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Why you don’t need a task killer app with Android.
Posted Posted by Cody Banks on 25th May 2010 Comments 5 comments
A lot of people have asked us what the best app is for killing tasks? Well, the answer is none of them. Sure there are some nice apps out there for killing tasks, but the fact is you just don’t need one with Android. In fact, most developers
won’t even look at your logcat file if they see you running a task killer app on your Android-based phone.
To clear things up about this, Google’s Android developers blog has finally put this debate to rest about why a task killer is unnecessary, as well as why there are certain services that run in the background all the time, I’m sure at one time or another you’ve seen them and asked yourself “Why do those services keep starting after I kill them?”. Below you can read about when applications stop.......
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I've found no matter how many times it's said, someone will have an anecdote about how their phone became amazingly fast or they doubled battery life using one of these apps. People who want to use them will continue to do so. Don't trouble yourself.
It's nice to have one to kill the odd app that is messing up, but other than that I don't use one.
Aitese said:
I've found no matter how many times it's said, someone will have an anecdote about how their phone became amazingly fast or they doubled battery life using one of these apps. People who want to use them will continue to do so. Don't trouble yourself.
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the reason people say this is because it's actually true.
that's just the truth, maybe you should try using one and notice the difference.
I uninstalled mine for the first time yesterday to test the theory and today, my battery lasted a grand total of 4.5 hours. that's a whole 3 hours less than before.
and at the end of the day, when it's laggy and then use the TK, it really does clear things up.
still wish there was a way to make the battery last longer, it really does suck
samac92 said:
It's nice to have one to kill the odd app that is messing up, but other than that I don't use one.
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You can do this from android... no need for an app.
Barff1984 said:
I uninstalled mine for the first time yesterday to test the theory and today, my battery lasted a grand total of 4.5 hours. that's a whole 3 hours less than before.
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I'd say if you're only getting between 4.5 and 7.5 hours battery life, I'd say you've probably got a rogue app installed anyway.
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Dave
foxmeister said:
I'd say if you're only getting between 4.5 and 7.5 hours battery life, I'd say you've probably got a rogue app installed anyway.
Regards,
Dave
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I agree, taskkillers aren't battery savers they are drainers...
Have had my desire for a couple of days now (comming from a htc hero) and since I removed my taskmanager my desire has juice for about 1,5 days.
With taskpanel I hardly reached 24 hours... And I haven't noticed the device becoming slower...
I don't miss it and if I don't get any strange apps I won't ever install a taskmanager again...
well there are some apps which don't work properly.
Take the xda android app as example. it would sometimes just freeze, and there was no way to restart the app, no option for force close was provided by Android OS either.
In this case Android isn't doing anything, so you have to kill the process manually using
1. the default android feature
2. using a task killer.
I like the quick access to the advanced task killer over the notification area, therefore i use it.
People can tell me whole day long how ingenius Android is, and that it will do everything automatically. But i made very different experiences with some 3rd party apps, which needed some killing every now and then. The xda app is only ONE example of many.
Barff1984 said:
the reason people say this is because it's actually true.
that's just the truth, maybe you should try using one and notice the difference.
I uninstalled mine for the first time yesterday to test the theory and today, my battery lasted a grand total of 4.5 hours. that's a whole 3 hours less than before.
and at the end of the day, when it's laggy and then use the TK, it really does clear things up.
still wish there was a way to make the battery last longer, it really does suck
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The thing is I HAVE used them. Advanced Task Killer was the first app I installed on receiving my Desire...the phone became glitchy and buggy and laggy and it was horrible. I uninstalled ATK and all that stopped. It now NEVER slows down, and I'm getting well over 8hrs of use a day.
I suspect you have a buggy app, and THAT is what you need to find.
We need to stop giving bad app developers a feww ride by ignoring their bad code and just killing the process. Uninstall their app, give it a bad review and insist on using a rival app.
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well there are some apps which don't work properly.
Take the xda android app as example. it would sometimes just freeze, and there was no way to restart the app, no option for force close was provided by Android OS either.
