Probably been asked thousand times before but I want to get a samsung A7050FN specific answer to this query.
What features and functions would stop working once I unlock bootloader and root with the mentioned procedure on A70 thread?
This phone is near perfect for everyday driver except It needs some Titanium backup and viper4android along with few minor UI tweaks.
If some nice smartsian provide a list, I can peace fully proceed with rooting and bootloader unlocking
secure folder will stop working, also you will need to update your device with Odin.
Since Knox will be tripped, you won't be able to use "Knox features" like Secure Folder (there's 3rd party apps that do the same), Samsung Flox, Samsung Pay (if applicable), Samsung Pass, Samsung Health (there's a workaround for this one?). I've also read there could be problems with some apps like banking and Netflix. (Magisk hide root status feature is your friend) . If you're outside the EU tripping Knox will also void warranty.
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Since Knox will be tripped, you won't be able to use "Knox features" like Secure Folder (there's 3rd party apps that do the same), Samsung Flox, Samsung Pay (if applicable), Samsung Pass, Samsung Health (there's a workaround for this one?). I've also read there could be problems with some apps like banking and Netflix. (Magisk hide root status feature is your friend) . If you're outside the EU tripping Knox will also void warranty.
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Don't care about secure folder or Samsung pay or warranty or loosing ability to update OTA. I can use odin for that
Can samsung pass and health be bypassed via the technique of changing ro.xxxx.tima= 1 to 0 in build prop file?
Don't use Netflix so don't care. Nor use any banking apps
Would fingerprint, face unlock, ar emoji and other camera features and Samsung themes kepp working?
Once you are rooted and your bootloader is unlocked does your boot screen changes to show tripped knox etc?
I rooted my A705MN. Samsung health does not work for me after tima change to 0. I read somewhere that you would have to modify the apk somehow. Never looked into it too much. You can read about it here https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/guide-samsung-health-root-device-t3946881
I am bummed that about the secure folder. I used it a lot with my unrooted S8. You can modify the build.prop to pass the SafetyNet check to be able to use banking and Netflix apps again.
Edit: here is another place to read https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/how-to/guide-s-health-knox-0x1-t3843483
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Don't care about secure folder or Samsung pay or warranty or loosing ability to update OTA. I can use odin for that
Can samsung pass and health be bypassed via the technique of changing ro.xxxx.tima= 1 to 0 in build prop file?
Don't use Netflix so don't care. Nor use any banking apps
Would fingerprint, face unlock, ar emoji and other camera features and Samsung themes kepp working?
Once you are rooted and your bootloader is unlocked does your boot screen changes to show tripped knox etc?
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Samsung Pass uses biometrics to log-in and such, it won't work if the device is rooted. I don't know of any bypasses but I've found this https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/rooting-roms/samsung-pass-knox-tripped-devices-t3687977
I don't see why emoji and general camera features would stop working, they're not really security features, not that the stock camera is very useful. GCam is a better option for photography.
For now, I haven't rooted my device. From my understanding to enter a rooted state with Magisk you need to turn on your phone with a certain key combination, otherwise I don't think anything is displayed when the phone boots, why is that important?
banking? so like logging on to chase online app may not work if i unlock boot and root? that would be just dumb, i mean my nexus 6 was rooted and custom rom-ed and chase worked
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Samsung Pass uses biometrics to log-in and such, it won't work if the device is rooted. I don't know of any bypasses but I've found this https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/rooting-roms/samsung-pass-knox-tripped-devices-t3687977
I don't see why emoji and general camera features would stop working, they're not really security features, not that the stock camera is very useful. GCam is a better option for photography.
For now, I haven't rooted my device. From my understanding to enter a rooted state with Magisk you need to turn on your phone with a certain key combination, otherwise I don't think anything is displayed when the phone boots, why is that important?
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Our Samsung A70 is very finicky with root and unlocked bootloader. And the rooting method we use is not so very official and stable for us.
So we need to use a certain key combination to keep root and magisk app when rebooting phone.
You mentioned gcam. Which version and config file are you using?
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banking? so like logging on to chase online app may not work if i unlock boot and root? that would be just dumb, i mean my nexus 6 was rooted and custom rom-ed and chase worked
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Actually its a security feature.
