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A couple of months after using this case, i find that it has damaged my screen. The leather seam on the inside left surface has perhaps either deposited some oils or has caused abrasion to my handset. The screen now has a horizontal streak across its face. It won't come out through cleaning.
Any help, please?
Not happy.
Try strong alcohol from a pharmacy (booze won't do it, they might make it sticky)
Umm, alcohol, really? Curious, why do you say that?
I don't want to damage it further. Could alcohol?
Not exactly sure what has happened to the screen.
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Perhaps try something like Brasso Gadget Care? I find that works really well on screens.
Didnt you have a screen protector?
Ive been using that case for about the same time and mine is fine (I use a screen protector) I have a line across it but it wipes off.
I also dont put credit cards in it as I thought it would put added pressure on the screen, I just use it to hold a couple of my business cards.
I use alcohol on my laptop screen and it's not gorilla glass that I can tell you.
I use it because it evaporates quickly, doesn't leave stains or lines.
You want some Isopropyl Alcohol from the local chemist. Dilute with water. I use that on my monitor screen, cleaning thermal paste from my CPU, and my phone would be next.
Would alcohol damage the oleophobic coating?
Coedy said:
Didnt you have a screen protector?
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With a phone of this price, the first thing i have made is to buy one !
I don't understand why people doesn't do it automatically. A big scratch ? change the protection.. don't change the screen
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Would alcohol damage the oleophobic coating?
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I think so...
I don't use the unofficial, cheap leather cases. Purchased one for my Desire HD a few months ago, and the casing that holds the phone (attached to the "leather") was ridiculously tight. Took me 15 minutes to get it out of the thing...
If you're gonna get a case then get a decent, brand named leather case (with good reviews), an official Samsung mesh case or if your budget won't stretch then get a cheap silicone gel case off ebay (£2-3 tops) as i've bought a few for different handsets and they're always good value for money
I say dont waste your good alcohol on your Sammy but drink it yourself
Mine pops out in seconds without putting any extra stress on the phone
been using it for months now and no problems with it marking the screen (if you don't have a screen protector its your own fault) and in that time I've gaudy out of the case around 5times easily.
I wanted a case that gives good shock and screen protection, what better than a padded (plasticy fake)leather case? my phone fell out of my hoody pocket as I was going up some concrete stairs.it got almost every step and it's fine. A cheap silicone or samsung case would have resulted in a dead screen for sure..
Best£3 I've spent on a phone accessory.
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You want some Isopropyl Alcohol from the local chemist. Dilute with water. I use that on my monitor screen, cleaning thermal paste from my CPU, and my phone would be next.
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erm, i thought alcohol and water wouldn't mix with each other?
oyebto said:
erm, i thought alcohol and water wouldn't mix with each other?
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Yes they do mix. Vodka for example is 40% ethanol and 60% water.
I scratched my galaxy note screen with the S pen, I always keep my screen clean and I was playing "Draw Something" on it and while drawing for a second i felt a sandy grinding pressure when I used the pen, the next day I noticed I had scratched it.
My old DS and DS lite were also susceptible to this, but this thing has freaking gorilla glass and gets scratched by its own pen. It's a tiny scratch but noticeable only on bright backgrounds when using phone.
So be warned, I suggest not using the pen at all unless you have a protective film on it.
What's worse since it is gorilla glass it is next to impossible to polish the scratch out unless you have industrial equipment.
Ridiculous
thanks. I use my pen for Draw Something as well. But I do have a screen protector on there. Yeah it's really dumb that the pen can scratch the screen.
I'm just a bit disappointed by the build quality of my note. Considering I paid almost 700 usd for it.
The s pen physically cannot scratch the screen. The tip is not hard enough to do that period. If you have a minute piece of dirt/sand that's a hard mineral, which is easy to find in a pocket, on the screen when you use the pen the mineral under the tip of the pen can scratch the screen. Its very easy to do and happens all the time. Gorilla glass is scratch proof such as regular glass, but only scratch proof to certain things. A glass screen which by composition is a mineral of some type can be scratched by other minerals.
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The s pen physically cannot scratch the screen. The tip is not hard enough to do that period. If you have a minute piece of dirt/sand that's a hard mineral, which is easy to find in a pocket, on the screen when you use the pen the mineral under the tip of the pen can scratch the screen. Its very easy to do and happens all the time. Gorilla glass is scratch proof such as regular glass, but only scratch proof to certain things. A glass screen which by composition is a mineral of some type can be scratched by other minerals.