In this case Android isn't doing anything, so you have to kill the process manually using
1. the default android feature
2. using a task killer.
I like the quick access to the advanced task killer over the notification area, therefore i use it.
People can tell me whole day long how ingenius Android is, and that it will do everything automatically. But i made very different experiences with some 3rd party apps, which needed some killing every now and then. The xda app is only ONE example of many.
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You can force close an app from Android. Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Locate the app > open it and force stop.
Create a shortcut to manage applications short cut on your home screen if you like, then you'll only need to do this:
Open Manage Applictions short cut > Locate the app > open it and force stop. - This is just as simple as using a task manager shortcut.
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You can force close an app from Android. Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Locate the app > open it and force stop.
Create a shortcut to manage applications short cut on your home screen if you like, then you'll only need to do this:
Open Manage Applictions short cut > Locate the app > open it and force stop. - This is just as simple as using a task manager shortcut.
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actually using the notification drawer is more comfortable for me. But this is just personal preference.
Yes-They might be useful to kill the occasional rogue app. but apart from that they are pretty pointless. Android does a good job of killing tasks itself.
Despite all the evidence to the contrary people many will continue to use them and use them indiscriminately. Still if they want generally poorer performance and reduced battery life surely that is their choice.
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actually using the notification drawer is more comfortable for me. But this is just personal preference.
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How does that work. the notification draw is pretty much blank most of the time save for new message/downloads etc ?
has anyone actually tried to load up so many apps, so there's almost no memory left, so android kills other apps by himself? It's all excellent in theory, but never witnessed it in real life.
guys I had advanced task manager installed in my phone and my phone was laggy, and my battery was always down to 40-50% at the end of the day, but yesterday on someone's advice I removed ATM, and instantly i noticed the difference, there was no lag in the menus and everything was smooth, and today my battery was an astonishing 85 % remaining when i came back home, and I intentionaly used my phone more than usual. so at least one thing is sure that I will not be using any task manager.
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How does that work. the notification draw is pretty much blank most of the time save for new message/downloads etc ?
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with advanced task manager you can see a small icon at the notification area (at all times). When pulling down the drawer you'll see an entry which says "advanced task manager".
just touch it and a list with current running apps will show up.
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guys I had advanced task manager installed in my phone and my phone was laggy, and my battery was always down to 40-50% at the end of the day, but yesterday on someone's advice I removed ATM, and instantly i noticed the difference, there was no lag in the menus and everything was smooth, and today my battery was an astonishing 85 % remaining when i came back home, and I intentionaly used my phone more than usual. so at least one thing is sure that I will not be using any task manager.
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there are way too many variables in this equation, as to just claim that ATM is responsible for hogging 30-40% battery power per day.
Of course it will have some kind of impact, just like other apps too. But i don't think that it will have a much bigger impact.
no, I dont think there are any variables involved in my case except ATM, I never use internet on mine phone during the day coz i always have internet access on my laptop, instead today I used wifi intentionaly just for testing battery and played asphalt which I normaly dont play during the work hours,
Here's a video from the Developer site that explains very well how Android manages Apps:
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
And if I really need to kill something (very rare!) then I use Task Tray Beta:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.stonedonkey.tasktray or find it in the Market.
This app is also great for seeing what 's actually running and what 's not anymore. And for switching to some App that you know is running, but in the default Android task switcher you can see only 6 apps.... and this will show all.
I tried out a few task killer but all they did was stop my alarm going off in the morning! I'm sure that's something I could have changed though.
I find the best way to keep my desire running nice and quick is to give it a reboot every morning on my way to work. Only takes a couple of minutes....give it a try...
I've been trying to sort through some threads but I am not seeing a real definitive answer to this.
I recently switched over to the series III rom to give it a go from CM7 and last night at full charge I unplugged it just to wake this morning at 14% batter left. This is the identical issue I had with Myn's Roms. Myns I had a wake issue, this one showed 8 hours unplugged 1 hour wake which I played some Rio before sleeping lol. Still both same end result.
