USB otg gaming controller on firestick 4k? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a 4k firestick and I never have got my Xbox 360 wired controller to work on otg . It has worked well on previous gens. Has anyone found a solution for fixing this yet, or do you know where I should start looking? I achived root recently, so I can make modifications..
Any help would be much appreciated ? thank you!

Unfortunately, it seems the drivers needed for OTG controllers have been removed or omitted on fireos 6. I don't know how hard or easy it would be to add them back, all I know is that the steam link app is able to use controller as it is using its own drivers, so it may be a good place to start looking at in order to fix this issue.

With some digging it might be something to do with an xpad.ko file. Going to dig around the non 4k stick and see what else I can learn

Volectorus said:
With some digging it might be something to do with an xpad.ko file. Going to dig around the non 4k stick and see what else I can learn
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Yes, kernel must be compiled with xpad enabled.
Edit:I enabled XPAD driver on my custom kernel and my XBOX 360 controller is working (it's the wireless version, connected thru a Microsoft USB Wireless Receiver).

Pretoriano80 said:
Yes, kernel must be compiled with xpad enabled.
Edit:I enabled XPAD driver on my custom kernel and my XBOX 360 controller is working (it's the wireless version, connected thru a Microsoft USB Wireless Receiver).
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Score! Going to try your kernel now!

All set! USB otg works now with no problem on wired with your kernel. The wireless dongle and wired controller use the same device id, from what I learned getting to here. 045e:028e . As well as a host of other knockoffs.
Hopefully there are enough good keywords on this thread for people to find this solution in the future. I'm an amateur, but i have good google-fu. this is the only solution for the 4k that I'm aware of for Xbox 360 controllers to work again.
Much obliged.

Volectorus said:
All set! USB otg works now with no problem on wired with your kernel. The wireless dongle and wired controller use the same device id, from what I learned getting to here. 045e:028e . As well as a host of other knockoffs.
Hopefully there are enough good keywords on this thread for people to find this solution in the future. I'm an amateur, but i have good google-fu. this is the only solution for the 4k that I'm aware of for Xbox 360 controllers to work again.
Much obliged.
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The current release does not have XPAD enabled. I will upload the new version now
Edit: New kernel 6.2.7.1 version uploaded (v2). My XBOX 360 wireless receiver wasn't working without enabling XPAD driver, so kernel 6.2.7.1 v1 was a no go.

Volectorus said:
Score! Going to try your kernel now!
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Pretoriano80 said:
The current release does not have XPAD enabled. I will upload the new version now
Edit: New kernel 6.2.7.1 version uploaded (v2). My XBOX 360 wireless receiver wasn't working without enabling XPAD driver, so kernel 6.2.7.1 v1 was a no go.
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Upon further testing: the knockoff controller I have is working fine after installing v1. The official Xbox 360 controller I have, is not. I'll try v2 now.
(Both have the same device Id oddly enough)
Edit
After a painless update to v2. Official Xbox 360 wired works perfectly ?

Hello!
I have both the Fire TV stick and stick 4K. One of them (must have been the non-4K) was working with 4 dongled XBox clone controllers (all 4 dongles on a 4-port USB hub, which was connected via an OTG-Y-cable to the stick. After I got the 4K, I know realize that none of the controllers is recognized by the 4K stick (but the connection between the 4 dongles and the 4 controllers seems ok, as none of the red dongle lights flashes - just lit permanently - and the blue controller lights the same).
Now I wonder if it could happen that the non-4K stick might also loose this functionality by an update of FireOS (it's not rooted). Can this happen?
What can I do to get the functionality on the 4K stick? This thread here is a bit difficult for me to understand.
Thanks a lot for your help!

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TV tuner

has anyone purchased a micro usb tv tuner for their device?
if so, which and how much was it
also, has anyone been able to try a USB tv tuner via the OTG cable?
Bump. I am also curious about the possibility of connecting a TV tuner via USB OTG. Currently, I crammed a TV tuner in there, but it looks like the tablet doesn't care about that.
Martin-Doc said:
Bump. I am also curious about the possibility of connecting a TV tuner via USB OTG. Currently, I crammed a TV tuner in there, but it looks like the tablet doesn't care about that.
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hey martin, what tuner have you got and how much did it cost you??
It is Evolve Mars, and 2 years ago it cost me about 20€. It is a basic TV tuner but it served and still serves its purpose - occasionally watching TV on a college dorm.
I think you need to be rooted to use droidtv and then recompile the modules for the kernal version.
I only found ones for 3.0.8+ & 3.1.10 kernals.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841759

Which Emulators with Controller?

