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Galaxy Note II - Storage question

Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.

Exino said:
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
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Internal NAND is usually orders of magnitude faster. Also, it is less complicated to deal with when you dont have to play the "Which Partition To Use Today" game.

Its not worth getting anything over 16gb as long as you can expand with micro sd. If no external storage is available, that's the only reason to get a 32 or 64 variant.
Plus, that extra storage is WAY over priced. A 32gb micro sd card can be as low as 20 bucks if you shop around. A 64gb can be had for about 50 bucks, so paying an extra 150 for the 64 over the 16 is robbery.
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Eun-Hjzjined said:
Its not worth getting anything over 16gb as long as you can expand with micro sd. If no external storage is available, that's the only reason to get a 32 or 64 variant.
Plus, that extra storage is WAY over priced. A 32gb micro sd card can be as low as 20 bucks if you shop around. A 64gb can be had for about 50 bucks, so paying an extra 150 for the 64 over the 16 is robbery.
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Internal NAND will be faster, bar none, than any SD card on the market. Class 10 or not. Its not a rip off, and it very well could mean the difference between slow loading apps (if they reside on the SD card) and a lagless experience. Just letting you know.
If all you plan to store is media, then by all means go for the minimum and augment with an SD card, but it it NOT robbery to be given far faster storage. It is like the difference between an IDE drive and SATA. No comparison or contest when it comes to board-mounted NAND.

I appreciate all the responses so far. I'm thinking I might just get the 32 GB middle-ground in this case (which is what I did when I bought my to-be-replaced iPhone 4), and it's served me well enough. If the difference between 32 GB and 64 GB ends up being $50.00 I'll likely just pick up the larger one as, at least in Canada, it's a 3-year phone term, so, I might as well add as much life to it as I can up front.
I definitely agree with the NAND vs MSDHC performance. The reason I only question it is that I am, of course, thinking of only doing a media dump on the device. Now, I also plan on loading in direct Blu-ray to 720p files, so, I'm not sure of the performance marker there of pulling 720p content from a MSDHC to the device would be, but I can only imagine my performance would be better realised if I was pulling it direct off the NAND.
I guess it'll come down to price, more than anything. I am not heavy into doing large-media storage, so, I doubt there will be much going on where I really need to hit 128 GB of space, but, you know, having the option is nice, especially when travelling around. At least Samsung didn't decide to get foolish and only offer the internal NAND as options, MSDHC is definitely a very nice feature in a device that's intended to bridge the smartphone and tablet market.

...it will also come down to what AT&T offers!!!!
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Exino said:
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
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It's the same game that has been around for decades now regarding storage space and price. The price per unit of storage is always going down and your usage of said storage is always going up. One day you will be wondering how you lived with anything less than an Exabyte of space and laugh at those who paid $100 per terabyte. There are only relative usage profiles for the space and everyone's budget is also relative. For me, I will be rocking the 64GB variant with a 64GB micro SD card and claim 128GB in 2012... but you sir will have the last laugh at my expense

16gb internal with micro sd is better, so all game data will go to internal sd, while all your important file(pics,mp3,vids etc) in your micro sd(whatever size it is) much safer if something wrong happen to internal sd
32gb way to much, better having a large micro sd than internal sd
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If its anything like the S3 you wont be able to move apps to a sd card.

fr8cture said:
If its anything like the S3 you wont be able to move apps to a sd card.
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16gb wont enough?
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robyr said:
Internal NAND will be faster, bar none, than any SD card on the market. Class 10 or not. Its not a rip off, and it very well could mean the difference between slow loading apps (if they reside on the SD card) and a lagless experience. Just letting you know.
If all you plan to store is media, then by all means go for the minimum and augment with an SD card, but it it NOT robbery to be given far faster storage. It is like the difference between an IDE drive and SATA. No comparison or contest when it comes to board-mounted NAND.
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Sweeping comment, TROLLING?? I have seen many Micro SD cards from Sandisk reaching upto 100MBps despite being marketed as Class 10. This is VERY IRRESPONSIBLE comment as there is no holy grail engraved in your beloved "NAND" Flash. Its just a type of flash and doesn't dictate in terms of performance unless Samsung's hardware can not utilize the higher speed Micro SD cards.
One major benefit of having 64GB onboard would be Micro SD card will become more redundant if you live with that space for years. Also, you would have an opportunity to have upto 124GB or so when using 64GB Micro SD cards (I am optimistic though that these new phones may support even higher capacity 128GB or so MSD cards may be after some software tweaks by some of our dev gurus here).

