hi,
I have Galaxy S20 Ultra since the pre-orders, Exynos 990 variant.
I am pissed of about the S20Ultra camera which is worse than even S20+ ..
I am planing to ditch it and get a S20+ (still Exynos variant due to EU constraints).
And I am getting all kind of review over the internet /youtube regarding which one is better and which one is not.
From what I understand 5G is almost not exiting as network and therefore 5G variant now is pointless. But the 5G phone hardware is still consuming battery, though..
So even if S20+ Exynos has 4500mha battery less than Ultra, it has only 4G and thinking better SoT /battery life to be..
P40 Pro lacks Google Play Services and even though you can install them, Google Photos not working and some notifications not showing.
And also from the past days seems that camera suffers from focus and blurry OIS..
So any suggestions and reviews are welcomed.
Thank you in advance.
stefanz08 said:
hi,
I have Galaxy S20 Ultra since the pre-orders, Exynos 990 variant.
I am pissed of about the S20Ultra camera which is worse than even S20+ ..
I am planing to ditch it and get a S20+ (still Exynos variant due to EU constraints).
And I am getting all kind of review over the internet /youtube regarding which one is better and which one is not.
From what I understand 5G is almost not exiting as network and therefore 5G variant now is pointless. But the 5G phone hardware is still consuming battery, though..
So even if S20+ Exynos has 4500mha battery less than Ultra, it has only 4G and thinking better SoT /battery life to be..
P40 Pro lacks Google Play Services and even though you can install them, Google Photos not working and some notifications not showing.
And also from the past days seems that camera suffers from focus and blurry OIS..
So any suggestions and reviews are welcomed.
Thank you in advance.
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Hi, the real question is : what do you want to do with your new phone that you can't do with your actual phone
filming for personal and business to be able to edit in final cut and take pictures for personal and business reasons at a proper quality.
oneplus 8 pro compared to s20ultra pictures at least were so sharp and clean.. and then i saw s20+ is better than oneplus 8 pro..
With the S20 ultra I find it hard at times to get proper focus on still objects, let alone moving objects or when taking videos. It's not hunting to focus, it's just not focusing on anything, just blurry until I tap on the screen a few times til it finally focuses. Doesn't happen all the time, but just enough that it's irritating. The S20+ may give you more consistent results.
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With the S20 ultra I find it hard at times to get proper focus on still objects, let alone moving objects or when taking videos. It's not hunting to focus, it's just not focusing on anything, just blurry until I tap on the screen a few times til it finally focuses. Doesn't happen all the time, but just enough that it's irritating. The S20+ may give you more consistent results.
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i don't having issues like that with my ultra...
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i don't having issues like that with my ultra...
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Great pictures, I can get those same results. But it's irritating that on my 3rd phone I still have situations where it just won't focus. A common issue that's been talked about everywhere. So at least I k ow I'm not the only one that has issues with this disaster of a camera.
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Great pictures, I can get those same results. But it's irritating that on my 3rd phone I still have situations where it just won't focus. A common issue that's been talked about everywhere. So at least I k ow I'm not the only one that has issues with this disaster of a camera.
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it's looks the exynos version is better with focus, so far everything is perfect for me day or night 4K or 8K, as they say, my fingers crossed:la victoire:
To get 5G or not depends actually on your area and how frequent you travel or change phones.
If your area already has 5G, go ahead, get a 5G phone (If it is compatible. Samsung's 5G support seems to vary with region.. Some supports only low and mid-band waves, some mmwave... some both.. )
Even if your area already has 5G, the coverage may not be very good yet with gaps in coverage. when this occurs, the phone will drain your battery trying to search for 5G.
Personally, i would hold off getting a 5G phone until the roll out is stable enough with reasonable coverage. or just switch off 5G and use 4G.
Regarding the plus or ultra, it depends on you. If you need the zoom capabilities, get the ultra. But take note, due to the physical camera lens limitation on the s20+ and ultra, at certain zoom levels the s20+ can take better photos.
