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32gb or 16gb

Hey guys
I am considering getting the G3 and theres about £50 difference between 32 and 16gb version, is the 3gb/32gb actually worth it? Seen some tests and the difference was hardly noticable...anybody has any experience with both versions and could compare?
Thanks!

I don't have the link handy but a review was done with both versions, and the benchmarks were nearly the same. With microsd support, I'd see no reason just for another 1gb of ram personally.
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Every android phone I've ever had from 256kb to 2gb has eventually needed more memory. More memory means you can run more, cache more and be future proof. If your only keeping the phone for a year, then 2gb will probably be fine, if keeping for 2 years then I would get the 3gb version

Not exactly sure what 50 euros is in usd but if it's any where from 50-100 it's well worth it imo, especially since you get a sdcard & ram upgrade.
2gb ram has been the flagship standard for a while now, my HTC one gets pretty close to full ram usage at some points. More ram guarantees smooth performance for heavy usage as well as future proof specs, and don't forget the g3 has that qhd resolution and once higher (than 1080p) resolution videos become more common you'll be glad you went with the extra ram.

well the 16gb version, not sure what batch is it and where is it imported from(assuming Korea) goes for 1950 PLN = 373.8150 GBP according to google while the 32gb version which is imported from Korea goes for 2250 PLN = 431.3250 GBP so yeah not a big difference but still.
The thing is that I dont really play games on a mobile, most of the time I would just use it for browsing, mail, facebook, gps/maps, apps and camera damn, decisions decisions...

cez10 said:
well the 16gb version, not sure what batch is it and where is it imported from(assuming Korea) goes for 1950 PLN = 373.8150 GBP according to google while the 32gb version which is imported from Korea goes for 2250 PLN = 431.3250 GBP so yeah not a big difference but still.
The thing is that I dont really play games on a mobile, most of the time I would just use it for browsing, mail, facebook, gps/maps, apps and camera damn, decisions decisions...
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Well i never had the choice... Only 16gb was available in UK. I would defo spend another 50 quid to get extra storage... You're planning to spend a lot of money already so extra 300pln is not that bad isn't?
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Personally I would just save the money and buy the 16gb and get a massive SD Card instead. I doubt there is any noticeable difference in performance unless you have a gizillion apps open at the same time. In fact I remember reading an article where an LG employee says the phone is optimised to run on 2GB RAM.
The only reason I can think of to get the 32GB version is if you do not plan on getting an SD Card, then the extra storage is definately worth it. And maybe resale value will be higher...

szqnl said:
Personally I would just save the money and buy the 16gb and get a massive SD Card instead. I doubt there is any noticeable difference in performance unless you have a gizillion apps open at the same time. In fact I remember reading an article where an LG employee says the phone is optimised to run on 2GB RAM.
The only reason I can think of to get the 32GB version is if you do not plan on getting an SD Card, then the extra storage is definately worth it. And maybe resale value will be higher...
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I think the extra on board storage is, now, very important as, in the up to date google builds, moving app data to sd is very restricted.

bobsie41 said:
I think the extra on board storage is, now, very important as, in the up to date google builds, moving app data to sd is very restricted.
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Unless you root...
But even so, internal storage is better than SD card for many reason (ease of use, speed)
I picked the 32GB from Germany, very happy I did so.

Get the one with 3gb ram, I can't believe they are still releasing phones with 2gb ram.
I have a Z1 and since I started using a custom launcher whenever I have some apps open and press the home button the homescreen redraws and it's not nearly as quick as before.
Also some apps don't stay cached when I reopen them.
The G3 with its massive resolution should eat even more ram.
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I've just read a review here http://pclab.pl/art58419-7.html where they've tested the 2gb version and said it lags a lot, the CPU and GPU gets hot a lot, that it would be better if there was full HD than QHD, that the screen dims weirdly and that the screen gets this weird sharpening effect....
christ I dont know what to do :/ z2 is nice but it has a lot of issues, one's camera isnt good enough these days, g3 3gb is probably most future proof but the more I read about it the more doubts I get...

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I think the extra on board storage is, now, very important as, in the up to date google builds, moving app data to sd is very restricted.
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True, guess it depends on what you use your phone for. I don't do any gaming so the app data space isn't that large.
If the difference in price is ok then it makes sense to get the 32GB I suppose. Here in Singapore, only the 32GB version is available and only S$755 sim-free which is relatively cheap for a new flagship phone.
I'm still deciding whether to get this or the G2 which is only S$520 now!