Many banking and enterprise applications don't work if your bootloader is compromised and your system rooted. They believe that by rooting and gaining administrative status, any hacker can bypass banking app security thereby compromising consumer safety
cealaska said:
I rooted my A705MN. Samsung health does not work for me after tima change to 0. I read somewhere that you would have to modify the apk somehow. Never looked into it too much. You can read about it here https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/guide-samsung-health-root-device-t3946881
I am bummed that about the secure folder. I used it a lot with my unrooted S8. You can modify the build.prop to pass the SafetyNet check to be able to use banking and Netflix apps again.
Edit: here is another place to read https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/how-to/guide-s-health-knox-0x1-t3843483
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It's not like a70 has heart rate sensor and oximeter that I will. Be mad about Samsung health.
Still Samsung makes very stupid decision sometimes.
back to previous statement i NEVER have rooted my phone and then Chase app didnt work, so trying to see before bothering to try and root...EDIT...anyone here with rooted a70 and chase mobile app does it work? that and paypal
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It's not like a70 has heart rate sensor and oximeter that I will. Be mad about Samsung health.
Still Samsung makes very stupid decision sometimes.
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I never really used Samsung Health with my unrooted S8. Fingerprint reader does not work to unlock my rooted A70 on Q (Android 10). It accepts the fingerprint but does not unlock the phone. It goes into a loop where it locks the phone again even I press the fingerprint sensor. I hate the ultrasonic reader lol. Does not work with screen protectors to prevent it from being scratched.
Can't use private mode in Samsung Internet anymore A lot of the features from Samsung seems to be disabled after tripping Knox. I used to love Samsung but with rooting now is a pain in the neck. The build.prop is different than 9 which sucks because I liked "overclocking" kind of making the CPU use all cores, it is not there anymore in Q. I am not sure that the Net improvements hacks for the build prop works anymore. Internet connection does not seem to be as fast for me as 9 was. Edit: I am not sure why the hell we can't use them because it erases the phone when we unlock the bootloader. Even if we re-flash stock they will not work because efuse is already tripped.
back to previous statement i NEVER have rooted my phone and then Chase app didnt work, so trying to see before bothering to try and root...EDIT...anyone here with rooted a70 and chase mobile app does it work? that and paypal
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I am sorry I do not use those apps. You will have to edit your build.prop to get it to pass the SafetyCheck most likely. If Chase still does not work for you unrooted try contact their support and see if they can help you make it work. I am not liking rooted Q as much as rooted 9 was.
Okay so it means that t rooting and unlocking bootloader leads to Samsung secure folder, Samsung health, Samsung pay, secure login, banking apps and Netflix not working anymore.
Moreover specifically for A70, rebooting phone require specific key combination.
What about boot screen? Does it show any new text after rooting?
My note 4 after rooting shows kernal booting system or kernal booting recovery which is indication thst device has been tempered with.
I have a problem with the making phone calls after rooting. The sounds leak out as if it's on speaker (when it's not) and when on speaker it makes a very shape echo in the back ground.
P.S. havoc os
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I have a problem with the making phone calls after rooting. The sounds leak out as if it's on speaker (when it's not) and when on speaker it makes a very shape echo in the back ground.
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Turn off voice enhancement in call settings. Or noise reduction in call settings
These settings are known to cause echo or static noise issues during call.
Also try turning off any sound mods you may have done after rooting
Report this issue at hovac os thread. Maybe it's a known issue with that Rom
Headset and sound issues
fizzingbees said:
Turn off voice enhancement in call settings. Or noise reduction in call settings
These settings are known to cause echo or static noise issues during call.
Also try turning off any sound mods you may have done after rooting
Report this issue at hovac os thread. Maybe it's a known issue with that Rom
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Thanks for the reply but the issues is still the same any other adjustments to recommend ?
fizzingbees said:
Don't care about secure folder or Samsung pay or warranty or loosing ability to update OTA. I can use odin for that
Can samsung pass and health be bypassed via the technique of changing ro.xxxx.tima= 1 to 0 in build prop file?
