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I've experienced this issue twice now wherein my phone would get extremely slow and laggy to the point that it's unbearable to use anymore and the only solution was a reboot. Launcher keeps on restarting, messaging app takes 5 seconds to open, camera is lagging etc and this is after a week of uptime at least.
Why does this happen in the first place and am I the only one experiencing this? I've been running only maguro milestone 5 and franco for the past month, no other roms whatsoever. Once I power down and reboot everything becomes nice and fast again.
Never happened to me on stock.
I'd say it's "normal" for a phone to slow down over time as you add apps and things, but it should never slow down to a crawl and start crashing until you reboot.
kingofthebraves said:
I've experienced this issue twice now wherein my phone would get extremely slow and laggy to the point that it's unbearable to use anymore and the only solution was a reboot. Launcher keeps on restarting, messaging app takes 5 seconds to open, camera is lagging etc and this is after a week of uptime at least.
Why does this happen in the first place and am I the only one experiencing this? I've been running only maguro milestone 5 and franco for the past month, no other roms whatsoever. Once I power down and reboot everything becomes nice and fast again.
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normal for it to slow down a bit but not like how you described it. i'm running stock though.
It's not normal. Install some monitoring tool like "OS Monitor" and run it when the problem happens to find out the culprit.
Oh and installing multiple apps will not slow down the phone. This is not Windows 95.
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zapek666 said:
It's not normal. Install some monitoring tool like "OS Monitor" and run it when the problem happens to find out the culprit.
Oh and installing multiple apps will not slow down the phone. This is not Windows 95.
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lol at the windows 95 comment
although the # of apps you have alone shouldnt slow your phone down, if you have a ton of apps running in the background eating up ram it may slow down if the available free ram you have is really really low
when your phone is laggy check the ram first
Thanks guys I'll try OS monitor to see what's running. It just happened again right now and this is getting annoying, even typing is laggy but after a reboot everything is normal again.
Kill background apps.
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So far I have not had that issue. Probably like everyone else said. There is some run away app that's eating up your memory
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Its not normal, but aokp does have a bug. Check your system process in system panel, it grows larger over time if you use lock screen options etc.
Ever since I updated my phone to stock 4.0.4, it's not been the same buttery smooth Epic Touch that it used to be on Gingerbread. Sometimes the lags gets so bad that the phone would restart itself. I have done a reformat and things have been going smooth for about 2 months and it has started lagging again now. Right now I am running minimum 3rd party apps, and only limited to reputable ones such as Facebook and whatnot. The CPU Spy shows the phone is in deep sleep most of the time. Android OS still takes up about 90% of battery usage. I made sure nothing is hogging up the ram in task manager and clear memory 2-3 times a day. Yet, it still lags like crazy especially while typing or turning the screen off.
Can anyone chime in on what else could be causing this?
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Ever since I updated my phone to stock 4.0.4, it's not been the same buttery smooth Epic Touch that it used to be on Gingerbread. Sometimes the lags gets so bad that the phone would restart itself. I have done a reformat and things have been going smooth for about 2 months and it has started lagging again now. Right now I am running minimum 3rd party apps, and only limited to reputable ones such as Facebook and whatnot. The CPU Spy shows the phone is in deep sleep most of the time. Android OS still takes up about 90% of battery usage. I made sure nothing is hogging up the ram in task manager and clear memory 2-3 times a day. Yet, it still lags like crazy especially while typing or turning the screen off.
Can anyone chime in on what else could be causing this?
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since you mention facebook what's your sync situation like? just a suggestion as I remember similar threads where constant syncing was causing issues... if android os is using that much battery something is amiss... its just a matter of figuring out what...
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since you mention facebook what's your sync situation like? just a suggestion as I remember similar threads where constant syncing was causing issues... if android os is using that much battery something is amiss... its just a matter of figuring out what...
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FB's refresh interval is set to 1 hour. Is that what you are referring to?
maxspiderx said:
Ever since I updated my phone to stock 4.0.4, it's not been the same buttery smooth Epic Touch that it used to be on Gingerbread. Sometimes the lags gets so bad that the phone would restart itself. I have done a reformat and things have been going smooth for about 2 months and it has started lagging again now. Right now I am running minimum 3rd party apps, and only limited to reputable ones such as Facebook and whatnot. The CPU Spy shows the phone is in deep sleep most of the time. Android OS still takes up about 90% of battery usage. I made sure nothing is hogging up the ram in task manager and clear memory 2-3 times a day. Yet, it still lags like crazy especially while typing or turning the screen off.