I'm planning to buy the 32gb version. What I like to know is if the custom roms will be different or will they all be suitable for this version?

G3 the 16 or 32 GB
cez10 said:
Hey guys
I am considering getting the G3 and theres about £50 difference between 32 and 16gb version, is the 3gb/32gb actually worth it? Seen some tests and the difference was hardly noticable...anybody has any experience with both versions and could compare?
Thanks!
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Hi,
I have got both phones at the moment (Model D855) and I would strongly suggest you spend the the extra few bucks on tthe 32GB phone. Not as much for the ROM but for the RAM. Today I have installed the same apps on both phobes after rooting them and installing TWRP recovery and the difference is very obvious especially when having several apps open in the background. Although many phones could do perefctly with the amount of RAM the 16 GB model offers, I think there is a difference in this phonbes screen specs. This fabulous screen asks a lot of capacity which I think is the reason the 16 GB version gets very leggy. It's better if you reboot every now and then but I recon you'd get very anoyed at having to do that 3 times a day.
The price difference is big enough to go for the 16 GB version. You'll most prbably regret in a few months.

I have the 2 GB version no problem
Screen is good no heating problems
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I have the 16g d855 my phone now runs at 300mb free ram i bought it for 380 euro and the 32gb was for 500+ so the difference was big. So if you have that money go for 32 a test on youtube on benchmarking both versions shows that 32gb is 5-7% faster and the results proofs that.
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2/3GB of RAM

how much does it concern you that the 5X may only have 2GB of RAM according to the latest leaks?
If it becomes official will that change your mind about buying this phone?

I would still buy it but having only 2gb of ram but only if the price is right. They can forget about charging $400 for it, the current rumored specs are almost identical performance wise to a nexus 5 and those can be had for $200 used.

peachpuff said:
I would still buy it but having only 2gb of ram but only if the price is right. They can forget about charging $400 for it, the current rumored specs are almost identical performance wise to a nexus 5 and those can be had for $200 used.
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is the 808 not still a good bit better then the 800?

glitchhawk said:
how much does it concern you that the 5X may only have 2GB of RAM according to the latest leaks?
If it becomes official will that change your mind about buying this phone?
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It's probably a deal breaker for me... A phone with 2 gb of ram is not future proof.. I would consider the 6p instead, but I hope it doesn't feel huge in the hand...
Otherwise my only hope is that the 2gb is for the lower 16 gb model only, and the 32 gb one has 3gb of ram....
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I was reading the op title as "2/3rds of a GB" lol. But seriously, I'm fine with either. I want the typical smooth fluid Nexus experience. However they achieve that, whether 2 or 3 GB of RAM, I'm good with it.

what if it's $349 for 16GB and $399 for a 32GB but both 2gb ram.
is it still worth it?

People don't even know how the phone runs yet and are already calling it garbage. Lol. Oh, you people.
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My usage today is usually shy of 1GB. 2GB is fine. I'm more concerned about battery life, quick charge and camera quality and speed.

glitchhawk said:
is the 808 not still a good bit better then the 800?
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A bit better yes, but not a whole lot better like the 810.

Well I know for a fact that 2gb is not enough for my usage. To be more specific, when I use something like my car Appradio, and need to run ARUnchained on Bluetooth, with Spotify and Maps, along with casting screen, the phone doesn't last more than 5 mins without either dropping the cast screen, or rebooting.
On the flip side, the OnePlus one, which has just 1gb more Ram holds a very stable screencast, so yea... To each their own, but I'm thinking they will do 16gb with 2gb Ram, or 32gb with 3gb Ram, the same as they did with the LG G3...
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The Moto X Pure looks like a better option at this point. Same cpu except larger battery and screen. And 3gb ram. Although larger screen may be a deal breaker
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I think if the phone turns out to have 2 gigs of RAM, I'd consider the Huawei variant.. I want that 3GB, it IS an upgrade.. Xposed is really ram hungry and I use dozens of modules.. Not to mention so many mods, custom rom w/ CM's theme engine and animation tweaks on my Nexus 5 2013, I normally have just about 235MBs of RAM remaining in average use which makes for a really laggy experience but I still live with it, judge me. So yeah, I want 3GBs of RAM.. I'm leaning towards the Nexus 6P because according to the rumors it does seem like a powerhouse compared to the LG one.. Just hope the development team is as engrossed in the 6P as it might be in the 5X .. I don't know why but something is keeping me from giving a 100% to Huawei.