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Still doesn't change the fact that if you use S Pen, your screen will be scratched.
My old Nexus S never had any problems, and no protection. Never scratched. I guess this is why Steve Jobs hated pens.
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Still doesn't change the fact that if you use S Pen, your screen will be scratched.
My old Nexus S never had any problems, and no protection. Never scratched. I guess this is why Steve Jobs hated pens.
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Lol you miss the point I see. You could do the same scratching with your finger if the dirt/hard mineral gets under your finger. It could happen to any phone you just happened to be unlucky. I've been using the pen hardcore for almost 2 weeks now and the naked screen is immaculate. Clean the screen regularly and most people are just fine.
Edit: also just an fyi the ns had a softer screen than the note so the only reason why the note scratched versus the ns is the environment you keep it in and use it in.
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Wacom would never intentionally design a pen nib that would scratch (hardened) glass.
Basically, a harder than glass foreign object came between the pen nib and screen, therefore scratching it. That is why its standard practice in labs to use disposable cleaning tissues for cleaning microscope lenses - its far less likely to have foreign contaminants with disposables.
That is also why eye glasses and sun glasses tend to come with silk-like cleaning cloths as opposed to (superior) microfiber cloth. Silk is far less likely to "catch" and hold debris. So its less likely that you'll scratch anything after the second, third, and fourth uses.
This topic is a good warning, nonetheless. But its a bit misleading to blame the pen. The pen nib just opens the possibility of scratching. Its a (very) minute chance, but its higher than simply using your finger for using the screen.
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Pen nib alone cannot scratch the screen.
This is complete nonsense and looks like bull****. I many times strongly press S Pen on screen. I like some "action" games for S Pen, like "Fruit Ninja: PiB" and move my S Pen across the screen like crazy. Never got any scratches.
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This is complete nonsense and looks like bull****. I many times strongly press S Pen on screen. I like some "action" games for S Pen, like "Fruit Ninja: PiB" and move my S Pen across the screen like crazy. Never got any scratches.
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I thought the same thing when other people had their screen scratched, I was like what did they do with it... and now I got a scratch and can't believe it's from normal usage. Don't get me wrong, it's an excellent phone but gorilla glass for now is just a marketing gimmick.
Use protection guys.
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I thought the same thing when other people had their screen scratched, I was like what did they do with it... and now I got a scratch and can't believe it's from normal usage. Don't get me wrong, it's an excellent phone but gorilla glass for now is just a marketing gimmick.
Use protection guys.
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Lol, this guys either trolling or just plain ignorant...
If gorilla glass were a gimmick, it wouldn't be used by the best names in phones, namely HTC and Samsung. It is much stronger and more scratch resistant than plain glass.
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i have used s pen to take notes almost every day for more than 5 months and no single scratch from the pen.
unfortunately i did get some scratches from my keys ( ;-( )
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Lol you miss the point I see. You could do the same scratching with your finger if the dirt/hard mineral gets under your finger. It could happen to any phone you just happened to be unlucky. I've been using the pen hardcore for almost 2 weeks now and the naked screen is immaculate. Clean the screen regularly and most people are just fine.
Edit: also just an fyi the ns had a softer screen than the note so the only reason why the note scratched versus the ns is the environment you keep it in and use it in.
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hes not missing the point.. hes delivering it IMO.
I have a screen protector on my Gnote, the s-Pen scratches the hell out of it, In fact I had to replace it already because it had so many scratches.
I have too use the s-pen less and less because of this and it's frustrating. I contacted Samsung about this and the guy on the phone just kept saying they had a galaxy note there and the pen wasn't scratching the screen. Basically he couldn't get with the concept that mine could. Tried asking him if they would sort out a new pen, me thinking it's the pen that is at fault, but he was less than helpful in that regard.
Anyway, I can't really use the pen, I do but it does scratch the protector and I have to replace it after awhile. It come be a cheap screen protector, but I felt it was scratching the screen before hand as well.
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I have a screen protector on my Gnote, the s-Pen scratches the hell out of it, In fact I had to replace it already because it had so many scratches.
I have too use the s-pen less and less because of this and it's frustrating. I contacted Samsung about this and the guy on the phone just kept saying they had a galaxy note there and the pen wasn't scratching the screen. Basically he couldn't get with the concept that mine could. Tried asking him if they would sort out a new pen, me thinking it's the pen that is at fault, but he was less than helpful in that regard.