Don't use Netflix so don't care. Nor use any banking apps
Would fingerprint, face unlock, ar emoji and other camera features and Samsung themes kepp working?
Once you are rooted and your bootloader is unlocked does your boot screen changes to show tripped knox etc?
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Our Samsung A70 is very finicky with root and unlocked bootloader. And the rooting method we use is not so very official and stable for us.
So we need to use a certain key combination to keep root and magisk app when rebooting phone.
You mentioned gcam. Which version and config file are you using?
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Sorry for the late reply. I'm using GCam version 7.3.018 by Urnx05 (v1.4) with the config file by dotsx, you can check the file in Telegram by joining the group from this link.
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Sorry for the late reply. I'm using GCam version 7.3.018 by Urnx05 (v1.4) with the config file by dotsx, you can check the file in Telegram by joining the group from this link.
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Can you kindly post direct link to gcam apk here along with config file as attachment
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Thanks for the reply but the issues is still the same any other adjustments to recommend ?
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Ask this question in havoc OS thread.
They can help you better than us
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Sorry for the late reply. I'm using GCam version 7.3.018 by Urnx05 (v1.4) with the config file by dotsx, you can check the file in Telegram by joining the group from this link.
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I found your version but the auxiliary cameras cause the app to crash.
How do you fix this. Any help
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Hi guys
It’s been awhile since I had a Samsung phone
Anyhow I remember that if you are rooting your phone I will not be able to go back to stock and keep receiving updates regularly and also the user will not be able to use any Samsung service since there is some security on the device board
I wonder if it’s still the situation in galaxy s21 series
thanks
Yes OTA updates will be disabled for the rooted device. But you can easily install them if you so wish without loosing root by temporarily removing root without rebooting the device. Follow this guide for full process.
As for the services, I didn't hear about a service that's disabled by rooting. But if it happens you can easily replace said services by downloading alternatives or using specific modules in magisk manager.
Thank you
I’m asking because if I will ever want to sell the device it will be impossible
sagiag said:
Thank you
I’m asking because if I will ever want to sell the device it will be impossible
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Not at all.
You can just do this:
Unroot.
Remove Samsung and google account.
Flash stock ROM [Optional, unless you flashed a custom ROM]
Lock the bootloader.
And that's it you can sell it as just lightly used.
I think you wouldn't be able to use Secure Folder after root.
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I think you wouldn't be able to use Secure Folder after root.
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Knox is disabled after rooting, similarly anything knox dependant will be disabled as well. I thought he meant some other services like samsung health or other bloatware.
Hello,
Yesterday, I successfully rooted my Samsung Galaxy S10+. But since I still had some questions about it, I went on and posted a thread here. User Spaceminer then pointed out that my original post was in the wrong subforum and linked me here. Naturally, I looked at some of the most popular posts in hopes to find answers to my questions. But what I found confused me more than it gave me answers.
Since 2014 with the Samsung Galaxy S5 I got used to rooting in order to disable bloatware, protect my data and customize my phone. I continued doing that with the S8+ until I recently got my hands on the S10. Now, my main reason for rooting are still the same; I want disable (not necessarily uninstall) bloatware, protect my privacy and customize my phone (such as changing the background of the dial when calling someone). But that thread made me wonder if it is even essential to root. I also found a similar post on reddit and most answers seem to agree that it is not necessary to root your phones.
Now, my situation is a bit different. For one, I already rooted my phone. Second, I don't care about warranty nor custom ROMs. But I do want to install a banking app. Also, it is a bit cumbersome to not only have to manually update your phone with every update but the booting requirements with the warning screen are also a bit annoying. So, my question is the following:
What are the advantages of rooting that are not possible without? I have 3 main concerns: Bloatware, Privacy and Customization.
The reason why I posted this in a separate threat is that I was not able to come to a definitive conclusion on my own and most discussion threads are over a year old. By now, the whole process of rooting and what is possible changed since then, so I want to get a more recent insight. I hope you can help me out.
With kind regards,
DasMalzbier
Tbh root is not needed, unless you want to use a custom rom. Most things are already in the android now.