I think we have nothing to worry about. There will be two versions of this phone. One will have 16gb and 2gb of ram and the other will have 32gb and 3gb of ram. The one that was outed on Amazon might be the overseas version with the lower specs. The
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All will be revealed on 9/29. It's all just inaccurate speculation until then. No need to get all bent out of shape yet.
My money is on 3GB being available, though.

i'm fine with 2 variants as long as I can get 3gb or more. if not, ill have to choose a different phone myself as well.

Bxrider117 said:
I think we have nothing to worry about. There will be two versions of this phone. One will have 16gb and 2gb of ram and the other will have 32gb and 3gb of ram. The one that was outed on Amazon might be the overseas version with the lower specs. The
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And why should the overseas version has lower specs? Are you crazy?

Pixel Out of Box Storage

Has it been confirmed anywhere how much out of the box storage we will have with either the 32gb or 128gb Pixels? My 32 gb 6p had 25gb out of box. Im trying to find out of it will be less than 25gb since the Pixel will have the dual partitions for faster/background updates. I did manage to find a screenshot somebody took from the Android Police hands on demo and it shows 29gb available out of box. I will attach the screenshot. Im not sure if that will be same for the retail phones or if these are only demo phones so they might not take up as much space.

So there's 22gb's available, since 8gb of the 30 is already used up.

I got the 'quite dark, XL, 32GB'... I am wondering now if I should have upgraded to the 128 GB. Pictures/Video in the cloud will be great, but I am wondering how much space the VR apps will consume.

I have both 32 and 128 silver on preorder . Trying to figure out if 32 will be enough before cancelling one of them
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32GB is pretty lean for a device without an SD card. I don't need the room for pics or music anymore but although I swear this phone won't need rooted, if I DO go there, I'll need room for ROMs & backups.

cjhoney said:
I got the 'quite dark, XL, 32GB'... I am wondering now if I should have upgraded to the 128 GB. Pictures/Video in the cloud will be great, but I am wondering how much space the VR apps will consume.
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On my s7 they're around 500mb to 1gb, definitely not small. You'll run out of space quickly.

32gb on devices is not enough nowadays..todays standard is 64gb and up

I'm very worried with my 32gb not being enough. I needed the 5.5 inch screen but I don't know if the storage is more of a factor
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I think it's more than enough if you take advantage of the 'Free Unlimited Google Photo's Backup' feature

From what I've heard/seen, it doesn't seem to be much different than the 6P, so hopefully it's the same. I personally don't mind as I still have 14GB free on my 6P. I don't use VR apps or games, so most of the space is for apps, pictures/videos, music.
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Would like to know 32gb free space?

pro4ever said:
Would like to know 32gb free space?
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Total storage on UK model is 29.7Gb minus 5.39Gb for the system so you will have 24.31Gb to play with. I've attached a Screenshot of mine. Xl model BTW if that makes any difference.

Look Back at 6GB RAM vs. 8GB RAM

Hi everyone! I'm hoping you all can help me out. I'm contemplating purchasing a Note9 with 8GB or RAM. It costs $250 more than the 6GB RAM option though (granted it also quadruples your internal storage amount).
After this debate happened with the OnePlus 5T, many people said it would be better long-term to have the 8GB, but it wasn't necessary. Has there been any consensus reached, 1 year later, on whether the 8GB of RAM truly makes any difference in performance for users of the phone? I don't need more storage on the Note (although it would be cool), so I'm really thinking mostly about upgrading for RAM/future-proofing.
Thoughts? Thanks in advance!

I had the op3 with 6 GB Ram for 1.5 years. Now the 5t with 8 GB but they are NEVER full and usually I have 2-3 GB Ram free. 6 GB are certainly more than enough. Maybe in 2 or 3 years 8 COULD be better or faster but I think after 3 years you can also buy something new if you need top notch performance.

I've got the 5T with 8GB. Never seen 6GB used much less 8. In retrospect I should have gotten the model with 6 and saved my money. I figure by the time we need 8 the phone will be well past due for replacement.