To make it easier to understand, from the camera app there will be 3 icons (well at least for the S20+). these icons represent each len. For the s20+, it is the wide angle, main, and telephoto zoom lens. Using these 3 selection will give u the best image. If you pinch your finger on the screen (to zoom in further), you are using the digital zoom, which in most cases, doesnt yield the best photo.
the S20+ zoom lens is more suited to casual shoots. the S20 Ultra telephoto zoom is a bit unusual for casual shooting. most of the time you will be using the zoom range of the S20+ telephoto lens, thus for casual photo taking folks, the S20+ usually yield better result than the S20 Ultra.
S20+ works great, no issues with focus etc - highly recommend as user myself
I have the S20+5G Exynos and have no issues what so ever. I highly recommend getting it. I have been a Samsung user from the start.
Import the Snapdragon model if you can. Exynos and Snapdragon have different image processing and from what I've read, the general consensus is the Snapdragon image processing is better overall. Furthermore, battery life is better on Snapdragon, so Snapdragon would be a win-win for you.
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Hello all, having a dilemma here: I'm selling my Galaxy S8 on eBay and am now looking for a new phone.
I did some research and then found the S9 and OP6T and now cannot make up my mind, I simply don't know which one to get.
There's no comparisons on the internet really, so I thought I'd just ask you!
I know the S9 wouldn't be worth the upgrade coming from the S8 if it wasn't for Treble support.
At least that's what I think.
So the S9 is actually cheaper than the 6T atm, but I still need to have a few opinions on which device to get.
Are you guys enjoying your S9 or would you rather have the OnePlus now that it's out?
Would you recommend the S9 if you'd be using it for the next 4 years?
Thanks a lot in advance!
It really just depends on you. You want a better camera, IP68, no notch, headphone jack, much better speakers, better screen, a fingerprint scanner that actually works or maybe Samsung pay you get the S9. Since you've used an S8 already you already know what you're getting with TouchWiz so if you want a better software experience and value performance over all else than the 6T is your phone. But I'd honestly wait a bit before deciding since there have been a couple controversies surrounding the 6Ts touch latency
S9 6T
S9 the perfect phone.
6T the perfect gamer
I'd rather go with the SGS9 Exynos variant but that is just me. As I have heard nothing but bad things with regards to Qualcomm's Snapdragon series of SOCs.
James160103 said:
Hello all, having a dilemma here: I'm selling my Galaxy S8 on eBay and am now looking for a new phone.
I did some research and then found the S9 and OP6T and now cannot make up my mind, I simply don't know which one to get.
There's no comparisons on the internet really, so I thought I'd just ask you!
I know the S9 wouldn't be worth the upgrade coming from the S8 if it wasn't for Treble support.
At least that's what I think.
So the S9 is actually cheaper than the 6T atm, but I still need to have a few opinions on which device to get.
Are you guys enjoying your S9 or would you rather have the OnePlus now that it's out?
Would you recommend the S9 if you'd be using it for the next 4 years?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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I have the s9+ and I would say don't get either. Get the s9 snapdragon 845. I have the Exynos 9810 it isn't good.
The Exynos 9810 has such bad optimization it literally performs like last year's snapdragon 835. Geekbench doesnt truly reflect the peformance since in every other benchmark it peforms worse than the 845 and in real life.
A lot of people on XDA on the screen on time section of real life review are getting below 5 hours of SOT with the regular s9 with the exynos 9810 that's how bad it is. I have the s9+ I have gotten over 7hrs but with a lot of changes and making sure to monitor apps. It isn't fun. People with the snapdragon equipped s9 are getting really good battery life that is even as good as the s9+ Exynos.
The One plus 6t has no headphone jack and it's cameras sensor size is only 1.22um compared to even the s7,s8, s9 which have been 1.4um for a while now. Software can only take you so far. 6T is a nice phone but it isn't an upgrade in terms of screen, camera, audio. The software and the 845 are better and even the battery is good. But it doesn't out weigh it's over faults.
