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I have been contemplating leaving Sprint for their terrible data speeds and lost promises of a reliable and fast data network and now read about yet another attempt at an even faster LTE network rolling out capable of 1GB/ps speeds.
I never got a reliable Wimax connection, still dont have a reliable LTE connection.
Do I really want to hold out hope and wait again for a real working network or just jump ship now [END RANT]
http://newsroom.sprint.com/presskits/sprint-spark.htm
October 30, 2013
Sprint Spark
Sprint Spark is a super-high-speed capability offering 50-60 Megabits per second (Mbps) peak speeds today with increasing speed potential over time.
Sprint Spark is a super-high-speed capability offering 50-60 Megabits per second (Mbps) peak speedstoday with increasing speed potential over time. Given Sprint’s spectrum and technology assets, it is technically feasible to deliver more than 2 Gigabits per second (Gbps) per sector of over-the-air speed.
Sprint demonstrated 1 Gigabit per second over-the-air speed on Oct. 30 at a Sprint lab near Silicon Valley, Calif.
I got real excited about this also since I'm in Tampa, but I have read in a couple places that you will have to have one 01 the new tri band phones . Iam thinking of leaving Spnnr de to the spotty service and am not sure if I want to renew for another two years to test this out
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But we dont have tri band on the note2 or note3
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Chaz187 said:
But we dont have tri band on the note2 or note3
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Yeah its pretty much useless if you dont have a triband phone.
And the only ones that are going to be triband so far are the Galaxy S4 mini, Galaxy Mega, LG G2, and the HTC one max....and I think some hot spot devices.
This is good news but im still jumping ship I'll wait till next year or so when they do have their network data on point and better tri band phones as to im not a fan of tge G2 or S4 mini or the mega or htc one max lol. T mobile is great in my area and they are at 20x20 mhz now so im just going to jump ship and get a note 3 on tmobile.
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I'll test this out once my Nexus five arrives since I am in Tampa.
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Yeah its pretty much useless if you dont have a triband phone.
And the only ones that are going to be triband so far are the Galaxy S4 mini, Galaxy Mega, LG G2, and the HTC one max....and I think some hot spot devices.
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And nexus 5!
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Guys this announcement is more about raising stock value than about better network speeds...
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I'll test this out once my Nexus five arrives since I am in Tampa.
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I think Sprint indicated in a press release it would be enabled after launch, but maybe that only applies to another phone.
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I think Sprint indicated in a press release it would be enabled after launch, but maybe that only applies to another phone.
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It applies to all phones I think it was lg phones will be enabled in November or December and Samsung on january 2014 so wont probably be able to test it until that update is pushed.
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Sorry to burst your bubbles but it wont reach 1gps on devices..... if anyone thought that it may beat Verizons AWS LTE, in select markets. Go to S4GRU.com to learn more information, and upcoming devices, and network info.
No one really needs 1gps bandwidth on their mobile device unless you dont have internet at home even 1gps is still too much for that purpose. With that beign said anything over 100mbps for a mobile device is too much.
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No one really needs 1gps bandwidth on their mobile device unless you dont have internet at home even 1gps is still too much for that purpose. With that beign said anything over 100mbps for a mobile device is too much.
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famous last words. I remember people saying that one needed 100MB hard drives either back in the 80's. Look at today.
And there is a push going for services provided by the cloud. I can see uses for more bandwidth, and even thought much. The biggest issue I see is more the limitations of the devices because of the hardware or software. Then again, I see smartphones just portable computers with phone service.
And even, and if, the service does hit, doesn't mean that the we're getting reliable and steady 1G throughput. I see it more as overall, we're going to be more bandwidth. And since it's suppose to be triband and switch quickly, hopefully that helps in the reliability, maybe even maintain, higher bandwidth.
I'm ditching Sprint as soon as my contract is up, fed up of no LTE in my area when everything else has LTE. Without wifi my phone is useless with slow sprint data speeds.
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I'm ditching Sprint as soon as my contract is up, fed up of no LTE in my area when everything else has LTE. Without wifi my phone is useless with slow sprint data speeds.
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Greatest decision you could make, I know it's not the same for everyone and some people have great speeds with them but I friggin despise sprint so badly with their less than dial up like speeds, over here in Bakersfield, CA it's T- Mobile or Verizon or GTFO!