My question isn't so much how to fix it or improve it because that question HAS been beaten to death. I am just curious as to what makes the Sense Roms do this specifically. CM7 I was getting really good battery life leaving everything on.
Also, is there an app that actually monitors usage? I don't feel Spare Parts or the stock system reading is telling me everything I want to know about what's using my battery.
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I've been trying to sort through some threads but I am not seeing a real definitive answer to this.
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I'll see if I can be definitive for you....
I recently switched over to the series III rom to give it a go from CM7 and last night at full charge I unplugged it just to wake this morning at 14% batter left.
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My guess is that you have a wakelock issue and if you are using baseband 2.15.00.11.19 in conjunction with PRI 1.90_003 I'm willing to bet that is the culprit. Downgrading the PRI to 1.77_003 takes care of it, by the way.
This is the identical issue I had with Myn's Roms. Myns I had a wake issue, this one showed 8 hours unplugged 1 hour wake which I played some Rio before sleeping lol. Still both same end result.
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See the above response
My question isn't so much how to fix it or improve it because that question HAS been beaten to death. I am just curious as to what makes the Sense Roms do this specifically.
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I wish I had an answer for you as to why that is. I can only assume that synchronizing with email, weather, social networks, etcetera could be major factors.
CM7 I was getting really good battery life leaving everything on.
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I had bad battery life with CM7
Also, is there an app that actually monitors usage? I don't feel Spare Parts or the stock system reading is telling me everything I want to know about what's using my battery.
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SystemPanel Lite & aLogcat are very helpful. With aLogcat, there is realtime monitoring and you should pay attention to anything displayed in RED repeatedly.
hahaha thanks for the definitive break down.
I have downgraded to 1.77 and it's still pretty bad. Again, not really looking for solutions but more of a reason as to WHY the difference.
thanks for the app suggestions.
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I've been trying to sort through some threads but I am not seeing a real definitive answer to this.
I recently switched over to the series III rom to give it a go from CM7 and last night at full charge I unplugged it just to wake this morning at 14% batter left. This is the identical issue I had with Myn's Roms. Myns I had a wake issue, this one showed 8 hours unplugged 1 hour wake which I played some Rio before sleeping lol. Still both same end result.
My question isn't so much how to fix it or improve it because that question HAS been beaten to death. I am just curious as to what makes the Sense Roms do this specifically. CM7 I was getting really good battery life leaving everything on.
Also, is there an app that actually monitors usage? I don't feel Spare Parts or the stock system reading is telling me everything I want to know about what's using my battery.
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hahaha thanks for the definitive break down.
I have downgraded to 1.77 and it's still pretty bad. Again, not really looking for solutions but more of a reason as to WHY the difference.
thanks for the app suggestions.
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You're very welcome and I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Enjoy your weekend, my friend...
One more app suggestion for ya--
Watchdog
It monitors apps and processes and alerts you if one goes rogue on you eating up your battery. I have found that in conjunction with system panel to be a great monitoring system.
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If you can do it, because I don't know how yo use your phone, turn all your data off unless you actually need it.
I do this now, since I found out I can go 2-3 days without a recharge, if I don't need one. I don't use data much, anyhow, except my weather widgets and the times I go on my browser
My usage consists of call text and facebook lol. The clock widget has weather so that too I suppose. Never use 4g. Maps on rare occurrence.
Is there a simple button for data? Without going to settings every time?
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If you never us 4 g try miui. I consistently get 20 hours of use regardless of what I have turned on. Good luck!
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My usage consists of call text and facebook lol. The clock widget has weather so that too I suppose. Never use 4g. Maps on rare occurrence.
Is there a simple button for data? Without going to settings every time?
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I like miui standalone apps but the whole iphone-esque layout I cannot stand.
I like sense. If it was an issue with I NEED battery I would go back to cm7. I would rather go beyond adjust your pri, and disable half your phone and see if there is a specific reason sense roms go all Monica lowinski on your battery. Haha
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My usage consists of call text and facebook lol. The clock widget has weather so that too I suppose. Never use 4g. Maps on rare occurrence.
Is there a simple button for data? Without going to settings every time?