rashid.fairus said:
16gb wont enough?
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Not for me. I ran out of storage already.
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Prankey said:
Its just a type of flash and doesn't dictate in terms of performance unless Samsung's hardware can not utilize the higher speed Micro SD cards.
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All card readers/writers have their throughput limits.
How fast the note 2's is is yet to be determined.
Has anyone determined the max write /read speed of the note 1?
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32gb or 16gb

Hey guys
I am considering getting the G3 and theres about £50 difference between 32 and 16gb version, is the 3gb/32gb actually worth it? Seen some tests and the difference was hardly noticable...anybody has any experience with both versions and could compare?
Thanks!

I don't have the link handy but a review was done with both versions, and the benchmarks were nearly the same. With microsd support, I'd see no reason just for another 1gb of ram personally.
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Every android phone I've ever had from 256kb to 2gb has eventually needed more memory. More memory means you can run more, cache more and be future proof. If your only keeping the phone for a year, then 2gb will probably be fine, if keeping for 2 years then I would get the 3gb version

Not exactly sure what 50 euros is in usd but if it's any where from 50-100 it's well worth it imo, especially since you get a sdcard & ram upgrade.
2gb ram has been the flagship standard for a while now, my HTC one gets pretty close to full ram usage at some points. More ram guarantees smooth performance for heavy usage as well as future proof specs, and don't forget the g3 has that qhd resolution and once higher (than 1080p) resolution videos become more common you'll be glad you went with the extra ram.

well the 16gb version, not sure what batch is it and where is it imported from(assuming Korea) goes for 1950 PLN = 373.8150 GBP according to google while the 32gb version which is imported from Korea goes for 2250 PLN = 431.3250 GBP so yeah not a big difference but still.
The thing is that I dont really play games on a mobile, most of the time I would just use it for browsing, mail, facebook, gps/maps, apps and camera damn, decisions decisions...

cez10 said:
well the 16gb version, not sure what batch is it and where is it imported from(assuming Korea) goes for 1950 PLN = 373.8150 GBP according to google while the 32gb version which is imported from Korea goes for 2250 PLN = 431.3250 GBP so yeah not a big difference but still.
The thing is that I dont really play games on a mobile, most of the time I would just use it for browsing, mail, facebook, gps/maps, apps and camera damn, decisions decisions...
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Well i never had the choice... Only 16gb was available in UK. I would defo spend another 50 quid to get extra storage... You're planning to spend a lot of money already so extra 300pln is not that bad isn't?
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Personally I would just save the money and buy the 16gb and get a massive SD Card instead. I doubt there is any noticeable difference in performance unless you have a gizillion apps open at the same time. In fact I remember reading an article where an LG employee says the phone is optimised to run on 2GB RAM.
The only reason I can think of to get the 32GB version is if you do not plan on getting an SD Card, then the extra storage is definately worth it. And maybe resale value will be higher...

szqnl said:
Personally I would just save the money and buy the 16gb and get a massive SD Card instead. I doubt there is any noticeable difference in performance unless you have a gizillion apps open at the same time. In fact I remember reading an article where an LG employee says the phone is optimised to run on 2GB RAM.
The only reason I can think of to get the 32GB version is if you do not plan on getting an SD Card, then the extra storage is definately worth it. And maybe resale value will be higher...
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I think the extra on board storage is, now, very important as, in the up to date google builds, moving app data to sd is very restricted.

bobsie41 said:
I think the extra on board storage is, now, very important as, in the up to date google builds, moving app data to sd is very restricted.
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Unless you root...
But even so, internal storage is better than SD card for many reason (ease of use, speed)
I picked the 32GB from Germany, very happy I did so.