Can anyone chime in on what else could be causing this?
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Welcome to ics. I get the same thing and have tried everything. Good news is they are pumping out new builds pretty quick to hopefully they are working out all the kinks.
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try a different rom.
I have this annoying ''bug'' on the 2 custom roms I tried as well as the stock unrooted rom, sometimes I got up to 2 seconds of lag between the double tap thingy and the screen to wake up.
I don't remember having such lags with the M8 though I was using the Dot View cover double tap.
Why is the M9 doing this? Could it be too much apps working in the background? The infamous M9 wakelocks? Could it be the LP 5.0.2 memory leak?
It occurs once over 3 times perhaps, I always mocked old sammy phones to have this lag with the home button/screen wake and now we have this lag on the 2015 M9 :crying:
vegetaleb said:
I have this annoying ''bug'' on the 2 custom roms I tried as well as the stock unrooted rom, sometimes I got up to 2 seconds of lag between the double tap thingy and the screen to wake up.
I don't remember having such lags with the M8 though I was using the Dot View cover double tap.
Why is the M9 doing this? Could it be too much apps working in the background? The infamous M9 wakelocks? Could it be the LP 5.0.2 memory leak?
It occurs once over 3 times perhaps, I always mocked old sammy phones to have this lag with the home button/screen wake and now we have this lag on the 2015 M9 :crying:
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hello.
I have the same exect problem. Every time my phone is not used for a while i get massive lag on wake up guestures.
Did you find out what is cosing this lag?
Same here as well. It didn't happen on the M8.
If I kill all the recent apps it's a temporary fix, but it's not cool to do this before everytime we want to close the screen, it looks like a bad RAM management.
I hope someone can post this bug into Elevate so HTC fix ir
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If I kill all the recent apps it's a temporary fix, but it's not cool to do this before everytime we want to close the screen, it looks like a bad RAM management.
I hope someone can post this bug into Elevate so HTC fix ir
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Hopefully 5.1 fixes it and is released soon.
same here. my M9 doubletap does not awake sometimes and I need to try few times, or even use my power button. someone suggested to me to wipe cache and Dalvik in twrp. seemed to improve (but i dont know if its just psychosematic.)
Disabling Zoe help alot reducing the lag
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Disabling Zoe help alot reducing the lag
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Already disabled it (and the other htc *rubbish bloatware) when I got my M9 new.
Wondering, Could it be Greenify then?
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Already disabled it (and the other htc *rubbish bloatware) when I got my M9 new.
Wondering, Could it be Greenify then?
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I think it has to do with RAM in general, I have the absolute bare bones on the ROM I use and I have issues with double tap to wake and even sometimes with the power button. I've noticed that the apps running option in settings doesn't accurately display how much RAM is actually being used. Just restarting the phone clears it up, but I have to do it once or twice a day.
Mine too peeps and I'm glad someone aired that one out ..personally it's annoying but not a deal breaker .I strongly feel it's a lollipop issue since google released multiple builds helping memory leaks and what nots
I dont believe it's a ram problem. The phone goes in deep sleep when you don't use it for a longer time. This you can see in the graph of your battery usage. This is normal behavior and saves alot of battery.
You'll see that standby time is way better when you don't check your phone every couple of minutes.
You don't have the lag if you try to double tap every or so minutes.
So ram problem is out the window. Or else you would be having it all the time?
And more importantly...you'll be having serious lag opening all of your apps.... Just check the s6 thread. ?
O.T.:Be careful crying ram problems or within no time there will be ram problem hysteria... (like camera hysteria,heat problem hysteria and so on...?)
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Auto-kill Google Playstore with a Task killer help too but it will drain your battery, looks like a Google 5.0.2 app bug
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I think it has to do with RAM in general, I have the absolute bare bones on the ROM I use and I have issues with double tap to wake and even sometimes with the power button. I've noticed that the apps running option in settings doesn't accurately display how much RAM is actually being used. Just restarting the phone clears it up, but I have to do it once or twice a day.
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If it was a ram problem don't you think you'll be having huge lags opening other apps? If ram runs out you will be seeing apps being closed when you open new big apps.... The only lag you notice is when waking the device when coming from deepsleep.
When it's running and you start opening apps you never run in to lag.