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You're on koni's elite III? Does that come with come with '4g' as one of the toggle widgets in the notification pulldown? If so, you can modify that so that 'mobile data' (3g) toggle will replace the 4g toggle. (if you don't want to do that, you can put a widget on your homescreen by going to add a widget, then scrolling down to 'settings'. Once you hit settings, you'll be presented with more options, 'mobile network' will toggle your 3g on and off at will)
If you do want to modify the pull down toggle, and you have Root Explorer, or another root level file explorer, it can easily be done. I don't think koni's III comes with a widget.txt file already, so you'll need to make one. I'll upload the one I use, which toggles GPS, Brightness, airplane mode, mobile data, flashlight, and sound, so you can use that as a reference, or modify it to you're liking. Once you have widget.txt made how you want it, you need to put it in /system/customize. You can do that using root explorer, or
adb remount
adb push widget.txt /system/customize
adb reboot
here's a list of what you can add to the notification pulldown toggles (6 at a time) And here's a link to the original thread, by JsChiSurf. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836721&highlight=notification+toggles
(don't forget to pipe delimit them): Spelling must be exact, capitals matter. No spaces, and use | to separate them.
Code:
toggleAirplane
toggleAutoRotate
toggleBluetooth
toggleBrightness
toggleFlashlight
toggleGPS
toggleLockScreen
toggleMobileData
toggleScreenTimeout
toggleSleepMode
toggleSound
toggleSync
toggleWifi
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If you can do it, because I don't know how yo use your phone, turn all your data off unless you actually need it.
I do this now, since I found out I can go 2-3 days without a recharge, if I don't need one. I don't use data much, anyhow, except my weather widgets and the times I go on my browser
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Disabling "Always On Mobile Data" is helpful. When you're not actually surfing the net or using data, it'll sleep saving you battery usage.
THere is a widget for data on Koni's three. Long press your screen/widgets/settings/mobile network and you'll get the data widget.
@k2buckly that's some great info, I appreciate it. Will hit the thanks button when I get on my pc. Gives me a new tinker project lol.
As well as others.
So my question still stands but I think we have established the culprit. Mobile data. Now what makes the sense roms so prone to mobile data usage vs other roms causing accelerated drain?
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Go search in the Mik rom thread about IQAgent and IQRD. Google them as well. IQAgent is a nasty app Sprint uses to log information about you that they shouldn't be doing.
People are deleting them wirh root explorer or freezing them with TB and having some luck. I deleted them and it really helped my battery life. At least check in to it.
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Go search in the Mik rom thread about IQAgent and IQRD. Google them as well. IQAgent is a nasty app Sprint uses to log information about you that they shouldn't be doing.
People are deleting them wirh root explorer or freezing them with TB and having some luck. I deleted them and it really helped my battery life. At least check in to it.
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This app makes it a pain but I will. Essentially I would like to get enough tweaks and info to make one thread possibly a sticky for this issue.
This seems like the similar issue of the vibrant. We had to freeze all the drm, functions because they were always talking to samsung for verification. Regardless of having licensed products or not.
I would like to get to a point where we can get these wonderful sense roms to be basically fully functional with respectable battery life. Maybe just my own opinion but I don't think its right we have to essentially disable our phones down to being no better than an old flip phone.
I don't mind doing the research and leg work either. Im a year late on the evo so I need something to do haha.
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To go along with all the other handy advice. Here are some simple steps and explanations on how to help battery drain.
http://androidforums.com/1383478-post1.html
Read up and take some or all of it and try it out...
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To go along with all the other handy advice. Here are some simple steps and explanations on how to help battery drain.
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Nice, some pretty good info in there,.
madflasher said:
To go along with all the other handy advice. Here are some simple steps and explanations on how to help battery drain.
http://androidforums.com/1383478-post1.html
Read up and take some or all of it and try it out...
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This is the holy grail of what i was looking for. I am sure it was in the 1000+ page thread somewhere but I never found anything that explained the CDMA radio usage. I always found "turn off data". No offense to those who posted, the help was appreciated but I was just looking further into it then most do. I am more of a "why" person then a "i don't care just fix it" person.