If the Camera and screen and no headphone jack isn't important to you then get the 6T. Otherwise find a way to import the snapdragon 845 equipped s9.
if you care about the camera and edge screen and you like touch wiz then go with the 9 ( the battery is poor i am getting 1:46- screen on time) from 7 the morning until 2 o'clock the noon 40 percent left ) the max screen on time I got is 3:24
if you care about speed, battery, new technology like the fingerprint in the display if want stock android then go with the op6t
ps for whatever reason my s9 is lagging sometimes with normal use like opening the camera on unlocking it with fingerprint sometimes the text of lock screen stays for a few minutes
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I have the s9+ and I would say don't get either. Get the s9 snapdragon 845. I have the Exynos 9810 it isn't good.
The Exynos 9810 has such bad optimization it literally performs like last year's snapdragon 835. Geekbench doesnt truly reflect the peformance since in every other benchmark it peforms worse than the 845 and in real life.
A lot of people on XDA on the screen on time section of real life review are getting below 5 hours of SOT with the regular s9 with the exynos 9810 that's how bad it is. I have the s9+ I have gotten over 7hrs but with a lot of changes and making sure to monitor apps. It isn't fun. People with the snapdragon equipped s9 are getting really good battery life that is even as good as the s9+ Exynos.
The One plus 6t has no headphone jack and it's cameras sensor size is only 1.22um compared to even the s7,s8, s9 which have been 1.4um for a while now. Software can only take you so far. 6T is a nice phone but it isn't an upgrade in terms of screen, camera, audio. The software and the 845 are better and even the battery is good. But it doesn't out weigh it's over faults.
If the Camera and screen and no headphone jack isn't important to you then get the 6T. Otherwise find a way to import the snapdragon 845 equipped s9.
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Thanks for your lengthy post! I agree, I would go for the Snapdragon if it was being sold here in Europe and had an unlockable boot loader. Not having the latter is a real deal breaker for me though.
I'm fine with TouchWiz but I want my phone to last for about 4 years which means installing a custom ROM later on.
I think I'll be getting the S9 now, thank you very much for your replies!
James160103 said:
Hello all, having a dilemma here: I'm selling my Galaxy S8 on eBay and am now looking for a new phone.
I did some research and then found the S9 and OP6T and now cannot make up my mind, I simply don't know which one to get.
There's no comparisons on the internet really, so I thought I'd just ask you!
I know the S9 wouldn't be worth the upgrade coming from the S8 if it wasn't for Treble support.
At least that's what I think.
So the S9 is actually cheaper than the 6T atm, but I still need to have a few opinions on which device to get.
Are you guys enjoying your S9 or would you rather have the OnePlus now that it's out?
Would you recommend the S9 if you'd be using it for the next 4 years?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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I'd recommend you navigate in both forums and check how many complaints there are about every device. You'll certainly notice that Oneplus 6(T) forum is full of complaints of annoying bugs here and there about hardware and software.
I personally just returned to S9 for the third try of adopting an OP6... the S9 is just perfect and the stereo speakers are simply otherworldly ! The camera also is far far ahead.
Anyone thinking of switching? interested to read people's opinions on this. I'm very tempted because I get no service on Tmobile at work so hopefully 5g solves it..but I. I not convinced yet I guess il wait until presentation on Feb 11th.
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Anyone thinking of switching? interested to read people's opinions on this. I'm very tempted because I get no service on Tmobile at work so hopefully 5g solves it..but I. I not convinced yet I guess il wait until presentation on Feb 11th.
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5G is still on hand 71 for T-mobile so if you have a Qualcomm US Note 10 plus and don't get service at work then 5G won't fix that issue yet.
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I was thinking of switching but then I saw the price.
So far only talk of Ultra 5g, if there is a Ultra without 5g and a lower price I'll consider it but right now as much as I want the camera I can't justify it 6 months after buying the N10+.
