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Mi Max 3 in USA

Curious to see some comments from anyone with Mi Max 3 on T-Mobile or AT&T - are you able to get a stable LTE connection? Overlapping bands are only B4 and B5, so it may not work well everywhere in US. Some speed test results and general comments on LTE connection would be appreciated.

I am still awaiting my unit to show up, its been "in transit" for 2 weeks now. I have AT&T and am also curious about this.
I have used many overseas phones in the past and even without LTE I never really had any issues with speed. HSPA+ always seemed to get the job done fine.

LTE in USA
There's another thread on the board where a fellow in NJ is using the Mi Max 3 on T-Mobile and keeping Band 4 LTE almost all the time. I'm on T-Mobile as well and I'm seriously considering the device.
I am curious, though, if the Global version will have support for additional bands?

I got this phone last week and am on Tmobile. I'm getting 50mbps down with no drops yet. I love it. The only problem I had at first was with calling, but after enabling voLTE by typing *#*#86583#*#* into the dialer, problem solved.

I'm on Cricket and pulling stable LTE constantly, though I haven't left town with it yet. Probably Band 4, but 20 is also a possibility.

h20 wireless with uses ATT network shows 4g not LTE However Tmobile shows LTE

misterk267 said:
I'm on Cricket and pulling stable LTE constantly, though I haven't left town with it yet. Probably Band 4, but 20 is also a possibility.
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Install LTE Discovery from play store - it will show you the bands you're connecting to, signal strength, towers in your area and a bunch of other useful stuff

Apo11on said:
Curious to see some comments from anyone with Mi Max 3 on T-Mobile or AT&T - are you able to get a stable LTE connection? Overlapping bands are only B4 and B5, so it may not work well everywhere in US. Some speed test results and general comments on LTE connection would be appreciated.
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minutes should be arriving in a few days. I'm Houston with T-Mobile service so I'll let you know .

mtonne said:
There's another thread on the board where a fellow in NJ is using the Mi Max 3 on T-Mobile and keeping Band 4 LTE almost all the time. I'm on T-Mobile as well and I'm seriously considering the device.
I am curious, though, if the Global version will have support for additional bands?
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Which Global version do you speak of? If you're referring to Max 3 Global ROM, which some stores pre-install - that ROM has no impact on availability of additional LTE bands.

My black 6gb/128gb arrives today from TradingShenzhen to me in UK. I have an EE UK sim in slot 1 and AT&T US sim in slot 2. I won't be able to do the best tests since I'm obviously in UK currently, but at least you'll know whether you're covered internationally and how dual sim functionality is .

On T-Moblie
I am in TX using T-Mobile and the connectivity was horrible regardless. Even had T-Mobile store try to help.
Anyway, I followed the Xiaomi advice to revert to the China ROM (the "Global" Versions are BS and have this connectivity issue from some suppliers).
I need to flash the ROM tonight since I wiped EVERYTHING after fighting with it all night.
Apparently wiping "System" in a Xiaomi might be a very bad thing. I'll find out. I used TWRP BTW.

I’m referring to the authentic Global ROM that should be onboard the Hong Kong exports.
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Which Global version do you speak of? If you're referring to Max 3 Global ROM, which some stores pre-install - that ROM has no impact on availability of additional LTE bands.
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Ald47 said:
I am in TX using T-Mobile and the connectivity was horrible regardless. Even had T-Mobile store try to help.
Anyway, I followed the Xiaomi advice to revert to the China ROM (the "Global" Versions are BS and have this connectivity issue from some suppliers).
I need to flash the ROM tonight since I wiped EVERYTHING after fighting with it all night.
Apparently wiping "System" in a Xiaomi might be a very bad thing. I'll find out. I used TWRP BTW.
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Where in TX? I’m in San Antonio.

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I’m referring to the authentic Global ROM that should be onboard the Hong Kong exports.
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Where in TX? I’m in San Antonio.
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Houston

mtonne said:
I’m referring to the authentic Global ROM that should be onboard the Hong Kong exports.
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Where in TX? I’m in San Antonio.
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I may need you to send me a recovery image of your phone, if you can, when you get it.
I'm hoping I didn't fubar this one, but I can fastboot and get into TWRP so I don't think it's a total loss.

