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Samsung Will Release the S8 and The Note 8 at the same time...?

Yesterday, I posted a message in this board about a theory i had...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...rry-note-8-t3490413/post70701827#post70701827
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Now, here's some news for the Note fans...
Today a Video was released of two cases prepared for the two upcoming Samsung Phone Models which will be released soon..
and Guess what?
The bigger case has an "S-Pen" Opening...
Video: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzbccI2ykLA"
Just sayin!
PS: Here's the theory I posted yesterday:
Theory based on Internet Rumors:
Rumors:
- Samsung is working on a S-Pen for the S Series... (you guys remember this one right?)
- There will be 2 S8. One normal screen, QHD, and another 4k.
- S8 won't be revealed next month. (not a rumor anymore).
Theory:
Around April or May, Samsung will reveal both the S8 and the Note 8 at the same time. The rumor about the S8 Edge with an S pen is in fact the Note 8 itself. There won't be any "bigger version of the S series anymore like the edge. It will be flagship and the Note. Which makes sense when you think of it since Samsung will abandon the flat screen, they don't need to separate the "Edge" series anymore. Why not just have one single event, less confusion, and have 1 S phone and 1 Note.
So this year we will get a Note way sooner. Around May or June, same time as the S8. That's why they postponed the S8 presentation.

Correction, both cases have an "s-pen opening". The s seris don't come with s-pens, it is just not the s series. So why would those be s-pen openings?
This is not a new rumour by the way, it has been speculated it is that but many then thought it is not.
I DO wish your theory was true and I will be over the moon if it is, but I don't think so. I think we will have a Note8 in December.

It could be true if Samsung would launch a phone with foldable screen this year.
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I don't understand why they just don't tell us their plans. At least a hint. The least they could do knowing many of us are waiting to upgrade. Honestly I don't think my phone will last long enough if they don't step up the pace with the Note8. And I don't think s8 will be worth the price compared to Huawei P10. If it is not a note, it may as well not be Samsung.

If they do somehow release them together then that for me is a no Brainer on the one I'd choose ?
AmyF, Sent from my Note 5

There is no way Samsung would ever make things that easy or put themselves on the line for possible new unresolved bugs so soon. If you want a note eight you better have fixed your own note seven yourself like the boss you are and get ready to sit tight for August / September release of the note 8 if not later. Unless you want to jump ship or use inferior hardware.

Galaxy S8 Plus will be my next badboy device...

galaxys said:
Galaxy S8 Plus will be my next badboy device...
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I wouldn't consider anything smaller than my Note 5 5.7" the s7edge is good (I have that thru tmobile and will jump it to the next phone) but the screens too small and I'm not thrilled about the angle of the curved screen
AmyF, Sent from my Note 5

amyf27 said:
I wouldn't consider anything smaller than my Note 5 5.7" the s7edge is good (I have that thru tmobile and will jump it to the next phone) but the screens too small and I'm not thrilled about the angle of the curved screen
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Yep, the S8 Plus 6.2 should work for me just fine! :good:

Note 10+ or Samsung Fold

I am currently using Samsung Galaxy S10 plus. Should I go ahead and buy Note 10 + or wait for Samsung fold?

Depends. Do you want the Fold, or do you want the N10+?

I want to upgrade my phone. Only Samsung Note 10 + is available in market which is better than my phone. Samsung fold is a new tech so is it worth waiting for fold price drop or purchase note 10+?

I always advice others this:
The note series is REALLY satisfactory for those who like an apreciate the features the S Pen provides, if the S Pen is not the MOST important feature for you to have, simply get something else , as you put it, the the S10+ or the fold would be good for you

That's like asking "should I get SUV or should I get 2 seater sports car" LOL. Fold won't be available until around 9/27 and should cost around $1800. Note 10+ is available now for around $1100. I already made the decision (as probably a lot of other people here) to buy N10+, because Fold won't have s-pen, which I use all the time and it's a new tech which already showed to be troublesome in the past. I'll wait to see if all problems are fixed and if much larger screen is compelling reason enough. Also hope for price to come down a little. At home and work I have computers, which I prefer to use over the phone no matter screen size and on the go where I use the phone the most (like driving for map guidance/traffic) larger screen may actually be too cumbersome. I can always sell N10+ and buy fold in the future and couple hundred resulting loss shouldn't be major concern, when you're spending $1800 on the phone.
BTW I agree with Winol, if you don't use s-pen much, there are so many other good phones to choose from, it's mind boggling.

