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There seems to be a numver of issues with the S20, and nothing has really tempted me to upgrade aside from this phone.
My phone is becoming useless though. It's very slow, has a terrible screen response, and the battery is shot. This phone has disappointed me more than any other Note, and I don't even use the S pen often.
I'm not waiting on the Note 20, so would you upgrade to the S20 from the Note 8?
My husband and I are discussing the options for which one, I'm probably going with the ultra so I can have the camera, but we will never have 5G anywhere we live so that part is useless.
Does BK package disabler or a similar program work with this phone? I know never being able to root the Note 8 drove me nuts.
Thoughts?
I have an unlocked note8 and bought the AT&T S20 plus.
For me, the answer is yes - it was worth it.
I debated a long time about the Ultra - I think both the plus and ultra models are wonderful.
"zoom" camera even on the regular S20 is objectively better than the Note8.
AprilAr said:
There seems to be a numver of issues with the S20, and nothing has really tempted me to upgrade aside from this phone.
My phone is becoming useless though. It's very slow, has a terrible screen response, and the battery is shot. This phone has disappointed me more than any other Note, and I don't even use the S pen often.
I'm not waiting on the Note 20, so would you upgrade to the S20 from the Note 8?
My husband and I are discussing the options for which one, I'm probably going with the ultra so I can have the camera, but we will never have 5G anywhere we live so that part is useless.
Does BK package disabler or a similar program work with this phone? I know never being able to root the Note 8 drove me nuts.
Thoughts?
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The Note20 will be better and faster than any S20 model.
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Upgraded from note 8 to S20
I myself upgraded from a Note 8 to an S20.
Mind you it is the S20 and not S20+ or ultra.
Both are exynos so my experience will be biased for exynos markets only.
1. Screen : Not much different in terms of screen quality but that refresh rate, IMO is the best thing for me as I can scroll endless pages of instagram and youtube and website scrolling is so amazing.
2. Camera : By far the biggest improvement from the Note 8 is the camera modules here.
I am not much into 8K gimmics but using the ultra wide, the Smooth 60 fps in both 4k and full hd are phenominal. Pictures come out very good.
3. Battery life : Using the 120hz leaves very little room for better battery life than the Note 8 but I am sure if in a pinch, dropping the screen refresh rate to 60 will easily give me a couple extra hours. So it will be good for those long road trips.
4. The best part , THE SMALL SIZE : Well, not really a small size at 6.2 inches. However, it is a huge difference between the huge note and this little handy yet powerful phone. The note 8 is roughly the size of s20+ and beleive me the note feels cluncky as hell now that I am used to the size of s20.
5. App opening speeds and basic day to day performance is far superior to that note.
Note: You may feel like the s20 heats up like crazy if used in continuation a lot or if some high end game is played for long, well I faced that problem a lot and I have already opened a thread in the discussion sections to talk with other owners about the problem. I found out that restoring from my note 8 using samsung switch was the biggest mistake I could do. I then cleaned the phone by doing a factory reset and set it up as a new device and I must say, I could not be any happier.
I would say go for the S20. You will not regret it.:fingers-crossed:
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Kunal
I have pre-ordered S20+(Exynos), but did not get the phone because of lockdown.. as now OnePlus 8 pro lunched. Please suggest me what should I do? Cancel the s20+ pre-order & go for the OnePlus 8pro or go for S20+? My priority is camera performance..
Do what YOU want to do!
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Need a phone that can take good pictures.. with dual SIM support.
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Need a phone that can take good pictures.. with dual SIM support.
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I sent back my s20+ and will try the oneplus pro 8 , however im from the uk so my version of the s20+ as the exynos one.
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I sent back my s20+ and will try the oneplus pro 8 , however im from the uk so my version of the s20+ as the exynos one.