For Mame Which is the best that works with firetv? Is this a good one? MAME4droid(0139)-1.6.1-MULTI.apk. Any other recommendations?
Also is there one for Sega Master System? brings up memories from the old days. :fingers-crossed:
navigates said:
For Mame Which is the best that works with firetv? Is this a good one? MAME4droid(0139)-1.6.1-MULTI.apk. Any other recommendations?
Also is there one for Sega Master System? brings up memories from the old days. :fingers-crossed:
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RetroArch has been pretty good so far, although I experience issues with key mapping
ThatsMajor said:
RetroArch has been pretty good so far, although I experience issues with key mapping
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I returned the controller I purchased from amazon as the controller wasn't smooth with mame. Can I use icade?
I'll give the retro arch a shot. thanks for the reply.
I use a Bluetooth Red Samurai gaming controller i picked up from GameStop for $15 for all Android games and Android emulator. No problem and in the back of the controller you have the option of switching from Keypad to Game pad mode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716838
I've been using the Ouya controller so far. Works really well and has the added bonus of being a mouse when needed.
WisdomWolf said:
I've been using the Ouya controller so far. Works really well and has the added bonus of being a mouse when needed.
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I can't seem to pair the icade bluetooth controller to firetv at all. when bluetooth is in pairing mode, firetv does not see the controller.
navigates said:
I can't seem to pair the icade bluetooth controller to firetv at all. when bluetooth is in pairing mode, firetv does not see the controller.
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probably different bluetooth versions?
navigates said:
I can't seem to pair the icade bluetooth controller to firetv at all. when bluetooth is in pairing mode, firetv does not see the controller.
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If you are rooted, try installing the stock 4.2 settings.apk and pairing from the bluetooth category there. That's what I had to do to get my bluetooth keyboard to pair.
Where is that 4.2 settings apk at?
I am tired of being stuck with the old 4.0 version apk.
WisdomWolf said:
If you are rooted, try installing the stock 4.2 settings.apk and pairing from the bluetooth category there. That's what I had to do to get my bluetooth keyboard to pair.
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I would very much like to know where i can find this stock 4.2 settings.apk? And why the firetv needs to be rooted? (Mine is btw)
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I've repurchased the amazon's controller and it works very well. I'm glad I got the controller that works. RetroArc works very well as well. Back to my old days of wonder boy
navigates said:
I've repurchased the amazon's controller and it works very well. I'm glad I got the controller that works. RetroArc works very well as well. Back to my old days of wonder boy
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Did you have to do anything special to get your FTV controller to work with Retroarch? I've had no luck whatsoever.
Two Controllers?
Has anyone been able to get two controllers connector for two player games? Would love to be able to play some old school ROMs with my son.
martian21 said:
Has anyone been able to get two controllers connector for two player games? Would love to be able to play some old school ROMs with my son.
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Yes Retroarch version with mame 2014 rom and two firetv amazon original controller works well. I made a custom build and signed the apk with one click signer. here is the link. I've tested it with double dragon.. I couldn't get two players to work with the official mame4droid.
Works very smooth except when too much screen draw happens. I hope they made a quad core retroarch version. its so close. what game are you looking to play?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzSAltRGg2Raa0lIR193eTV3TEk/view?usp=sharing
navigates said:
Yes Retroarch version with mame 2014 rom and two firetv amazon original controller works well. I made a custom build and signed the apk with one click signer. here is the link. I've tested it with double dragon.. I couldn't get two players to work with the official mame4droid.
Works very smooth except when too much screen draw happens. I hope they made a quad core retroarch version. its so close. what game are you looking to play?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzSAltRGg2Raa0lIR193eTV3TEk/view?usp=sharing
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Thanks! I don't have any controllers yet but was thinking of picking up a couple so I could re-live my NES glory days. Would be great to be able to multiplayer. Contra comes to mind.
Yeah thats nice. Contra surely was a nice one. I can't think of any two players. I'll get contra tonight and give it a try. any other suggestions?
My old ones are sega master system with transbot and captain silver. with pico. works very well except the stick dose not work and have to use the arrow keys.
Retroarch doesnt seem to work on the Fire TV Stick. Creashes when loading anything or going into settings. Anyone care to confirm?
Which version?
The 1.0.0.2 version works fine,but the later builds still have botched control mapping and some cores refuse to work.
If you have root and know what you are doing,you can install the latest version of retroarch and copy the cores and get back 1.0.0.2 to paste them into it for access to things like Yabause.
retroben said:
Which version?
The 1.0.0.2 version works fine,but the later builds still have botched control mapping and some cores refuse to work.
If you have root and know what you are doing,you can install the latest version of retroarch and copy the cores and get back 1.0.0.2 to paste them into it for access to things like Yabause.
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Pretty much no one has root on the Fire Tv Stick. I tried version "RetroArch-armv7-v1.0.0.2-r34.apk".