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Install LTE Discovery from play store - it will show you the bands you're connecting to, signal strength, towers in your area and a bunch of other useful stuff
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Thanks for the recommendation - I am indeed pulling band 4 at all times.

misterk267 said:
Thanks for the recommendation - I am indeed pulling band 4 at all times.
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Any speed test data to share? Network congestions in your area are obviously not the same as mine, but during low load times your tests still give good indication what that CAT 12 LTE modem of SD636 is capable of.

Apo11on said:
Any speed test data to share? Network congestions in your area are obviously not the same as mine, but during low load times your tests still give good indication what that CAT 12 LTE modem of SD636 is capable of.
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I would, but it would be moot since I'm on Cricket and data speeds are capped at ~8Mbps or so, if I remember correctly.

Ald47 said:
I am in TX using T-Mobile and the connectivity was horrible regardless. Even had T-Mobile store try to help.
Anyway, I followed the Xiaomi advice to revert to the China ROM (the "Global" Versions are BS and have this connectivity issue from some suppliers).
I need to flash the ROM tonight since I wiped EVERYTHING after fighting with it all night.
Apparently wiping "System" in a Xiaomi might be a very bad thing. I'll find out. I used TWRP BTW.
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In Houston as well getting Chinese ROM version Tuesday. Did your connection suck cause of installed " global rom

xxfirerican said:
In Houston as well getting Chinese ROM version Tuesday. Did your connection suck cause of installed " global rom
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I believe so since changing to comes ROM stoned it for those that could. I'm out of town so I can't play with it to get it back functioning.

Mi Max 3 just arrived . First off blue color amazing. I'm in Houston on T-Mobile running original China ROM, after adding all Google apps and tweaking some settings as far as syncing this phone is running awesome here in Houston. Super fast and really loving the build quality the phone is huge in person and I can't say enough about blue color.

S9 plus 5G capabilities

Does the Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus have 5G capabilities built in it or does it need a software upgrade does anyone know thanks
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No,
Galaxy S9(+) does not support 5G and will not support it because there is no hardware component built in.
Even the S10 will not support 5G but maybe there will be a seperate 5G version of the S10 later this year.
Regards

S9+ and 5g
My wife phone is s9+and we were I Orlando Fl and I notice that it was connected to 5g. Is that normal.

Ortizjj said:
My wife phone is s9+and we were I Orlando Fl and I notice that it was connected to 5g. Is that normal.
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That's impossible lol.

Ortizjj said:
My wife phone is s9+and we were I Orlando Fl and I notice that it was connected to 5g. Is that normal.
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Might want to look at that network type icon again closely.
It really says 5GE. And, the "E" is really small.
That's really 4G LTE-Advanced. Not true 5G.
Have you not been paying attention to the news the past 6 months about how AT&T is lying and faking out their customers with "5G-E" on all their recent (within the last year and a half) phones?
I get that 5G-E icon in a few really small areas in Baton Rouge, LA. Including right downtown where I work. It gets a whopping 25 Mbps... woo hoo. At my house, just 5 miles away to the east, I get 120-160 Mbps on regular 4G.
Moral of the story - 5G-E ain't all that AT&T wants us to think it is.
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ATT 5G nonsense

I was with a friend who has a new iPhone that was showing 5G. I have the dual SIM international version on ATT and I know it misses band 30 so I was interested to see just how much faster his network speed was. We both ran SPEED TEST and I got a miserable 15MB download and 10MB upload. Meantime.... He couldnt even get more than 2MB on both. He wasn't very happy! We tested web browsing and mine was faster. What a con!