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Please let me know your experience of OnePlus 8 Pro
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Please let me know your experience of OnePlus 8 Pro
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will be a few weeks away yet. On another note i dident find the camera to bad no autofocus issues and pictures looked nice ... but im no expert
S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that. I bought into the bs that my OnePlus 6 had nearly flagship camera quality when I bought it, it sure did not. That's how OnePlus is. Solid build quality, decent hardware, tiny battery, and flagship prices now. They're not the worst phones by any means but just about every major manufacturer's flagships are better.
S20+：The phone heats up a lot, apps crash, battery life is not whats advertised.We currently do not purchase One Plus 8 Pro
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S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that. I bought into the bs that my OnePlus 6 had nearly flagship camera quality when I bought it, it sure did not. That's how OnePlus is. Solid build quality, decent hardware, tiny battery, and flagship prices now. They're not the worst phones by any means but just about every major manufacturer's flagships are better.
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You are right but I was disappointed with the S10 camera and am very disappointed with the S20+ I am actually thinking of selling my S20+ to get the OP8 Pro. The hardware in the samsung is probably better but I am just not having their software choices.
I'd buy the 8 Pro in a heartbeat. Using the S20+ and I'm disappointed with the camera.
Definitely no for S20 series exynos.
This time Samsung screwed up the s20 series with exynos cpu. We are facing one or the other problems with their cumulative updates.
So for they are not able to resolve battery life, phone overheating.
Now I believe samsung have taken for granted their fan base.
They are under assumption, the huge fan base will just buy whatever they throw at us & keep waiting with hopes that next update may resolve the issue.
Very frustrating to use s20. (was supposed to get ultra, but knowing the camera issue I skip to get base variant S20. to realize even this also have many issue).
Intermittently even on longer ph calls the phone exceed 40 deg & becomes hard to hold on to ears.
Forget about playing games or making video. Now aim forced to use the phone with 60hz and power save mode, under fear it may catch fire. Hahahah.
Really sometimes with 120hz it becomes hot pan. Quickly got to refrain from using the phone.
I really don’t understand what they have made this out off.
Been using samsung device from past 5 years.
We buy the brand on release dates with trust & faith. If this is how they show credibility.
Definitely next time got to think twice to jump in.
For sure the sales fig will make them to realize their mistakes.
Both are crazy good phones. As good as oneplus is and I loved their phones up til theb7 pro, they have some quirks I can't get past. Biggest is DEEP SLEEP. Sometimes I would wake up and phone would be unresponsive. Had to force reboot. Samsunf never has those problems. One ui 2.1 makes the software fast fluid and completely usable. Im happy with my s20 plus. It ended up being cheaper than the onepkusnhere in the US when buying with a student discount.
I think a lot depends on where you’re from, if like me uk then the oneplus 8 pro is a no brainer. I’m sure I would have kept my Samsung had it not had the exynos chip in it.
for me the decision was made when I popped to shops in car I put a YouTube video on literly 5 minutes and the phone was thermal throttling 120hz > 30hz bearing in mind its only spring in uk .. so, it can only get worse
If only the p40 pro had google :/
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S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that.
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So the OnePlus 8 Pro camera is garbage because you have first-hand experience with it, right? Yeah ok.
I have a S20+ and I love it. However, if I needed a new phone now, I'd seriously consider the OPO 8 Pro or even the "regular" OPO 8. I haven't read reviews of the camera, but most people just need a camera to post to social media and share with friends, who will view the photos on another phone. Is the S20 / S20+ / Ultra worth the extra money? Probably not. However, Samsung is offering some great trade-in deals, which is why I traded in my Note 10. If Samsung hadn't offered me $700 towards the purchase of a S20+, I'd still be using my Note 10 and probably contemplating buying a OPO 8 right now.
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S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that. I bought into the bs that my OnePlus 6 had nearly flagship camera quality when I bought it, it sure did not. That's how OnePlus is. Solid build quality, decent hardware, tiny battery, and flagship prices now. They're not the worst phones by any means but just about every major manufacturer's flagships are better.