Best controller for emulators AND android games?

Can someone recommend me a controller that has good compatibility for both emulators and android games themselves? I'd like something that easily works. I'm noticing some posts around the internet where people aren't having issues with emulators, but are having issues with android games, or the exact opposite. I have a rooted fire tv in case that is needed for some controller compatibility apk.
lolwatpear said:
Can someone recommend me a controller that has good compatibility for both emulators and android games themselves? I'd like something that easily works. I'm noticing some posts around the internet where people aren't having issues with emulators, but are having issues with android games, or the exact opposite. I have a rooted fire tv in case that is needed for some controller compatibility apk.
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I bought the Amazon Fire TV Game Controller, works with anything that supports gamepads. I have a PS3 & Xbox 360 controllers that worked good on somethings and sucked on others. So i've been really happy with the Amazon Game Controller.
I got the Ouya controller. It works well and functions as a mouse as well.
The Amazon controller has worked for me with:
NES
Genesis
SNES
DC
PS 1
I can not get it to figure out N64 commands, and this is an emulator problem. I may have to connect a mouse to map to the controller. If anyone has figured out N64 on Fire TV, please post
Anyone tried the Wiimote?
xm41907 said:
I got the Ouya controller. It works well and functions as a mouse as well.
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Doesn't work with Minecraft Pocket Edition. Or did you get it to work ?
WPeterW said:
Doesn't work with Minecraft Pocket Edition. Or did you get it to work ?
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Which version are you using? I have the Google Play version sideloaded. I would like to get the Fire TV version as it works with the remote, but since I only have the stick, I can't purchase and download it.
Neo3D said:
Anyone tried the Wiimote?
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I'm curious also if anyone uses a wiimote for any emulators/amazon games. Does the classic controller extension work with it? Does it even work in the emulators at all?
I want to get a controller for my FTV but I have so many around my house I don't want another one, so if I can find one that works with what I want to do I'd rather just use it
Also anyone tried using PS3 controller, does it even work?
I've heard it mentioned that it was possible but no instructions- does anyone know if a wireless Xbox 360 can be paired to the FIre TV, and if so, how? Note- I'm asking about the wireless being paired directly via bluetooth- NOT using a USB dongle or adapter.
BirdOPrey5 said:
I've heard it mentioned that it was possible but no instructions- does anyone know if a wireless Xbox 360 can be paired to the FIre TV, and if so, how? Note- I'm asking about the wireless being paired directly via bluetooth- NOT using a USB dongle or adapter.
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Unless there has been some recent development on that, its not possible without the dongle sorry
BirdOPrey5 said:
I've heard it mentioned that it was possible but no instructions- does anyone know if a wireless Xbox 360 can be paired to the FIre TV, and if so, how? Note- I'm asking about the wireless being paired directly via bluetooth- NOT using a USB dongle or adapter.
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No. Xbox controllers use a proprietary wireless standard, not straight Bluetooth. It can only be paired with the adapter.
WPeterW said:
Doesn't work with Minecraft Pocket Edition. Or did you get it to work ?
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I updated my Minecraft version and the Ouya controller works well with it.
xm41907 said:
I updated my Minecraft version and the Ouya controller works well with it.
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Nice ! What version are you using ? ps: the touchpad works but I can't use the buttons/stick.
Skater4599 said:
I'm curious also if anyone uses a wiimote for any emulators/amazon games. Does the classic controller extension work with it? Does it even work in the emulators at all?
I want to get a controller for my FTV but I have so many around my house I don't want another one, so if I can find one that works with what I want to do I'd rather just use it
Also anyone tried using PS3 controller, does it even work?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/n64-games-wiimote-root-t3006978
WPeterW said:
Nice ! What version are you using ? ps: the touchpad works but I can't use the buttons/stick.
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Here is the version/filename. com.mojang.minecraftpe_0.9.5_600905000