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Well... While I think 1Gbps is unrealistic down or up at the moment for an individual phone.... I do expect the backhauls for Tri-band LTE towers are being upgraded to 1Gbps. Japan has proven that there's a market for it with speeds as high as 150Mbps down (per phone!) so I certainly believe we're slowly heading that way. In addition, by moving up to that high of a backhaul now it should potentially avoid serious upgrades like they are doing now for a few years at least.
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Well... While I think 1Gbps is unrealistic down or up at the moment for an individual phone.... I do expect the backhauls for Tri-band LTE towers are being upgraded to 1Gbps. Japan has proven that there's a market for it with speeds as high as 150Mbps down (per phone!) so I certainly believe we're slowly heading that way. In addition, by moving up to that high of a backhaul now it should potentially avoid serious upgrades like they are doing now for a few years at least.
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To be fair...on has to remember why "4G LTE" is called "LTE". Because the actual 4G standard requires 1Gbps in low mobility applications (stationary, walking speeds) and 100Mbps for high mobility. The "LTE" moniker was created to bridge the gap until actual 4G tech like this came around.
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To be fair...on has to remember why "4G LTE" is called "LTE". Because the actual 4G standard requires 1Gbps in low mobility applications (stationary, walking speeds) and 100Mbps for high mobility. The "LTE" moniker was created to bridge the gap until actual 4G tech like this came around.
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Sadly I think we're still a way from there - even "LTE-A" will probably not reach that goal. Part of it is a lack of global 1Gbps global tunnels except in academia.... so even if you get 1Gbps local it may not do much if the file is hosted on a T1 equivalent line.
Considering what Comcast charges for their 100mbps service, I don't think that this will be something that will be covered under the $100 everything plan...
So this mean our Note 3 wouldn't have that capability?
After getting tired of the lack of data connection issues at sprint I jumped over to T-Mobile. While I'm sure it will be a better experience than I had at sprint, I would like to know how all your experiences have been
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I love it man. I've never lost service. I live in Dayton Ohio and there's 4G LTE everywhere here.
Didn't realize how bad Sprint is until I switched to T-Mobile last year......
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So far my phone hasn't dropped to 3g yet. I think I like this
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I do a lot of traveling for work and I used to be a Sprint subscriber as well. I will say that while T-Mobile's speeds are definitely better, Sprint has a better overall network IMO. I often find myself either struggling to find T-Mobile signal, Roaming on AT&T (If it even lets me), or I'm forced to deal with horrible 2G speeds (GPRS). Outside of major cities the majority of the coverage areas are 2G whereas on Sprint it is mostly 3G because if you had to roam you were on Verizon. If you thought Sprint's 3G was slow, wait until you experience T-Mobile's 2G lol.
If you generally reside in or around the larger cities then you have nothing to worry about. My experience is based on what I see everywhere I go... and I go to some pretty remote places and lots of smaller towns. Also, keep in mind that my experience with Sprint was before they implemented Spark and HD Voice, but being as a resident of San Antonio I did get to experience most of what their "Network Vision" had to offer.
As a matter of fact, the images in my signature were from when I was using Sprint. It was shortly after they first implemented LTE... And I lived approximately 45 miles outside of the city in the country. Those were some damn good speeds for being so far out, but I only lived about 1 mile from the tower lol. I only get 2G with T-Mobile out there and the 3G cuts off about 5 miles shy of that town. BUT, before switching to T-Mobile the Sprint speeds in that area had gone way down as more and more people got LTE phones. Last I checked, it was down to 7Mb/s Down and 2Mb/s Up.
Where I live north of San Francisco sprint had some areas of decent 4g but not at my house or at work. It also seems like the battery in my t mobile m8 lasts much longer. Maybe having a strong signal helps
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Where I live north of San Francisco sprint had some areas of decent 4g but not at my house or at work. It also seems like the battery in my t mobile m8 lasts much longer. Maybe having a strong signal helps
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Did you use an M8 on Sprint too?
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Did you use an M8 on Sprint too?
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Yeah.
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former sprint customer, totally thrilled with T Mobile in the Chicago area...Even though Chicago was one of the first places with Sprint's "new" network, we left them 6 months ago when my wife and son couldn't even make phone calls from our house with their M7 phones; ever since we went TMO, we've never dropped a call anywhere in Chicagoland, data speeds are great, and their customer service has been fantastic for us.
towards the end of having sprint, we definitely noticed a change in how they treated customers, obviously a new way of doing things brought over by their new owners...much less likely to issue credits for problems, and even had the nerve to charge us TAX on our cancellation fees!!
Sorry Sprint, NEVER again, and if you merge with TMO, we will leave for another option.
