Does anyone have by any chance found a way to produce 32 MP shots using GCam ? I can't Invision the amount of details that would appear in the picture ,I searched everywhere and I am desperate for such mode ,even if the picture is just interpoalted
Thanks in advance ,have a nice day ?
Everybody Needs GCam For A70.
Everyone who have A70, needs GCam with proper cameras.
Rear : 32MP
Front: 32MP
Somebody says that samsung and other phones like Xiaomi, Oneplus, Realme etc. are using 4x technology. Means rendering image at 4x.
Redmi 7 Note Pro has 48 MP but it actually has 12MP camera means 4x12= 48MP.
Same case in other phones. Like realme 3 pro has 16MP camera but click 64mp ultra pic too.
Listen, If we are thinking like this 4x technology. Then Gcam shows rear camera = 8MP means 4x8=32MP. Means it's true.
But But But... In case of front camera why it shows 5.1 MP? means 5.1X4 =20.4 MP ? Strange!!!!!!!!
If 4x is used then why front camera shows 5.1 MP even it's also 32MP.
I am very sad because there is no developer, who shows interest in custom ROMS, Mods, GCam, TWRP etc. for Samsung A70.
I will wait for some days and then try to sale my A70.
Thanks.
If I'm not mistaken the camera has 4x8MP sensors and the gcam can only see one of them , the front camera is another issue and it mainly has to do with the way gcam is made. If anyone knows better please inform us.
8MP on the front, 5MP depth sensor, 8MP ultrawide and 32MP regular on the back. The 32MP sensor is a Samsung ISOCELL sensor that uses 2x2 pixel binning (basically 4 cells = 1 pixel) to produce a binned 8MP image.
Samsung's 12MP mode is curious, it's not really needed. Gcam produces better images at 8MP than Samsung's own camera software does at 12MP. Samsung's app is garbage, basically.
Samaung dont make all their camera modes available in public APIs and until that changes gcam will likely never fully support any Samsung phone.
Hello everyone, I have the aura blue S20 plus. I had a s10 before the s20 plus is borderline too big for me.
I went for the plus because of the ToF sensor and zoom in mic, in my opinion the s20 plus had the best cameras (better than the ultra's).
Right now I am considering trading in for the Fold 2, which looks like it has the s20's cameras. I'm not sure how much I'm losing giving up the ToF sensor. Will quick measure still work? I think I will lose 3d scan.
imgur [dot] com/gallery/nWACMp4
The only example I've seen the ToF sensor make a difference in a photo.
I have the regular S20 5G (NA release unlocked), and do not miss the ToF sensor. Portrait shots (live focus) still give nice bokeh. There are YouTube vids out there that show the ToF doesnt really do anything , pics were taken w/ ToF covered and not covered and both are near identical . Imo it's the software that's doing all the work , fast moving shots it might help out . Samsung's camera app is getting dam near pixel level in this regard.
Can you share the video please?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzCNc0Gbnnw
seek to 3:20 ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRj6AfaNCaM
seek to 2:43
Thank you. I had seen that first video.
The dark blue in the second video is the s20+ I have
TL;DR;
Would it be possible to insert S20FE's optical 3x zoom lens instead of this 64 MP useless gimmick so that S20 loses the high-res mode and earns proper, optical zoom of cheaper S20FE instead?
Full story:
I take many photos with my phone and I'm pretty happy with S20's main and ultrawide cameras, but the 3x hybrid "optical" (ye, 1.1x optical is indeed very big magnification) zoom is a damn joke. I was disappointed from the very first pictures from the "telephoto" camera from my S20 - they are usable only with very strong, direct sunlight. As soon as the sun goes away or the phone is indoor with moderate amount of light, this "telephoto" is just useless. Either it won't trigger at all or produces photos comparable to phones from 2014 - noisy, low detail, bad exposure.
My disappointment was even bigger when cheaper and "worse" S20FE was released. My friend purchased one immediately after its launch and we did comparisons. Some of the x3 zoom photos difference between the two is that significant that I literally feel like we were comparing phones from different decades. S20FE literally feels like it's from the far future when compared to S20. Even photos taken with direct, bright sunlight (where the 1.1 "telephoto" from S20 is only usable at) has differences - S20FE images are simply sharper, has more finest details and has literally zero noise. I won't comment photos taken indoor or after the dusk, because it's like comparing devices from different decades, really.
