I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
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Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
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Same thoughts, except its not Oreo which has degraded the backup, but 8.1 specifically which totally ****ed it up.
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Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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Tell that to Apple.
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Tell that to Apple.
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Apple's reasoning of decreasing performance was to increase device battery longevity, not to increase sales of their next product. In fact, a dead battery which renders a phone unuseable is more likely going to present the idea of purchasing a new device versus someone who barely notices a slowdown in opening an app. I think it's more important to give a customer the option of calling emergency services through a slowdown phone versus a dead phone.
Their idea is great but implementation and transparency could have been better.
As a company, you don't give yourself premium status if you sell inferior products that easily get outdated.
TLDR: Apple products age very well, yet they still are able to empty shelves with their latest products.
I got my Pixel XL from Google as a replacement for a Nexus 6P last September. It came with Oreo 8.0.0* and I was thrilled with the battery life, especially after the dismal battery life of the 6P. After I updated to 8.1.0 in December, my battery now is at 30% at the end of an average day, instead of 50% with 8.0.0. I'm thinking of flashing back to the last versions of 8.0.0 and taking my chances with not having the security updates.
Has anyone flashed back? Can anyone think of a reason (besides the small security risk) that I wouldn't want to do this?
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Has anyone flashed back? Can anyone think of a reason (besides the small security risk) that I wouldn't want to do this?
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LoL of course I did. Went back to 8.0 after 8.1 December release and its pathetic battery backup. Funny thing is, after flashing back 8.0 the backup didn't increase, it was same bad as it was on 8.1. And it stayed the same for first 5-6 charging cycles too, however then I started to get better for the next charging cycles, I started to get the usual 5-6 hours of SoT, but then the January 8.1 update released and I flashed it, now my battery backup is average. 4 hours of SoT with adaptive brightness enabled, 5 hours with it disabled.
If you stay indoors most of the time then absolutely disable the awfully poorly implemented adaptive brightness on 8.1. That will help you gain some minutes of SoT for sure.
Poor battery backup, swiping issues, 8.1 is one hell of a stupid release really.
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
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LoL of course I did. Went back to 8.0 after 8.1 December release and its pathetic battery backup. Funny thing is, after flashing back 8.0 the backup didn't increase, it was same bad as it was on 8.1. And it stayed the same for first 5-6 charging cycles too, however then I started to get better for the next charging cycles, I started to get the usual 5-6 hours of SoT, but then the January 8.1 update released and I flashed it, now my battery backup is average. 4 hours of SoT with adaptive brightness enabled, 5 hours with it disabled.
If you stay indoors most of the time then absolutely disable the awfully poorly implemented adaptive brightness on 8.1. That will help you gain some minutes of SoT for sure.
Poor battery backup, swiping issues, 8.1 is one hell of a stupid release really.
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LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
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I think that google tried to put too many features at once WITHOUT tweaking the features for battery. They are not like apple and if they are, they are a lot less strict with it. I applied some root tweaks and got about 6 hrs of SOT, I am having the same problem after the update, but history says that google's releases slowly patch underlying issues
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LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
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Of course a company should make it a priority to make a profit as they are in the business to make money. They aren't running a charity after all. But in my opinion, it's wrong to believe that a company is trying to sell their next product by deliberately making their products bad/inferior. Why would someone purchase a product from a company that only lasts a year or two when you can go elsewhere for a reliable product?
In all my years with Android, (since the days of the G1) I've never experienced such great battery life. I'm using the pixel XL 128gb 8.1 Oreo. Some days I finish the day with almost 10 hours screen on time with heavy use. Best battery life I've EVER had on any platform
jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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Did any of you jokers even read what he said? He said 12 minutes SOT equals 4% battery. That's 5 hours SOT, in his estimation.
It is very likely that 4% battery in his statement is really 3% battery because his battery ticked down to a lower percent just after he noted the reading.
Now, 3% battery in 12 minutes of SOT is very normal for an optimized Pixel XL usage and medium screen brightness. That literally means 6 hours and 40 minutes of SOT. That is what anyone can get without going to extremes with optimizing battery usage.
The best I have ever gotten with Pixel XL was 6 minutes per 1% of battery or 10 hours SOT and that is just playing youtube videos on wifi with lowest brightness and nothing running in background.
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Of course a company should make it a priority to make a profit as they are in the business to make money. They aren't running a charity after all. But in my opinion, it's wrong to believe that a company is trying to sell their next product by deliberately making their products bad/inferior. Why would someone purchase a product from a company that only lasts a year or two when you can go elsewhere for a reliable product?