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I do a lot of traveling for work and I used to be a Sprint subscriber as well. I will say that while T-Mobile's speeds are definitely better, Sprint has a better overall network IMO. I often find myself either struggling to find T-Mobile signal, Roaming on AT&T (If it even lets me), or I'm forced to deal with horrible 2G speeds (GPRS). Outside of major cities the majority of the coverage areas are 2G whereas on Sprint it is mostly 3G because if you had to roam you were on Verizon. If you thought Sprint's 3G was slow, wait until you experience T-Mobile's 2G lol.
If you generally reside in or around the larger cities then you have nothing to worry about. My experience is based on what I see everywhere I go... and I go to some pretty remote places and lots of smaller towns. Also, keep in mind that my experience with Sprint was before they implemented Spark and HD Voice, but being as a resident of San Antonio I did get to experience most of what their "Network Vision" had to offer.
As a matter of fact, the images in my signature were from when I was using Sprint. It was shortly after they first implemented LTE... And I lived approximately 45 miles outside of the city in the country. Those were some damn good speeds for being so far out, but I only lived about 1 mile from the tower lol. I only get 2G with T-Mobile out there and the 3G cuts off about 5 miles shy of that town. BUT, before switching to T-Mobile the Sprint speeds in that area had gone way down as more and more people got LTE phones. Last I checked, it was down to 7Mb/s Down and 2Mb/s Up.
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Are you in La Vernia? If so T-Mobile will finally be upgrading the 2G to LTE in the next few months! I'm in San ANtonio too and hate that there is no LTE or 4G down 87 all the way until you hit Victoria.
I was with Sprint for about 12 years and just finally got fed up waiting for them to figure out how to get 4G rolled out properly, so I switched to TM when I purchased the M8 a few months ago.
Now that I'm on TM, I kick myself for not switching over sooner. With unlimited everything and the fact that 4G is so fast in my area, I don't even bother with switching on wifi. (I rarely stream video to the phone, so no real need for wifi)
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I love it man. I've never lost service. I live in Dayton Ohio and there's 4G LTE everywhere here.
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I'm here in beaver creek and I'm literally just outside of the coverage area, I get lte but 5mbs down and about 4 up. But out and about I'm finally getting up to about 26mbs down.
I was with Sprint for over 10 years, then about a year and a half ago i switched to T-Mobile. Im so glad i did. I live in a major metropolitan area so coverage is always good for me.
As others have mentioned living in suburbs or travelling might get you some dead spots. So try the network out and then make a final decision.
My m8 gets great reception but my Daughters iPhone 5s is not so good. I guess that's what she gets for using an iPhone....... Right
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in case anyone is curious about tmobile coverage in their area, they have a free, 7 day, "test drive" now, where they will let you use a iPhone for 7 days for free on their network, and you can see if their network meets your approval...
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Are you in La Vernia? If so T-Mobile will finally be upgrading the 2G to LTE in the next few months! I'm in San ANtonio too and hate that there is no LTE or 4G down 87 all the way until you hit Victoria.
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My family lives west of SA off HWY 90 in Castroville.
T-Mobiles network runs circles around Sprints! I was with sprint for the last 7 or 8 years and was tired of the "We are working on the towers in your area" excuse. I switched to T-Mobile back in February and got the Z1s and I plan on getting the M8 this week with the jump program. I had the M7 with sprint which was a great phone despite sprint's crappy network. I can't wait to be back with a htc phone!
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almost the same exact story from me; as far as leaving Sorint in February because of the horrible network issues.
did you get on tmo for the old jump, before feb 23rd?
I did, and have had a lg flex,(actually 3 of them), and I too can't wait to be back on a HTC phone, for a variety of reasons..
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almost the same exact story from me; as far as leaving Sorint in February because of the horrible network issues.
did you get on tmo for the old jump, before feb 23rd?
I did, and have had a lg flex,(actually 3 of them), and I too can't wait to be back on a HTC phone, for a variety of reasons..
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Yeah I got on around February 6th, what did they change after that?
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the "new" jump, for those that signed up after Feb 23rd, requires you to pay 1/2 of the outstanding balance on your "old" phone, before you can "jump" to a new one. You can do that as often as you want, but it will cost you 1/2 of the outstanding balance on your phone.
the "old" jump, that you and I are on, doesn't have that requirement; we can jump once after 6 months at no charge, and then jump a second time anytime within our first year at no extra charge as well..