Get the one with 3gb ram, I can't believe they are still releasing phones with 2gb ram.
I have a Z1 and since I started using a custom launcher whenever I have some apps open and press the home button the homescreen redraws and it's not nearly as quick as before.
Also some apps don't stay cached when I reopen them.
The G3 with its massive resolution should eat even more ram.
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I've just read a review here http://pclab.pl/art58419-7.html where they've tested the 2gb version and said it lags a lot, the CPU and GPU gets hot a lot, that it would be better if there was full HD than QHD, that the screen dims weirdly and that the screen gets this weird sharpening effect....
christ I dont know what to do :/ z2 is nice but it has a lot of issues, one's camera isnt good enough these days, g3 3gb is probably most future proof but the more I read about it the more doubts I get...

bobsie41 said:
I think the extra on board storage is, now, very important as, in the up to date google builds, moving app data to sd is very restricted.
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True, guess it depends on what you use your phone for. I don't do any gaming so the app data space isn't that large.
If the difference in price is ok then it makes sense to get the 32GB I suppose. Here in Singapore, only the 32GB version is available and only S$755 sim-free which is relatively cheap for a new flagship phone.
I'm still deciding whether to get this or the G2 which is only S$520 now!

I'm planning to buy the 32gb version. What I like to know is if the custom roms will be different or will they all be suitable for this version?

G3 the 16 or 32 GB
cez10 said:
Hey guys
I am considering getting the G3 and theres about £50 difference between 32 and 16gb version, is the 3gb/32gb actually worth it? Seen some tests and the difference was hardly noticable...anybody has any experience with both versions and could compare?
Thanks!
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Hi,
I have got both phones at the moment (Model D855) and I would strongly suggest you spend the the extra few bucks on tthe 32GB phone. Not as much for the ROM but for the RAM. Today I have installed the same apps on both phobes after rooting them and installing TWRP recovery and the difference is very obvious especially when having several apps open in the background. Although many phones could do perefctly with the amount of RAM the 16 GB model offers, I think there is a difference in this phonbes screen specs. This fabulous screen asks a lot of capacity which I think is the reason the 16 GB version gets very leggy. It's better if you reboot every now and then but I recon you'd get very anoyed at having to do that 3 times a day.
The price difference is big enough to go for the 16 GB version. You'll most prbably regret in a few months.

I have the 2 GB version no problem
Screen is good no heating problems
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I have the 16g d855 my phone now runs at 300mb free ram i bought it for 380 euro and the 32gb was for 500+ so the difference was big. So if you have that money go for 32 a test on youtube on benchmarking both versions shows that 32gb is 5-7% faster and the results proofs that.
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6GB or 8GB RAM?

Does anyone know the difference with performance on something with 6GB vs 8GB? Negligible you think?
I remember a side by side of the S8+ with 4GB vs 6GB.
I guess really for double the storage & an extra 2GB of RAM for $60 more, it's almost a no brainer.
However, i'm just trying to get an idea from those of you who know more about RAM in phones than I do to chime in.
I'm also guessing it's normal to bump the RAM every time you bump the storage. At least I am starting to see that in some newer phones, (don't see a 128GB 5T with 6GB) but not all. You don't see the Pixels like that (and still with 4GB).
Seems to be RAM is all over the place & I always thought cost was the factor, but if OP can do 6GB & 8GB it doesn't appear to be that.

well, in my opinion, 6GB of RAM is more than enough for the average user. but if you're really really looking for performance, pick the 8GB version, obviously.

why they even have a model with 6gb/64gb.

I've seen a few comparisons of both version of the OnePlus 5. The device with 8GB of RAM was able to keep many more apps in memory (obviously). This led to much fewer app redraws.