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I was with a friend who has a new iPhone that was showing 5G. I have the dual SIM international version on ATT and I know it misses band 30 so I was interested to see just how much faster his network speed was. We both ran SPEED TEST and I got a miserable 15MB download and 10MB upload. Meantime.... He couldnt even get more than 2MB on both. He wasn't very happy! We tested web browsing and mine was faster. What a con!
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It's not true 5G, it's 5GE it's just a fancier albeit deceptive way of saying 4G LTE+ (if I'm wrong on the LTE+ part my bad I know it's still 4G though) real 5G still has a little bit to go before it's full 5G
https://www.howtogeek.com/399560/5g-e-isnt-real-5g.-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
There's a link detailing it

The 5gE will show up on the S10+. I saw it show up on my 9+.

todd3835 said:
The 5gE will show up on the S10+. I saw it show up on my 9+.
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Probably only on US versions

Joe199799 said:
It's not true 5G, it's 5GE it's just a fancier albeit deceptive way of saying 4G LTE+ (if I'm wrong on the LTE+ part my bad I know it's still 4G though) real 5G still has a little bit to go before it's full 5G
https://www.howtogeek.com/399560/5g-e-isnt-real-5g.-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
There's a link detailing it
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You're absolutely right. They're basically pulling the same Stunt they did when the started labeling HSPA+ as 4G when it was in fact more like 3.5G. Total sham. In order to be considered 5G you need to have a minimum speed of 1Gps. I get about 540Mps on LTE+ in Canada. I don't think AT&T can even come close to those speeds. And it's not even 5G.
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My wife has an Att S10+ and I have a G975F variant.
the status bar shose 5G - but speeds are just typical - however, I have noticed that it is faster than my phone/ I was outside the other day and my wifes phone got 120MB download and 75 MB upload - I did a speed test on my phone at the same spot and I only got 60MB down and 30MB up.
I think it might be because the G975F varient is missing one band that is on the ATT Variant. It isn't reallt 5G but it is a bit faster on ATT phones. I think becuase it is Enhanced LTE....hopefully some day we will be able to flash ATT CSC on the G975F phones....I
don't remember which band is missing from the G975F variant, but it does definately mean that devices that are from the F Varients are not as fast on LTE as the ATT PHOnes.
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You're absolutely right. They're basically pulling the same Stunt they did when the started labeling HSPA+ as 4G when it was in fact more like 3.5G. Total sham. In order to be considered 5G you need to have a minimum speed of 1Gps. I get about 540Mps on LTE+ in Canada. I don't think AT&T can even come close to those speeds. And it's not even 5G.
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Yeaaaaaa I was right. But in all seriousness it's shady as hell business practice (but then again almost all the carriers in the US were guilty of it at some point)
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My wife has an Att S10+ and I have a G975F variant.
the status bar shose 5G - but speeds are just typical - however, I have noticed that it is faster than my phone/ I was outside the other day and my wifes phone got 120MB download and 75 MB upload - I did a speed test on my phone at the same spot and I only got 60MB down and 30MB up.
I think it might be because the G975F varient is missing one band that is on the ATT Variant. It isn't reallt 5G but it is a bit faster on ATT phones. I think becuase it is Enhanced LTE....hopefully some day we will be able to flash ATT CSC on the G975F phones....I
don't remember which band is missing from the G975F variant, but it does definately mean that devices that are from the F Varients are not as fast on LTE as the ATT PHOnes.
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Don't take this the wrong way but your home screen looks like my LG lucid that ran gingerbread. It gives me original Droid vibes as well I dig it.

Joe199799 said:
Yeaaaaaa I was right. But in all seriousness it's shady as hell business practice (but then again almost all the carriers in the US were guilty of it at some point)
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Don't take this the wrong way but your home screen looks like my LG lucid that ran gingerbread. It gives me original Droid vibes as well I dig it.
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that is my wife's phone and home screen...it works for her.

AT&T should be held accountable by somebody for their scummy practices - or at least called out for it. It's ridiculous!

My phone got 7g's on att

Time to root and go custom. 6GYE$ for everyone!

Drunkula said:
AT&T should be held accountable by somebody for their scummy practices - or at least called out for it. It's ridiculous!
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Are you living under a rock? The other 3 major carriers called them out on it already, months ago. There's even an xda article from earlier today where Sprint and ATT settled a lawsuit about misleading customers about 5g "E".

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Are you living under a rock?
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No. I just haven't seen it. Have you seen everything, everywhere?