I'm getting an M8 next week for my first jump, and then I will wait and see what comes out in the next few months and see; note 4, Sony Z3, htc one max M8, who knows what is coming between now and December..
I was with a friend who has a new iPhone that was showing 5G. I have the dual SIM international version on ATT and I know it misses band 30 so I was interested to see just how much faster his network speed was. We both ran SPEED TEST and I got a miserable 15MB download and 10MB upload. Meantime.... He couldnt even get more than 2MB on both. He wasn't very happy! We tested web browsing and mine was faster. What a con!
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I was with a friend who has a new iPhone that was showing 5G. I have the dual SIM international version on ATT and I know it misses band 30 so I was interested to see just how much faster his network speed was. We both ran SPEED TEST and I got a miserable 15MB download and 10MB upload. Meantime.... He couldnt even get more than 2MB on both. He wasn't very happy! We tested web browsing and mine was faster. What a con!
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It's not true 5G, it's 5GE it's just a fancier albeit deceptive way of saying 4G LTE+ (if I'm wrong on the LTE+ part my bad I know it's still 4G though) real 5G still has a little bit to go before it's full 5G
https://www.howtogeek.com/399560/5g-e-isnt-real-5g.-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
There's a link detailing it
The 5gE will show up on the S10+. I saw it show up on my 9+.
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The 5gE will show up on the S10+. I saw it show up on my 9+.
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Probably only on US versions
Joe199799 said:
It's not true 5G, it's 5GE it's just a fancier albeit deceptive way of saying 4G LTE+ (if I'm wrong on the LTE+ part my bad I know it's still 4G though) real 5G still has a little bit to go before it's full 5G
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You're absolutely right. They're basically pulling the same Stunt they did when the started labeling HSPA+ as 4G when it was in fact more like 3.5G. Total sham. In order to be considered 5G you need to have a minimum speed of 1Gps. I get about 540Mps on LTE+ in Canada. I don't think AT&T can even come close to those speeds. And it's not even 5G.
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My wife has an Att S10+ and I have a G975F variant.
the status bar shose 5G - but speeds are just typical - however, I have noticed that it is faster than my phone/ I was outside the other day and my wifes phone got 120MB download and 75 MB upload - I did a speed test on my phone at the same spot and I only got 60MB down and 30MB up.
I think it might be because the G975F varient is missing one band that is on the ATT Variant. It isn't reallt 5G but it is a bit faster on ATT phones. I think becuase it is Enhanced LTE....hopefully some day we will be able to flash ATT CSC on the G975F phones....I
don't remember which band is missing from the G975F variant, but it does definately mean that devices that are from the F Varients are not as fast on LTE as the ATT PHOnes.
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You're absolutely right. They're basically pulling the same Stunt they did when the started labeling HSPA+ as 4G when it was in fact more like 3.5G. Total sham. In order to be considered 5G you need to have a minimum speed of 1Gps. I get about 540Mps on LTE+ in Canada. I don't think AT&T can even come close to those speeds. And it's not even 5G.
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Yeaaaaaa I was right. But in all seriousness it's shady as hell business practice (but then again almost all the carriers in the US were guilty of it at some point)
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My wife has an Att S10+ and I have a G975F variant.
the status bar shose 5G - but speeds are just typical - however, I have noticed that it is faster than my phone/ I was outside the other day and my wifes phone got 120MB download and 75 MB upload - I did a speed test on my phone at the same spot and I only got 60MB down and 30MB up.
I think it might be because the G975F varient is missing one band that is on the ATT Variant. It isn't reallt 5G but it is a bit faster on ATT phones. I think becuase it is Enhanced LTE....hopefully some day we will be able to flash ATT CSC on the G975F phones....I
don't remember which band is missing from the G975F variant, but it does definately mean that devices that are from the F Varients are not as fast on LTE as the ATT PHOnes.
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Don't take this the wrong way but your home screen looks like my LG lucid that ran gingerbread. It gives me original Droid vibes as well I dig it.
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Yeaaaaaa I was right. But in all seriousness it's shady as hell business practice (but then again almost all the carriers in the US were guilty of it at some point)
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Don't take this the wrong way but your home screen looks like my LG lucid that ran gingerbread. It gives me original Droid vibes as well I dig it.
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that is my wife's phone and home screen...it works for her.
AT&T should be held accountable by somebody for their scummy practices - or at least called out for it. It's ridiculous!
My phone got 7g's on att
Time to root and go custom. 6GYE$ for everyone!
Drunkula said:
AT&T should be held accountable by somebody for their scummy practices - or at least called out for it. It's ridiculous!