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If all the specs are true to current leaks then I will definitely upgrade from my Note 10+.I'm pretty stoked for a 16 gig 6.9 inch 120 hz. display and the 108mp. Camera combo.
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If all the specs are true to current leaks then I will definitely upgrade from my Note 10+.I'm pretty stoked for a 16 gig 6.9 inch 120 hz. display and the 108mp. Camera combo.
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The only turn off is When enabling 120Hz, it will set the display resolution to FHD+ / 2400×1080. I might just wait until the new note since the utilize the spen alot
idk yet, I'm waiting for a definite info on the new 3D Max fp sensor if they'd add it to the S20 or not, that's the only thing I don't like on my N10+. Other things to consider is saying goodbye to the s pen which I like a lot.
As for 5G? - am ok with LTE for now since it'll take some time(years?) for 5G to get a full implementation everywhere, right now it's just a promise for which we have to pay extra 'up front'.
Another pressing question is about that 108 mp, specifically: how will the image processing handle all that load, I hope they will make people happy with the results.
So, if not the Ultra model, for the sake of saving some bucks, what's good the S20+ brings? Right, a new SoC, 120Mhz(most of us will probably switch back to 60) and better then N10+ cameras – is that enough to get rid of N10+ and additionally shed an extra $500 - $600 for the trade? Me thinks not.
For better pics I'd rather buy the new Sony A6100(~$600)
Definitely will get the S20 Ultra....keeping my Note 10+
yup, i'll definitely be getting it. had the s10+, note 10+, note 10+ (star wars edition) and now the ultra once released. I get bored rather easily and always want the new hotness. and since the pixels have been letting me down lately, my only guilty pleasure are the Samsung phones. I hope there's a ceramic version like the s10+.
I am definitely going to get it - can't wait to see what the camera can do. From what I have read, while it is a 108 mega pixel cameara, the S20 ultra will combine pixels (four pixels) to help improve how much light is going to come in - I don't understand the specific workings of it all - but in the end, it sounds like it is going to be amazing. Camera, Big Battery, Huge Screen, no Bezels, it sounds like it has everything youi might want in a SmartPhone. Just a few weeks away, I can't wait.
I also like to get the best of the best when they come out like @chetly968. Kind of "oooh, shiny, me want!" situation but I'm not completely room over by the leaked specs. I know that it's a good upgrade to the S10/+/e range and the Note 10 range but it's like what @mzsquared said, are the upgrades worth the extra cost you'll have after trading in the Note 10+ 5G.
I'm going to watch the event and see what they say. It's usually the case that all the new upgrades in the S range get to the Note anyway in addition to extra upgrades.
It's a matter of do you want to wait, how do you use your Note 10+, do you use the S-Pen, would the experience be the same if you get the S20.
I gravitate towards the top phone on the Note range when it's launched, primarily because the Note range have more of a square body rather than the rounded corners on the S range.
I guess we'll see what they have in store for us next week.
Nope not getting it , It's not a upgrade from Note10 Plus to a S20 , basically it's a downgrade, so i won't downgrade, I'll wait for the Note11 or Note20 what ever they will call it. So for now I'll stay on my Note10 Plus, Also the Note10 Plus will still be better till i get the Note11 or Note20.
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I feel like I have no reason to switch really.
It's not like getting a hopefully much better camera is going to launch me a photography career.
I really don't see any benifit when this phone is already fast, modern, and super adequate for life.
Save the money, go on a trip, cause having the latest phone is not a measurement of living life.
The performance gains will be minimal. I won't be upgrading.
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No S Pen, no S20.
I will wait Microsoft Surface Duo! This is a good hybrid and a serious competitor for fold and note series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trNMtfm3w7g&feature=emb_logo
Reserved S20+ anyway, now I have a few days to actually think about buying it for real, will see...