Calyx os not make for samsung Galaxy series and 12 update also comes this year so i think rooting is unnecessary for s10 series
Root is 100%, absolutely necessary for using the phone. I cannot use any phone without it. Critical root-only capabilities:
full system backups (in twrp)
titanium backup
disable updates permanently (update ONLY when want to)
app freezers (app quarantine)
disable/remove bloatware
disable google play services/google play
automate/tasker
cf lumen
adblockers
wifi tether
busybox
superuser
ssh tunnel
update android to later version / install custom roms
optimize system
button mapper
custom theming / substratum
nav gestures
tidypanel
xposed
root explorer
app privacy customizations
3c all-in-one toolbox
more
Without root, the phone is unusable to me. I will never buy any phone without root capability. I am willing to go to different carriers just to get root on the device, or go to different manufacturers if root is blocked. For example, I will never buy a huawei device - they are locked.
I would like to say yes but I can't. the stock apps are very well designed.
The biggest concern is that custom Roms are released faster than modded apps.
For example I tried about ten GCAMs and all of them have a bug... and it becomes more complicated with Exynos.
OpenGcam is not worth samsung app.
Unable to get voice match to work.
Alarms that you can't set to a specific day with the google app.
And so on.
Root is useful when the manufacturer no longer updates the devices.
I regret having Root mine because I lost Samsung Pay and other things.
DemotionFR said:
I would like to say yes but I can't. the stock apps are very well designed.
The biggest concern is that custom Roms are released faster than modded apps.
For example I tried about ten GCAMs and all of them have a bug... and it becomes more complicated with Exynos.
OpenGcam is not worth samsung app.
Unable to get voice match to work.
Alarms that you can't set to a specific day with the google app.
And so on.
Root is useful when the manufacturer no longer updates the devices.
I regret having Root mine because I lost Samsung Pay and other things.
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The only one that would have any consequence of rooting is Samsung Pay.
xbt- said:
Root is 100%, absolutely necessary for using the phone. I cannot use any phone without it. Critical root-only capabilities:
full system backups (in twrp)
titanium backup
disable updates permanently (update ONLY when want to)
app freezers (app quarantine)
disable/remove bloatware
disable google play services/google play
automate/tasker
cf lumen
adblockers
wifi tether
busybox
superuser
ssh tunnel
update android to later version / install custom roms
optimize system
button mapper
custom theming / substratum
nav gestures
tidypanel
xposed
root explorer
app privacy customizations
3c all-in-one toolbox
more
Without root, the phone is unusable to me. I will never buy any phone without root capability. I am willing to go to different carriers just to get root on the device, or go to different manufacturers if root is blocked. For example, I will never buy a huawei device - they are locked.
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can you carrier /network unlock with the root >?
NickosD said:
Tbh root is not needed, unless you want to use a custom rom. Most things are already in the android now.
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No, even if you wanna use custom rom you don't need to root. Just pick the rom with the apps you want or just use the gapps packages you want, if want essential to work gapps then use pico or nano. If there is still something you want to remove and the romdoesn't allow, just use adb shell commands and thats it. Less issues with banks not working because of Magisk (root). I know Magisk has a feature to hide itself, change its name but depending on the app, the libs can be found and know that is Magisk, so for security purposes some apps don't work and some aren't even shown in the Google Play Store just because you rooted the device.
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maybe now the root is not needed but later down the road when your phone will get obsolete and newer android OS updates will be halted for S10+ then you'll be more attracted towards custom roms. Actually it is just personal preference.
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It's happening right now, I doubt S10+ will receive Android 13 and now just security and bug fix updates are being shipped by Samsung.
Haknor said:
It's happening right now, I doubt S10+ will receive Android 13 and now just security and bug fix updates are being shipped by Samsung.
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It won't get any new Android upgrades AFAIK.
But appart from tripping knox, what else do I lose if I unlock my bootloader? I read once, quite a while ago, that the battery is limited to 80% of its full capacity. Is that true?
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It won't get any new Android upgrades AFAIK.
But appart from tripping knox, what else do I lose if I unlock my bootloader? I read once, quite a while ago, that the battery is limited to 80% of its full capacity. Is that true?
