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Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus vs S9 Plus – Camera Test

I put the Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus's cameras up against its predecessor the S9 Plus, in an attempt to determine how much has improved and whether or not it's worth upgrading to.
Overall. I've found that there isn't a lot separating both these phones when it comes to the main camera and the telephoto lens that is. Actually, just a little difference, I find that the S9 Plus took pictures that were
slightly more detailed and the high dynamic range on the S9 Plus was also a little better. The pictures taken with the S9 Plus were also more vivid and saturated but whether or not you like that, would depend on personal preference.
Now, where the S10 Plus shines, is the ultra wide camera, the S9 Plus doesn't have that at all, so in that area the S10 Plus wins hands down, capable of capturing nearly as much as the eyes can see, and of course it's generally more fun to shoot landscape images with that ultra wide camera.
Another area the S10 Plus wins in is Video stabilisation at 1080p, trust me when I say the video is really stable.
If video stabilisation and ultra wide images aren't of any interest to you, then, the S9 Plus in my opinion shoots better images so there's no point in upgrading, otherwise if you want something that's versatile go ahead and upgrade to the S10 Plus.
You can either take my word for it or watch the video below, you'll find that everything I said above is mentioned in the video so it isn't mandatory to watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993mzj7aeiw

xdaman85 said:
I put the Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus's cameras up against its predecessor the S9 Plus, in an attempt to determine how much has improved and whether or not it's worth upgrading to.
Overall. I've found that there isn't a lot separating both these phones when it comes to the main camera and the telephoto lens that is. Actually, just a little difference, I find that the S9 Plus took pictures that were
slightly more detailed and the high dynamic range on the S9 Plus was also a little better. The pictures taken with the S9 Plus were also more vivid and saturated but whether or not you like that, would depend on personal preference.
Now, where the S10 Plus shines, is the ultra wide camera, the S9 Plus doesn't have that at all, so in that area the S10 Plus wins hands down, capable of capturing nearly as much as the eyes can see, and of course it's generally more fun to shoot landscape images with that ultra wide camera.
Another area the S10 Plus wins in is Video stabilisation at 1080p, trust me when I say the video is really stable.
If video stabilisation and ultra wide images aren't of any interest to you, then, the S9 Plus in my opinion shoots better images so there's no point in upgrading, otherwise if you want something that's versatile go ahead and upgrade to the S10 Plus.
You can either take my word for it or watch the video below, you'll find that everything I said above is mentioned in the video so it isn't mandatory to watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993mzj7aeiw
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I'm an enthusiast photographer with currently the Canon EOS 5DSR, I'm not making a lot of pictures with my phone except at work (another story )
When I received my 9+ last year, as I had heard so many good words about the camera, I test it in a shopping mall garage and it was impressive for a phone...
After that I used it indoors at work with very good results but when It tried in dark/night shots it was regrettable at least (Lot of noise)...
I received my 10+ last Thursday and Friday night I tried 2 night shots in normal view and one in tele, they where the same as 9+ with MAYBE a REALLY slight improvement...
I haven't try the super-wide yet but I will! I agree that if the reason to upgrade your phone is the camera maybe the PIXEL 3 will be better choice as it have some really impressive effects in camera... I really hope someone port the PIXEL 3 camera to my EXYNOS

Terry.666 said:
I'm an enthusiast photographer with currently the Canon EOS 5DSR, I'm not making a lot of pictures with my phone except at work (another story )
When I received my 9+ last year, as I had heard so many good words about the camera, I test it in a shopping mall garage and it was impressive for a phone...
After that I used it indoors at work with very good results but when It tried in dark/night shots it was regrettable at least (Lot of noise)...
I received my 10+ last Thursday and Friday night I tried 2 night shots in normal view and one in tele, they where the same as 9+ with MAYBE a REALLY slight improvement...
I haven't try the super-wide yet but I will! I agree that if the reason to upgrade your phone is the camera maybe the PIXEL 3 will be better choice as it have some really impressive effects in camera... I really hope someone port the PIXEL 3 camera to my EXYNOS
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Yep, the Pixel 3 is great for taking pictures at night, the Huawei Mate 20 Pro also takes really great shots at night.

