sadly

I would rather wait for P10 that will be on market somewhere April-June(release should be March April but we can say that it hit global market month later).
I got my P9 last December, but as I said, all that moding and "more poweeer!" stuff is behind me and I just wanted good looking and good working phone, and P9 give me all that. Actually comparing to any other phone on market even mid-end ones.... they all the same in everyday usage, I was testing galaxy s7 for 3 days before getting P9 and.... nothings special, screen is better and VR(that I use and create content for it) is better, but beside that its all the same.
Today its a matter of picking phone based on look and screen size/res, rest work the same honestly, even camera that quality more depend on person who take pic rather than camera it self.
And I think Dband WILL be supporting P10, maybe not instantly but month or two later and it should be there, after all P series, especially P8 lite and P9 lite are really popular so bigger brothers should get all of that fancy addons from other companies like Dband.

Mitch thanks ty guy, I searched for some nice skins for a long time until I gave it up. Now I read this thread and I'm flashed by the website!

XtemeSkins have quite a lot of skin models. I bought a matt skin and its perfectly flush and fit my p9 . You should try it out.

Have a Chance at Getting an S. Need Help Deciding.

Okay so recently I found myself with the chance to get my hands on a Tab S.
It's used, but only as a kiosk application. Everything surface wise is in perfect condition except for some slight screen burning, but that is barely noticeable, and it seems to work just find.
But I recently saw someone say to avoid display models as they tend to have weak battery life due to being on charger all day.
But I'm not sure if ones used as kiosk applications and display models are the same.
So I just figured I'd ask, should I take the chance and get this tablet? I really want an S, and this is the best chance I've found.

ElsaReyes said:
Okay so recently I found myself with the chance to get my hands on a Tab S.
It's used, but only as a kiosk application. Everything surface wise is in perfect condition except for some slight screen burning, but that is barely noticeable, and it seems to work just find.
But I recently saw someone say to avoid display models as they tend to have weak battery life due to being on charger all day.
But I'm not sure if ones used as kiosk applications and display models are the same.
So I just figured I'd ask, should I take the chance and get this tablet? I really want an S, and this is the best chance I've found.
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I'm thinking it better be pretty cheap, like about 100.00 or less. It might cost about 60.00 or so to have a shop replace the battery. They can be had on ebay for <20.00 and there are videos on youtube to show you haow to open it and change the battery. It is pretty much EOL for this model...don't think that that's official but it's got to be very close. Keep that in mind.
But...I'm also wondering if these chargers really do damage the battery being on 24/7. Don't they have protection for over charging and they seem to taper the charge rate as the battery gets closer to 100%. I know I've ruined several laptop batteries by leaving them in and on the charger. Aren't these batteries of a different technology?
Buy it cheap, do a full reset and run it and see how it does for a week..

Okay I just stumbled upon another for the same price. Not a display model this time, still used of course, the only thing wrong is it has a crack just under 1 inch long in the bottom corner of the screen.
Would this impact how well it worked? Like would I be better off getting the display model? Or would this one be perfect and the crack would just be something I'd have to get used to being there?

ElsaReyes said:
Okay I just stumbled upon another for the same price. Not a display model this time, still used of course, the only thing wrong is it has a crack just under 1 inch long in the bottom corner of the screen.
Would this impact how well it worked? Like would I be better off getting the display model? Or would this one be perfect and the crack would just be something I'd have to get used to being there?
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All things equal, I personaly would probably go with the one with the 1" crack. That's according to how prevalent the burn-in is. The burn-in more likely effects a larger portion of the screen.
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Hmm, one last quick question, the screen burn ones are listed at 10.1 inch. Is there a 10.1 inch Tab S or did they just mislabel it? Don't wanna end up with a tablet that isn't even the one I want.
I would rather go with the cracked screen, but I messaged them to see if it works, and they responded with it seems to, which isn't that clear. I asked for clarification and they haven't responded yet.

there is tab A 10.1 tab S is 10.5inch

Ignored the two I spoke of and jumped on another that the best one availible on the site. Wasn't sure I'd get it as it was bidding and not buy now, and I've never won anything in my life. But I just did it ten minutes ago, cost 240 but I got it.
Oh and it's not just the tablet. It also comes in box, with the charger, usb cable, manual, a samsung smart cover case. And most important of all, an official Samsung Tab S Keyboard attachment, which considering I'm an author, or want to be one, it'll come in real handy.
Here's a pic of my spoils of war.
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Oh, and unlike the other two I'd looked at, this one is 32gb's not 16.

I like success stories! Congrats, hope it works well for you! Looks nice and a decent deal I think.
BTW, I'm not sure...but I think BestBuy was the only one, or one of few, places that sold 32GB versions.

Thank you! It was a real close one. I had bid 250 which didn't change or the final six hours, but I couldn't help but feel a little gittery, been watching all this time, no way was I losing this. So in the last minute, I upped my max bid to 275, and when the auction ended it turned out someone had bid 256, but because of my raise I won for 260. It's just crazy to think how if I hadn't raised it then I would of lost.
And 32GB being rare makes alot of sense. There are very few on ebay, and the cheapest at the time was 269. And all it came with was a generic usb cable, not even the official samsung usb cable.

Wish I could tell everyone how my new tablet is, but the stupid thing isn't here yet. Spent 17 dollars on Priority Mail shipping and it's only moved one state over from where it started in the past 6 days. Priority mail my ass.