Jmakhdoom said:
I want to upgrade my phone. Only Samsung Note 10 + is available in market which is better than my phone. Samsung fold is a new tech so is it worth waiting for fold price drop or purchase note 10+?
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The problem is, you're asking us what you should buy, and none of know what features are important to you. Only you know if it's worth it to you.
It's an impossible question to answer anyway since none of us have a Galaxy Fold.
Do some research, watch some YouTube videos, and decide which one interests you the most.

I think you should actually look at the other foldable phones. Huawei's version is actually a lot better in my opinion. Of course I'm not yet considering all their troubles with the US Gov't. But when I compared the 2, I really felt Samsung dropped the ball there.
With regards to new tech, and given the problems the first fold encountered recently, I would actually warn people from buying the Samsung fold. I previously bought the Note 7 which was recalled 2x. And it was such a hassle. I had to set up my phone 2x only to have it recalled. I sold my old phone too so I ended up without a phone. I had to settle with an LG phone at the time and replaced it when the Note 8 came out.

I would not buy first-gen new tech. Foldable devices will be crap the first few go-arounds most likely. Would not want to be a first adopter. The Note line is 9 years old now definitely very mature while the first Fold literally folded so badly they nixed it and are trying again 6 months later. Go with the Note 10+ or a similar device that is not first gen tech.

for me, first generation tech is always a BIG NO.
The 15 year old is dying for the 2000$+ new tech, but i controlled the sucker and got the Note 10+ and satisfied since i have tab s6 for the heavy stuff. best of both words (phones and tablets) and cost less than the fold

winol said:
I always advice others this:
The note series is REALLY satisfactory for those who like an apreciate the features the S Pen provides, if the S Pen is not the MOST important feature for you to have, simply get something else , as you put it, the the S10+ or the fold would be good for you
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Not so fast my friend!
The S-Pen is a big factor to consider. But there are others that you should take into consideration....
The 12GB of RAM is a huge upgrade. If you think the S10+ is fast, the Note10+ is that much faster with 50% more RAM!!!
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skinnytoo2 said:
Not so fast my friend!
The S-Pen is a big factor to consider. But there are others that you should take into consideration....
The 12GB of RAM is a huge upgrade. If you think the S10+ is fast, the Note10+ is that much faster with 50% more RAM!!!
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My S10+ had the same 12 gb of ram as my Note 10 does
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AeroSatan said:
My S10+ had the same 12 gb of ram as my Note 10 does
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Most people don't though. That was only on the 1TB model, right?

Note 10+ vs S20 Ultra 5G

Anyone thinking of switching? interested to read people's opinions on this. I'm very tempted because I get no service on Tmobile at work so hopefully 5g solves it..but I. I not convinced yet I guess il wait until presentation on Feb 11th.
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dboyrusky01 said:
Anyone thinking of switching? interested to read people's opinions on this. I'm very tempted because I get no service on Tmobile at work so hopefully 5g solves it..but I. I not convinced yet I guess il wait until presentation on Feb 11th.
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5G is still on hand 71 for T-mobile so if you have a Qualcomm US Note 10 plus and don't get service at work then 5G won't fix that issue yet.
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I was thinking of switching but then I saw the price.
So far only talk of Ultra 5g, if there is a Ultra without 5g and a lower price I'll consider it but right now as much as I want the camera I can't justify it 6 months after buying the N10+.
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If all the specs are true to current leaks then I will definitely upgrade from my Note 10+.I'm pretty stoked for a 16 gig 6.9 inch 120 hz. display and the 108mp. Camera combo.