Anyway, I can't really use the pen, I do but it does scratch the protector and I have to replace it after awhile. It come be a cheap screen protector, but I felt it was scratching the screen before hand as well.
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ur talking about scratching the screen protector but it does not scratch the actual screen.
One of the best screen protector i used was matinfields(http://www.martinfields.com/). I used that with sonyericsson P800 and p910. not a single scratch with lots of mucking around on the screen.
Yes, the s-pen can scratch the screen, if there is sand/dust/grain (insert mineral of choice) between the tip and the screen. But then, everything can scratch the screen in that situation ;-)
My Ipad (no flame-war, please) has a bunch of scratches as well, just due to that reason. Personally I still choose to use screen protectors for that very reason. After having tested a bunch of different makes, I always return to Invisible Shield.
Looks really ugly during the first weeks of use (the pen doesn't scratch the protector but leaves visible pressure marks, meaning that you can see what you wrote)
After several weeks of use, those pressure marks are distributed evenly over the entire screen area and no longer noticeable...
everyone relax, the op is just pointing out the s pen can scratch the screen and to be careful.
you have to use your own head with this, anything you use can is susceptible to wear and scratch.
just use your head and stick a screen protector on it if you want to keep the glass mint!!!! stop blaming samsung or the OP for blasting the s-pen, its no ones fault, its the real world!
sigh... the stupidity of some of the users in the Note sub- forum here is very much astounding....
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everyone relax, the op is just pointing out the s pen can scratch the screen and to be careful.
you have to use your own head with this, anything you use can is susceptible to wear and scratch.
just use your head and stick a screen protector on it if you want to keep the glass mint!!!! stop blaming samsung or the OP for blasting the s-pen, its no ones fault, its the real world!
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Except that its not the note or s pens fault the OP and others get dirt/foreign object under the pen and then blame someone else other then themselves when they scratch the screen. Its not the notes screen or the pens fault you can't keep the screen and pen clean people. The title of this thread is misleading.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358493
The pen won't scratch your screen, if there's dust on it, then the pen could push the dust into the screen and the dust might scratch it. Keep the screen and pen clean and it shouldn't be a problem.
Ok so you bought a zenfone 3. Beautiful little piece of hardware isn't it ? The glass and metal design looks premium alright but it would be a pity if you got the screen all scratched or shattered. Remember that gorilla glass 3 is scratch resistant not scratch proof and it can be scratched quite easily by dust particles and sand. Also it can be easily shattered like any glass. Only sapphire glass can be called scratch proof but you won't see sapphire glass mass produced for smartphones screens any time soon because it's too expensive and very difficult to produce for larger surfaces.
So the best way to protect your precious screen is by applying a sheet of tempered glass. It has a higher scratch resistance than gorilla glass and it is designed to shatter on impact to dissipate the shock energy that would otherwise destroy the screen glass. It is very easy to apply on smartphones with flat screen surface but there's a catch. There is a new design that's being implemented on smartphones screens for a while now with curved margins and all which is generically called 2.5d glass. Zenfone 3 features such a screen. So what's the problem you may ask ?
Well long story short this means you can't apply a flat tempered glass on a screen with rounded margins without the manufacturer being forced to reduce its dimensions to only cover the flat surface, unless you can find a manufacturer that produces tempered glass with curved margins. So far I could only find such screen protectors for the Galaxy Edge series. They are nowhere to be found for our beloved asus zenfone 3 for example.
So yeah there are plenty of flat screen protectors for the zenfone 3. I myself got one from Nillkin. It is carefully dimensioned to only cover the lcd on the left and right margins. Problem is that the curvature of the screen starts somewhere from 1-2mm from the inner side of the lcd depending on the manufacturing tolerances. This means that even if you perfectly position the tempered glass there will still be 1-2mm on the margins that will hang in midair because it can't stick to the curvature. From what I could find this issue is commonly referred to as the "halo effect". And it's ugly as f*ck.
So there's good news and bad news. Good news is that I've found a way to properly apply the tempered glass even on the margins. Bad news is that you need some tools you won't find in the original package, namely a VISE (yes, that thing on the WinZIP icon) and SILICONE OIL or VASELINE (both have to be perfectly clear with absolutely no colour and make sure they don't change colour in time).
I only did this once with a Nillkin tempered glass for my ze520kl but it should work for any curved screen.
Ready ? Ok so go ahead and perform the steps as indicated on the original packaging (clean the screen with the alcohol wipe, dry the screen with the dry wipe, dedust the screen with the anti-static sticker, perfectly align the screen protector and apply it). Obviously it won't stick to the margins so here comes the hard part.