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Are you living under a rock? The other 3 major carriers called them out on it already, months ago. There's even an xda article from earlier today where Sprint and ATT settled a lawsuit about misleading customers about 5g "E".
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Are you living under a rock?
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No. I just haven't seen it. Have you seen everything, everywhere?
This 5G stuff is fluff anyways. I live in a rural area with barely any LTE coverage. Will most likely never see 5G here. I deploy IOT hardware (autonomous air quality/meterological arrays, for example) and they all use 2G GSM hardware. They just post data to an offshore server. Point is not all applications need low latency gigabit wireless. That's what my Xirrus wifi is for.
And where LTE service is good, I'm seeing nearly 200Mbps /50Mbps (down/up) speeds with latency averaging in the mid 20s to low 30s. That's good enough for me. Just remove the stupid wifi needed to get big updates and we're good. With unlimited plans these days it's ridiculous to have to tether off another LTE device to get larger updates.
Att recently updated to 4x4 bands and 5ge is their way of showing it instead of something like 4g+
It seems most of the 4G and 5G bands are compatible. I'm just not sure about 3G with the CDMA vs GSM. My service through TMobile just hasn't been good enough.
Thanks!
2125 should work fine. 2127 may or may not work. The rest will not work
Verizon's network is mostly 4G or newer nowadays. CDMA will be a factor in coverage but it's minor. I occasionally will pop into the Verizon network with a random device if I know it's compatible with the bands Vzw use. Pop in a sim and give it a whirl.
I'm using Verizon on my 2125. My coverage and service speed is way better in my area than it was with TMobile. Calls texts and data all work fine.
Hi, I'm using Verizon with this phone. No issues at all. My phone usually is on the 5g network, sometimes on 4g. Only thing is that voice over wifi does not work. Besides that service is great.
VoWifi doesn't work. I haven't found a way to enable that on Verizon. Everything else works fine for me. Speeds could be better but that's probably just my area.
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Verizon's network is mostly 4G or newer nowadays. CDMA will be a factor in coverage but it's minor. I occasionally will pop into the Verizon network with a random device if I know it's compatible with the bands Vzw use. Pop in a sim and give it a whirl.
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CDMA is not a factor in any LTE or 5G phone. Verizon requires a flag CDMA_Less for this phone. Others that are Verizon phones have that set automatically in the back end. This flag has been required for correct functionality for at least 3 years.
I loved VZW and been with them over a decade. I recently switched to T mobile and it was for one reason only. VZW sold many of their towers and TMobile bought them. Tmo used to suck. Service and customer service. But they did one thing. They offered NR..VZW has already admitted that their 5g is a combination of 4G and 5G. UW is available but you will find that to be very limited. 5G is just a marketing tool. The consumers get the short end of the stick and the lawmakers allow the FCC to change the definition of what 5G speeds are. VZW sells the OnePlus 8 5g, will allow the OP9 and OP 9 pro to work. Also while your phone will work on VZW it will not have the correct radio in it to truly take advantage of 5G. This article will explain it
OnePlus 9 Pro Is Now on Verizon, But You Might Want to Stick With Samsung
Although the OnePlus 9 lineup is now certified for Verizon, spectrum limitations, setup bugs, and other oddities mean that a Samsung handset may be the better choice for those not committed to the OnePlus brand.
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Uhhhhh, what? None of that is actually true. And that article doesn't "explain" anything. It's literally not saying anything close to what you are.
Perhaps this will explain it better. There's a reason VZW isn't selling the OP9s. VZW has invested heavily in c-band while T-Mobile is utilizing the low sub 6. The OP9 doesn't have the c- band capabilities since most of the world is doing mm UW and sub 6.too tired to go any further. Most people on VZW had to shut 5g off because of the latency issues. If VZW does indeed sell the Op9 pro it will be c band compatible but will be more expensive to produce. Again I didn't switch to TMobile because VZW did something wrong. I switched because if I'm going to buy a 5g phone in 2021 I want it to work in 5g now not in 2022. VZW is late to the game in true 5G. And they had a net loss of subscribers because of this. Personally I do not like tmo. I don't like their CEO especially so im not knocking VZW.
Verizon 5G coverage map, plans, phones and home internet
Here's where the Verizon 5G network is available and what it will cost you
www.tomsguide.com
Ok guys. I have a LE2125, and I'm using verizon. It works great. Better than it did on t-mobile (Data speed and coverage-wise. Your area may vary). Only issue is there is no VoWifi or VoLTE. Service area and data speeds are great. 5G works. LTE works. LTE+ works. Calls and texts work.