My reasoning starts with the trade value, Samsung offers $700 for my N10+, most of the Swappa's listing are right now in mid $600's(not to mention the involved hustle), sad, but that's the reality of a free market. Maybe I could settle down now with this S20+(5G though the 5G 'grid' has not been built yet around where I live)
It'll probably still suck with that same ultrasonic fp sensor I guess, am getting used to it on my N10+.
Definitely keeping my N10+ until the N20+ or whatever they call it. 120hz screen only at 1080p according to MKBHD. At least thats what he said in his video.
S20 looks ugly to me with those non curved edges, not a significant upgrade from Note 10 plus imo
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that huge battery may not be as impressive as it sounds when its got to power all that.
also...some reports say ultra has a true optical zoom of 4x and others say 5x...either way i do believe the 10x hybrid optical as they call it will be optical level...seems the further digital zoom will be more useful than it sounds as it appears to have good stabilisation.
they did mention in reveal yesterday that a lot of the software improvements mentioned will come to the s10+ in updates.
also...you could buy two 65" lg ultra hd hdr smart tv's with freeview and satellite tuner built in for the price of s20 ultra*[https://b-static]*...and still have change
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Sorry if this offends or seems controversial, but I can't help but surmise that people considering buying the S20 don't really need a 'Note' device anyway.
For me, in my daily life, the 'S Pen' is indispensable. No matter the features offered by any other device, without the 'S Pen', it's just not complete.
Signing and translating documents, editing media, and even typing, with my large stubby fingers, are much more efficient on a 'Note', resulting in higher productivity.
The S20/+/Ultra, whilst very good devices, on paper at least, just can't cut it for me.
So, no thanks, will wait for the Note 20?, but even then, it would probably need to incorporate all under screen sensors. So, maybe no update till the Note 21.
There seems to be a numver of issues with the S20, and nothing has really tempted me to upgrade aside from this phone.
My phone is becoming useless though. It's very slow, has a terrible screen response, and the battery is shot. This phone has disappointed me more than any other Note, and I don't even use the S pen often.
I'm not waiting on the Note 20, so would you upgrade to the S20 from the Note 8?
My husband and I are discussing the options for which one, I'm probably going with the ultra so I can have the camera, but we will never have 5G anywhere we live so that part is useless.
Does BK package disabler or a similar program work with this phone? I know never being able to root the Note 8 drove me nuts.
Thoughts?
I have an unlocked note8 and bought the AT&T S20 plus.
For me, the answer is yes - it was worth it.
I debated a long time about the Ultra - I think both the plus and ultra models are wonderful.
"zoom" camera even on the regular S20 is objectively better than the Note8.
AprilAr said:
There seems to be a numver of issues with the S20, and nothing has really tempted me to upgrade aside from this phone.
My phone is becoming useless though. It's very slow, has a terrible screen response, and the battery is shot. This phone has disappointed me more than any other Note, and I don't even use the S pen often.
I'm not waiting on the Note 20, so would you upgrade to the S20 from the Note 8?
My husband and I are discussing the options for which one, I'm probably going with the ultra so I can have the camera, but we will never have 5G anywhere we live so that part is useless.
Does BK package disabler or a similar program work with this phone? I know never being able to root the Note 8 drove me nuts.
Thoughts?
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The Note20 will be better and faster than any S20 model.
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Upgraded from note 8 to S20
I myself upgraded from a Note 8 to an S20.
Mind you it is the S20 and not S20+ or ultra.
Both are exynos so my experience will be biased for exynos markets only.
1. Screen : Not much different in terms of screen quality but that refresh rate, IMO is the best thing for me as I can scroll endless pages of instagram and youtube and website scrolling is so amazing.
2. Camera : By far the biggest improvement from the Note 8 is the camera modules here.
I am not much into 8K gimmics but using the ultra wide, the Smooth 60 fps in both 4k and full hd are phenominal. Pictures come out very good.
3. Battery life : Using the 120hz leaves very little room for better battery life than the Note 8 but I am sure if in a pinch, dropping the screen refresh rate to 60 will easily give me a couple extra hours. So it will be good for those long road trips.