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Depending on the version, you'll notice stock camera to be limited or not work as expected, secure folder, dual messenger either not working, it can trigger some banks or payment apps (especially if you root), no more ota updates (if you keep using stock rom), drm content can stop working, samsung pay, Play Store might limited the apps you see and so on... Not sure about the battery, for me unlocking the bootloader and switching to another rom made my battery last more than stock, but it depends on the rom, the device, it's not a rule of thumb.
Hello!
I will receive a oneplus 9 pro next week and wonder if i shall root it or not. I want to use titanium backup and a few other apps that need root permission, but i also dont want to loose widevine level 1 for netflix and amazon video in hd, want to use my banking app and mcdonalds app.
i havent followed the magisk/root discussion for maybe a year or two (used a unrooted stock phone), so i am not up to date how things are at the moment.
just to be clear, please can someone answer the following questions:
1.) is unlocking bootloader (no root afterwards) enough to loose widevine level 1? can level 1 be gained again when bootloader is locked again or is lost permanent (like triggering knox with samsung).
2.) any problems with mcdonalds app and magisk? google pay?
after reading to the internet on the subject totday, i get the impression that rooting nowadays causes more problems thn benefits, but maybe i get a wrong impression.
flotsch1 said:
Hello!
I will receive a oneplus 9 pro next week and wonder if i shall root it or not. I want to use titanium backup and a few other apps that need root permission, but i also dont want to loose widevine level 1 for netflix and amazon video in hd, want to use my banking app and mcdonalds app.
i havent followed the magisk/root discussion for maybe a year or two (used a unrooted stock phone), so i am not up to date how things are at the moment.
just to be clear, please can someone answer the following questions:
1.) is unlocking bootloader (no root afterwards) enough to loose widevine level 1? can level 1 be gained again when bootloader is locked again or is lost permanent (like triggering knox with samsung).
2.) any problems with mcdonalds app and magisk? google pay?
after reading to the internet on the subject totday, i get the impression that rooting nowadays causes more problems thn benefits, but maybe i get a wrong impression.
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Use the canary builds of Magisk, enable MagiskHide, and toggle the apps in question, and you're golden. Also, just to be sure, toggle it on for Google stuff like the Google app, Google Play Store, Google Play Services, Google Services Framework, Netflix, McDonald's, GPay, and any other banking or streaming subscription apps. Might want to have Magisk hide its self by changing the app name and signature as well.
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Use the canary builds of Magisk, enable MagiskHide, and toggle the apps in question, and you're golden. Also, just to be sure, toggle it on for Google stuff like the Google app, Google Play Store, Google Play Services, Google Services Framework, Netflix, McDonald's, GPay, and any other banking or streaming subscription apps. Might want to have Magisk hide its self by changing the app name and signature as well.
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thank you for the information.
so i will definitely not loose widevine l1 with unlocking bootloader and root?
to hide magisk itself (change name and signature), i just need to turn this option on in magisk and not need to do this in a manual way?
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thank you for the information.
so i will definitely not loose widevine l1 with unlocking bootloader and root?
to hide magisk itself (change name and signature), i just need to turn this option on in magisk and not need to do this in a manual way?
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Correct, by default it will change to a "default" app icon and rename itself to "Settings" but you can easily still tell it from the device's own system Settings app.
one last question.
following this root instruction https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-magisk-unlock-root-keep-root-oos-11-2-7-7.4252373/ , do i have to use the provided boot images? i feel safer to download the full ota from oneplus official site and extract payload.bin and then use payload dumper to get a boot.img.
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one last question.
following this root instruction https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-magisk-unlock-root-keep-root-oos-11-2-7-7.4252373/ , do i have to use the provided boot images? i feel safer to download the full ota from oneplus official site and extract payload.bin and then use payload dumper to get a boot.img.
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If you are leery of using someone else's boot.img, feel free to do that if you'd like. But regardless, be sure to boot the image, don't flash it. Booting it not only gives you the temporary root access to install Magisk yourself, but also ensures that the patched boot.img is actually valid.
v23 has a fix for SafetyNet API. It looks like that supersedes anything from the last canary/debug builds, so it's probably safe to stick with that. Everything else is the same, though.