I chose the 8GB option, because I want this phone to last me 2 years, and I am thinking about what may be needed for Android P and Android Q updates/ROMs in the future

The 8GB is for "power" users who cycle through a lot of apps
128 GB is for people who have a lot of apps and record a lot of video/need to store a lot of data
This is what the head of OnePlus marketing said in an interview. I don't think the 8GB is meant for future-proofing the phone
As explained in the interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4_zhRWHwk4

the_reckoner1_1 said:
The 8GB is for "power" users who cycle through a lot of apps
128 GB is for people who have a lot of apps and record a lot of video/need to store a lot of data
This is what the head of OnePlus marketing said in an interview. I don't think the 8GB is meant for future-proofing the phone
As explained in the interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4_zhRWHwk4
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I did see that interview. I know the intention is for power users, but it is my personal view that 8GBs will serve me better in the future, than 6GB.
I intend to use the phone for 2 years at least, and so if official updates stop after a year and a bit, I have the option to install a custom rom.

i'll go for the 64GB one, i currenlty have the OPO sandstone 64gb, and never handled to fill it. Also i dont really feel like 8gb ram are usefull atm...

8GB for me.

It's really 64gb vs 128 gb. 6 gb of ram is plenty. 8gb is for bragging rights only.
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barondebxl said:
It's really 64gb vs 128 gb. 6 gb of ram is plenty. 8gb is for bragging rights only.
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When the two were tested (side-by-side OnePlus 5), the 8GB model, naturally was able to keep many more apps in memory. Don't know if I would consider that bragging rights, but I would consider it better.

8GB is a gimmick, but hey, if you want it, the option is there lol.

Baldilocks said:
When the two were tested (side-by-side OnePlus 5), the 8GB model, naturally was able to keep many more apps in memory. Don't know if I would consider that bragging rights, but I would consider it better.
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Of course it's better. But is it that much better? I don't think so. I think the storage difference is more of a difference than the ram.
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barondebxl said:
Of course it's better. But is it that much better? I don't think so. I think the storage difference is more of a difference than the ram.
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I ordered the 8GB 128. Figured the storage was worth the $60 & the 2GB extra RAM was a bonus. Don't know if there will be any noticeable differences, but I don't care that much.
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quickstang said:
I ordered the 8GB 128. Figured the storage was worth the $60 & the 2GB extra RAM was a bonus. Don't know if there will be any noticeable differences, but I don't care that much.
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Totally agree. For $60 you get double the storage and 2 gb of extra ram, why not. I just think those of us who go 6GB of ram will be just fine.
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daniel-t said:
I chose the 8GB option, because I want this phone to last me 2 years, and I am thinking about what may be needed for Android P and Android Q updates/ROMs in the future
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I feel the same way..can't wait til it gets here, ordered first thing this morning!

8gb for bragging right

dkotoric said:
8gb for bragging right
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I rather brag about the pricing of the 5T =P

I went with the 8GB/128GB model because the 4GB/64GB of the S8+ Dual Sim was a deal breaker for me. I currently have 2 Samsung S6's with 64GB storage. I needed all that space to hold all the data imported from the 2 phones and have the dual sim functionality. If the S8+ DS had a 128GB variant, I would've considered purchasing that instead.

If like myself you have several play lists, root, rom, keep nandroids and titanium backups, and video its 128GB.

How much difference does having 8GB ram instead of 6GB ram make

I have a Mate 10 with 6GB ram. I find it to be quite responsive. I had 12 aps in recents and still have about 3 GB ram free. So where would folks see improvement in performance on a Mate 20 X with 8 GB ramq. With gaming (which I don't do much of)? Does the camera's AI take up a lot of memory? Is more memory taken up by OS on Mate 20 X so there is less free space? Appreciate people's thought on this before I decide on which Mate 20 X to pick. Thanks!

My understanding is that, as good as it sounds, ram in current phone flagships far exceeds need.

There are some tests on Youtube and there is not really a difference.
The 8GB Oneplus 6T is even slower mostly and has a lower benchmark score in this video then the Mate 20 Pro 6GB (almost same specs like Mate 20 X)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm6Eq0pa0Xs

Sebring5 said:
My understanding is that, as good as it sounds, ram in current phone flagships far exceeds need.
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WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
There are some tests on Youtube and there is not really a difference.
The 8GB Oneplus 6T is even slower mostly and has a lower benchmark score in this video then the Mate 20 Pro 6GB (almost same specs like Mate 20 X)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm6Eq0pa0Xs
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Well, seems to make sense. I've seen the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 is available with 10GB ram! Comes in handy I guess....
Just checked my storage on my phone and with sdcard I'm using 160GB. So the other thing about getting tbe 8GB is it has 256GB storage so I could, in principle avoid buying Huawei's nanocard.

mscion said:
Well, seems to make sense. I've seen the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 is available with 10GB ram! Comes in handy I guess....
Just checked my storage on my phone and with sdcard I'm using 160GB. So the other thing about getting tbe 8GB is it has 256GB storage so I could, in principle avoid buying Huawei's nanocard.
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Exactly given the current pricing of those cards. Makes sense to get more RAM and storage.

