Hi everyone, just decided to flash a new ROM to my Mi6 and ran into Project Treble. There is a lot of threads and discussions about Treble and installation to Mi6 and I decided to open a thread which people can help me and future Treble noobs Thanks in advance!
Also I saw something about partitions ( A B and A/B ) and searched which one I'm using and which one is better? Found Mi6 is using A partition table but can't found info about which one is better and can I switch between them....
Chandler Muriel Bing said:
Also I saw something about partitions ( A B and A/B ) and searched which one I'm using and which one is better? Found Mi6 is using A partition table but can't found info about which one is better and can I switch between them....
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A-only is better for custom ROMs since it's straight-forward.
A/B results in two system, vendor and boot partitions ( and possibly other ones too ) , excelling at seamless updates ( OTAs install on the B partitions while you are using your phone and when you reboot, the phone switches to the B partitions and you can use the update right away ).
However, on A/B devices, there's no dedicated recovery partition so you have to infuse TWRP into the boot.img just like Magisk.
The Marionette said:
A-only is better for custom ROMs since it's straight-forward.
A/B results in two system, vendor and boot partitions ( and possibly other ones too ) , excelling at seamless updates ( OTAs install on the B partitions while you are using your phone and when you reboot, the phone switches to the B partitions and you can use the update right away ).
However, on A/B devices, there's no dedicated recovery partition so you have to infuse TWRP into the boot.img just like Magisk.
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Many many thanks for too much useful and full of information post
I chechked HavocOS 2.0 GSI thread and i think i'll install it
Chandler Muriel Bing said:
Hi everyone, just decided to flash a new ROM to my Mi6 and ran into Project Treble. There is a lot of threads and discussions about Treble and installation to Mi6 and I decided to open a thread which people can help me and future Treble noobs Thanks in advance!
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how can i upgrade my tecno phantom 5 please, it running on lollipop and i need an upgrade urgently
taptechcom said:
how can i upgrade my tecno phantom 5 please, it running on lollipop and i need an upgrade urgently
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I don't think that device has treble support, sorry. But still you can search for custom ROMs
Hello s9+ users.
Although there is a couple 9.0 and 8.1 gsi build....there is a whole forum on xda with builds....my question is...
Will the other project treble forums builds work?
I know our phone is arm64 but some builds say arm64-a or arm64-a/b ..... what would I flash?
Thank you
I believe our phones are a only, a/b would mean they have two partitions, meaning software updates are done in the background and when you restart the phone the update is already applied on the second partition.
Hello everyone,
I'm getting really frustrated hree as I can't flash any android 10 GSI. I either get bootloop, stuck on samsung logo or stuck on restarting on samsung logo.
Flashing different kernels seem to change the above behavior (instead of bootloop I get samsung logo and vice-versa).
I tried everything:
Doing the no-verity thingie...
Flashing stock files then GSI - nothing.
Flashing soldiers oreo kernel - nothing
Flashing endurance kernel - nothing
I can't find a vendor image that's compatible with any GSI on my phone. I also can't find any kernel that's compatible either.
So please, end my misery... if anyone managed to install android 10 GSI on this TREBLE COMPATIBLE DEVICE, please guide me through or provide any useful file (vendor img/kernel) that I might have been missed.
I wrote this because I couldn't find anything that could help... Thanks in advance!
EDIT:
I solved the problem with the kind help from phhusson and the guidance from Lanreallenjay (thanks, both of you!), so I'm trying to provide the solution for anyone that might be having the same problem as I had. So here it is:
For PIE GSI: use stock kernel/vendor (anything stock), flash the GSI, then flash Magisk -> it should boot fine now (only tested with phhusson's GSI. I had vibrating restart loops before, I wasn't installing magisk, that was my mistake)
For Android 10 GSI: same as above, but install the modded Magisk from phhusson's git (located @ v200 android 10 gsi post) instead of the normal one .
itShouldWork said:
Hello everyone,
I'm getting really frustrated hree as I can't flash any android 10 GSI. I either get bootloop, stuck on samsung logo or stuck on restarting on samsung logo.