Camera quality

Are the cameras on the 3 Samsung s20/ plus and the ultra all pretty much the same quality? Are is the camera on the Samsung CEO ultra way better than the CEO plus and the base model CEO device? I'm just wondering if it's worth spending the extra $ on the CEO ultra device. Basically is a camera on the s20 ultra way better than the base model s20 and s20 plus. Get somebody please let me know thanks in advance!!! I'm using the LG cup right now. Is the camera on the s20 plus s20 Ultra in the base model s20 way better than the v 60 LG device camera.
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( Exynos S20 U )
I like the camera, it has its limitations to take close-up photos, you can limit that by taking more distance and then zooming in, auto focus on the S20 Ultra is a bit restless, don't expect to take 1 photo there take several photos and pick the best ones out and tinker with snapseed until a good result is achieved for you, you are not familiar with taking and editing photos, 108 MP with the TOF sensor is perfect in certain situations, video recordings at 4 K and now the 21: 9 format is great, only manual, autofocus is unreliable !!. , in short, buy what you can handle, amateur? don't buy samsung!>

No, the S20 & S20+ crop into the sensor for the tele lens not an actual tele lens and the IQ from it is poor, the S20U is an actual tele lens. The UWA is similar in both, and the std lens is 108 mp vs 12mp the S20U takes a range of photos with the 108mp and combines them into a single 12mp photo, and when i compared the 12mp from my S20+ to my S20U the S20U is better detail wise.

3x optical zoom mod on S20

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Would it be possible to insert S20FE's optical 3x zoom lens instead of this 64 MP useless gimmick so that S20 loses the high-res mode and earns proper, optical zoom of cheaper S20FE instead?
Full story:
I take many photos with my phone and I'm pretty happy with S20's main and ultrawide cameras, but the 3x hybrid "optical" (ye, 1.1x optical is indeed very big magnification) zoom is a damn joke. I was disappointed from the very first pictures from the "telephoto" camera from my S20 - they are usable only with very strong, direct sunlight. As soon as the sun goes away or the phone is indoor with moderate amount of light, this "telephoto" is just useless. Either it won't trigger at all or produces photos comparable to phones from 2014 - noisy, low detail, bad exposure.
My disappointment was even bigger when cheaper and "worse" S20FE was released. My friend purchased one immediately after its launch and we did comparisons. Some of the x3 zoom photos difference between the two is that significant that I literally feel like we were comparing phones from different decades. S20FE literally feels like it's from the far future when compared to S20. Even photos taken with direct, bright sunlight (where the 1.1 "telephoto" from S20 is only usable at) has differences - S20FE images are simply sharper, has more finest details and has literally zero noise. I won't comment photos taken indoor or after the dusk, because it's like comparing devices from different decades, really.
I hoped that if cheaper and "worse" S20FE has proper, optical zoom, S21 will have it as well, but as the full specs are leaked already - Samsung opted for a 1.1 "telephoto" 64 MP gimmick again - we still don't have a compact Samsung flagship with zoom lens.
Would it be possible to remove this useless 64 MP module and put 8 MP 3x optical lens to my S20? Or swap the whole camera module (including the regular and ultrawide cameras as well)? Would the software work with non-official hardware setup? Does anybody have experience with such experiments?
S20 with optical zoom would be really the perfect phone for me I wish I could have.

Panoramic Selfie Gone?

TL;DR there used to be a camera mode that let you take a panorama with the selfie camera but I can't find it on my s20
I've just recently "upgraded" from my s8 to the s20 (android 11) and can't help realizing that there were a lot of missing features that I've had before. Today I tried to take a group selfie with my family and wanted a wider angle; I recall that on my s8 there was a feature that would let me take a panorama with the selfie camera and it was really useful to get everyone in my selfie and with a lot of the background too.
I see that there is a 'wide selfie' option on my s20 but it's not the same thing, you get a bigger frame, but it's not a panorama. does anyone know where this mode has gone or another app that can provide the same feature?