I hoped that if cheaper and "worse" S20FE has proper, optical zoom, S21 will have it as well, but as the full specs are leaked already - Samsung opted for a 1.1 "telephoto" 64 MP gimmick again - we still don't have a compact Samsung flagship with zoom lens.
Would it be possible to remove this useless 64 MP module and put 8 MP 3x optical lens to my S20? Or swap the whole camera module (including the regular and ultrawide cameras as well)? Would the software work with non-official hardware setup? Does anybody have experience with such experiments?
S20 with optical zoom would be really the perfect phone for me I wish I could have.
If i buy a diferent sensor can i replace it and will it funcion normaly? Or would need some custom firmware?
Buying a different camera sensor will not work. First of all the contacts to attach it to the daughter board will be different. Secondly it probably won't fit in the cameras space and so would rattle. Thirdly the firmware wouldn't understand the output of the sensor. Sorry
if only android worked as proper os with modular drivers or should i say it's Qualcomm fault.... as far as my testing i think sensors on poco f3 are not bad at all it's the software that counts these days, if you can tweak gcam you can get good results in color reproduction and dynamic range and video quality as well, keep in mind that all phone camera systems have limitations and the best bet is getting a cheap used compact camera like lumix lx10 or sony rx100 or canon g7x.
dfps123 said:
If i buy a diferent sensor can i replace it and will it funcion normaly? Or would need some custom firmware?
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Someone tried a IMX686 (or IMX 682) from a K40 Pro in the standard K40(actually vice versa but the point still stands) and it will not work. If you can read chinese then watch this video. Basically the camera module can fit in the connector and can fit in the frame but it will not work both in standard and 48MP mode as the driver is missing.
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if only android worked as proper os with modular drivers or should i say it's Qualcomm fault.... as far as my testing i think sensors on poco f3 are not bad at all it's the software that counts these days, if you can tweak gcam you can get good results in color reproduction and dynamic range and video quality as well, keep in mind that all phone camera systems have limitations and the best bet is getting a cheap used compact camera like lumix lx10 or sony rx100 or canon g7x.
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Nah the sensor is objectively awful, especially in low light conditions. My 3 year old MI 8 has a better sensor.
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Nah the sensor is objectively awful, especially in low light conditions. My 3 year old MI 8 has a better sensor.
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For me the sensor is like lightyears ahead of my old phone, that thing can't even take a low light photo without blur in 80% of scenarios. Probably because my standards are set so low that this sensor is amazing to me.
Stoffl_ said:
Nah the sensor is objectively awful, especially in low light conditions. My 3 year old MI 8 has a better sensor.
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imx363 is a very good sensor even if it's lacking pixel banding but what make the difference is the lenses, tbh they used a higher quality one in mi8 compared to f3, also the lack of ois on f3 affects low light quality
Is there any work to provide 60 fps support for the ultrawide camera? some xda god is working on it?
Raziel_Sicily said:
Is there any work to provide 60 fps support for the ultrawide camera? some xda god is working on it?
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unfortunately that crap sensor from 2015 does not even support 1080p 60fps, I don't understand why they use that crap instead of going for newer sensor that can do that, the regular S22 supports it.
U think that the problem is an hardware limitation or there is a way to solve it via software or by a samsung update firmware?
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U think that the problem is an hardware limitation or there is a way to solve it via software or by a samsung update firmware?
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hardware ofc, why else would they limit it to 30 fps?
It is not sure, my old note 20 ultra come with an 30fps ultrawide recording camera, after some time, a fjrmware update bringh me th 60 fps ultrawide recording option. I hope samsung can do the same think with my fold 4
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It is not sure, my old note 20 ultra come with an 30fps ultrawide recording camera, after some time, a fjrmware update bringh me th 60 fps ultrawide recording option. I hope samsung can do the same think with my fold 4
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that ultra wide is the same introduced with S20, bigger, better and newer, same one as S22, it does support 60fps but Flip and Fold keeps getting the ancient CRAP sensor.
I think that it will be enabled via firm/software update. We saw that in the N20 series and, the UW câmera can record 4K30 so it is able to deal with the data of 2K60 (roughly the same bandwidth)... Maybe the problem is lack of time to sync and adjust frame pacing...
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I think that it will be enabled via firm/software update. We saw that in the N20 series and, the UW câmera can record 4K30 so it is able to deal with the data of 2K60 (roughly the same bandwidth)... Maybe the problem is lack of time to sync and adjust frame pacing...