General Just How Awesome Is This Thing? (First Impressions)

I've been modding phones since the OG Razr days, and even though I don't do a whole lot anymore, I still consider phones a hobby. I was going to wait for the Fold5 or the Google Fold, but after doing a buttload of research (my normal M.O.), I decided that the Fold4 was ready for prime time. Throw in the fantastic trade-in deals and it was hard to say, no. As I told my wife, I haven't been this excited about a phone in a long time. I have to say, I'm impressed. Haven't had it quite twenty-four hours yet, but it's blowing me away. Obviously, the Samsung screens look beautiful. Sure, the outer screen is narrow, but not unusable. Especially if you swipe type. The inner screen? Well, that's what it's all about, isn't it? It's gorgeous, I love all the real estate, and being able to fold it up and throw it in my pocket is icing on the cake. I plan on reading more, and using it for GPS/Waze in the car is freakin' awesome! I'm really loving it. My only complaint, so far, is the sideways scrolling in the app drawer. Come on, Samsung! Continuous perpendicular scrolling is much more convenient. Thoughts? How do you folks like yours? Tell us what you like and dislike.

Dude, download GoodLock and you will love it even more.

tengtengvn said:
Dude, download GoodLock and you will love it even more.
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Cool! I stopped rooting with my Pixel 6 Pro. I could ad block without root and with dark mode baked in I was somewhat satisfied, but I did miss Substratum. This is like Substratum without root. Love it! Thanks.

spotmark said:
Cool! I stopped rooting with my Pixel 6 Pro. I could ad block without root and with dark mode baked in I was somewhat satisfied, but I did miss Substratum. This is like Substratum without root. Love it! Thanks.
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you do have HEX installer for Samsung, but atm it does not work on Fold4.
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The fold for is such an impressive phone. I'm sorry that I waited this long to dive into the fold arena. I use the flip 3 and flip 4 but got rid of those phones and this one takes the cake. I don't think I can ever go back to a regular slab phone again.

coming from a note 9, i don't think i'll be able to go back to a slab phone. i've been holding off buying anything and for the longest time my note 9 was my daily driver. if i wanted to upgrade it, it would be something different. i was almost tempted to get the fold 3 but opted to wait until the fold 4 came out. the outer screen being wider than the fold 3 (ok, just a little bit) and the cameras were the clinchers. my wife got me the fold 4 for father's day after she saw me reading/browsing and making numerous trips to jb hifi to inspect the phone on display. the spen is fantastic and the only thing i lost from the note 9's pen is the camera bt remote and the sound it makes when i take out the pen (my son asked me to change the remove and insert to sounds of a light saber). took me a day or so of fiddling around and setting it up to the way i want it to be. it's now the same layout as my note 9 which suits me. i'm still using nova launcher with a klwp preset for the inner screen. outer screen is using just a static, black wallpaper. goodlock has proven to be very useful as the alternative to one ui's taskbar and it's provided me with an easy power off and screenshot buttons. the only shortcoming i've seen so far is sometimes android auto fails to connect with the phone. i know that an update is on the way to fix this but at the moment and easy work around is to clear up the cache from google playstore. other than that, the inner screen real estate is fantastic for browsing, reading books, vids, and all.

Running x2 versions of Cyberpunk on one device whilst also being able to download and extract saved games files from Stadia (try doing that on a system without an oen file management setup).
This thing isn't a phone, its a computer that fits my pocket!!
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Me: Verizon will give me all but $99 back for my Pixel 6 Pro toward a Fold4. I'm going to order one.
Wife: You're getting a new phone? You haven't had that one a year yet.
Guess who's Fold4 is being delivered today. She had her 6 Pro for a shorter time than I had mine.

I'm gettuing annoyed with both the skinny front screen and the crease. I have an Oppo Find N and the crease is almost non-existent, as well as a Vivo X Fold. The outer display on the X Fold is the perfect size, I find the Find N a bit small now (think 2009 size) and the crease is also a hell of a lot better. Both these phones were purchased long before the Z Fold4 and neither crease is getting worse over time.
My perfect foldable would be the X Fold hardware (adding in S pen too) with the Z Fold firmware. And add in a micro SD card slot as well.
Until these phones hit the global market however, Samsung won't do anything about this.

ultramag69 said:
I'm gettuing annoyed with both the skinny front screen and the crease. I have an Oppo Find N and the crease is almost non-existent, as well as a Vivo X Fold. The outer display on the X Fold is the perfect size, I find the Find N a bit small now (think 2009 size) and the crease is also a hell of a lot better. Both these phones were purchased long before the Z Fold4 and neither crease is getting worse over time.
My perfect foldable would be the X Fold hardware (adding in S pen too) with the Z Fold firmware. And add in a micro SD card slot as well.
Until these phones hit the global market however, Samsung won't do anything about this.
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the crease is there to get waterprotection which none of the chinese phones have, I rather have that than not, do you really think Samsung can't make a phone with non visible crease?

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the crease is there to get waterprotection which none of the chinese phones have, I rather have that than not, do you really think Samsung can't make a phone with non visible crease?
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I'm with you. Give me the water resistance. The crease is a non-issue for me. I really only notice it every once in a while.

Is prefer the lesser crease. I don't tend to swim with my phone & both the Oppo Find N and Vivo X Fold both work fine as long as I don't dunk them in water. The lesser crease helps if writing on the screen with a pen which I do a lot...

spotmark said:
I love all the real estate, and being able to fold it up and throw it in my pocket is icing on the cake.
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For real! me too.