As I said I am about a year behind on having an Evo so some of this info is DEEP into some searches.
Excellent read, I am going to try these out and have watchdog and system panel going. Before this read I have my phone pretty close to the 1% idle, I doubt I'll maintain that but it's close to satisfactory.
The best advice I could give is this...If you want a "Sense" based rom, I would recommend MikFroyo. The community has gotten so big, that he now has his own site themikmik.com. The reason I feel this is the best rom, is because everything is repacked, cleaned, optimized, and tweaked to the max...which makes for basically, the fastest Sense rom experience you could possibly have. There are also plenty of theme's, if your not one for the stock look (I actually am).
If you don't already use a custom Kernel, I would recommend netarchy-toastmod. His Kernel's have always been great for me, and with SBC charging too. I just ignore the SBC scare tactics. I've been using SBC since it came out, and have not had one single issue.
But the best answer to the "Why?" I could give you, is...USAGE. Unless there is and actual software/hardware issue your having, then all that's left to blame is your usage. Radios that are on, the signal strengths of them, monitoring software in use, and just simply...how much you use it. Which brings me to another point...it's cool to use stuff like Watchdog, or System Panel to see if there are issues, but after that I would recommend getting rid of them, as they themselves eat battery. I'm not saying the destroy your battery...just that they use it. And the more you have running...the more it gets used. The only "active" monitoring software I use is Battery Monitor Widget. It is probably the best app to monitor your battery/usage that exists.
I have never "downgraded" anything on my phone, always update my PRL & Profile, and have not ever had a software/hardware related issue. Then again, I don't flash much...I just stick with the things that work great.
You better try Azrael X v.40 rom, it give you a long battery live and also after you unplug your phone it takes a long time to start seeing any change on you battery status icon. I tried different roms and this one has everything working,my make concern about roms is "battery life" and speed. Also with this rom I always have wifi on, use wireless network as location, Background data on, auto sync on,exchange push mail on, weather sync on, and live wallpaper on. so far that's my setting and I can go through the day with a single charge. (I'm not doing advertising on this rom, I just want to let other know about how good is in Battery life.
Anybody tried this app from the appstore?
Would like to know how true is this app.
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Anybody tried this app from the appstore?
Would like to know how true is this app.
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used it - froze up my phone , un installed
The reviews on play store are quite mixed, some claim doubling the battery. Others say worsen.
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Tried it wasn't impressed. I prefer green power to it.
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what this is app does is reduce bakground and hence will help you if you experience unexplained standby drains, once it's done learning your most used apps, it will control background activity sync
so yes you will notice great improvements if you you have lots of accounts draining your standby times
I currently am on day 6 using the app (actual use, its not including the 2 days of hiding in background watching me). Haven't really noticed a huge difference but I probably get another hour or so of battery life.
I think the trial was pretty lame. After it finally got the thing to start, I like how you can block apps from refreshing in the background. The list is not very big however and I am curious as to what other apps do the same thing but have more options.
All in all, I'd give it a thumb up as it is not hurting my phone's performance and a little battery savings
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I have used this snapdragon app, their is a thread about it somewhere, i removed it as it was giving me thousands wakelocks with the app, i used wakelock detector to see them.
John.
It just blocks apps from syncing if you use your phone auto sync on all the time so it's not like greenify which completely stops background process of a specific app until you open it. If you don't keep auto sync on then it's a waste of time and makes battery even worse.
It's a placebo, don't use it.
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No, it is not a placebo. Yes, it does block apps from syncing in the background. So what? You guys are missing the point.
They are not claiming to possess some magical powers that will double your phone's battery life. The main difference from this app and similar others in the market, is their learning algorithm. It learns from "watching" you use your phone for a couple of days and then controls what is going on in the background to help you save battery without you doing much on your end. It's actually a pretty genius idea. I'm trying it out for the first-time (thanks OP for mentioning this app) and will post back with my results later this week. I'm not expecting wonders, but maybe I'll learn a thing or two about my daily use that I might be able to incorporate into my setups.