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Perhaps this will explain it better. There's a reason VZW isn't selling the OP9s. VZW has invested heavily in c-band while T-Mobile is utilizing the low sub 6. The OP9 doesn't have the c- band capabilities since most of the world is doing mm UW and sub 6.too tired to go any further. Most people on VZW had to shut 5g off because of the latency issues.
Verizon 5G coverage map, plans, phones and home internet
Here's where the Verizon 5G network is available and what it will cost you
www.tomsguide.com
dkcats3 said:
Ok guys. I have a LE2125, and I'm using verizon. It works great. Better than it did on t-mobile (Data speed and coverage-wise. Your area may vary). Only issue is there is no VoWifi or VoLTE. Service area and data speeds are great. 5G works. LTE works. LTE+ works. Calls and texts work.
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Are you in a metro area by any chance?
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Perhaps this will explain it better. There's a reason VZW isn't selling the OP9s. VZW has invested heavily in c-band while T-Mobile is utilizing the low sub 6. The OP9 doesn't have the c- band capabilities since most of the world is doing mm UW and sub 6.too tired to go any further. Most people on VZW had to shut 5g off because of the latency issues.
Verizon 5G coverage map, plans, phones and home internet
Here's where the Verizon 5G network is available and what it will cost you
www.tomsguide.com
Are you in a metro area by any chance?
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No, I am way out in a pretty rural area in NY
Lucky you. I grew up in the Hudson Valley. Now in Florida since 97. Hate it. Wish I was in Rochester. Too many people in Florida. I'm jealous
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Perhaps this will explain it better. There's a reason VZW isn't selling the OP9s. VZW has invested heavily in c-band while T-Mobile is utilizing the low sub 6. The OP9 doesn't have the c- band capabilities since most of the world is doing mm UW and sub 6.too tired to go any further. Most people on VZW had to shut 5g off because of the latency issues. If VZW does indeed sell the Op9 pro it will be c band compatible but will be more expensive to produce. Again I didn't switch to TMobile because VZW did something wrong. I switched because if I'm going to buy a 5g phone in 2021 I want it to work in 5g now not in 2022. VZW is late to the game in true 5G. And they had a net loss of subscribers because of this. Personally I do not like tmo. I don't like their CEO especially so im not knocking VZW.
Verizon 5G coverage map, plans, phones and home internet
Here's where the Verizon 5G network is available and what it will cost you
www.tomsguide.com
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Your post still had no basis in reality whatsoever. I don't give 2 ****s about Verizon, I'm not trying to defend them. I'm just saying you're spreading completely false information.
Here, I'll break it down:
Verizon sold their towers and T-Mobile bought them? That's... just not accurate at all. Are you talking about this?
America Tower: T-Mobile co-locating gear on Verizon towers we bought
American Tower sees a strong future ahead for its portfolio of cell towers it acquired earlier this year from Verizon Wireless, according to an American Tower executive. T-Mobile US, in particular, has been looking to co-locate its network gear on those towers as it expands its LTE network. |...
www.fiercewireless.com
Verizon leased their towers to a 3rd party company who then sublets the towers. You DO realize that each cell tower holds multiple carriers, right?
Tmo used to suck.
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Every carrier has good and bad spots. Where I live, T-Mobile has been on par with Verizon for years. In other areas Verizon sucks. Some areas T-Mobile can't get signal at all.
Service and customer service.
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T-Mobile has been leading customer service metrics for like a decade now. They've actually been going a little downhill since the Sprint takeover, but T-Mobile has been the gold standard for YEARS.
VZW has already admitted that their 5g is a combination of 4G and 5G.
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"admitted". So is T-Mobile in a bunch of areas. And AT&T. Also, you're thinking of SA and NSA (standalone and non-standalone), not NR. NR (New Radio) allows for SA and NSA, and it's a Qualcomm thing, not a Verizon or T-Mobile thing.
5G is just a marketing tool
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I'm not even touching this. This is pure fantasy.
The consumers get the short end of the stick and the lawmakers allow the FCC to change the definition of what 5G speeds are.
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Lawmakers and the FCC don't change "definitions" of "5G speeds". Nobody does. 5G isn't determined by speed at all. 5th Generation connectivity. It's how phones connect to the towers, not what speeds they run at. If you're getting 1mb/s on a 5G tower, does that mean you're on 3G? OF COURSE NOT. Just like if you're connecting at 200mb/s on LTE, that doesn't make you "5G".