JAMRZ69 said:
If all the specs are true to current leaks then I will definitely upgrade from my Note 10+.I'm pretty stoked for a 16 gig 6.9 inch 120 hz. display and the 108mp. Camera combo.
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The only turn off is When enabling 120Hz, it will set the display resolution to FHD+ / 2400×1080. I might just wait until the new note since the utilize the spen alot

idk yet, I'm waiting for a definite info on the new 3D Max fp sensor if they'd add it to the S20 or not, that's the only thing I don't like on my N10+. Other things to consider is saying goodbye to the s pen which I like a lot.
As for 5G? - am ok with LTE for now since it'll take some time(years?) for 5G to get a full implementation everywhere, right now it's just a promise for which we have to pay extra 'up front'.
Another pressing question is about that 108 mp, specifically: how will the image processing handle all that load, I hope they will make people happy with the results.
So, if not the Ultra model, for the sake of saving some bucks, what's good the S20+ brings? Right, a new SoC, 120Mhz(most of us will probably switch back to 60) and better then N10+ cameras – is that enough to get rid of N10+ and additionally shed an extra $500 - $600 for the trade? Me thinks not.
For better pics I'd rather buy the new Sony A6100(~$600)

Definitely will get the S20 Ultra....keeping my Note 10+

yup, i'll definitely be getting it. had the s10+, note 10+, note 10+ (star wars edition) and now the ultra once released. I get bored rather easily and always want the new hotness. and since the pixels have been letting me down lately, my only guilty pleasure are the Samsung phones. I hope there's a ceramic version like the s10+.

I am definitely going to get it - can't wait to see what the camera can do. From what I have read, while it is a 108 mega pixel cameara, the S20 ultra will combine pixels (four pixels) to help improve how much light is going to come in - I don't understand the specific workings of it all - but in the end, it sounds like it is going to be amazing. Camera, Big Battery, Huge Screen, no Bezels, it sounds like it has everything youi might want in a SmartPhone. Just a few weeks away, I can't wait.

I also like to get the best of the best when they come out like @chetly968. Kind of "oooh, shiny, me want!" situation but I'm not completely room over by the leaked specs. I know that it's a good upgrade to the S10/+/e range and the Note 10 range but it's like what @mzsquared said, are the upgrades worth the extra cost you'll have after trading in the Note 10+ 5G.
I'm going to watch the event and see what they say. It's usually the case that all the new upgrades in the S range get to the Note anyway in addition to extra upgrades.
It's a matter of do you want to wait, how do you use your Note 10+, do you use the S-Pen, would the experience be the same if you get the S20.
I gravitate towards the top phone on the Note range when it's launched, primarily because the Note range have more of a square body rather than the rounded corners on the S range.
I guess we'll see what they have in store for us next week.

Nope not getting it , It's not a upgrade from Note10 Plus to a S20 , basically it's a downgrade, so i won't downgrade, I'll wait for the Note11 or Note20 what ever they will call it. So for now I'll stay on my Note10 Plus, Also the Note10 Plus will still be better till i get the Note11 or Note20.
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I feel like I have no reason to switch really.
It's not like getting a hopefully much better camera is going to launch me a photography career.
I really don't see any benifit when this phone is already fast, modern, and super adequate for life.
Save the money, go on a trip, cause having the latest phone is not a measurement of living life.

The performance gains will be minimal. I won't be upgrading.
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No S Pen, no S20.

I will wait Microsoft Surface Duo! This is a good hybrid and a serious competitor for fold and note series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trNMtfm3w7g&feature=emb_logo

Reserved S20+ anyway, now I have a few days to actually think about buying it for real, will see...
My reasoning starts with the trade value, Samsung offers $700 for my N10+, most of the Swappa's listing are right now in mid $600's(not to mention the involved hustle), sad, but that's the reality of a free market. Maybe I could settle down now with this S20+(5G though the 5G 'grid' has not been built yet around where I live)
It'll probably still suck with that same ultrasonic fp sensor I guess, am getting used to it on my N10+.

Definitely keeping my N10+ until the N20+ or whatever they call it. 120hz screen only at 1080p according to MKBHD. At least thats what he said in his video.

S20 looks ugly to me with those non curved edges, not a significant upgrade from Note 10 plus imo
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that huge battery may not be as impressive as it sounds when its got to power all that.
also...some reports say ultra has a true optical zoom of 4x and others say 5x...either way i do believe the 10x hybrid optical as they call it will be optical level...seems the further digital zoom will be more useful than it sounds as it appears to have good stabilisation.
they did mention in reveal yesterday that a lot of the software improvements mentioned will come to the s10+ in updates.
also...you could buy two 65" lg ultra hd hdr smart tv's with freeview and satellite tuner built in for the price of s20 ultra*[https://b-static]*...and still have change
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Sorry if this offends or seems controversial, but I can't help but surmise that people considering buying the S20 don't really need a 'Note' device anyway.
For me, in my daily life, the 'S Pen' is indispensable. No matter the features offered by any other device, without the 'S Pen', it's just not complete.
Signing and translating documents, editing media, and even typing, with my large stubby fingers, are much more efficient on a 'Note', resulting in higher productivity.
The S20/+/Ultra, whilst very good devices, on paper at least, just can't cut it for me.
So, no thanks, will wait for the Note 20?, but even then, it would probably need to incorporate all under screen sensors. So, maybe no update till the Note 21.