I would really appreciate you get back to use with your results, i pulled the plug after a couple of hours because of the high number of wakelocks.
John.
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No, it is not a placebo. Yes, it does block apps from syncing in the background. So what? You guys are missing the point.
They are not claiming to possess some magical powers that will double your phone's battery life. The main difference from this app and similar others in the market, is their learning algorithm. It learns from "watching" you use your phone for a couple of days and then controls what is going on in the background to help you save battery without you doing much on your end. It's actually a pretty genius idea. I'm trying it out for the first-time (thanks OP for mentioning this app) and will post back with my results later this week. I'm not expecting wonders, but maybe I'll learn a thing or two about my daily use that I might be able to incorporate into my setups.
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No problem. Honestly, people freak out too much about wakelocks. You can have 50 simple events waking your device that will consume 10% of a single wakelock event from another app. Google's new play services that have been announced at I/O are wakelock-fiends, but surprisingly, their effect on battery life is very minimal.
Basically, it's about quality and not quantity of the wakelock that matters.
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No problem. Honestly, people freak out too much about wakelocks. You can have 50 simple events waking your device that will consume 10% of a single wakelock event from another app. Google's new play services that have been announced at I/O are wakelock-fiends, but surprisingly, their effect on battery life is very minimal.
Basically, it's about quality and not quantity of the wakelock that matters.
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Indeed, 1500 wakelocks but less than two minutes awake time.
It doesn't work. plain.and.simple.
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A rep from HTC told me the battery Guru was bad and would mess up the phone
I was wondering if itll affect instant messaging app, like whatsapp.
Will I still receive the messages instantly or battery guru will refresh my whatsapp periodically based on my usage?
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installed it. doesn't work. after a few weeks, installed it again, still doesn't work. it seems to just kill running apps. not great if you use whatsapp or viber, you won't be receiving any messages with the battery guru on.
I'm using this but I don't feel that the battery is very good anyway. Is this app working just like greenify?
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Personally i have never really felt the need to get rid of the facebook app despite the bad criticism it gets online! Recently however i decided to disable it and use an alternative app (swipe pro) Its not quiet as good as the proper facebook app but its not bad! If it was gonna help with battery life then i was happy to stick with it but iam not so sure it has! Battery life ever since has been equal at best , possibly even a little worse off then i was when i had the facebook app so iam wondering whats the actual difference between the two? Is the facebook app after improving or are alternative apps such as swipe pro simply not as good as they should be? Iam talking strictly in terms of saving battery life here!
Thoughts?
I tried out Swipe for Facebook, but it wasn't as fluent as Metal for Facebook.
All these apps are wrappers for the web version of FB.
I'd always use FB on browser, but it's annoying to view messages (request desktop site and then it doesn't fit to screen. Still though, Metal surely has the fastest loading time for me.
The regular Facebook app (and Messenger) are complete battery hogs. They eat up more resources than they should and have a lot of unneeded permissions. I could deal with that if they didn't force Messenger on it.
Anyways, any third party Facebook app is just a wrapper to the mobile web version. They will always require less permissions and resources.
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I tried out Swipe for Facebook, but it wasn't as fluent as Metal for Facebook.
All these apps are wrappers for the web version of FB.
I'd always use FB on browser, but it's annoying to view messages (request desktop site and then it doesn't fit to screen. Still though, Metal surely has the fastest loading time for me.
The regular Facebook app (and Messenger) are complete battery hogs. They eat up more resources than they should and have a lot of unneeded permissions. I could deal with that if they didn't force Messenger on it.
Anyways, any third party Facebook app is just a wrapper to the mobile web version. They will always require less permissions and resources.
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Any reasoning why i havent seen any improvement in battery life? It actually seems to be a tad worse! I should add that i have not been experiencing poor battery life, Iam content with it but i just wanted to rid myself of facebook and try an alternative in the hope i could improve battery life a little further but in my own personal experience, disabling facebook and using swipe pro instead has made no difference!!