[Q] games controllers for unrooted

What are the best game controller to work with an un-rooted AFTV?
With the new update I'm using my wired Xbox 360 controller plugged into a hub. It works great with KOTOR and Tales from the Borderlands.
Red samurai from GameStop
The official fire tv controller is actually pretty good. Dualshock 4 is great, but the battery only lasts a few hours.
Jsuh0 said:
Red samurai from GameStop
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Thanks everyone. Jsuh0 - just to confirm - does the Red Samurai work without root with the standard keymap?
Has anyone managed to bluetooth pair a DS4?
garethkelly said:
Has anyone managed to bluetooth pair a DS4?
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I read over on http://www.aftvnews.com/alternate-game-controllers-compatible-with-the-fire-tv/ (fifth of sixth comment down) that you need root to edit the keymap for it to work properly.
+1 red samurai works great. And is cheap like $7
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What are the best game controller to work with an un-rooted AFTV?
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This one works great for me.
http://www.amazon.com/PlayPad-Pro-Amazon-Fire-TV/dp/B00J9P3KBS/ref=dp_ob_title_vg
you can also use your xbox 360 wireless controller with the official wireless controller receiver.
worked on my AFT out of the box. just plug in the receiver and it works.
digery said:
I read over on http://www.aftvnews.com/alternate-game-controllers-compatible-with-the-fire-tv/ (fifth of sixth comment down) that you need root to edit the keymap for it to work properly.
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Amazon fixed the keymap with lastest fire tv update. So it doesnt need to be edited.
Aobeta said:
Amazon fixed the keymap with lastest fire tv update. So it doesnt need to be edited.
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So there are no other issues with using the DS4 on the Fire TV now?
tech3475 said:
So there are no other issues with using the DS4 on the Fire TV now?
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I don't think so. The only thing that sucks is the battery life is so bad, and there is no indicator if it is running low, so it could just die on you in the middle of a game. Besides that, it's the best possible controller you can use in my opinion. I have not used it on an unrooted ftv though, but it shouldn't make any difference.
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I don't think so. The only thing that sucks is the battery life is so bad, and there is no indicator if it is running low, so it could just die on you in the middle of a game. Besides that, it's the best possible controller you can use in my opinion. I have not used it on an unrooted ftv though, but it shouldn't make any difference.
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Does this also go for the PS3 DS3 controller?
@octra,
Damn that is awesome news! What would be the button layout when using a 360 controller on an AFTV? Does the X button act as the Home button?
digery said:
Does this also go for the PS3 DS3 controller?
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No, DS3 doesn't work without root. You need an app called "sixaxis controller" to use it.
is there something that can be used as an all-in-one device..gamepad, mouse,& keyboared. dont want to have to buy several pieces of hardware to use with this fire tv stick. something like the sony google tv remote . I have one of those but the stick wont recognize it , even with settings.apk
Thanks for the info. I take it sisaxis is a root only app?
gvc803 said:
is there something that can be used as an all-in-one device..gamepad, mouse,& keyboared. dont want to have to buy several pieces of hardware to use with this fire tv stick. something like the sony google tv remote . I have one of those but the stick wont recognize it , even with settings.apk
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I was thinking about the rii i28 game pad/air mouse/keyboard (it is backlit!) with mic:
http://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Mouse-Keyboard-Laptop/dp/B00FJ09I5O
eastbayarb said:
I was thinking about the rii i28 game pad/air mouse/keyboard (it is backlit!) with mic:
http://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Mouse-Keyboard-Laptop/dp/B00FJ09I5O
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dont think that is bluetooth. might have a usb dongle to be able to use which makes it impossible to use with the fire stick