S20+ or OnePlus 8 pro?

I have pre-ordered S20+(Exynos), but did not get the phone because of lockdown.. as now OnePlus 8 pro lunched. Please suggest me what should I do? Cancel the s20+ pre-order & go for the OnePlus 8pro or go for S20+? My priority is camera performance..

Do what YOU want to do!
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tdevaughn said:
Do what YOU want to do!
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Need a phone that can take good pictures.. with dual SIM support.

Sohag0910 said:
Need a phone that can take good pictures.. with dual SIM support.
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I sent back my s20+ and will try the oneplus pro 8 , however im from the uk so my version of the s20+ as the exynos one.

tonnytech said:
I sent back my s20+ and will try the oneplus pro 8 , however im from the uk so my version of the s20+ as the exynos one.
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Please let me know your experience of OnePlus 8 Pro

Sohag0910 said:
Please let me know your experience of OnePlus 8 Pro
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will be a few weeks away yet. On another note i dident find the camera to bad no autofocus issues and pictures looked nice ... but im no expert

S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that. I bought into the bs that my OnePlus 6 had nearly flagship camera quality when I bought it, it sure did not. That's how OnePlus is. Solid build quality, decent hardware, tiny battery, and flagship prices now. They're not the worst phones by any means but just about every major manufacturer's flagships are better.

S20+：The phone heats up a lot, apps crash, battery life is not whats advertised.We currently do not purchase One Plus 8 Pro

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S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that. I bought into the bs that my OnePlus 6 had nearly flagship camera quality when I bought it, it sure did not. That's how OnePlus is. Solid build quality, decent hardware, tiny battery, and flagship prices now. They're not the worst phones by any means but just about every major manufacturer's flagships are better.
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You are right but I was disappointed with the S10 camera and am very disappointed with the S20+ I am actually thinking of selling my S20+ to get the OP8 Pro. The hardware in the samsung is probably better but I am just not having their software choices.

I'd buy the 8 Pro in a heartbeat. Using the S20+ and I'm disappointed with the camera.

Definitely no for S20 series exynos.
This time Samsung screwed up the s20 series with exynos cpu. We are facing one or the other problems with their cumulative updates.
So for they are not able to resolve battery life, phone overheating.
Now I believe samsung have taken for granted their fan base.
They are under assumption, the huge fan base will just buy whatever they throw at us & keep waiting with hopes that next update may resolve the issue.
Very frustrating to use s20. (was supposed to get ultra, but knowing the camera issue I skip to get base variant S20. to realize even this also have many issue).
Intermittently even on longer ph calls the phone exceed 40 deg & becomes hard to hold on to ears.
Forget about playing games or making video. Now aim forced to use the phone with 60hz and power save mode, under fear it may catch fire. Hahahah.
Really sometimes with 120hz it becomes hot pan. Quickly got to refrain from using the phone.
I really don’t understand what they have made this out off.
Been using samsung device from past 5 years.
We buy the brand on release dates with trust & faith. If this is how they show credibility.
Definitely next time got to think twice to jump in.
For sure the sales fig will make them to realize their mistakes.

Both are crazy good phones. As good as oneplus is and I loved their phones up til theb7 pro, they have some quirks I can't get past. Biggest is DEEP SLEEP. Sometimes I would wake up and phone would be unresponsive. Had to force reboot. Samsunf never has those problems. One ui 2.1 makes the software fast fluid and completely usable. Im happy with my s20 plus. It ended up being cheaper than the onepkusnhere in the US when buying with a student discount.