This 5G stuff is fluff anyways. I live in a rural area with barely any LTE coverage. Will most likely never see 5G here. I deploy IOT hardware (autonomous air quality/meterological arrays, for example) and they all use 2G GSM hardware. They just post data to an offshore server. Point is not all applications need low latency gigabit wireless. That's what my Xirrus wifi is for.
And where LTE service is good, I'm seeing nearly 200Mbps /50Mbps (down/up) speeds with latency averaging in the mid 20s to low 30s. That's good enough for me. Just remove the stupid wifi needed to get big updates and we're good. With unlimited plans these days it's ridiculous to have to tether off another LTE device to get larger updates.

Att recently updated to 4x4 bands and 5ge is their way of showing it instead of something like 4g+

Poor signal on Verizon Note 10+

So I setup my new Note 10+ Verizon Blue model and the first call I got at home, the other party mentioned that my phone sounded garbled. I went to make a few test calls, and every other one dropped. Websites would time out before loading unless I was on Wi-Fi. Speed tests gave me latency errors and 0 upload speed. Outdoors, the phone works great, but indoor reception and even when held a certain way causes a fast drop in signal. I moved the SIM card back to my Note 9 to compare the signal and here's what I found.
Note 9: -99 dBm to -106 dbm 29-35 asu (loads websites just fine and calls immediately go through)
Note 10+: -106 dBm to -116 dBm 99 asu (loads websites after 10+ seconds or they timeout, calls take 10-20 seconds to connect)
Apparently the 99 asu means that the signal is too weak calculate usability. Technical support spent over an hour with me testing every possible solution, even activating another SIM card. Either there is a very serious problem with the towers, and/or the Note 10+ has poor signal compared to the Note 9. Hopefully, it's not the latter because the phone is amazing and faster in every other way. Has anyone else noticed weaker signal?

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Has anyone else noticed weaker signal?
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I noticed I was having issues in a place that I didn't have a great signal before but no issues with streaming on my note 9. Could barely pull up websites on my phone. I swapped my firmware from unlocked to TMobile. I'm gonna run that for a few days and see how it does.

I've been using my note 10+ and noticed I disconnect in some spots on WiFi I didn't previously. I do think there will be some models with bad signal. It's impossible to prevent all lemons. That being said, sometimes carrier networks and towers don't give the full story until afterwards. Were there any network outages that day? How does WiFi calling work for you?

Noticed the dam thing ..I can see the tower from my bedroom...my pixle 3 has full bars and we're as my note has 1 maybe 2 !!!

Guyinlaca said:
So I setup my new Note 10+ Verizon Blue model and the first call I got at home, the other party mentioned that my phone sounded garbled. I went to make a few test calls, and every other one dropped. Websites would time out before loading unless I was on Wi-Fi. Speed tests gave me latency errors and 0 upload speed. Outdoors, the phone works great, but indoor reception and even when held a certain way causes a fast drop in signal. I moved the SIM card back to my Note 9 to compare the signal and here's what I found.
Note 9: -99 dBm to -106 dbm 29-35 asu (loads websites just fine and calls immediately go through)
Note 10+: -106 dBm to -116 dBm 99 asu (loads websites after 10+ seconds or they timeout, calls take 10-20 seconds to connect)
Apparently the 99 asu means that the signal is too weak calculate usability. Technical support spent over an hour with me testing every possible solution, even activating another SIM card. Either there is a very serious problem with the towers, and/or the Note 10+ has poor signal compared to the Note 9. Hopefully, it's not the latter because the phone is amazing and faster in every other way. Has anyone else noticed weaker signal?
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What you describe is what I was experiencing on my Unlocked N10+ using an ATT Sim.
I flashed the ATT firmware/bloatware & My N10+ now works as good if not better than my N9.
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I'm using Verizon with Verizon firmware. There is definitely an issue with the network. The tower is a block away and even my Note 9 is getting slower data, but it works. The Note 10+ times out completely. Friends an family have confirmed the same issue. That 7-10 dBm difference in signal between the Note 9 and 10+ is apparently enough to cause weak signal to become no usable signal. I may swap it out and see if that helps.