Flashing different kernels seem to change the above behavior (instead of bootloop I get samsung logo and vice-versa).
I tried everything:
Doing the no-verity thingie...
Flashing stock files then GSI - nothing.
Flashing soldiers oreo kernel - nothing
Flashing endurance kernel - nothing
I can't find a vendor image that's compatible with any GSI on my phone. I also can't find any kernel that's compatible either.
So please, end my misery... if anyone managed to install android 10 GSI on this TREBLE COMPATIBLE DEVICE, please guide me through or provide any useful file (vendor img/kernel) that I might have been missed.
I wrote this because I couldn't find anything that could help... Thanks in advance!
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What's your phone's specifications?
Lanreallenjay said:
What's your phone's specifications?
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Hey, thanks for the interest!
I've got the S9 Exynos variant (SM-G960F, Europe), I unlocked the bootloader several days ago.
It's on android 9 right now, I flashed the stock firmware after I've tried everything to get android 10 treble to work and failed.
Current kernel version: 4.9.59-16947752 (stock)
Build number: PPR1.180610.011.G960FXXS7CSJ3
I can flash any rom available besides GSI (I've used lineage OS 16 for a couple of days).
If you need anything else more specific just ask, I don't really know what exactly can help with this situation.
Cheers!
itShouldWork said:
Hey, thanks for the interest!
I've got the S9 Exynos variant (SM-G960F, Europe), I unlocked the bootloader several days ago.
It's on android 9 right now, I flashed the stock firmware after I've tried everything to get android 10 treble to work and failed.
Current kernel version: 4.9.59-16947752 (stock)
Build number: PPR1.180610.011.G960FXXS7CSJ3
I can flash any rom available besides GSI (I've used lineage OS 16 for a couple of days).
If you need anything else more specific just ask, I don't really know what exactly can help with this situation.
Cheers!
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Ask for help here
https://t.me/phhtreble/283195 <---
Read before any question ^^^
After flashing G960FXXS7CSJ3 November stock firmware I can no longer flash anything.
(can't mount data partition)
When I try downgrading to G960FXXU5CSF2 June firmware Odin fails and the screen says:
SW REV. CHECK FAIL (BOOTLOADER) DEVICE: 7 BINARY: 5
November G960FXXS7CSJ3 seems to have upgraded the bootloader security, does anyone know a fix?
itShouldWork said:
Hello everyone,
I'm getting really frustrated hree as I can't flash any android 10 GSI. I either get bootloop, stuck on samsung logo or stuck on restarting on samsung logo.
Flashing different kernels seem to change the above behavior (instead of bootloop I get samsung logo and vice-versa).
I tried everything:
Doing the no-verity thingie...
Flashing stock files then GSI - nothing.
Flashing soldiers oreo kernel - nothing
Flashing endurance kernel - nothing
I can't find a vendor image that's compatible with any GSI on my phone. I also can't find any kernel that's compatible either.
So please, end my misery... if anyone managed to install android 10 GSI on this TREBLE COMPATIBLE DEVICE, please guide me through or provide any useful file (vendor img/kernel) that I might have been missed.
I wrote this because I couldn't find anything that could help... Thanks in advance!
EDIT:
I solved the problem with the kind help from phhusson and the guidance from Lanreallenjay (thanks, both of you!), so I'm trying to provide the solution for anyone that might be having the same problem as I had. So here it is:
For PIE GSI: use stock kernel/vendor (anything stock), flash the GSI, then flash Magisk -> it should boot fine now (only tested with phhusson's GSI. I had vibrating restart loops before, I wasn't installing magisk, that was my mistake)
For Android 10 GSI: same as above, but install the modded Magisk from phhusson's git (located @ v200 android 10 gsi post) instead of the normal one .