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v23 has a fix for SafetyNet API. It looks like that supersedes anything from the last canary/debug builds, so it's probably safe to stick with that. Everything else is the same, though.
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V23?
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V23?
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Latest stable Magisk build. I'm saying you won't need to mess with canary/debug.
When you turn on hide then hide the app the in the settings then your allowed to do anything you like but also hide it in the menu of magisk then your all done don't flash to much crap and magisk hide module is not really finished yet for this device good luck
I rooted it the second i got it
And don't use canary builds of magisk only if you want to run your phone very unstable i recommend the stable version
thanks alot for the information.
i still hazzle to root. i had a oneplus 3 2 years ago and had magisk root/custom rom/twrp, but i also had issues on regular basis and spent alot of time on xda and with flashing. dont know if i want this again or just a phone that works.
and just to be sure:
in case i loose my widevine level 1 because of root or bootloader unlock: will it come back when locking bootloader again and/or unroot. or will it be level 3 forever?
Wildvine L1 is not always retained when unlocking the bootloader. If I unlock mine, I go to L3 every single time, but when I lock it back, I go back to L1. I've tested this 3 times and it happened all 3 times.
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thanks alot for the information.
i still hazzle to root. i had a oneplus 3 2 years ago and had magisk root/custom rom/twrp, but i also had issues on regular basis and spent alot of time on xda and with flashing. dont know if i want this again or just a phone that works.
and just to be sure:
in case i loose my widevine level 1 because of root or bootloader unlock: will it come back when locking bootloader again and/or unroot. or will it be level 3 forever?
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Well to be honest I never had that problem and i need to have my binance hidden as well and everything works well but with some games like slime hunter i really need to hide magisk it self too from the settings but when you do they everything will be working okay. And so far I have seen with magisk hide module what you can download is that there are no keys yet for using in op9p (could be changed didn't check it for a while now)
Can i enable camera2 api completely level 3. I know it's works with magisk but is magisk is safe to open camera2 api if any problem created what i will do then
I had already tried to enable the Camera2API with Magisk, even with modify system.prop. And it wasn't possible, also that if you want to use the Google Camera, it only works on Snapdragon processors.
ArmandoDrake said:
I had already tried to enable the Camera2API with Magisk, even with modify system.prop. And it wasn't possible, also that if you want to use the Google Camera, it only works on Snapdragon processors.
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Oh bro i have one more question when i open anything by root and i disable changes will be continued?
Rpex.pro said:
Oh bro i have one more question when i open anything by root and i disable changes will be continued?
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If you talk about making a modification such as modifying the system.prop. Those modifications are applied, if you disable the root, those changes are staying. There are certain and other external modifications that even with a reboot, makes the phone return to its normal state, as well as overclocking or other processes.
Also something you have to know is that, the Knox warranty is triggered when the phone is rooted (Otherwise, non-knox kernel loaded), So it won't let you use some Samsung apps like Secure Folder, Health and others, Not less for Samsung technical services, and it cannot be reset by factory.
ArmandoDrake said:
If you talk about making a modification such as modifying the system.prop. Those modifications are applied, if you disable the root, those changes are staying. There are certain and other external modifications that even with a reboot, makes the phone return to its normal state, as well as overclocking or other processes.
Also something you have to know is that, the Knox warranty is triggered when the phone is rooted (Otherwise, non-knox kernel loaded), So it won't let you use some Samsung apps like Secure Folder, Health and others, Not less for Samsung technical services, and it cannot be reset by factory.
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When knox will not works after root. I am using new samsung galaxy a22 so when i root for just cam to api or not?
Rpex.pro said:
When knox will not works after root. I am using new samsung galaxy a22 so when i root for just cam to api or not?
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Yes, the Knox warranty is avoid (triggered) after Root
And still, if you root your device for enable Camera2API by yourself, you can't because the Samsung Galaxy A22 has MediaTek processor and not Snapdragon, for to work.
(Please don't vote before reading the whole thread!)
I have recently acquired a second hand A52s, and I'm looking into rooting it as well as it's drawbacks.