Guyinlaca said:
I'm using Verizon with Verizon firmware. There is definitely an issue with the network. The tower is a block away and even my Note 9 is getting slower data, but it works. The Note 10+ times out completely. Friends an family have confirmed the same issue. That 7-10 dBm difference in signal between the Note 9 and 10+ is apparently enough to cause weak signal to become no usable signal. I may swap it out and see if that helps.
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Don't waste anymore time. Exchange it immediately. Brand spanking new phone should not do that.
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i'm having similar troubles. Unlocked Note + on T-mobile. The connection is just not what it used to be on my note 9 & it seems to have an affect on on battery. I enjoy the unlocked firmware for all that it is, but I didn't think I'd be sacrificing my data speeds for things like Truecaller and a bloat-free device

i have a verizon note10+ with verizon firmware and my service has actually been better then it was on my note 8

Trayp1421 said:
i'm having similar troubles. Unlocked Note + on T-mobile. The connection is just not what it used to be on my note 9 & it seems to have an affect on on battery. I enjoy the unlocked firmware for all that it is, but I didn't think I'd be sacrificing my data speeds for things like Truecaller and a bloat-free device
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I'm testing this now on mine. Yeah I'm noticing in places where it was marginal for me, now my device is struggling a little. I flashed to T-Mobile yesterday. Checking it out now

Yeah im on Verizon as well and have noticed signal issues with both cell and wifi ..... I have a mesh network at home and this phone doesnt mesh very well just disconnects and reconnects

Went to VZW guy said I was the 3rd person today to complain about this issue .... Went back to my pixle 3

Slys13 said:
Went to VZW guy said I was the 3rd person today to complain about this issue .... Went back to my pixle 3
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Really hoping this isn't a thing but I'll be damned if my speeds haven't been trash on T-Mobile

So Verizon had a confirmed semi-outage in the Los Angeles area which led to dropped calls and data timeouts which has been mostly fixed. I got a new SIM card and now the Note 10+ is getting within 3 dBm of the Note 9, and data speeds are comparable. So, yes the Note 9 got SLIGHTLY more stable reception but the Note 10+ still loads pages faster. What a weekend to have network issues with everyone blaming their new phones.

Yeah I have had noticeably worse signal than my oneplus 7 pro on Verizon. Really thinking about returning this thing

Hmm, exynos here. Not too good a signal here either in the UK with EE carrier

Verizon here with unlocked Note 10+ and getting same speeds as other S10 devices and XS Max.
Something isn't right with others.
Or I'm lucky?

cpufrost said:
Verizon here with unlocked Note 10+ and getting same speeds as other S10 devices and XS Max.
Something isn't right with others.
Or I'm lucky?
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Same here, unlocketd note 10+, I ignore bars, but if anything my coverage and bandwidth have improved with this phone. On XM(Verizon)

gottahavit said:
Same here, unlocketd note 10+, I ignore bars, but if anything my coverage and bandwidth have improved with this phone. On XM(Verizon)
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That's odd. I really want to like this phone but my speed is literally less than 1 mbps. That's so bad compared to getting around 10-15 easily with my oneplus 7 pro!
This kinda makes the phone unusable
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I've been using my note 10+ and noticed I disconnect in some spots on WiFi I didn't previously. I do think there will be some models with bad signal. It's impossible to prevent all lemons. That being said, sometimes carrier networks and towers don't give the full story until afterwards. Were there any network outages that day? How does WiFi calling work for you?
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Yeah the wifi reception on the note 10 seems to be terrible compared to my other devices.
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pcriz said:
I'm testing this now on mine. Yeah I'm noticing in places where it was marginal for me, now my device is struggling a little. I flashed to T-Mobile yesterday. Checking it out now
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Did your speeds increase with changing firmware? My note 10+ gets less than 1mbps where my oneplus 7 pro would easily get 10-15 mbps easily. Super disappointed in this phone so far.

joshdouglasdavis said:
That's odd. I really want to like this phone but my speed is literally less than 1 mbps. That's so bad compared to getting around 10-15 easily with my oneplus 7 pro!
This kinda makes the phone unusable
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Yeah the wifi reception on the note 10 seems to be terrible compared to my other devices.
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Yeah, I wonder if it's a software glitch, or if it really is a hardware isssue. Looking at the teardowns of the note 10 and 10 plus I don't see why it would be a hardware issue.