4. The best part , THE SMALL SIZE : Well, not really a small size at 6.2 inches. However, it is a huge difference between the huge note and this little handy yet powerful phone. The note 8 is roughly the size of s20+ and beleive me the note feels cluncky as hell now that I am used to the size of s20.
5. App opening speeds and basic day to day performance is far superior to that note.
Note: You may feel like the s20 heats up like crazy if used in continuation a lot or if some high end game is played for long, well I faced that problem a lot and I have already opened a thread in the discussion sections to talk with other owners about the problem. I found out that restoring from my note 8 using samsung switch was the biggest mistake I could do. I then cleaned the phone by doing a factory reset and set it up as a new device and I must say, I could not be any happier.
I would say go for the S20. You will not regret it.:fingers-crossed:
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Kunal
I have pre-ordered S20+(Exynos), but did not get the phone because of lockdown.. as now OnePlus 8 pro lunched. Please suggest me what should I do? Cancel the s20+ pre-order & go for the OnePlus 8pro or go for S20+? My priority is camera performance..
Do what YOU want to do!
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Do what YOU want to do!
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Need a phone that can take good pictures.. with dual SIM support.
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Need a phone that can take good pictures.. with dual SIM support.
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I sent back my s20+ and will try the oneplus pro 8 , however im from the uk so my version of the s20+ as the exynos one.
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I sent back my s20+ and will try the oneplus pro 8 , however im from the uk so my version of the s20+ as the exynos one.
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Please let me know your experience of OnePlus 8 Pro
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Please let me know your experience of OnePlus 8 Pro
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will be a few weeks away yet. On another note i dident find the camera to bad no autofocus issues and pictures looked nice ... but im no expert
S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that. I bought into the bs that my OnePlus 6 had nearly flagship camera quality when I bought it, it sure did not. That's how OnePlus is. Solid build quality, decent hardware, tiny battery, and flagship prices now. They're not the worst phones by any means but just about every major manufacturer's flagships are better.
S20+：The phone heats up a lot, apps crash, battery life is not whats advertised.We currently do not purchase One Plus 8 Pro
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S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that. I bought into the bs that my OnePlus 6 had nearly flagship camera quality when I bought it, it sure did not. That's how OnePlus is. Solid build quality, decent hardware, tiny battery, and flagship prices now. They're not the worst phones by any means but just about every major manufacturer's flagships are better.
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You are right but I was disappointed with the S10 camera and am very disappointed with the S20+ I am actually thinking of selling my S20+ to get the OP8 Pro. The hardware in the samsung is probably better but I am just not having their software choices.
I'd buy the 8 Pro in a heartbeat. Using the S20+ and I'm disappointed with the camera.
Definitely no for S20 series exynos.
This time Samsung screwed up the s20 series with exynos cpu. We are facing one or the other problems with their cumulative updates.
So for they are not able to resolve battery life, phone overheating.
Now I believe samsung have taken for granted their fan base.
They are under assumption, the huge fan base will just buy whatever they throw at us & keep waiting with hopes that next update may resolve the issue.
Very frustrating to use s20. (was supposed to get ultra, but knowing the camera issue I skip to get base variant S20. to realize even this also have many issue).
Intermittently even on longer ph calls the phone exceed 40 deg & becomes hard to hold on to ears.
Forget about playing games or making video. Now aim forced to use the phone with 60hz and power save mode, under fear it may catch fire. Hahahah.
Really sometimes with 120hz it becomes hot pan. Quickly got to refrain from using the phone.
I really don’t understand what they have made this out off.
Been using samsung device from past 5 years.
We buy the brand on release dates with trust & faith. If this is how they show credibility.
Definitely next time got to think twice to jump in.
For sure the sales fig will make them to realize their mistakes.