Also while your phone will work on VZW it will not have the correct radio in it to truly take advantage of 5G.
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I really don't think you read the article you linked. The only thing the OP 9 and 9 Pro lacks is wifi calling on Verizon. MAYBE you're trying to say the 9 won't connect to MM-Wave while the Pro can, but it's like that on every carrier. The 9 won't connect to T-Mobile's MM-Wave either. Now, the article DOES mention that the 9Pro won't SAY it's on MMWave, because it's missing the ICON. The Icon.
Insiders tell me that OnePlus could fix this by adding a Verizon "icon pack" to its firmware. I've asked OnePlus for comment and I'll update this when I hear back. The phones also don't work with Verizon's Wi-Fi calling feature. There's just no option to turn it on. Verizon tells me there is no plan to add that, at least for now. I've also asked OnePlus about that.
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Seriously, I have no idea what you're trying to get at here. But it's all FUD.
Now, as to your last post:
There's a reason VZW isn't selling the OP9s.
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Yeah, they sold one model and it FLOPPED. Nobody was buying it, so they chose not to have it take up space on their shelves. They still support every model since the 6T on their network.
VZW has invested heavily in c-band while T-Mobile is utilizing the low sub 6. The OP9 doesn't have the c- band capabilities since most of the world is doing mm UW and sub 6.too tired to go any further.
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The C-Band auction literally ended what, 3 months ago? Verizon and T-Mobile don't even plan on rolling it out until late 2022. Why would they sell phones with it NOW? Also, the "rest of the world"? The EU hasn't rolled out MMWave yet, as they just ended the first rounds of spectrum auctions. MOST countries barely have any 5G, if any. And that's fine, because 5G is mainly about capacity, not speed. And they don't need the capacity right now, LTE-A is working fine for them.
Also, you're confusing C-Band with the existing mid-band spectrum that T-Mobile acquired from Sprint, which is used on band 41 and is known as the "faster" 5G (though still slower than MMWave). T-Mobile's low band 5G isn't about speed either, it's about capacity. You're lucky to get over 75mb/s with their low band stuff. Just like Verizon. Go figure. The lower bands have slower speed and reach further, that's just how physics work.
Most people on VZW had to shut 5g off because of the latency issues. If VZW does indeed sell the Op9 pro it will be c band compatible but will be more expensive to produce.
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Again, NO carrier has C-Band deployed right now, and won't be deployed in any large scale for at least a year. Why would they make a 9 Pro with it later on when it will be at least TWO models behind? (The 9T and the 10, possibly the 10T as well)
I switched because if I'm going to buy a 5g phone in 2021 I want it to work in 5g now not in 2022.
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Uhhh, ok. Despite Verizon's 5G speed sucking, and MMWave not being anywhere CLOSE to ready for prime time, it still WORKS. Again, I don't think you understand that there's a separation between 5G and speeds.
they had a net loss of subscribers because of this.
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Verizon has been losing customers to T-Mobile for years now. It doesn't have anything to do with 5G, it's about being priced out of the budget market. They want to focus on ARPU vs number of lines, while T-Mobile took the opposite approach, hence them giving out free lines right before every earnings report.
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2125 should work fine. 2127 may or may not work. The rest will not work
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I have the LE2127 I got straight from TMobile. So maybe a no go?
I believe it should work as long as your phone is unlocked, whether it's a tmo or global phone shouldn't matter much except of course for adding some tmo specific bands.
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I have the LE2127 I got straight from TMobile. So maybe a no go?
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the 2125 and the 2127 is basically the same phone. It will work perfectly fine.
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the 2125 and the 2127 is basically the same phone. It will work perfectly fine.
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Basically, but not exactly. There's a reason global converted OP9P from tmo must reflash the tmo modem for each OTA.
Since OP already has the 2127, worst case is you give it a shot and see if it works. Maybe it will, may not.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/t-mobile-google-pixel-6-5g-faster-speed_id137167
According to a report by AndroidPolice, U.S. mobile carrier T-mobile plans to bring even faster lightning 5G connection speeds to the Google Pixel 6 handset, with the arrival of next year.
The speed boost will come to both the Pixel 6 and the Pixel 6 Pro, and was actually first discovered by a fan of the publication who decided to check out the modem log of his own daily driver, the Pixel 6. Both members of the Pixel 6 series carry Samsung's in-house Exynos 5123b wireless connection modem, which was freshly released this year.