The phone's Knox Warrany Bit is not triggered yet, so I'm looking for some advice on wheter I should cross the rooting Rubicon, or if going with an unrooted phone is sufficient for my threat model.
My percieved threats are as follows:
- Security: I want total security should anyone get a hold of my phone, even if they have advanced tools. I know in older android versions the whole partition could be encrypted so that no-one could access any of the data without the password if the phone was turned off. However in the current Android 13 I haven't found a way to do this.
- Privacy: I want some control over what information corporations are getting about me. I wouldn't consider going as far as to disable Google Play Services, but some level of control would be preferable.
- Anonymity: I want to be able to hide my identity occasionally. Tor will mostly take care of my needs, but having multiple cloned social media apps is desired too.
- Usability: I want to get rid of the useless bloatware Samsung and Google include in the stock android. Extending battery life would be preferable too. I also have a Samsung Galaxy Watch5 and I would like to use it's ECG feature.
From this arrises the question: Is rooting what I'm looking for? Will rooting negatively impact my security should anyone take my phone and plug it into a computer (can the bootloader be re-locked after rooting)? Are there any other drawbacks specific to this model that I should be aware of (camera, Samsung vendor apps, etc)?
cluckduck said:
- Security: I want total security should anyone get a hold of my phone, even if they have advanced tools. I know in older android versions the whole partition could be encrypted so that no-one could access any of the data without the password if the phone was turned off. However in the current Android 13 I haven't found a way to do this.
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Recent Android versions automatically encrypt your data partition, so doing it manually is kinda not needed.
cluckduck said:
- Privacy: I want some control over what information corporations are getting about me. I wouldn't consider going as far as to disable Google Play Services, but some level of control would be preferable.
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The latest Android version (13) has been getting better at limiting what access your apps get like location. I think by default all apps have no permissions until you manually give it to them so I think you should be good here.
cluckduck said:
- Anonymity: I want to be able to hide my identity occasionally. Tor will mostly take care of my needs, but having multiple cloned social media apps is desired too.
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Secure Folder is a good option to do this. It sandboxes an environment that has all accounts (including Google's) unlinked so I think this is a good option
cluckduck said:
- Usability: I want to get rid of the useless bloatware Samsung and Google include in the stock android. Extending battery life would be preferable too. I also have a Samsung Galaxy Watch5 and I would like to use it's ECG feature.
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You can debloat with adb commands without an issue
cluckduck said:
From this arrises the question: Is rooting what I'm looking for? Will rooting negatively impact my security should anyone take my phone and plug it into a computer (can the bootloader be re-locked after rooting)? Are there any other drawbacks specific to this model that I should be aware of (camera, Samsung vendor apps, etc)?
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You're covered with stock, no need to root imo.
What root apps are you going to use? I just root my alt phone for the sake of adblocking and revanced.
chocowilliam said:
What root apps are you going to use? I just root my alt phone for the sake of adblocking and revanced.
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I hadn't considered that those aren't an option without a rooted phone. I might consider rooting just for these.
No root ! Benefits are much under android native functionality at least on latest android OS . More then that is considerably sure to brake , bootloop , freeze etc the system , lack of system updates , loose garanty , not mentioning the bank payments which are blocked by the safety permissions . Long time ago on android 5...6...7 root was for fun and improvement the system apk and battery but now I don't see the point .... Regarding the tracking features , you can minimize this but not eliminate cause of Google policy
muppetz said:
No root ! Benefits are much under android native functionality at least on latest android OS . More then that is considerably sure to brake , bootloop , freeze etc the system , lack of system updates , loose garanty , not mentioning the bank payments which are blocked by the safety permissions . Long time ago on android 5...6...7 root was for fun and improvement the system apk and battery but now I don't see the point .... Regarding the tracking features , you can minimize this but not eliminate cause of Google policy
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Are you saying stock Android 13 won't receive OTA updates if it's rooted?
cluckduck said:
Are you saying stock Android 13 won't receive OTA updates if it's rooted?
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Is not a rule but certainly there are some problems with manually update especially under major updates where you need to flash stock.img , then stock.img patched and so on . Somehow Magisk is not perfect , modules installed also so all the process will lead to a broken phone (maybe) .