Both are crazy good phones. As good as oneplus is and I loved their phones up til theb7 pro, they have some quirks I can't get past. Biggest is DEEP SLEEP. Sometimes I would wake up and phone would be unresponsive. Had to force reboot. Samsunf never has those problems. One ui 2.1 makes the software fast fluid and completely usable. Im happy with my s20 plus. It ended up being cheaper than the onepkusnhere in the US when buying with a student discount.
I think a lot depends on where you’re from, if like me uk then the oneplus 8 pro is a no brainer. I’m sure I would have kept my Samsung had it not had the exynos chip in it.
for me the decision was made when I popped to shops in car I put a YouTube video on literly 5 minutes and the phone was thermal throttling 120hz > 30hz bearing in mind its only spring in uk .. so, it can only get worse
If only the p40 pro had google :/
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S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that.
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So the OnePlus 8 Pro camera is garbage because you have first-hand experience with it, right? Yeah ok.
I have a S20+ and I love it. However, if I needed a new phone now, I'd seriously consider the OPO 8 Pro or even the "regular" OPO 8. I haven't read reviews of the camera, but most people just need a camera to post to social media and share with friends, who will view the photos on another phone. Is the S20 / S20+ / Ultra worth the extra money? Probably not. However, Samsung is offering some great trade-in deals, which is why I traded in my Note 10. If Samsung hadn't offered me $700 towards the purchase of a S20+, I'd still be using my Note 10 and probably contemplating buying a OPO 8 right now.
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S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that. I bought into the bs that my OnePlus 6 had nearly flagship camera quality when I bought it, it sure did not. That's how OnePlus is. Solid build quality, decent hardware, tiny battery, and flagship prices now. They're not the worst phones by any means but just about every major manufacturer's flagships are better.
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I think a lot depends on where you’re from, if like me uk then the oneplus 8 pro is a no brainer. I’m sure I would have kept my Samsung had it not had the exynos chip in it.
If only the p40 pro had google :/
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I am about to eBay my S20+ for the same reasons. Love the form factor, hate the camera and Exynos shortcomings in the UK we even pay more for the inferior experience.
Have considered the P40 pro several times now, I'd mostly be totally ok with no google but it is the big exceptions like no Google Pay, banking apps and the inevitable constant faff to get other stuff working, such a shame, I'd order one immediately but for this. I have also considered more than once going back to a P30 pro, I'd still bank on the camera being better than the S20.
Re OnePlus at current prices I cannot see a reason to pick the standard 8 over the 7T Pro or even 7 Pro.
Op 7 Pro.
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So the OnePlus 8 Pro camera is garbage because you have first-hand experience with it, right? Yeah ok.
I have a S20+ and I love it. However, if I needed a new phone now, I'd seriously consider the OPO 8 Pro or even the "regular" OPO 8. I haven't read reviews of the camera, but most people just need a camera to post to social media and share with friends, who will view the photos on another phone. Is the S20 / S20+ / Ultra worth the extra money? Probably not. However, Samsung is offering some great trade-in deals, which is why I traded in my Note 10. If Samsung hadn't offered me $700 towards the purchase of a S20+, I'd still be using my Note 10 and probably contemplating buying a OPO 8 right now.
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And it winds up costing the same if you trade in because One+ is going to offer $400 tops for the Note 10 unfortunately.
I think I'm done with notches and punch holes. I want a full screen with no obstructions.
I'm OK with something that pops up as long as it doesn't mean the device has no IP rating.
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S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that. I bought into the bs that my OnePlus 6 had nearly flagship camera quality when I bought it, it sure did not. That's how OnePlus is. Solid build quality, decent hardware, tiny battery, and flagship prices now. They're not the worst phones by any means but just about every major manufacturer's flagships are better.
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Funny. Go look at the S20 forums and you will see it's not so great
maybe mi 10 pro ?
Easy. If you live in a country where you can only get the S20 Exynos variant? Go for OnePlus 8 Pro.
You live in a place where you can get the S20 Snapdragon? You ask yourself what you like best, a more stock Android experience or One UI? And then decide base on that.