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So from stock you flashed AOSP 10 GSI to system partition then phh's magisk (in TWRP) then it works for you?
rupert3k said:
So from stock you flashed AOSP 10 GSI to system partition then phh's magisk (in TWRP) then it works for you?
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Yep, it does. Buuut the rom is not stable at all, I've got random reboots/ crashes when opening settings and such, not usable at all. I'm on ONE UI 2.0 beta now which is much more stable (daily driver stable actually).
rupert3k said:
After flashing G960FXXS7CSJ3 November stock firmware I can no longer flash anything.
(can't mount data partition)
When I try downgrading to G960FXXU5CSF2 June firmware Odin fails and the screen says:
SW REV. CHECK FAIL (BOOTLOADER) DEVICE: 7 BINARY: 5
November G960FXXS7CSJ3 seems to have upgraded the bootloader security, does anyone know a fix?
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Have you tried formatting data with TWRP (to the part when it asks you to write "yes") then flash no-verity?
You should at least be able to flash TWRP. If you can't, just download the proper USB drivers for your device, it might be the culprit.
Cheers!
itShouldWork said:
Yep, it does. Buuut the rom is not stable at all, I've got random reboots/ crashes when opening settings and such, not usable at all. I'm on ONE UI 2.0 beta now which is much more stable (daily driver stable actually).
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Phh just hinted it's likely Pie vendor causing panics:
"First you need to flash stock rom. Then install magisk and then this gsi.
Though please note that on Pie vendor, S9 kernel panics and reboot every few minutes, so it is highly unusable."
itShouldWork said:
Hey, thanks for the interest!
I've got the S9 Exynos variant (SM-G960F, Europe), I unlocked the bootloader several days ago.
It's on android 9 right now, I flashed the stock firmware after I've tried everything to get android 10 treble to work and failed.
Current kernel version: 4.9.59-16947752 (stock)
Build number: PPR1.180610.011.G960FXXS7CSJ3
I can flash any rom available besides GSI (I've used lineage OS 16 for a couple of days).
If you need anything else more specific just ask, I don't really know what exactly can help with this situation.
Cheers!
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I have tried Android 10 GSI , using latest Q update
ZoiraP said:
I have tried Android 10 GSI , using latest Q update
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Is it usable? any random reboots/ annoying instability?
itShouldWork said:
Is it usable? any random reboots/ annoying instability?
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I have tried it partly , nfc isnt working , camera quality is bad , Bluetooth working , audio working , magisk working . I'll use it a bit more and tell you.
ZoiraP said:
I have tried it partly , nfc isnt working , camera quality is bad , Bluetooth working , audio working , magisk working . I'll use it a bit more and tell you.
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Camera quality might be fixed with Google cam, if you find a good port.
Not to derail the thread but I just noticed after installing Android 10 beta 2 Treble Info now reports my S9 supports Treble A/B, curious no?
rupert3k said:
Not to derail the thread but I just noticed after installing Android 10 beta 2 Treble Info now reports my S9 supports Treble A/B, curious no?
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Wait what? That's interesting...
Can someone with more experience enlighten us about the differences between the A only and A/B?
A\B
itShouldWork said:
Wait what? That's interesting...
Can someone with more experience enlighten us about the differences between the A only and A/B?
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No real experience but A\B devices have two slots ie double the partitions (OnePlus has 67) .
This allows updates to be installed while running from slot A while the updated system is copied to B.
Apparently Q requires A\B so now we're on Q may as well try that next time we're curious
Phh just released:
AOSP 10.0 v208
Fix suspend/dt2w for Samsung Q vendor
Fix backlight for Samsung Q vendor
Samsung Q's fine, love gestures but the bloat is killing me.
You can tell Q's going to be so much leaner without bixby & friends.
Glad we installed it to get compatible but I think now we probably stand a better chance with 10 GSI's, hopefully LOS17 & Pixel Experience get updated again soon.
Wondering whether to following the rooting instructions yet?