Shield ATV Accessories

Did you guys get any of the new accessories? The remote or the stand? What do you think? Both are pretty pricey...
dunemessiah said:
Did you guys get any of the new accessories? The remote or the stand? What do you think? Both are pretty pricey...
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I got the remote, it's on the thin side. Nice for private listening mode, but I'm not so sure it was worth the money, the controller and AndroidTV apps are handier.
Yeah I got the remote. I really like it, but wish it had just one more button - for getting "context" option in kodi. Would have saved the $50 if I'd bothered to read up on it properly before purchasing
Remote here as well, pricey but nice. My Panansonic Vera tv remote works as well, has the directional buttons, just no voice search.
It would be great if I can reuse the remote from my Sony Nsz-gs7 with this thing.
aznmode said:
It would be great if I can reuse the remote from my Sony Nsz-gs7 with this thing.
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Wow ! It's great :angel:
Thank you sooooooo much.
So am I understanding the Sony Nsz-gs7 works fine as a remote? Does the trackpad work? I would guess not, unfortunately.
Yes, I got remote but other accessories are not available here.
Thinking about getting the shield but not too crazy about the $50 remote nor do i like using a game pad for tv. Can anyone suggest a good third party remote that will pair? I got some research to do (not even sure if it bt or wifi). I dont suppose fire tv remote would work? Or any of the several set top box ones i have lying around collecting dust...
If your TV does CEC over HDMI then you can just use that. Most TVs do support this. Works well with my Samsung Smart UHDTV (UN60JU6500), has forward/back/play/pause/arrow keys.
I got the remote in a bundle for around $325us. I am very happy I chose this bundle. The remote is awesome.
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I got Samsung SE-506 external dvd/bluray drive (supports AV mode) and it connects to the shield and plays dvds just fine - I love this device!
I hope that kodi or any other apps will some day be able to play back blurays same way as they do playback dvds right now. A man can dream
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So am I understanding the Sony Nsz-gs7 works fine as a remote? Does the trackpad work? I would guess not, unfortunately.
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Pretty much as a direction remote and keyboard. Can't get mic or track pad working. [emoji22]
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i like the look of the remote, but also not too crazy about the price either, im currently using mine paired up with my logitech harmony touch.. and have a minix neo a2 air mouse plugged in too for use with certain apps.
learning above that theirs no button for context menu within kodi ill 100% be giving it a miss,
has anybody tried a fire tv remote?
What about the FLIRC universal IR receiver? You just have to configure it in a PC and should work with any remote. I use it with an Harmony remote but on a Windows PC not sure how it will work on android.
sectune said:
I got Samsung SE-506 external dvd/bluray drive (supports AV mode) and it connects to the shield and plays dvds just fine - I love this device!
I hope that kodi or any other apps will some day be able to play back blurays same way as they do playback dvds right now. A man can dream
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Does it need some modification to work,or it is just plug and play?
Camera support on shield ATV
You can also plug a USB camera on the shield and for instance start using a video calling application uniquely available for the Shield ATV. I am not aware of any other set-top-box or Android SmartTV that has camera support.
There is only one video calling app on google play that works perfectly on the Shield ATV called "Tellybean - Easy video calling".
KLit75 said:
Thinking about getting the shield but not too crazy about the $50 remote nor do i like using a game pad for tv. Can anyone suggest a good third party remote that will pair? I got some research to do (not even sure if it bt or wifi). I dont suppose fire tv remote would work? Or any of the several set top box ones i have lying around collecting dust...
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Late reply, but FYI there is also an Android app to use any smartphone/tablet as remote. And voice search is then included :good: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.tv.remote
Or you can use any universal IR remote...
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Grippen50 said:
What about the FLIRC universal IR receiver? You just have to configure it in a PC and should work with any remote. I use it with an Harmony remote but on a Windows PC not sure how it will work on android.
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There is also this :https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1635386542/anymote-home-your-phone-the-ultimate-universal-rem
Connect Samsung SE-506 external dvd/bluray drive to nvidia shield TV
sectune said:
I got Samsung SE-506 external dvd/bluray drive (supports AV mode) and it connects to the shield and plays dvds just fine - I love this device!
I hope that kodi or any other apps will some day be able to play back blurays same way as they do playback dvds right now. A man can dream
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Hi Sectune,
how did you do that? I'm really frustrated, because nearly nothing happend when i tried it.
Only the blue light of the drive flashs every approx. 5 seconds. The drive didn't spin up. I even can't open the drive when it's connected to the shield. Annoying.
So I'm really interested in how you managed it to work.
is there a better controller out there that's 100% compatible? The standard Shield controller is rubbish, IMO.

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