I think a lot depends on where you’re from, if like me uk then the oneplus 8 pro is a no brainer. I’m sure I would have kept my Samsung had it not had the exynos chip in it.
for me the decision was made when I popped to shops in car I put a YouTube video on literly 5 minutes and the phone was thermal throttling 120hz > 30hz bearing in mind its only spring in uk .. so, it can only get worse
If only the p40 pro had google :/

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S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that.
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So the OnePlus 8 Pro camera is garbage because you have first-hand experience with it, right? Yeah ok.
I have a S20+ and I love it. However, if I needed a new phone now, I'd seriously consider the OPO 8 Pro or even the "regular" OPO 8. I haven't read reviews of the camera, but most people just need a camera to post to social media and share with friends, who will view the photos on another phone. Is the S20 / S20+ / Ultra worth the extra money? Probably not. However, Samsung is offering some great trade-in deals, which is why I traded in my Note 10. If Samsung hadn't offered me $700 towards the purchase of a S20+, I'd still be using my Note 10 and probably contemplating buying a OPO 8 right now.

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S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that. I bought into the bs that my OnePlus 6 had nearly flagship camera quality when I bought it, it sure did not. That's how OnePlus is. Solid build quality, decent hardware, tiny battery, and flagship prices now. They're not the worst phones by any means but just about every major manufacturer's flagships are better.
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tonnytech said:
I think a lot depends on where you’re from, if like me uk then the oneplus 8 pro is a no brainer. I’m sure I would have kept my Samsung had it not had the exynos chip in it.
If only the p40 pro had google :/
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I am about to eBay my S20+ for the same reasons. Love the form factor, hate the camera and Exynos shortcomings in the UK we even pay more for the inferior experience.
Have considered the P40 pro several times now, I'd mostly be totally ok with no google but it is the big exceptions like no Google Pay, banking apps and the inevitable constant faff to get other stuff working, such a shame, I'd order one immediately but for this. I have also considered more than once going back to a P30 pro, I'd still bank on the camera being better than the S20.
Re OnePlus at current prices I cannot see a reason to pick the standard 8 over the 7T Pro or even 7 Pro.

Op 7 Pro.

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So the OnePlus 8 Pro camera is garbage because you have first-hand experience with it, right? Yeah ok.
I have a S20+ and I love it. However, if I needed a new phone now, I'd seriously consider the OPO 8 Pro or even the "regular" OPO 8. I haven't read reviews of the camera, but most people just need a camera to post to social media and share with friends, who will view the photos on another phone. Is the S20 / S20+ / Ultra worth the extra money? Probably not. However, Samsung is offering some great trade-in deals, which is why I traded in my Note 10. If Samsung hadn't offered me $700 towards the purchase of a S20+, I'd still be using my Note 10 and probably contemplating buying a OPO 8 right now.
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And it winds up costing the same if you trade in because One+ is going to offer $400 tops for the Note 10 unfortunately.
I think I'm done with notches and punch holes. I want a full screen with no obstructions.
I'm OK with something that pops up as long as it doesn't mean the device has no IP rating.

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S20+ absolutely no question. OnePlus has been putting mediocre cameras in their phones and will likely never change that. I bought into the bs that my OnePlus 6 had nearly flagship camera quality when I bought it, it sure did not. That's how OnePlus is. Solid build quality, decent hardware, tiny battery, and flagship prices now. They're not the worst phones by any means but just about every major manufacturer's flagships are better.
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Funny. Go look at the S20 forums and you will see it's not so great

maybe mi 10 pro ?

Easy. If you live in a country where you can only get the S20 Exynos variant? Go for OnePlus 8 Pro.
You live in a place where you can get the S20 Snapdragon? You ask yourself what you like best, a more stock Android experience or One UI? And then decide base on that.
Phones are pretty similar, comparing S20+ vs OnePlus 8 Pro. Both have 6.7" displays. Both 120hz. Both with great color reproduction, viewing angles and brightness. Memory and storage is great on both. Main camera is great on both, wide angle is mixed, telephoto is better on the S20+ but not by that much. Both have dual SIM but S20 has the option to one SIM and SDCard.
Phones are pretty similar on the spec sheet if buying the Snapdragon. Exynos is ****! I got one, overheats, battery don't last long enough and performance? Performance is AWFUL! Stutters here and there, and when it heats up? Phone caps at 60hz.

Is buying a Note 10+ Exynos worth it in 2022?

I know the Exynos version gets a lot of hate but i plan on buying it so i can root and run custom roms.
Is it still a good phone?
I hate how skinny phones are now and the 10+ has the perfect size screen.
Big screen+custom roms sounds like a win for me.

PS. I don't use my phone for video games.