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I think a lot depends on where you’re from, if like me uk then the oneplus 8 pro is a no brainer. I’m sure I would have kept my Samsung had it not had the exynos chip in it.
If only the p40 pro had google :/
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I am about to eBay my S20+ for the same reasons. Love the form factor, hate the camera and Exynos shortcomings in the UK we even pay more for the inferior experience.
Have considered the P40 pro several times now, I'd mostly be totally ok with no google but it is the big exceptions like no Google Pay, banking apps and the inevitable constant faff to get other stuff working, such a shame, I'd order one immediately but for this. I have also considered more than once going back to a P30 pro, I'd still bank on the camera being better than the S20.
Re OnePlus at current prices I cannot see a reason to pick the standard 8 over the 7T Pro or even 7 Pro.
Op 7 Pro.
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So the OnePlus 8 Pro camera is garbage because you have first-hand experience with it, right? Yeah ok.
I have a S20+ and I love it. However, if I needed a new phone now, I'd seriously consider the OPO 8 Pro or even the "regular" OPO 8. I haven't read reviews of the camera, but most people just need a camera to post to social media and share with friends, who will view the photos on another phone. Is the S20 / S20+ / Ultra worth the extra money? Probably not. However, Samsung is offering some great trade-in deals, which is why I traded in my Note 10. If Samsung hadn't offered me $700 towards the purchase of a S20+, I'd still be using my Note 10 and probably contemplating buying a OPO 8 right now.
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And it winds up costing the same if you trade in because One+ is going to offer $400 tops for the Note 10 unfortunately.
I think I'm done with notches and punch holes. I want a full screen with no obstructions.
I'm OK with something that pops up as long as it doesn't mean the device has no IP rating.
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S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that. I bought into the bs that my OnePlus 6 had nearly flagship camera quality when I bought it, it sure did not. That's how OnePlus is. Solid build quality, decent hardware, tiny battery, and flagship prices now. They're not the worst phones by any means but just about every major manufacturer's flagships are better.
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Funny. Go look at the S20 forums and you will see it's not so great
maybe mi 10 pro ?
Easy. If you live in a country where you can only get the S20 Exynos variant? Go for OnePlus 8 Pro.
You live in a place where you can get the S20 Snapdragon? You ask yourself what you like best, a more stock Android experience or One UI? And then decide base on that.
Phones are pretty similar, comparing S20+ vs OnePlus 8 Pro. Both have 6.7" displays. Both 120hz. Both with great color reproduction, viewing angles and brightness. Memory and storage is great on both. Main camera is great on both, wide angle is mixed, telephoto is better on the S20+ but not by that much. Both have dual SIM but S20 has the option to one SIM and SDCard.
Phones are pretty similar on the spec sheet if buying the Snapdragon. Exynos is ****! I got one, overheats, battery don't last long enough and performance? Performance is AWFUL! Stutters here and there, and when it heats up? Phone caps at 60hz.
hi,
I have Galaxy S20 Ultra since the pre-orders, Exynos 990 variant.
I am pissed of about the S20Ultra camera which is worse than even S20+ ..
I am planing to ditch it and get a S20+ (still Exynos variant due to EU constraints).
And I am getting all kind of review over the internet /youtube regarding which one is better and which one is not.
From what I understand 5G is almost not exiting as network and therefore 5G variant now is pointless. But the 5G phone hardware is still consuming battery, though..
So even if S20+ Exynos has 4500mha battery less than Ultra, it has only 4G and thinking better SoT /battery life to be..
P40 Pro lacks Google Play Services and even though you can install them, Google Photos not working and some notifications not showing.
And also from the past days seems that camera suffers from focus and blurry OIS..
So any suggestions and reviews are welcomed.
Thank you in advance.
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hi,
I have Galaxy S20 Ultra since the pre-orders, Exynos 990 variant.
I am pissed of about the S20Ultra camera which is worse than even S20+ ..