I did the same thing - I dropped my beloved S8+ and the nearest replacement was the S20 FE.
I am a big fan of the S8 Wide Selfie feature and would love to know how I can get it to work on my S20

General S22 3x telephoto vs. Pixel 6 Pro 4x telephoto

What is going on with S22 telephoto.
I was expecting some difference between 3x and 4x, what I found was atrocious. S22 telephoto looked like it was not a telephoto camera at all, at least compared to P6P.
Is there some kind of a bug in S22 camera software?

Pixel 6 gives a great photo than the S22 because the google camera is the best!!!

Maskman_101 said:
Pixel 6 gives a great photo than the S22 because the google camera is the best!!!
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Opinions, opinions..., I have S22 and am very impressed with this phone and its camera, went outside yesterday to check it out and I think this 'vanilla' is a hit. Had an embarrassing moment though, thinking that the camera was a dud when I unknowingly left 'portrait' button on and saw ghosts appearing in the viewfinder(Ai was attempting to create a blurr effect in the scene background) but it's all good now and the x3 zoom feature is perfect, some examples bellow.
I also have S22U if I'd feel the urge to "zoom it to the moon".

Tomorrow, I'll post comparison pix between S22 x3 and P6P x4 to illustrate my point.

I think I know what happened - when I was testing the telephoto camera in S22, it was getting dark. So S22 must have switched the camera to wide automatically, so the 3x zoom was entirely in software.
Beware of that.
Pixel 6 Pro did not have that issue, so the result of 4x was nice and crisp.
Here's a comparison in daylight.
P6P pictures were taken with wide and telephoto.
S22 pictures were taken with wide, telephoto, and telephoto at 0.75 x distance to emulate 4x of pixel.

mzsquared said:
Opinions, opinions..., I have S22 and am very impressed with this phone and its camera, went outside yesterday to check it out and I think this 'vanilla' is a hit. Had an embarrassing moment though, thinking that the camera was a dud when I unknowingly left 'portrait' button on and saw ghosts appearing in the viewfinder(Ai was attempting to create a blurr effect in the scene background) but it's all good now and the x3 zoom feature is perfect, some examples bellow.
I also have S22U if I'd feel the urge to "zoom it to the moon".
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Nice photos! we should Expert raw app and it'll be the best of Samsung!

nabbed said:
I think I know what happened - when I was testing the telephoto camera in S22, it was getting dark. So S22 must have switched the camera to wide automatically, so the 3x zoom was entirely in software.
Beware of that.
Pixel 6 Pro did not have that issue, so the result of 4x was nice and crisp.
Here's a comparison in daylight.
P6P pictures were taken with wide and telephoto.
S22 pictures were taken with wide, telephoto, and telephoto at 0.75 x distance to emulate 4x of pixel.
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Both camera samples look out of focus, idk why. Are the lenses clear?

Maskman_101 said:
Nice photos! we should Expert raw app and it'll be the best of Samsung!
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Thank you, the more I use this phone the more I like it.

mzsquared said:
Both camera samples look out of focus, idk why. Are the lenses clear?
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What are you talking about?
These are tiny crops of much larger pictures to illustrate the point.
For example, the S22 wide shot is a crop of 190x130 pixels from the full shot of 4000x3000.

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nabbed said:
What are you talking about?
These are tiny crops of much larger pictures to illustrate the point.
For example, the S22 wide shot is a crop of 190x130 pixels from the full shot of 4000x3000.
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So why are you showing compressed/reduced photos asking for opinion?

mzsquared said:
So why are you showing compressed/reduced photos asking for opinion?
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I am demonstrating the quality of the telephoto camera in comparison with the wide camera, and also in comparison with the P6P.
If I posted full pictures, then you would have to do the crop and zoom by yourself to see the difference.
So I did the cropping and zooming myself, for your benefit.
Are you new at this?

The P6P has a real 4X zoom from the Periscope camera, the S22/S22+ doesn´t have it this system

The S22U Camera App (not the expert Raw) is horrible.
The images all look muddy, far too little details.
I hope they fix it.