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Personally i have never really felt the need to get rid of the facebook app despite the bad criticism it gets online! Recently however i decided to disable it and use an alternative app (swipe pro) Its not quiet as good as the proper facebook app but its not bad! If it was gonna help with battery life then i was happy to stick with it but iam not so sure it has! Battery life ever since has been equal at best , possibly even a little worse off then i was when i had the facebook app so iam wondering whats the actual difference between the two? Is the facebook app after improving or are alternative apps such as swipe pro simply not as good as they should be? Iam talking strictly in terms of saving battery life here!
Thoughts?
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You can try "Friendly for Facebook" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.friendly), it's super smooth and well done. I was using it on iPhone, now it is available for Android too.
Blaalad12 said:
Any reasoning why i havent seen any improvement in battery life? It actually seems to be a tad worse! I should add that i have not been experiencing poor battery life, Iam content with it but i just wanted to rid myself of facebook and try an alternative in the hope i could improve battery life a little further but in my own personal experience, disabling facebook and using swipe pro instead has made no difference!!
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Placebo?
Have you actually used a proper app to track the app's usage? Wakelocks? Drain? Etc. I'm sure Swipe has less usage.
You're never gonna have a DRASTIC change in overall battery, though.
If you want to improve battery life, look up Greenify.
Even non-root mode is useful.
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I just downloaded that app and holy crap it's so smooth, I know it wasn't directed to me but thank you. ?
Ariac Konrel said:
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Have you actually used a proper app to track the app's usage? Wakelocks? Drain? Etc. I'm sure Swipe has less usage.
You're never gonna have a DRASTIC change in overall battery, though.
If you want to improve battery life, look up Greenify.
Even non-root mode is useful.
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I just downloaded that app and holy crap it's so smooth, I know it wasn't directed to me but thank you.
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Is greenify worth it? Seems to be conflicting info on it. Some say its great, others say its not necessary and others say it actually runs in the background and thus they found the battery life to be equally as bad if not worse when using greenify!!
Blaalad12 said:
Is greenify worth it? Seems to be conflicting info on it. Some say its great, others say its not necessary and others say it actually runs in the background and thus they found the battery life to be equally as bad if not worse when using greenify!!
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Greenify drains almost no battery, it's very lightweight and designed to work well.
It's best use would be to shut down apps that run in the background to get less drain. I do it when I am at work and whatnot, it saves a lot of battery for me in the end.
It also does aggresive doze (optional) to further save some juice.
There's no way Greenify can make your battery worse, I've never heard of that.
The only thing that can is like 85% of those battery saver apps on the Play Store. I'm sure some are good, but most suck.
I switched from FB to Swipe Pro a few month ago. According to GSam battery monitor, FB was always the top drainer, Swipe is much more easy on the battery.
Ariac Konrel said:
I just downloaded that app and holy crap it's so smooth, I know it wasn't directed to me but thank you.
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Glad to hear that
Does anyone here know what the best set up for swipe pro is? After using it the past 24 hours i quiet like it and battery life does seem to have been improved a little but i have two issues! Iam not seeing/receiving any notifications unless i go in to the app? I have 'enable notifications' ticked and whilst they are present within the app, iam not seeing them until i use the app which sucks a little!! Ironically i have 'vibrate' off and when i go into the app and the notification shows itself it vibrates ha Any ideas?
Also, the settings in general are a bit confusing in my opinion. For example , should i toggled 'enable messages' to on or leave off if i still use messenger? and with notification frequency sync . I had it set to manual on the original app but on this thats not an option?? Is there a difference in how both work? And what is foreground syncing?
Thanks
Oh and on a side note. Whilst i know the difference between amoled and lcd panels and understand that each pixel is being used with lcd regardless of wether the wallpaper is black or not! Is there any power savings to be had at all by using black wallpapers/themes on the htc 10??
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Galaxy M51 comes with a massive 7000 mAh battery!
Are you getting more than 14hrs?
Not really .. still new with me ...getting 7 hours
mysterious.one said:
Not really .. still new with me ...getting 7 hours
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Only 7 hours SoT with a 7000mah battery seems TERRIBLE... I can get 11+ no problem with a 5000mah one.