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I don't know how much clearer I can be, this is the same UW camera used in first Flip, Flip/Fold3 and they haven't got any update to 60fps as the camera sensor don't support it, otherwise it should have been there from day one, S22 does support it because of better sensor.
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I don't know how much clearer I can be, this is the same UW camera used in first Flip, Flip/Fold3 and they haven't got any update to 60fps as the camera sensor don't support it, otherwise it should have been there from day one, S22 does support it because of better sensor.
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According AndroidCentral`s review, It's a newer sensor as published here: https://www.androidcentral.com/phones/heres-how-much-better-the-galaxy-z-fold-4-cameras-are
"The Ultra-wide sensor and cover camera sensors are the same resolutions but are newer sensors than what's in the Fold 3."
If you have another source, a maybe a teardown, we can ask for a correction on AndroidCentral article...
According SamMobile (https://www.sammobile.com/news/sams...as-a-mixed-bag-of-new-and-old-camera-sensors/) the Ultrawide sensor is a Sony IMX258 and the datasheet indicates 1080p60 support (https://www.electronicspecifier.com/attachment/view/59aeb13e5a8ec97c2c8b4570/Sony IMX258 Datasheet)
And also SamMobile thinks there is a chance of Fold 4 receives a uppdate to shoot UW at 60Fps: https://www.sammobile.com/news/sams...ort-4k-60-fps-ultra-wide-video-recording-yet/
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According AndroidCentral`s review, It's a newer sensor as published here: https://www.androidcentral.com/phones/heres-how-much-better-the-galaxy-z-fold-4-cameras-are
"The Ultra-wide sensor and cover camera sensors are the same resolutions but are newer sensors than what's in the Fold 3."
If you have another source, a maybe a teardown, we can ask for a correction on AndroidCentral article...
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Samsung Galaxy Z Fold4 review
The Galaxy Z Fold4 comes with a very similar rear camera setup to the one found on the Galaxy S22 and S22+. The selfie situation, meanwhile, is the same...
m.gsmarena.com
For the ultrawide, our Fold reports the Sony IMX 258 - a fairly ancient imager with a 1/3.06" optical format and 1.12µm pixels. Its native resolution is 13MP, but Samsung lists it at 12MP, and that's the size of images it outputs. While the sensor itself has AF capability, the camera as a package doesn't support it. The lens covers a 123-degree field of view, as per Samsung's specs, and has an f/2.2 aperture. That's the Fold3's contribution to the rear setup, while the S22 uses a nicer 1/2.55" sensor with 1.4µm pixels.
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Samsung Galaxy Z Fold4 review
The Galaxy Z Fold4 comes with a very similar rear camera setup to the one found on the Galaxy S22 and S22+. The selfie situation, meanwhile, is the same...
m.gsmarena.com
For the ultrawide, our Fold reports the Sony IMX 258 - a fairly ancient imager with a 1/3.06" optical format and 1.12µm pixels. Its native resolution is 13MP, but Samsung lists it at 12MP, and that's the size of images it outputs. While the sensor itself has AF capability, the camera as a package doesn't support it. The lens covers a 123-degree field of view, as per Samsung's specs, and has an f/2.2 aperture. That's the Fold3's contribution to the rear setup, while the S22 uses a nicer 1/2.55" sensor with 1.4µm pixels.
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GSM Arena`s Fold 3 review indicates that the Sensor is a Samsung S5K3L6... I think that or the reviewers are lost or there is several camera setups out ther on the same models...
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GSM Arena`s Fold 3 review indicates that the Sensor is a Samsung S5K3L6... I think that or the reviewers are lost or there is several camera setups out ther on the same models...
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I don't know but it's still a crap sensor that is being used, I could record 60fps with S20, S21, S21 Ultra and S22 with the UW camera, so no way the Fold is getting any software update that enables it.
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I don't know but it's still a crap sensor that is being used, I could record 60fps with S20, S21, S21 Ultra and S22 with the UW camera, so no way the Fold is getting any software update that enables it.
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Note20, S20/21 and S20/21+ all haven't 60FPS on UW camera at launch, so there is hope for us about it
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Note20, S20/21 and S20/21+ all haven't 60FPS on UW camera at launch, so there is hope for us about it
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no chance, it's a crap sensor, the other phones did have better and newer one.