Pretty sure 6gb, 8gb, and 10gb are mostly gimmicks to sell the phone. As new android versions come out, things get more efficient not more bloated generally. Its too bad manufacturers didn't put the money into more storage.

The primary reason for the memory isnt for everyday use. The extra memory is for game play. On a everyday usage its not going to make any difference unless you keep every app open and dont close anything. But the primary reason for the 6GB or 8GB is primarily for games so there is less hiccups during play. Because as games get more sophisticated they use more memory.

how about the battery drain between 6gb/128gb and 8gb/256gb ? does it make any diffrence?

Rasetsunoken said:
how about the battery drain between 6gb/128gb and 8gb/256gb ? does it make any diffrence?
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Its based on usage, size doesnt matter on battery drainage.

The 6gb or 8gb of ram makes no difference.

AngelDeath said:
Its based on usage, size doesnt matter on battery drainage.
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ooo i see thanks.. :good:
because mine the battery drains rather fast compare with p20 pro
one more thing it is the same between 6gb and 8gb when turn off phone , connect the charger and then it will boot up by it self ? cannot charge in off state like p20 pro?

Rasetsunoken said:
ooo i see thanks.. :good:
because mine the battery drains rather fast compare with p20 pro
one more thing it is the same between 6gb and 8gb when turn off phone , connect the charger and then it will boot up by it self ? cannot charge in off state like p20 pro?
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You can, you have to turn the off back off, its the same thing as an iPhone, as soon as aniPhone has 5% battery it turns itself on, same thing, if you want it to remain off then you either have to plug it in while the phone is on and then turn it off, or if already off and you plug it in and it turns on, then you will have to turn it off. I know its annoying but thats how it is.

Question S22 128GB - how much free strorage is on new phone and how long 4K movie it can take?

Hello,
I wonder what version to buy - 128 or 256 GB, more is better, I know, but budget is not flexible ;-)
Is 128GB ok if I am going to get about 2 hours of 4K movie?
Will filling the storage with data make the phone slow?
Greetings!

Neither. 128gb isn't much space. 256 isn't either especially with no expandable storage.
Leaves no room for growth.
Not having a SD card slot is a major liability and wastes your time, battery and makes reloading much slower and difficult.

Thanks for the answer and for your time, although it is quite possible that this was a bit of a wasted time as there are no references to the questions of my post. But perhaps my question has not been very precise. Well, my point is that someone who has the phone model mentioned in the topic, wrote how much really free memory is available for data storage (because the system usually takes part of the pool).
The second question concerned the requirements of 4K movies, theoretically it is 70 Mbps, i.e. about 30 GB per hour of movie, which theoretically gives over 3 hours of recording on this phone (depends on the answer of previous question). It's even too much for me, especially since you can rip everything to the cloud at the end of the day. Nevertheless, the opinion of a practitioner would be very valuable to me.
Regards!

You'll suck up 128gb before you know it not including 4k recordings. With a relatively light load I'm using at least 60gb* of internal on my N10+. The lowest I would go is 256gb. That's not all that much.
Something with a SD card slot would work better. A V30 rated card can stream 4k vids.
*critical data, media, docs aren't on internal memory; the 60gb initially is just apps, DCIM and download folders. It quickly increases in size from there though.

Well... N10+ is not I am asking about...
Please, anybody with S22 kindly to check?

If anything scoped storage based apps will require more memory than my non scoped storage ones. You will be running mandatory scoped storage. I run Android 9 and 10, no scoped storage. So there's that.
128gb be cutting it tight... you want to have at least 20gb free at all times. Otherwise you'll end up playing stupid games.