Phh did say "flash stock rom then magisk and then gsi"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/how-to/one-ui-2-beta-rooting-installing-twrp-t4012961
ZoiraP's wondering why we sooo slow lol!
Wow this looks good: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-s9--s9-cross-device-development/rom-t4020939
Hello there, I have a fully-compatible treble Motorola One Action (not rooted, no twrp, bootloader was not unlocked[yet])
I was wondering, can I flash a GSI ROM with Android 10, having already Android 10?
Looked on Android Devs site, no answer for this question.
I have to mention that my device has AB partitions.
Please help me!
AlphaCoder64 said:
Hello there, I have a fully-compatible treble Motorola One Action (not rooted, no twrp, bootloader was not unlocked[yet])
I was wondering, can I flash a GSI ROM with Android 10, having already Android 10?
Looked on Android Devs site, no answer for this question.
I have to mention that my device has AB partitions.
Please help me!
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Yes. Project Treble is independent from the android version as long as your device comes with minimum Android 8 out of the box (cause with Android 8 Project Treble was introduced).
Of course your current Stock will be replaced. And you need a unlocked bootloader to boot a GSI (which probably will lead to a wipe of your data so backup it first).
AlphaCoder64 said:
Hello there, I have a fully-compatible treble Motorola One Action (not rooted, no twrp, bootloader was not unlocked[yet])
I was wondering, can I flash a GSI ROM with Android 10, having already Android 10?
Looked on Android Devs site, no answer for this question.
I have to mention that my device has AB partitions.
Please help me!
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Adding to the post by the other user, it's VERY recommended to:
Install Twrp (whatever is latest)
Use Twrp to flash "permissiver v4 or v5" (Google it )
Hello, am new to pixel device... My previous device was Xiaomi Mi 11 , my device carne with A13 !my question is there any way to downgrade to A12 I want to flash derfest A12 my fav ROM .. thx in advance
Hello, welcome to Pixel land.
First, in order to flash a factory image, you'd have to unlock your bootloader. If you don't know already, click the yellow How To Guide quick filter at the top of the list of threads in this section and you'll find 3-4 threads that tell how. I also have a link in my signature below - you can use the link for the Pixel 7 Pro - the instructions to unlock the bootloader are the same, and the OP of my Pixel 7 Pro thread is much better organized than my one for the Pixel 6 Pro, in my opinion.
After that, the only way you can downgrade (and have everything working, and not brick your phone is to use one of the two Android 12 Developer Support images for Pixel. There's an Android 12.0 build from February and an Android 12.1 build from July. They will never receive updates, however.
You can always manually flash a Pixel 6 Pro stable Factory Image to re-upgrade at a later date, or use the Official Google Android Flash Tool (OEM Unlocking needs to be toggled on - you may not have to manually unlock the bootloader - the "site" will do that on its own) to re-upgrade.
Any of the stable Android 12 builds at that factory image link should not be flashed because the Android 13 bootloader cannot be downgraded to an Android 12 bootloader, and if you flash everything from 12 Stable but the bootloader, it'll appear to work at first, but it truly won't work correctly - it will not be useable.
If you unlock the bootloader, you should also make sure the Android 13 bootloader is flashed to your inactive slot as well, to avoid the possibility of accidentally bricking your new phone.
Thanks for the fast reply sir much appreciated .. I got the idea ... My device stock unlocked and rooted .. now my question is if I flashed the July A12.1 developer ... Can I flash custom ROM based on A12.1 like derpfest etc ... Sorry I mixed up things here little harder than xiaomi
Antidote03 said:
Thanks for the fast reply sir much appreciated .. I got the idea ... My device stock unlocked and rooted .. now my question is if I flashed the July A12.1 developer ... Can I flash custom ROM based on A12.1 like derpfest etc ... Sorry I mixed up things here little harder than xiaomi
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You're welcome. I don't fool around with custom ROMs except on my 6-year-old or more phones, so I can't answer that question. Part of the best things about having Pixels is the software features Google starts off exclusively on the Pixel stock ROMs.