I am planing to ditch it and get a S20+ (still Exynos variant due to EU constraints).
And I am getting all kind of review over the internet /youtube regarding which one is better and which one is not.
From what I understand 5G is almost not exiting as network and therefore 5G variant now is pointless. But the 5G phone hardware is still consuming battery, though..
So even if S20+ Exynos has 4500mha battery less than Ultra, it has only 4G and thinking better SoT /battery life to be..
P40 Pro lacks Google Play Services and even though you can install them, Google Photos not working and some notifications not showing.
And also from the past days seems that camera suffers from focus and blurry OIS..
So any suggestions and reviews are welcomed.
Thank you in advance.
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Hi, the real question is : what do you want to do with your new phone that you can't do with your actual phone
filming for personal and business to be able to edit in final cut and take pictures for personal and business reasons at a proper quality.
oneplus 8 pro compared to s20ultra pictures at least were so sharp and clean.. and then i saw s20+ is better than oneplus 8 pro..
With the S20 ultra I find it hard at times to get proper focus on still objects, let alone moving objects or when taking videos. It's not hunting to focus, it's just not focusing on anything, just blurry until I tap on the screen a few times til it finally focuses. Doesn't happen all the time, but just enough that it's irritating. The S20+ may give you more consistent results.
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With the S20 ultra I find it hard at times to get proper focus on still objects, let alone moving objects or when taking videos. It's not hunting to focus, it's just not focusing on anything, just blurry until I tap on the screen a few times til it finally focuses. Doesn't happen all the time, but just enough that it's irritating. The S20+ may give you more consistent results.
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i don't having issues like that with my ultra...
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i don't having issues like that with my ultra...
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Great pictures, I can get those same results. But it's irritating that on my 3rd phone I still have situations where it just won't focus. A common issue that's been talked about everywhere. So at least I k ow I'm not the only one that has issues with this disaster of a camera.
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Great pictures, I can get those same results. But it's irritating that on my 3rd phone I still have situations where it just won't focus. A common issue that's been talked about everywhere. So at least I k ow I'm not the only one that has issues with this disaster of a camera.
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it's looks the exynos version is better with focus, so far everything is perfect for me day or night 4K or 8K, as they say, my fingers crossed:la victoire:
To get 5G or not depends actually on your area and how frequent you travel or change phones.
If your area already has 5G, go ahead, get a 5G phone (If it is compatible. Samsung's 5G support seems to vary with region.. Some supports only low and mid-band waves, some mmwave... some both.. )
Even if your area already has 5G, the coverage may not be very good yet with gaps in coverage. when this occurs, the phone will drain your battery trying to search for 5G.
Personally, i would hold off getting a 5G phone until the roll out is stable enough with reasonable coverage. or just switch off 5G and use 4G.
Regarding the plus or ultra, it depends on you. If you need the zoom capabilities, get the ultra. But take note, due to the physical camera lens limitation on the s20+ and ultra, at certain zoom levels the s20+ can take better photos.
To make it easier to understand, from the camera app there will be 3 icons (well at least for the S20+). these icons represent each len. For the s20+, it is the wide angle, main, and telephoto zoom lens. Using these 3 selection will give u the best image. If you pinch your finger on the screen (to zoom in further), you are using the digital zoom, which in most cases, doesnt yield the best photo.
the S20+ zoom lens is more suited to casual shoots. the S20 Ultra telephoto zoom is a bit unusual for casual shooting. most of the time you will be using the zoom range of the S20+ telephoto lens, thus for casual photo taking folks, the S20+ usually yield better result than the S20 Ultra.
S20+ works great, no issues with focus etc - highly recommend as user myself
I have the S20+5G Exynos and have no issues what so ever. I highly recommend getting it. I have been a Samsung user from the start.