This is going to take a lot of patience but not much effort. The key to sticking to the margins is a lot of constant pressure and if that fails this is where the silicone oil comes in handy to fill the gap between the screen and screen protector.
So this is what I did to get a perfectly applied tempered glass on my zenfone 3.
-First I tried to fill the gap on the margins with a drop of silicon oil and then I applied pressure on the margin intermittently with my thumb to help the silicon oil to get inside the gap easier then I wiped the excess. The purpose of the silicone oil is to create a clear visco-elastic medium, a bridge if you like, for the light to travel between the screen and the screen protector without changing path (without too much refraction). Problem is that it can't fill the whole void and you still get a bit of halo here and there as there is still some air trapped within the adhesive.
-This is the part where the vise comes in handy. I strongly recommend you use a vise with rubber protection on the jaws (or whatever they're called). You could in theory do this with your thumbs but it is very hard and tiring and you can't apply constant pressure for a long time.
So I fitted a margin of the screen in the vise and tightened the jaws hardly enough to forcefully compress the adhesive and remove the air bubbles trapped inside but soft enough not to actually crack or damage the touchscreen. Then I left it in there for about 1 hour on each of the 4 sides. If there was still some air trapped in the adhesive I would apply some pressure with my thumb to stir it a little and then I put it back in the vise and leave it for a while longer until there would be no air left.
After 4-5 hours I got a perfectly applied screen protector on my zenfone 3 with no halo effect on the margins.
Since I've never done this before I have no idea how long this will last and if the problem will ever occur again. But if it does then all you need to do is just apply some more silicon oil periodically and you're done. There won't be the need for the vise anymore.
Good luck and I hope this bit of information will help someone in the long run to develop and perfect the method. I doubt the average user has a vise installed on his/her desk so this tutorial is mostly intended for the more savvy people. Don't blame me if it doesn't work for you or if you damaged your phone.
Also, I suspect that on various models of smartphones there won't be the need for the silicone oil and all you need is just some good constant pressure.
How's your screen faring without a protection? I've had this phone for 7 months but recently removed the protective glass due to small cracks at the edges. And now I regret what I did because I have a deep scratch that probably came from headphone jack when i kept both in the same pocket. The scratch is visible even without reflecting any sunlight on the screen. I'm totally disappointed because I thought the phone had some sort of older gorilla glass cover, gsmarena stated it had an unspecified gorilla glass version but it turns out that the phone DOES NOT have it. Probably should have done better research before buying because even redmi note 5 has gorilla glass 3 (listed on Corning's official website)
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Thats nuts, i dropped my phone when getting out of the car and it landed glass down and slid across the ground, i was gutted, but when i picked it up there was nothing on it. It sounds like the antiglare/fingerprint coating as been damaged, thats probably whats showing the as a scratch maybe? Found the best way is not to keep cleaning and rubbing on the screen, use my thumb or finger to clean it.
Mine is entirely scratch-free even after many months of use. Of course, cheaper large-ape-flavour glass may have less consistent quality of hardening. Perhaps yours came from a bad batch?
Hey Guys, how is your Honor Ultimate managing scratches? i don't use screenprotectors because they don't survive long. My front screen has a lot of tiny scractches already after few months! Only putting it in my front jean pocket alone without keys, nothing! Working at an Office so no important dirt!
Is it gorilla glas? i had lot of phones before doing exactly the same things, but the honor seems getting impacted worse!
And the cameralens at the back has 2 deep scratches! how is this possible?
You experiencing the same thing?
Yeah that sucks...
Sand is almost always the culprit. One grain is all it takes. Sand is found just about everywhere.
Grit from granite bedrock will do it too. Pockets tend to collect debris and some of it may be hard enough to scratch glass. Loose pockets work better.
Any fine grit on your finger tip can do it. If water is present it acts as a cutting lubricant for any abrasives present. Brass keys are too soft to scratch glass.
Without a screen protector scratches are par for the course and it doesn't matter which type of glass as all will scratch to a greater or lesser extent.
Finding the right protector and applying are a true pain. I like the water based hydrogel ones.
Selection and availability depends on the phone make/model.
I've had mine for roughly a month here so far so good. Are you using a case on yours? I've been using the one that came with the phone and ordered a new case that I plan to use with it. I always wipe my screen with microfiber cloth and try to put it in a non abrasive pocket etc.