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Let us believe what we choose to, you don't need to worry about our beliefs LoL. This belief didn't come from some children story book either, but based on what's been happening of late, a judgement based on real life results.
Why would someone keep buying a company's products? That's not a bright question really, cause even after LG's G3, G4, G5, N5X etc. phones which all had hardware problems people still bought their next releases, and that's just one example out of many. I myself even after knowing, complaining that Google once ****ed up the battery backup of Pixel 2016s deliberately will look into their Pixel 3 whenever it releases, simply because money doesn't matter to me that much, and I'm not even anywhere near that rich.
That battery life sounds fine tbh.
Battery life when connected to mobile data is worse. As soon as i turn on data Google play services starts draining the battery. This doesn't happen when connected to WiFi. It's really annoying. I tried removing my Google account and adding it again, clearing cache etc. Nothing works.
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Battery life when connected to mobile data is worse. As soon as i turn on data Google play services starts draining the battery. This doesn't happen when connected to WiFi. It's really annoying. I tried removing my Google account and adding it again, clearing cache etc. Nothing works.
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I have a Pixel XL on January 8.1. I also have Magisk installed. I lose 2 - 3 % overnight. I can easily get 8 hours of sot. I usually don't use that much. I keep away from battery draining apps. Phone last all day. Best phone I ever had as far as battery consumption goes.
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I have a Pixel XL on January 8.1. I also have Magisk installed. I lose 2 - 3 % overnight. I can easily get 8 hours of sot. I usually don't use that much. I keep away from battery draining apps. Phone last all day. Best phone I ever had as far as battery consumption goes.
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8 hours SoT with 8.1, seems like a day dream for me.
My battery backup remains same, that is poor, still getting 4-5 hours SoT. A full hour less than what I used to get with 8.0. Device is around 8 months old.
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In all my years with Android, (since the days of the G1) I've never experienced such great battery life. I'm using the pixel XL 128gb 8.1 Oreo. Some days I finish the day with almost 10 hours screen on time with heavy use. Best battery life I've EVER had on any platform
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Thank you for sharing your experience. Can you please tell us which custom ROM and kernel did you flash? Also, what the health of your battery on AccuBattery? Thank You.
My Battery Life
jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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I have btw 6:30/7:30 hs of SoT and a day I had 8hs of SoT with netflix and 4g on and wifi too
Anyone that is running Android P DP 4, how is the battery life compared to Oreo? Since this is the final DP before the final release I expect it's probably pretty much final. I'm going to wait until final release to install it and I'm just wondering what to expect. Worse than Oreo? Same as Oreo? Better than Oreo?
4 hours SOT with 60 percent remaining. Mostly surfing and Twitter. About an hour of music playing via Bluetooth. I am happy, it's better than O, not huge better but significantly better.
I've been getting about 4 hours on a full charge to discharge. I noticed a significant drop from Security Patch December 2017 to February 2018. Every since then I've never seen above 5 hours. I used to get about 4-5 and still have 40% battery left. I didn't change anything or add any apps. Kinda stinks.
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I've been getting about 4 hours on a full charge to discharge. I noticed a significant drop from Security Patch December 2017 to February 2018. Every since then I've never seen above 5 hours. I used to get about 4-5 and still have 40% battery left. I didn't change anything or add any apps. Kinda stinks.
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Sounds like my experience but mine was with the February, March and April updates. I was hoping Android P would fix it.
You two need to FDR your phones. You can chase this forever and never find it.
Actually, I would just flash the full factory image, if you are unlocked.
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You two need to FDR your phones. You can chase this forever and never find it.
Actually, I would just flash the full factory image, if you are unlocked.
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Agree 100%:good:
My battery went down prob an hours worth of SOT since DP3. Holding out for the final one as I still make it through the day but not nearly as good as it was. Still frustrating that I drop 10% with only like 15 min of SOT to start the day
Hello XDA developers
I am very surprised to see that after installing one UI 2.0 the battery performance got the worst
I am getting 5 hours plus screen on time on one UI 2 beta while I got 7 hour plus screen on time on the one UI pie
The device care section is pretty disgusting it shows daily screen on time instead of the screen time from the last full charge
Pretty frustrated with this update
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Hello XDA developers
I am very surprised to see that after installing one UI 2.0 the battery performance got the worst
I am getting 5 hours plus screen on time on one UI 2 beta while I got 7 hour plus screen on time on the one UI pie
The device care section is pretty disgusting it shows daily screen on time instead of the screen time from the last full charge
Pretty frustrated with this update
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Well what do you expect from a BETA update? You should've just waited for the stable release.
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It is call beta.
We almost need a sticky for everytime a beta is released.