Import the Snapdragon model if you can. Exynos and Snapdragon have different image processing and from what I've read, the general consensus is the Snapdragon image processing is better overall. Furthermore, battery life is better on Snapdragon, so Snapdragon would be a win-win for you.
Still kind of early, but anyone here upgrading form there note 10+ to the note 20? I usually like to keep my phones for 2 years, but the Samsung trade in makes the upgrade appealing. Share your thoughts! who will be upgrading or who will be rocking the note 10+
Here in Italy the value of the note10+ is just 330€ if you trade it in...
I think it's better to sell it privately
There is really nothing on the Note 10+ I find lacking. I think the only reason I could see upgrading would be for 5g, but I expect it to be years yet before that will make sense, even though I live in a large city that is already getting coverage. Even then, current speeds are perfectly fine for my needs, so it would be about coverage.
I will upgrade next year, among other reasons, I find the cam module of the note20 extraordinaily ugly, I hope they correct it for the 21 model
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There is really nothing on the Note 10+ I find lacking. I think the only reason I could see upgrading would be for 5g, but I expect it to be years yet before that will make sense, even though I live in a large city that is already getting coverage. Even then, current speeds are perfectly fine for my needs, so it would be about coverage.
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I think the same as you are, and 5G is the only thing that maybe the reason (not sure, the 100-megabyte/Sec I get now is pretty good.) The only thing the make me upgrade devices is the Samsung deal of a trade in. I got my Note10+ (USA) for $485 and returned a S9 so it was a no brainier..
I swapped a 9 for the 10+ as 5G was in my area, no reason to really go to a 20 and to be honest the "discount" you get returning the phone at a year through Samsung is pretty poor, was only about a £100 reduction last year when I returned my Note 9, I got more discount trading in an old S6 I had lying around to get the Note 9 through Samsung. sure it's nice to have the latest phone but you are basically paying 50% of the cost to keep it a year and then have nothing to show for your money.
I probably won`t I have the Note 10+ 5g already with ATT in USA , I originally had the s20 ultra 5g, and i had too many issues with the camera and the Note 20 looks fugly with the camera module. I`ll wait for next year.
I ***** and complain every year, but im all in to upgrade..lol
SM-N935F Note FE OREO
next year will upgrade due to better processor all over the world samsung will launch
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next year will upgrade due to better processor all over the world samsung will launch
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Yes! Next year processors will have amd graphics, I am eagerly waiting to see them!
I'll probably get the Note 20+ or Ultra edition as the standard is rumoured to only have 60hz & no LTPO...
Honestly I'll probably skip next year's as I don't have faith in first generation AMD graphics, it'll be a first for Samsung devices and I think it'll take a few iterations to iron out any issues.
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I'll probably get the Note 20+ or Ultra edition as the standard is rumoured to only have 60hz & no LTPO...
Honestly I'll probably skip next year's as I don't have faith in first generation AMD graphics, it'll be a first for Samsung devices and I think it'll take a few iterations to iron out any issues.
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I somewhat agree with you, but I expect the S21 to be the guinea pig for that matter…
Yeah to me the Galaxy S phones tend to be a test subject as the Note tends to come 6 months later with similar hardware just with the kinks worked out. so by the time the Note 21 comes out they will have had several months of in use testing done by the Galaxy S users to refine it for the Note users.
I def will be upgrading to the note 20. I love my note 10+. There is even a small window I might go for the fold 2.
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I will upgrade next year, among other reasons, I find the cam module of the note20 extraordinaily ugly, I hope they correct it for the 21 model
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IKR? Always been a fan of the Note, but the S20 and Note 20's camera is just fugly, no other way of saying it. And hell, it's not like it's that big an improvement over the Note 10's camera. Actually, in some cases I've seen, the 10 is wahaaay better. And the 100x times zoom isn't worth that bump - a gimmick that I'd use a few times... maybe.