Yeah, still a good phone. If you're in the u.s you could buy Snapdragon U or U1 and pay a fee to get unlocked bootloader/root.
I personally bought the SM-N9750/ds at release so i could root it (U and U1 didn't have ability to be rooted then). But there are 0 roms for this model, so for rom flashing if you want Snapdragon you could do that, or the exynos....
Check the "bounty" thread for the U & U1 version if you're interested and can learn about the process/cost

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Yeah, still a good phone. If you're in the u.s you could buy Snapdragon U or U1 and pay a fee to get unlocked bootloader/root.
I personally bought the SM-N9750/ds at release so i could root it (U and U1 didn't have ability to be rooted then). But there are 0 roms for this model, so for rom flashing if you want Snapdragon you could do that, or the exynos....
Check the "bounty" thread for the U & U1 version if you're interested and can learn about the process/cost
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Thanks for the reply. I'm in the u.s. so the bounty thread is something I'll check out.

Hell yeah.
My oldest N10+ N975U is over 2.5 yo still running on Pie. Heavily used but looks and runs like new. The only repair was a battery replacement.
A bought a new N975U1running on Android 10 5 months ago... that's how much I like this gorgeous work horse of a phone.
The Snapdragon variants all have the copper phase vapor heat sinks. Get the 12gb ram variant, the 5G variant will probably eat more battery. Use Android 9 or 10, I wouldn't go any higher.
They will run very well stock if optimized... just saying. New factory sealed ones can still be found stateside both cpu's versions for about $800.

Thanks for the replies guys! I'm definitely buying one now.

The Beast vs S22 Ultra.

BEAST
Another reason i love the Note 10+ is i'm so tired of the rounded edge 19.5:9 ratio phones.

jaydm0thr3e said:
BEAST
Another reason i love the Note 10+ is i'm so tired of the rounded edge 19.5:9 ratio phones.
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Indeed. Don't want the retro CRT look
The 10+ more display vs bezel area too.
The S22U looks clunky side by side with the 10+.

For equivalent of USD$178, I just bought a used Exynos version here in Thailand. Minor crack bottom right corner (can't even be seen in dark mode). Slapped a UV glued tempered glass on it to make sure crack doesn't spread out. 12GB/512GB version. It's running great! Lasted 2 full days on LTE. I'm happy.

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The Beast vs S22 Ultra.
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Yup. Even at 60Hz the Note 10+ looks way better than the S22 "Ultra" LOL. That extra 4GB makes a big difference in the responsiveness of the UI.
The 10 series (S10* Note10*) are the last great Samsung phones to have ever been made. I own an S10+ Snappy and now a N10+ Exxy. I will hang on to both until they either die completely or 4G LTE becomes obsolete. I feel like as long as there are replacement batteries, I can keep these things running another 7 years!

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Yup. Even at 60Hz the Note 10+ looks way better than the S22 "Ultra" LOL. That extra 4GB makes a big difference in the responsiveness of the UI.
The 10 series (S10* Note10*) are the last great Samsung phones to have ever been made. I own an S10+ Snappy and now a N10+ Exxy. I will hang on to both until they either die completely or 4G LTE becomes obsolete. I feel like as long as there are replacement batteries, I can keep these things running another 7 years!
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The N10+ rocks. Not even close to tired of using it. A beautiful, powerful, well balanced Note.
4G should be around until at least the end of this decade. It's not separate from 5G but integrated into that protocol able to run side by side with it, 3G wasn't. Because of it's greater bandwidth, 4 LTE/HD support that 3G lacked as well better obstacle penetration/range/low bandwidth efficiency than 5G, 4G LTE will likely be around for the life of these phones.

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The N10+ rocks. Not even close to tired of using it. A beautiful, powerful, well balanced Note.
4G should be around until at least the end of this decade. It's not separate from 5G but integrated into that protocol able to run side by side with it, 3G wasn't. Because of it's greater bandwidth, 4 LTE/HD support that 3G lacked as well better obstacle penetration/range/low bandwidth efficiency than 5G, 4G LTE will likely be around for the life of these phones.
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Yes! I forgot to mention the light weight and thinness of the Note 10 as well. Everything about this phone rocks!

Since this got bumped..
Still loving my note 10+
I kinda wish I bought the exynos version so i could unlock the bootloader and put roms on it. But the snapdragon on Android 11 is super fast.