Sprint S20 5G on T-Mobile

I have a Sprint S20 5G flashed with the U1 firmware, and am just trying to make sure that I am taking full advantage of T-Mobile's Network? I thought that the hardware/radio bands was identical across the different U variants? The icon at the top, which I know can mean nothing, says 5G. But in settings the network is showing up as LTE. The LTE Discovery app is showing I'm on band 66, but it also says 5G NR: Connected! It looks like my area should be well covered in 5G, so I was hoping to make sure that I'm taking full advantage, or at least am able to?
Is there any advantage to flashing the T-Mobile firmware?

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I have a Sprint S20 5G flashed with the U1 firmware, and am just trying to make sure that I am taking full advantage of T-Mobile's Network? I thought that the hardware/radio bands was identical across the different U variants? The icon at the top, which I know can mean nothing, says 5G. But in settings the network is showing up as LTE. The LTE Discovery app is showing I'm on band 66, but it also says 5G NR: Connected! It looks like my area should be well covered in 5G, so I was hoping to make sure that I'm taking full advantage, or at least am able to?
Is there any advantage to flashing the T-Mobile firmware?
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No point in flashing U instead of U1. As soon as the phone boots with a SIM, it performs another session and gets tuned to the network by the SIM. Your channels and speed will not change. BTW , I talked to a TMO service and support, and right now although 5G, speeds in most cases are at the 100M byte range. Only few lucky ones may see 1Gig if they are out in the open on a mmWave channel . However this technology is aimed at the next years for autonomous driving and other new technologies, not so much for phones, and it will not have reception inside buildings (heck, holding the phone will most likely block that signal without external antenna, and it comes from an engineer here)
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Just make sure you allow 5G to connect. Phone might be set to LTE as fastest..

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See here:

BigE said:
No point in flashing U instead of U1. As soon as the phone boots with a SIM, it performs another session and gets tuned to the network by the SIM. Your channels and speed will not change. BTW , I talked to a TMO service and support, and right now although 5G, speeds in most cases are at the 100M byte range. Only few lucky ones may see 1Gig if they are out in the open on a mmWave channel . However this technology is aimed at the next years for autonomous driving and other new technologies, not so much for phones, and it will not have reception inside buildings (heck, holding the phone will most likely block that signal without external antenna, and it comes from an engineer here)
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Just make sure you allow 5G to connect. Phone might be set to LTE as fastest..
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no offense but engineers dont always know what theyre talking about.. tnobiles nationwide 5g network penetrates well through buildings and avg speed for it is less than 100mbps.. to get 1gbps needs to be on a different 5g network (i forget what its called) which will not be bationwide or have good penetration since it has low range and needs a lot of towers in a small area so will likely only b used in major cities so seeing as hes getting over 100mbps on tmo 5g is better than average and is definitely 5g

BigE said:
No point in flashing U instead of U1. As soon as the phone boots with a SIM, it performs another session and gets tuned to the network by the SIM. Your channels and speed will not change. BTW , I talked to a TMO service and support, and right now although 5G, speeds in most cases are at the 100M byte range. Only few lucky ones may see 1Gig if they are out in the open on a mmWave channel . However this technology is aimed at the next years for autonomous driving and other new technologies, not so much for phones, and it will not have reception inside buildings (heck, holding the phone will most likely block that signal without external antenna, and it comes from an engineer here)
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Just make sure you allow 5G to connect. Phone might be set to LTE as fastest..
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Thanks. I found out from another user, and by looking up in the service mode with a dialer code, that I was actually picking up 5G through T-Mobile band 66 connected somehow with band 2 or 71. So all was well. That speed I got was surely plenty fast for me.