At least not on my phone.
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I get this mate, usually when I'm trying to show someone it..in all fairness tapping just below the center of the screen seems to do the job, don't tap too quickly.
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Auto-kill Google Playstore with a Task killer help too but it will drain your battery, looks like a Google 5.0.2 app bug
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Avoid them mate, the criteria for apps doesn't change with app killers, the start stop process actually uses more battery than it saves. Use auto starts mate.
I think the up threshold for screen off could be raised a bit to help with the lag, I can live with it tbh, haven't tried it yet.
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If it was a ram problem don't you think you'll be having huge lags opening other apps? If ram runs out you will be seeing apps being closed when you open new big apps.... The only lag you notice is when waking the device when coming from deepsleep.
When it's running and you start opening apps you never run in to lag.
At least not on my phone.
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Just my opinion sir, with no apps open and coming from a deep sleep I've only had a few issue. It comes more (for me) from multi tasking with multiple apps open for a prolonged period of time, turning screen off and then trying double tap or press power button on a minute or two later. I just wanted to know why the device thinks it has so much memory free. I should I have re worded my first post, I get what you are saying
I never experience this lag, but I did happen to recently have an occurrence. It happened when, by coincidence, I picked up my phone and double tapped right at the time my phone was receiving an email. Apparently being busy with a data process delayed the the screen waking. I'm just wondering if you all that are experiencing this issue have the phone set to turn of data during sleep mode and upon double tapping to wake an app waiting on data is beating the screen to the punch. Or maybe the act of data becoming active again is delaying the screen on. Just grasping at straws here, but it definitely sounds like something is interfering with the screen on process.
I didn't have any issue before the latest update but now it wakes too slow, even up to 4-5 seconds.
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If it was a ram problem don't you think you'll be having huge lags opening other apps? If ram runs out you will be seeing apps being closed when you open new big apps.... The only lag you notice is when waking the device when coming from deepsleep.
When it's running and you start opening apps you never run in to lag.
At least not on my phone.
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Just my opinion sir, with no apps open and coming from a deep sleep I've only had a few issue. It comes more (for me) from multi tasking with multiple apps open for a prolonged period of time, turning screen off and then trying double tap or press power button on a minute or two later. I just wanted to know why the device thinks it has so much memory free. I should I have re worded my first post, I get what you are saying
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My experience is more similar to Bubba Dub's here. There is almost always a slight delay in awaking with MLG or double tap, but every so often there is a multi-second delay and it almost always occurs after only a few minutes of inactivity and NOT after a deep sleep. It seems I'm most likely to experience the issue when I turn the screen off, then shortly thereafter go to wake with an MLG. I get the normal haptic feedback with my gesture, but the screen stays black for a second or two...long enough to make me wonder if I imagined the haptic...
I've found that turning off Auto Rotate seems to sort it out, though as soon as its re-enabled it happens again.
It's really annoying with a dotview case as sometimes there are massive delays when opening the flip, other times its instant and free RAM is always round 2.5-2gb due to custom rom and bloat removal. It happens on Stock, Stock Rooted, Custom Rom's
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I've found that turning off Auto Rotate seems to sort it out, though as soon as its re-enabled it happens again.
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I turned auto-rotate off and just got the "big" delay (as opposed to the normal lag).
So up until about a month ago my tab s was fine, I was running stock lollipop but was rooted at this time. Then I started having some weird issues where it would hang while surfing on chrome, buttons would be unresponsive, couldn't scroll. The battery level started going a bit crazy, dropping quick. Then when rebooted it would jump up 20%. Also, when I'd reboot usually it would be better for awhile with no freezing.
When it continued to happen I started thinking something became corrupt in the OS. So I updated to Schizu's version of MM. That ran really well and I really liked it but then I noticed the battery drain issue that seems to plague that build. I could only get maybe 2 hours of battery of of a charge. Also it would get quite warm, I'm pretty sure I had the tablet shut down on me once or twice when the overheating was reported. Tried undercoating the cpu, didn't seem to help me.
Then came out the official MM build so I switched to that. Now I'm seeing battery drain and overheating. It will warn me it shut down a few apps and then a minute later it will just turn off.
At this point I'm starting to think the tablet is shot. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Mark
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Did you flash a rom that`s alters the cpu frequency like overclocking, Maybe when you flashed a stock rom it did not overwrite the overclocking, I am an rom newbie myself, you need to speak to those with more knowledge.