Tiz92 said:
I had the op3 with 6 GB Ram for 1.5 years. Now the 5t with 8 GB but they are NEVER full and usually I have 2-3 GB Ram free. 6 GB are certainly more than enough. Maybe in 2 or 3 years 8 COULD be better or faster but I think after 3 years you can also buy something new if you need top notch performance.
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roootsman said:
I've got the 5T with 8GB. Never seen 6GB used much less 8. In retrospect I should have gotten the model with 6 and saved my money. I figure by the time we need 8 the phone will be well past due for replacement.
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Thank you both! This helps a lot.

It's not necessary but 8gb option has 128 gb memory.And there is no sd card slot

Could be helpful on resale....

yigiitkaan said:
It's not necessary but 8gb option has 128 gb memory.And there is no sd card slot
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Yeah, my situation is quite different. It's 128GB/6GB or 512GB/8GB. I definitely do not need 512GB of storage (and I have a 256GB SD card anyway), so it's really all about the RAM in my case.

PsiPhiDan said:
Yeah, my situation is quite different. It's 128GB/6GB or 512GB/8GB. I definitely do not need 512GB of storage (and I have a 256GB SD card anyway), so it's really all about the RAM in my case.
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My upgrade was more dramatic. I went from the N6 32Gb w/ 3gb ram to the OP5T 128gb w/ 8gb ram. I mostly game on my phones. I never maxed out my 3gb on the N6. IMO, Save your money and get the 6gb option. The tech will advance fast enough to warrant the new 8gb standard in a few years.

16 GB RAM vs. 12 GB RAM - any real benefits?

Just wanted to catch your opinion on the real benefits of buying the 16 GB variant as opposed to 12 GB model. Make abstraction of the storage capacity increase, just assume that you don't really need 512 GB as long as you have expandable storage (via microSD) to use if really needed.
I am thinking of arguments justifying the additional RAM increase, considering that 12 GB is already more than enough for multitasking., even for running 2-3 RAM-intensive games at the same time
Looking forward to your opinions! :good: Thank you!

More ram - better dex experience?
Better for "locking apps" in the ram (new feature I guess for s20 series).
Smoother gaming?
Better for recording 8k?
More ram for buffing video?
Buffing online radio?

20degrees said:
More ram - better dex experience?
Better for "locking apps" in the ram (new feature I guess for s20 series).
Smoother gaming?
Better for recording 8k?
More ram for buffing video?
Buffing online radio?
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Is the "locking apps" feature available for all S20 phones? Someone in the YouTube's had mentioned it was an ultra exclusive. Lots of times those guys are wrong though.

chetly968 said:
Is the "locking apps" feature available for all S20 phones? Someone in the YouTube's had mentioned it was an ultra exclusive. Lots of times those guys are wrong though.
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Not sure. I'm getting the ultra so I couldn't care less. ?

20degrees said:
Not sure. I'm getting the ultra so I couldn't care less.
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So are you getting the 16 GB version?

katolink said:
So are you getting the 16 GB version?
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Oh yeah. I wish they offered a 1tb version. I'd be all over that.

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Oh yeah. I wish they offered a 1tb version. I'd be all over that.
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Ok, but assuming that you don't run 2 games at a time, or use dex at the same time with 8K recording, or buffing online radio.... is the incremental 4 GB really worth buying? I mean obviously this depends on real world usage, but still...

katolink said:
Ok, but assuming that you don't run 2 games at a time, or use dex at the same time with 8K recording, or buffing online radio.... is the incremental 4 GB really worth buying? I mean obviously this depends on real world usage, but still...
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Likely not worth it?
Also would depend how long you keep the phone? More ram would be a better future proofing option?

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Likely not worth it?
Also would depend how long you keep the phone? More ram would be a better future proofing option?
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Right point here. Future-proofing on this hardware is very tempting and viable.
I guess the real question is: if, let's say, you record 8K or buff high res video or run dex or play a high demanding game, BUT one at a time, with no superposition between such memory/processor-hungry apps, will the phone perform faster/smoother/more efficiently (battery-wise) in the 16 GB config, as opposed to 12 GB setup? Ignoring multitasking, focusing on single-tasking.

katolink said:
Right point here. Future-proofing on this hardware is very tempting and viable.
I guess the real question is: if, let's say, you record 8K or buff high res video or run dex or play a high demanding game, BUT one at a time, with no superposition between such memory/processor-hungry apps, will the phone perform faster/smoother/more efficiently (battery-wise) in the 16 GB config, as opposed to 12 GB setup? Ignoring multitasking, focusing on single-tasking.
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That's a good question. I don't think that can be answered without tests.