elliwigy said:
no offense but engineers dont always know what theyre talking about.. tnobiles nationwide 5g network penetrates well through buildings and avg speed for it is less than 100mbps.. to get 1gbps needs to be on a different 5g network (i forget what its called) which will not be bationwide or have good penetration since it has low range and needs a lot of towers in a small area so will likely only b used in major cities so seeing as hes getting over 100mbps on tmo 5g is better than average and is definitely 5g
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You just said what I claimed. The only 1GIG speeds are om mmWave bands, and like 90% of us seeing 5G icon are on the 600Mhz long wave that is 100M speeds, or the medium wave , again 100M speeds. I get 5G all day long, and never more than 200Mbit once, and 60-100Mbit otherwise. No mmWave where I am .. so we say the same thing.

BigE said:
You just said what I claimed. The only 1GIG speeds are om mmWave bands, and like 90% of us seeing 5G icon are on the 600Mhz long wave that is 100M speeds, or the medium wave , again 100M speeds. I get 5G all day long, and never more than 200Mbit once, and 60-100Mbit otherwise. No mmWave where I am .. so we say the same thing.
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Adding speed tests

BigE said:
You just said what I claimed. The only 1GIG speeds are om mmWave bands, and like 90% of us seeing 5G icon are on the 600Mhz long wave that is 100M speeds, or the medium wave , again 100M speeds. I get 5G all day long, and never more than 200Mbit once, and 60-100Mbit otherwise. No mmWave where I am .. so we say the same thing.
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Except that T-Mobile isn't implementing mmwave 5G, now or in the future. mmWave is only Verizon. And only Verizon's version of the S20 models has the radio and antennas for mmWave. (That's why the Verizon one has less memory - it needs many more antennas to make sure your fingers don't block the signal, and those antennas take up too much room.) So you will NEVER get mmWave 5G on your T-Mobile, Sprint, or unlocked S20. Even if you put a Verizon SIM in it.
T-Mobile's existing 5G is low band, and slow. They're migrating to Sprint's mid-band network which will be a lot faster than the existing network, but nowhere near Verizon's. But you'll be able to actually USE it, unlike Verizon's which will never exist outside of cities and major suburbs, and doesn't work worth ****e indoors unless you have a repeater.
mmWave is going to go down in history with WiMax as a bet on the wrong technology.

meyerweb said:
Except that T-Mobile isn't implementing mmwave 5G, now or in the future. mmWave is only Verizon. And only Verizon's version of the S20 models has the radio and antennas for mmWave. (That's why the Verizon one has less memory - it needs many more antennas to make sure your fingers don't block the signal, and those antennas take up too much room.) So you will NEVER get mmWave 5G on your T-Mobile, Sprint, or unlocked S20. Even if you put a Verizon SIM in it.
T-Mobile's existing 5G is low band, and slow. They're migrating to Sprint's mid-band network which will be a lot faster than the existing network, but nowhere near Verizon's. But you'll be able to actually USE it, unlike Verizon's which will never exist outside of cities and major suburbs, and doesn't work worth ****e indoors unless you have a repeater.
mmWave is going to go down in history with WiMax as a bet on the wrong technology.
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Not sure where you heard all of that but it is incorrect. Tmobile is deploying mmWave and both the Tmobile and Sprint S20s will support it.
AT&T also uses mmWave and on the S20s as well.
https://www.t-mobile.com/content/da...ing-heroes/T-Mobile-5G-Factsheet-May-2020.pdf

S20 Ultra is the only one with mmwave afaik

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S20 Ultra is the only one with mmwave afaik
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The + has it as well. Verizon has a special version if the base S20 that supports it. But all the + and ultra versions support it no matter the carrier.

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The + has it as well. Verizon has a special version if the base S20 that supports it. But all the + and ultra versions support it no matter the carrier.
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Oh interesting, good to know.
I don't really care if I have it. Our LTE+ is roughly 200ish down and good coverage.

5G at this time is for the most part a marketing tool for manufacturers and service providers but lots of prospective users are buying into the hype. LTE is comparable in speed to low and midband 5G and in some cases even faster. Until mmWave is widely avaliable, which won't be anytime soon, 5G's biggest asset is it's marketing appeal. All hat, no cattle!