But it looks like your battery has gone bad and need replacing.
Sort the overheating first as a bad rom can affect the battery as well, though the battery is most likely on it`s last legs.
John.
reinstall MM but before that wipe data , cache and dalvik and use odin to reinstall marsmallow
My problem with overhearing is the Google Chrome app update. That's correct, Chrome! If I update the Chrome app that that is included with marshmallow, then my Tab S starts overheating and eating up lots of battery juice. It's due to some mediaserver service constantly running in the later versions of Chrome which causes the processor load to go way up even when I've left Chrome. If I open the recent apps and just swipe the Chrome app away, the processor load returns to normal. So, you could uninstall the Chrome updates and stop Chrome from auto updating in the Play Store since from my testing the version delivered with marshmallow doesn't have this problem.
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DaWeav said:
My problem with overhearing is the Google Chrome app update. That's correct, Chrome! If I update the Chrome app that that is included with marshmallow, then my Tab S starts overheating and eating up lots of battery juice. It's due to some mediaserver service constantly running in the later versions of Chrome which causes the processor load to go way up even when I've left Chrome. If I open the recent apps and just swipe the Chrome app away, the processor load returns to normal. So, you could uninstall the Chrome updates and stop Chrome from auto updating in the Play Store since from my testing the version delivered with marshmallow doesn't have this problem.
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I just disabled Chrome with Package Disabler Pro. I hate that browser...it's a pest Hope that stops that Media apk too, though I did not disable it. I don't know what it's purpose is.
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I just disabled Chrome with Package Disabler Pro. I hate that browser...it's a pest Hope that stops that Media apk too, though I did not disable it. I don't know what it's purpose is.
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That's a great idea for testing. What browser do you like if I can ask?
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That's a great idea for testing. What browser do you like if I can ask?
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Since I have owned this tablet my one biggest gripe has been web browsers! I have tried just about all the popular ones and not one of them acts right on FB (the FB app just sux). The best I have found is Lightening Browser. Not perfect, but heads above the rest IMHO. Works better than IE does on my PC! Big thing with it though seems to be (A) keeping the cache clear and (B) posting a comment on FB. Type one word and then a space and the OSK closes and the cursor jumps out of the text box. Then you have to tap it to continue and don't bother trying to use suggested words.
Dolphin is absolutely the worst
Boat Browser for Tablet needs an overhaul for MM at least with the SM-T800 it will totally lock up the tablet when browsing long lists of items like a search for an item on ebay.
DaWeav said:
My problem with overhearing is the Google Chrome app update. That's correct, Chrome! If I update the Chrome app that that is included with marshmallow, then my Tab S starts overheating and eating up lots of battery juice. It's due to some mediaserver service constantly running in the later versions of Chrome which causes the processor load to go way up even when I've left Chrome. If I open the recent apps and just swipe the Chrome app away, the processor load returns to normal. So, you could uninstall the Chrome updates and stop Chrome from auto updating in the Play Store since from my testing the version delivered with marshmallow doesn't have this problem.
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Well, it seems the latest update (54) to the Chrome app is no longer doing this on my Tab S. Getting good battery life now, especially with using the Reading Mode setting on my most used apps.
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I completely wiped like mentioned above and reinstalled. Did not update Chrome and have been good. Battery life isn't as good as I'd like but it's acceptable. I guess I'll allow Chrome to update and see what happens now.
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I completely wiped like mentioned above and reinstalled. Did not update Chrome and have been good. Battery life isn't as good as I'd like but it's acceptable. I guess I'll allow Chrome to update and see what happens now.
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I would dismantle the toy and check the battery connections. My 2 cents.
Thanks, good thinking
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Okay so the phone is great let me start there and virtually no lag or studder when using most apps again all. But I did notice today while using Google Maps, Pokemon Go, and Facebook messenger that switching between the apps there was a major system hang and a slow down. Also after having a bunch of apps open it ****s Pokemon go down completely from running in the background and even though it shows it's still open in the recents, when I go back to it, it starts up again like I just opened the app and reloaded it. Has anyone else noticed this issue? And if so is this something that could be fixed with an update or is this just bad ram management for 4gb of ram on this phone?