Downloading a beta and then being surprised that it isnt running perfect means you probably shouldn't be on it.
It's like taking an experimental drug and being surprised at unforeseen side effects.
Edit: Then again it's not like anyone would read it.
I don't agree with you and I don't know how you measure it since is not really clear if the new battery usage graph changes something. In my personal daily usage I've been surprised some days, getting more than 6 hours of screen in 30 hours since plugged. Most was on wifi, radio signal influence a lot specially if it's weak.
Anyway I noticed some drains that are typical of samsung software, some days just for using spotify for 2 hours on the buds the phone would lose 30% while others 5% checking it some times
does the phone or android 10 have to learn battery saving first i know some phones do. and it may be your apps anything can happen. just tell us what you have done to set it up and maybe we can help
gloege said:
does the phone or android 10 have to learn battery saving first i know some phones do. and it may be your apps anything can happen. just tell us what you have done to set it up and maybe we can help
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Yes, and battery life gets better after about the 3rd full charge so give it 4 days , and 3 over night charges , before it can be discussed. The latest beta is not bad , in terms of battery, and it is not better than Android 9. I am sure over time it will improve, and the stable release should be at least as good as pie.
Note from the moment the beta was flashed, statistics and predicted time to die where not given. Now that it does, it keeps saying that it will last less than a day (about 22-23 hours) and I have seen 1day+ prediction on pie , but over all it seem to be same SOT and same life of battery between charges, under same conditions and apps for my phone..
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Yes, and battery life gets better after about the 3rd full charge so give it 4 days , and 3 over night charges , before it can be discussed. The latest beta is not bad , in terms of battery, and it is not better than Android 9. I am sure over time it will improve, and the stable release should be at least as good as pie.
Note from the moment the beta was flashed, statistics and predicted time to die where not given. Now that it does, it keeps saying that it will last less than a day (about 22-23 hours) and I have seen 1day+ prediction on pie , but over all it seem to be same SOT and same life of battery between charges, under same conditions and apps for my phone..
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Oh well, over 1 day today..
Battery life is really better with the new update. They've done it well this time
So after nearly giving up in this phone after it being almost unusable between March -August ish... I found that the September update made it pretty good again...
And have had the October Security Update (and bug fixes it says) for a few days now, and I feel like this phone is back to how good it was when I first got it smoothness wise.
Liking it again, came so close to buying a pixel, but will save myself a few hundred quid and stay with this. I was also looking at putting on the Pixel Experience ROM, and may still do in the future, but the way the phone is now it feels fine as it is.
Anybody else think it has improved a lot the last 2 updates ?
I think it comes and goes. The other day I had a game stay in memory for over 4 hours despite using other apps, including a browser.
But the phone had only been running for a day at that point. It's generally closer to a week of uptime before things get really bad for me, but sometimes as short as 2 days.
If I reboot in the morning it's fine all day. I've been doing that a bit lately as a bit of pre-emptive maintenance...
These security updates will surely stop soon and then I'll jump onto a custom ROM. Or maybe get a Pixel 4a. But this phone is still fine when it's not killing apps randomly
Is it still running smooth at this time? Without restarting it?
I strongly disagree. My device still begs me to restart it after more than 24h of use.
No, laggy after about 10 hours of uptime.
I'm selling mine today. Shame about this, it was perfect phone for price. I will use Redmi S2 for now and buy Pixel 4a when prices drop.
With OOS11 , The highest SOT im getting is 6.5 hours
How is the battery life in Android 12 OB1 ?
There is a hope for a good battery life on Android 12?
My battery life is noticeably better on OB1. I was getting about 6-7 hours SOT, but so far on OB1 I'm consistently getting over 8.
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My battery life is noticeably better on OB1. I was getting about 6-7 hours SOT, but so far on OB1 I'm consistently getting over 8.
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It makes me want to update to OB1 lol..
But I heard lot of bugs there.. maybe when OB2 is out i'll upgrade
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It makes me want to update to OB1 lol..
But I heard lot of bugs there.. maybe when OB2 is out i'll upgrade
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I haven't run into any of the issues I've read about, but then I've only been on it for like 5 days so far. The only issue I've encountered is my 3rd party alarm app isn't working in the mornings, but that happens to me every single time a major Android update comes out and they change how they do process management. Probably just a new setting I haven't found yet, and the built-in clock app works fine until then.
Not all apps are compatible with Android 12 yet
Mine is very good.
But that depends on your usage. If you don't put the phone down, ever, no battery, no phone will ever be good.
Seems good enough me, but still watching it for a while....
6 hours 30 mins when the battery remaining was 3% with similar usage, it totally depend on the usage.
Much better than Android 11