Definitely the bigger number. Bigger is always better, right?
What's future proofing?
Most of you will be trading your (S20 Ultra) in for a maxed out Note 20 in August, right?

cpufrost said:
Definitely the bigger number. Bigger is always better, right?
What's future proofing?
Most of you will be trading your (S20 Ultra) in for a maxed out Note 20 in August, right?
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Yes, bigger is generally better. The point is if bigger is really necessary or not (i.e. overkill) for certain usage patterns.
Future proofing means ensuring that you get the most advanced hardware/technology specs at a certain point in time in order to ensure that your device will not be outrun by future devices very time soon and will support more demanding future apps. In our case, if you buy the 16 GB variant, for sure you will not need to upgrade your phone for the next couple of years, RAM will likely be more than sufficient for running any apps that could possibly be launched in the future, no matter how memory intensive they would be.
I personally am not a Note fan, I don't use the sPen.

katolink said:
Just wanted to catch your opinion on the real benefits of buying the 16 GB variant as opposed to 12 GB model. Make abstraction of the storage capacity increase, just assume that you don't really need 512 GB as long as you have expandable storage (via microSD) to use if really needed.
I am thinking of arguments justifying the additional RAM increase, considering that 12 GB is already more than enough for multitasking., even for running 2-3 RAM-intensive games at the same time
Looking forward to your opinions! :good: Thank you!
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@ 16 gigs -
- In theory, yes better..
In practical usage, I highly,highly doubt it.

Well worth the extra RAM, I'm getting this phone 12GB purely because it's my main work tool and use some ram hungry apps all day, being able to put the main 3 in RAM with larger brighter screen and larger battery is well worth the money .
I spend 9 hours a day using a phone
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katolink said:
Yes, bigger is generally better. The point is if bigger is really necessary or not (i.e. overkill) for certain usage patterns.
Future proofing means ensuring that you get the most advanced hardware/technology specs at a certain point in time in order to ensure that your device will not be outrun by future devices very time soon and will support more demanding future apps. In our case, if you buy the 16 GB variant, for sure you will not need to upgrade your phone for the next couple of years, RAM will likely be more than sufficient for running any apps that could possibly be launched in the future, no matter how memory intensive they would be.
I personally am not a Note fan, I don't use the sPen.
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I was being sarcastic.
16GB is pure marketing, nothing more.
By the time 16GB is relevant on mobile devices, the CPU would be so outdated and slow.
Storage OTOH, matters more than anything.
8K video at decent bit rates; 200Mbps and up, uses a LOT of storage. As will better multichannel audio.
8K seems to be a gimmick at first but when you look at how much info you have in each frame, and there are 24 of them each second, it makes it so much easier to get a still from that video that simply wouldn't be possible by shooting pics with the regular snapper. Serious DSLR users are laughing, but you can't fit one in your pocket!

Storage irrelevant to me as everything I do is saved in the cloud
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Until you have no signal coverage.
As commented with he increase in camera specs it will consume a lot of data. 8K will default to internal memory so for me it's important.

bomp306 said:
Until you have no signal coverage.
As commented with he increase in camera specs it will consume a lot of data. 8K will default to internal memory so for me it's important.
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Internal memory or microSD card, which can be up to 1 TB. From this perspective, choosing the 16 GB RAM model just because it has 512 GB internal memory does not seem necessary. Well, unless you cannot use a memory card because you have 2 SIMs inserted in the hybrid slot and your carrier does not support eSIM
Hence, IMO the real choice is between the two RAM sizes, rather than internal memory specs.

katolink said:
Internal memory or microSD card, which can be up to 1 TB. From this perspective, choosing the 16 GB RAM model just because it has 512 GB internal memory does not seem necessary. Well, unless you cannot use a memory card because you have 2 SIMs inserted in the hybrid slot and your carrier does not support eSIM
Hence, IMO the real choice is between the two RAM sizes, rather than internal memory specs.
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Internal memory is MUCH faster than ANY microSD card!

cpufrost said:
Internal memory is MUCH faster than ANY microSD card!
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But you still use internal memory for storage, isn't it? So what's the deal? Where does faster internal memory help?