I love my note 10+ the only real issue i dislike is the lack of headphone jack. Now I know that all smartphones are leaning towards this " trend" and I can buy and adapter, but I realy wish they would have included it
I hope they Not go with the trend !!! The trend is to make round corners phones, that looks like dildo. I Hate that ****! That's why i bougth 10+ 5g (an old phone from august 2019). One of the few with a square screen.
10+ 5g here. If you can imagine that some headphones does not work on my 10+... "does not recognise"... I have Oneodio Headphones Professional Studio Dynamic Stereo DJ. With OnePlus adapter usb type C to 3,5mm jack.
On my OnePlus 7 Pro sound was Awesome! On s20+ 5g (sold) sound horrible, but the headphones workt.
And of course i hope the Greed stops ! And the price will Not be 1500 Euro.
Did anyone switch from s21 ultra to this phone?
I currently have a Galaxy note 20. Before that I had every pixel and Nexus ever released.
I went to play with this phone at best buy and I just wasn't feeling it at all. I saw the s21 ultra for the first time and that felt way better all over. I wasn't even aware the s21 ultra has been out for awhile.
So how do previous Samsung owners feel about this phone?
Yes, I have moved from the s21U to the P6P. There's positives and negatives. For me, the s21U is truely premium, better display, heavier and it just feels better overall. But I prefer stock Android and the s21U was too heavy for me, the P6P is lighter and better in my pocket.
I have been enjoying so far. A couple of bugs need to be squashed. and yes I did prefer the matte black and the heft of the s21 ultra. Overall i missed my smart pixel features (call screen and voice recorder) and I have enjoyed how snappy this device is. let me know if you have any specific questions.
I moved from a Note 29 Ultra. Now a P2P and prefer stock android. Both good phones, just love being back on a Pixel.
Note 20 Ultra convert here too, also first pixel phone as I haven't gone with a "Google" phone since the Nexus 6p, so far so good though, idk yet if I'll miss my S-Pen or not.
I've said it many times in many recent threads but I hated my Samsung Note 10+. I was just waiting for Google to release a phone with at least 512 GB of storaGE, my wife and I used our Pixel 1's until a year and a half ago and I finally updated to the Note 10+ (I previously really liked my Galaxy S3). The hardware's great but the software sucks. I couldn't get reliable work (and personal) GMail and chat notifications. Sometimes I would get them hours after they were received. Sometimes my phone notified me after I had already seen and deleted the email via the computer. No problems like that on the P6P or the Pixel 1 before.
I like the fingerprint reader much better than that in the Note 10+ too. Much faster and reliable for me.
My wife and I are looking for S-pen type styluses to buy that we can hopefully reverse charge through our cases on the back of the phone, and mount somewhere on the phone as well.
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I've said it many times in many recent threads but I hated my Samsung Note 10+. I was just waiting for Google to release a phone with at least 512 GB of storaGE, my wife and I used our Pixel 1's until a year and a half ago and I finally updated to the Note 10+ (I previously really liked my Galaxy S3). The hardware's great but the software sucks. I couldn't get reliable work (and personal) GMail and chat notifications. Sometimes I would get them hours after they were received. Sometimes my phone notified me after I had already seen and deleted the email via the computer. No problems like that on the P6P or the Pixel 1 before.
I like the fingerprint reader much better than that in the Note 10+ too. Much faster and reliable for me.
My wife and I are looking for S-pen type styluses to buy that we can hopefully reverse charge through our cases on the back of the phone, and mount somewhere on the phone as well.
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That is the one thing I too can say, I did not like the 10+ on a software level either despite a few other hardware/modem quirks, and immediately used it as a trade in for the 512gb 20 Ultra once those orders opened. I've used almost every iteration of the Note, but the 5 is probably my favorite followed by the 20U if it had better software. Gone are the days where it was easy to unlock the bootloader and put AOSP or Cyanogen on what used to be superior Note hardware....and with as locked down as the 6 Pro feels, (AT&T version), it still feels more capable than the 20U because there is no TouchWiz...