Pokemon Go is a terribly optimized heavy resource game, it reloads after using almost anything else on my Pixel 2
One thing I've noticed for some apps, if you have it battery optimized, it will do that. YouTube Music for me would. I would be in the car, stop and go in a gas station or whatever, come back out and it would startup like it just opened for the first time. Turned off optimization and hasn't done it since. But yeah, watch out for some games. Some are resource hogs.
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Okay so the phone is great let me start there and virtually no lag or studder when using most apps again all. But I did notice today while using Google Maps, Pokemon Go, and Facebook messenger that switching between the apps there was a major system hang and a slow down. Also after having a bunch of apps open it ****s Pokemon go down completely from running in the background and even though it shows it's still open in the recents, when I go back to it, it starts up again like I just opened the app and reloaded it. Has anyone else noticed this issue? And if so is this something that could be fixed with an update or is this just bad ram management for 4gb of ram on this phone?
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This was happening to me on my Pixel 2 XL, and I thought it was a RAM management issue. Turns out it was battery optimization. I turned off battery optimization and PoGo stopped closing in the background. I did this for a couple of other programs I didn't want aggressively closed. It seems to have done the trick.
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This was happening to me on my Pixel 2 XL, and I thought it was a RAM management issue. Turns out it was battery optimization. I turned off battery optimization and PoGo stopped closing in the background. I did this for a couple of other programs I didn't want aggressively closed. It seems to have done the trick.
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So turning off adaptive battery helps you're saying?
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So turning off adaptive battery helps you're saying?
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Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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Awesome, gonna give it a try, thank you
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Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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Just tried it, unfortunately did not work... IDK what's up with this
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Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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Actually I restarted my phone after I did the changes and now it seems to be working? I'll test it through out the day but if that's all it was you're a life saver my friend. Thank you
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Not exactly. Select the apps and make sure they are not optimized. Everything else on your phone should stay optimized.
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It didn't work, see like when it gets 4 or 5 apps down the list it restarts itself when u try and reopen it .. thank you though
I think there's a RAM leak. I think there was one on the 2 XL too.
I saw someone in the comments of an article say there is way to fix this with root. Is there a magisk mod that helps with this?
probably the SWAP being used
You MOMOS. IT SAVES BATTERY. DO YOU GET IT?
More and more reports are coming up regarding this issue - playing music in the background and then using the camera, etc.
I have experienced it when using Smart AudioBook Player playing in the background and have google maps navigation running. All of a sudden, the audio bookstops playing. I have to switch to the audiobook and restart playback. It then happens again and when I restart the audiobook a second time, google maps' navigation gets closed out. I think google needs to issue a software update for their RAM management.
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More and more reports are coming up regarding this issue - playing music in the background and then using the camera, etc.
I have experienced it when using Smart AudioBook Player playing in the background and have google maps navigation running. All of a sudden, the audio bookstops playing. I have to switch to the audiobook and restart playback. It then happens again and when I restart the audiobook a second time, google maps' navigation gets closed out. I think google needs to issue a software update for their RAM management.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/apps-closing-t3857299/post77946888
In addition to that @topjohnwu has stated:
Just checked the code, it seems that the configurations are read only once when it started. If kernel devs wants to tune LMK, they would either have to: a. Modify /system/bin/lmkd to allow runtime changes b. Use resetprop to modify those read-only props, and restart lmkd https://twitter.com/MishaalRahman/status/1054409086626861056
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Ram isn't a problem for me but I will be implementing simple lmk in FrankenKernel ,for those with issues it's probably just aggressive .. Should not be a huge deal going forward..
Sultan- https://github.com/sultanxda/androi...mmit/cd8c0ff4eba3310ffa016e1bd29b4b0bcd7baff5
Furthermore I think people are taking this a tad too far I have had the device since Friday and can't speak anything but great things and look forward to developing on it in the coming days
There is defiantly some ram issues, i have been using a few music apps that keep getting killed when im doing other things. im sitting at over 3gb of usage almost 700mb more usage then my pixel 2 xl with the same apps i use. Im sure it will be fixed just not sure it will be done with in my return window and since i got it from vzw i wont have the luxury of flashing better optimized kernels . sucks having issues like this but i think all my pixel nexus phones had some odd issues for the first few weeks/months
I noticed the RAM problem while using Amazon Music and Zombie's Run! The music would stop during the first song while the Run app still runs. It really sucks to have to stop my workout to make the music start. My 2XL never had this issue.
I'm on the fence. For this amount of money, I should be happy with it, not annoyed.