The modem log, which he has since submitted and is hosted on 4G/5G Bands & Combos, simply revealed the way that the modem handled both uplink and downlink traffic, employing various channels on multiple different bands of the spectrum. This is known as carrier aggregation, or CA, because use of the available resources is simply optimized to allow for a higher data rate per each cell.
The website 4G/5G Bands & Combos serves to list just such data, which is based on real logs from on-board smartphone modems—since a smartphone or modem maker will never actually tell you their supported combinations for 4G or 5G carrier aggregation as part of your device specs; they simply show you a 4G/5G support category number, and leave it at that.
The new log, when contrasted against the previous one from October, contains a new carrier aggregation combination for two of the 5G bands: n71 and n41. According to AndroidPolice's sleuthing, these are actually a direct match to two of T-Mobile's airwaves, 600 MHz and 2.5 GHZ. T-Mobile has apparently been testing carrier aggregation on these airwaves since 2020, and plans to send it live in 2022.
When T-Mobile finally turns on its 5G network carrier aggregation next year, the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro—which already feature millimeter wave 5G reception—will be all set to boost their wireless connection speeds to even higher limits than before.
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roirraW edor ehT said:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/t-mobile-google-pixel-6-5g-faster-speed_id137167
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It's already pretty fast.
bouchigo said:
It's already pretty fast.
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600 Mbps?! Jesus .... I'm lucky if I break 100 Mbps where I'm at.
Fast enough already for me as well
scott.hart.bti said:
600 Mbps?! Jesus .... I'm lucky if I break 100 Mbps where I'm at.
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It just depends where you are at. Those speeds are at my home. I've seen speeds of over 800 Mbps in certain areas where I live, and speeds of about 200 Mbps in others. I've seen others, in different places (somewhere in the east coast) get over 1 Gbps.
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600 Mbps?! Jesus .... I'm lucky if I break 100 Mbps where I'm at.
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I'm lucky if I break 20Mbps. All of us people living in densely populated areas struggle with the speeds being slower than molasses sliding down a tree in the Arctic lol.
Thought I'd just drop in and say I managed to get this speed today with my 6 Pro whilst stopped at the traffic lights in my CBD area (Telstra 5G network in Adelaide, South Australia).
Must have been a really good sweet spot as never seen those speeds before! (My previous record was 700-800Mbps at my workplace with my Oppo Find X2 Pro).
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Thought I'd just drop in and say I managed to get this speed today with my 6 Pro whilst stopped at the traffic lights in my CBD area (Telstra 5G network in Adelaide, South Australia).
Must have been a really good sweet spot as never seen those speeds before! (My previous record was 700-800Mbps at my workplace with my Oppo Find X2 Pro).
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Wow- the best I have gotten is a little over 800Mbs
That's it.... Time to show you guys what's up. 25 Mbps... Beat that! Lol.
It would've been nice if these sites properly credited me for the modem logs.
*looking at XDA in particular*
I've also since proven that the NR-CA works at a live site on Long Island. One of the quickest turnarounds I've ever done for testing.
Texan1 said:
Thought I'd just drop in and say I managed to get this speed today with my 6 Pro whilst stopped at the traffic lights in my CBD area (Telstra 5G network in Adelaide, South Australia).
Must have been a really good sweet spot as never seen those speeds before! (My previous record was 700-800Mbps at my workplace with my Oppo Find X2 Pro).
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Holy ****!!! I've only had my phone less than a week and I live in NYC but the fastest I've got was about 500Mbps, with an average of 200
I just tested my ip13 on tmo 5g UC 600-700dl 60up
They just upgraded the tower across the street where I live
My pixel 6 pro is with Big Red
given verizon is not that great at my house and tmo just upgraded.. may be time for "Keep and switch" promo over to tmobile.
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I just tested my ip13 on tmo 5g UC 600-700dl 60up
They just upgraded the tower across the street where I live
My pixel 6 pro is with Big Red
given verizon is not that great at my house and tmo just upgraded.. may be time for "Keep and switch" promo over to tmobile.
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Wise move! I switched years ago and have never looked back!
New highest speed for me! In the suburbs this time, not far from a tower.
I'm on T-Mobile and I constantly have signal issues
State.of.mind said:
I'm on T-Mobile and I constantly have signal issues
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Where at? Not to bad here in southern Nevada.
galaxys said:
Where at? Not to bad here in southern Ne
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I'm in Central PA
question: has anyone used their p6p from verizon on tmobile and have 5G UC work? I can seem to find a Real answer.