Phones are pretty similar, comparing S20+ vs OnePlus 8 Pro. Both have 6.7" displays. Both 120hz. Both with great color reproduction, viewing angles and brightness. Memory and storage is great on both. Main camera is great on both, wide angle is mixed, telephoto is better on the S20+ but not by that much. Both have dual SIM but S20 has the option to one SIM and SDCard.
Phones are pretty similar on the spec sheet if buying the Snapdragon. Exynos is ****! I got one, overheats, battery don't last long enough and performance? Performance is AWFUL! Stutters here and there, and when it heats up? Phone caps at 60hz.
I've used the Pixel 6 Pro on and off since November. For the most part, it has been a very good phone, but after using the S22 Ultra for over 2 months now, I realize how much better the P6P could be. The 5G reception, the charging speeds, and overall stability of the Snapdragon S22 Ultra are vastly superior to the Pixel 6 Pro. To be fair, the P6P has a cleaner software experience, better camera in some respects, and better speakers, but the essentials are done better by the S22U. Like many of us, I had hoped that the P6P would have been the Samsung flagship with stock Android, but it's turning out to have similar problems as the Exynos chips, even down to running warm. There are promises for big things in the June or July update, but each update has brought new bugs. I'm considering just selling the P6P and seeing if the Pixel 7 Pro fixes anything.
The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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My girlfriend has the S21 Ultra, I have the P6P, andddd everyime I grab her phone I am surprised at how smooth it is. Every. Time.
I am getting pretty tired of having to borrow my wife's 22 when I need to make a phone call.
I had the s22ultra SD variant, sold it because if the crappy UI and micro stutters I experienced constantly. Regardless of the hardware, what good is it if the software is still in beta production.
A lot of gimmicky features like bixby, knox, etc.
Samsung has potential but they suck.
there is a 300$ difference between these two phones. the s22 ultra BETTER have the better experience.
I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
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I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
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Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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Most reliable radio hardware I've had. Never had service dropped.
I used to have to have Tasker automatically cycle airplane mode whenever service was lost on all my prior phones, which were all Qualcomm flagships.
Paz9 said:
Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
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That's something else too. While picture quality is pretty good, the picture taking experience falls behind.
Hopefully most of the issues addressed can be resolved or mitigated through software updates, I hope, also for my own sake.
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There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
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I agree with the signal reception. I have been working from home past 2 years, so I haven't had as much time to get frustrated, meaning using it while out and about. But this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned and finding out just how horrible it is as I start traveling more. I am just outside metro DC area and have a lot of experience with other phones plus friends and family. Why, just why couldn't they have stuck with a trusted chip? Verizon, fwiw. I will eventually switch to something non Google. Other parts work great, but they call it a smartphone, not a camera connection device.
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I agree with the signal reception...this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned...
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Did a software update solve the S20 problems? I did a quick search but not seeing that exact resolution. If that update in beta right now helps a lot they may save a customer here, but I am not upgrading to a future Pixel if they put a documented problem in this phone and the solution is to upgrade out of the problem.
I have owned both and they are both flawed.
I still have the S22U and ultimately it is IMO the better option. Yes the shutter lag is annoying and OneUI has it’s frustrations too but the flaws on the Pixel are bigger, FPS was a daily frustration (and the ultrasonic FPS on samsung is just better than all optical ones IMO) auto brightness was just dumb and as other have said the radio is weaker.
I am hopeful that lessons will have been learned with the Pixel 7
I have the vanilla S22, same with everyone says, it has micro stutter on the UI frequently, and the usual Samsung not able to capture moving objects. For those reasons, I am moving to Pixel 7 Pro this year.
To be fair, the P6 Pro is in another price league. You compare an Audi A5 to a BMW 7 (significant price difference). That still doesn't excuse, however, the especially weak reception quality and temperature problems (quick overheating under stress) on a P6 Pro. Basic features need to work, full stop. And Pixels struggle with that at times.