Nevin jesmon said:
Galaxy M51 comes with a massive 7000 mAh battery!
Are you getting more than 14hrs?
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mi first use, over 14h of sot in 3 days, i live in Italy, no lag, no drain.
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mysterious.one said:
Not really .. still new with me ...getting 7 hours
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Try optimizing the apps by going into settings. Also try disabling the running of useless apps in background. I was also facing battery drain very fast but since i disabled background usage of useless apps and optimized the apps on battery, i am getting terrific results. Will post screenshots when i head back home.
I'm getting around 12Hrs+ with my poco F1 which has 4000mah
its usual with any new phone .. id recommend disable fast charging , let it charge overnight with a regular speed.
after the second charge , im getting 17+ hours - over two use of youtube, netflix and texting , which is marvelous
loving the device , camera is great , screen is crisp , and its SNAAAAAAAAAPDragon .. F.CK Yeah
Got 17 hours on my first charge and that was with 4gb of WhatsApp backup downloading, setting up my work profile and lots of other one time things! I have done my usual of setting a lot of apps to deep sleeping and disabling any bloatware I can't uninstall using Samsung package disabler pro. I reckon 20 hours is possible with this phone...
Lordgilmour said:
Got 17 hours on my first charge and that was with 4gb of WhatsApp backup downloading, setting up my work profile and lots of other one time things! I have done my usual of setting a lot of apps to deep sleeping and disabling any bloatware I can't uninstall using Samsung package disabler pro. I reckon 20 hours is possible with this phone...
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What is the difference between disabling bloatware using settings app and by using Samsung package disabler? I mean why install another app to just disable stuff which you can easily achieve using settings app. In both cases space will be used, app updates won't be applied. So what is the benefit of using that app? I am just asking if i am missing anything?
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What is the difference between disabling bloatware using settings app and by using Samsung package disabler? I mean why install another app to just disable stuff which you can easily achieve using settings app. In both cases space will be used, app updates won't be applied. So what is the benefit of using that app? I am just asking if i am missing anything?
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There are lots of Samsung apps that you can't uninstall or disable. By settings app you mean the native phone settings for apps? Also with package disabler you can very quickly trial and undo things incase you see negative impacts
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There are lots of Samsung apps that you can't uninstall or disable. By settings app you mean the native phone settings for apps? Also with package disabler you can very quickly trial and undo things incase you see negative impacts
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Yes, native phone settings app won't let you disable certain samsung apps/services. Can you post the list of apps/services which are safe to disable. It would be helpful for me as well as others Thanks
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Yes, native phone settings app won't let you disable certain samsung apps/services. Can you post the list of apps/services which are safe to disable. It would be helpful for me as well as others Thanks
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Hi there I have attached 3 images showing which I have disabled with no bad side effects...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2Y1FzrMCgca8hic98
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9pWYbdAHyc9Zjeh49
https://photos.app.goo.gl/aPWX2HxwuH7cWBMM7
Hello guys. Does M51 have AOD?
illetyus said:
Hello guys. Does M51 have AOD?
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Yes :good:
mhp1995 said:
Try optimizing the apps by going into settings. Also try disabling the running of useless apps in background. I was also facing battery drain very fast but since i disabled background usage of useless apps and optimized the apps on battery, i am getting terrific results. Will post screenshots when i head back home.
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Will you have these screenshots 2 months later? hehehe
Lordgilmour said:
Hi there I have attached 3 images showing which I have disabled with no bad side effects...
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Which app do you use to disable packages on m51?
Lordgilmour said:
Hi there I have attached 3 images showing which I have disabled with no bad side effects...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2Y1FzrMCgca8hic98
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9pWYbdAHyc9Zjeh49
https://photos.app.goo.gl/aPWX2HxwuH7cWBMM7
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Hi! Can't you make a Scrolling screenshot in M51 to fit all in one image as you can in Realme phones?
hey can anyone post screensbot about battery life
xn0live said:
hey can anyone post screensbot about battery life
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