I scratched my galaxy note screen with the S pen, I always keep my screen clean and I was playing "Draw Something" on it and while drawing for a second i felt a sandy grinding pressure when I used the pen, the next day I noticed I had scratched it.
My old DS and DS lite were also susceptible to this, but this thing has freaking gorilla glass and gets scratched by its own pen. It's a tiny scratch but noticeable only on bright backgrounds when using phone.
So be warned, I suggest not using the pen at all unless you have a protective film on it.
What's worse since it is gorilla glass it is next to impossible to polish the scratch out unless you have industrial equipment.
Ridiculous
thanks. I use my pen for Draw Something as well. But I do have a screen protector on there. Yeah it's really dumb that the pen can scratch the screen.
I'm just a bit disappointed by the build quality of my note. Considering I paid almost 700 usd for it.
The s pen physically cannot scratch the screen. The tip is not hard enough to do that period. If you have a minute piece of dirt/sand that's a hard mineral, which is easy to find in a pocket, on the screen when you use the pen the mineral under the tip of the pen can scratch the screen. Its very easy to do and happens all the time. Gorilla glass is scratch proof such as regular glass, but only scratch proof to certain things. A glass screen which by composition is a mineral of some type can be scratched by other minerals.
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The s pen physically cannot scratch the screen. The tip is not hard enough to do that period. If you have a minute piece of dirt/sand that's a hard mineral, which is easy to find in a pocket, on the screen when you use the pen the mineral under the tip of the pen can scratch the screen. Its very easy to do and happens all the time. Gorilla glass is scratch proof such as regular glass, but only scratch proof to certain things. A glass screen which by composition is a mineral of some type can be scratched by other minerals.
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Still doesn't change the fact that if you use S Pen, your screen will be scratched.
My old Nexus S never had any problems, and no protection. Never scratched. I guess this is why Steve Jobs hated pens.
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Still doesn't change the fact that if you use S Pen, your screen will be scratched.
My old Nexus S never had any problems, and no protection. Never scratched. I guess this is why Steve Jobs hated pens.
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Lol you miss the point I see. You could do the same scratching with your finger if the dirt/hard mineral gets under your finger. It could happen to any phone you just happened to be unlucky. I've been using the pen hardcore for almost 2 weeks now and the naked screen is immaculate. Clean the screen regularly and most people are just fine.
Edit: also just an fyi the ns had a softer screen than the note so the only reason why the note scratched versus the ns is the environment you keep it in and use it in.
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Wacom would never intentionally design a pen nib that would scratch (hardened) glass.
Basically, a harder than glass foreign object came between the pen nib and screen, therefore scratching it. That is why its standard practice in labs to use disposable cleaning tissues for cleaning microscope lenses - its far less likely to have foreign contaminants with disposables.
That is also why eye glasses and sun glasses tend to come with silk-like cleaning cloths as opposed to (superior) microfiber cloth. Silk is far less likely to "catch" and hold debris. So its less likely that you'll scratch anything after the second, third, and fourth uses.
This topic is a good warning, nonetheless. But its a bit misleading to blame the pen. The pen nib just opens the possibility of scratching. Its a (very) minute chance, but its higher than simply using your finger for using the screen.
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Pen nib alone cannot scratch the screen.
This is complete nonsense and looks like bull****. I many times strongly press S Pen on screen. I like some "action" games for S Pen, like "Fruit Ninja: PiB" and move my S Pen across the screen like crazy. Never got any scratches.
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This is complete nonsense and looks like bull****. I many times strongly press S Pen on screen. I like some "action" games for S Pen, like "Fruit Ninja: PiB" and move my S Pen across the screen like crazy. Never got any scratches.
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I thought the same thing when other people had their screen scratched, I was like what did they do with it... and now I got a scratch and can't believe it's from normal usage. Don't get me wrong, it's an excellent phone but gorilla glass for now is just a marketing gimmick.
Use protection guys.
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I thought the same thing when other people had their screen scratched, I was like what did they do with it... and now I got a scratch and can't believe it's from normal usage. Don't get me wrong, it's an excellent phone but gorilla glass for now is just a marketing gimmick.
Use protection guys.
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Lol, this guys either trolling or just plain ignorant...
If gorilla glass were a gimmick, it wouldn't be used by the best names in phones, namely HTC and Samsung. It is much stronger and more scratch resistant than plain glass.
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i have used s pen to take notes almost every day for more than 5 months and no single scratch from the pen.
unfortunately i did get some scratches from my keys ( ;-( )
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Lol you miss the point I see. You could do the same scratching with your finger if the dirt/hard mineral gets under your finger. It could happen to any phone you just happened to be unlucky. I've been using the pen hardcore for almost 2 weeks now and the naked screen is immaculate. Clean the screen regularly and most people are just fine.
Edit: also just an fyi the ns had a softer screen than the note so the only reason why the note scratched versus the ns is the environment you keep it in and use it in.
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hes not missing the point.. hes delivering it IMO.
I have a screen protector on my Gnote, the s-Pen scratches the hell out of it, In fact I had to replace it already because it had so many scratches.
I have too use the s-pen less and less because of this and it's frustrating. I contacted Samsung about this and the guy on the phone just kept saying they had a galaxy note there and the pen wasn't scratching the screen. Basically he couldn't get with the concept that mine could. Tried asking him if they would sort out a new pen, me thinking it's the pen that is at fault, but he was less than helpful in that regard.
Anyway, I can't really use the pen, I do but it does scratch the protector and I have to replace it after awhile. It come be a cheap screen protector, but I felt it was scratching the screen before hand as well.
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I have a screen protector on my Gnote, the s-Pen scratches the hell out of it, In fact I had to replace it already because it had so many scratches.
I have too use the s-pen less and less because of this and it's frustrating. I contacted Samsung about this and the guy on the phone just kept saying they had a galaxy note there and the pen wasn't scratching the screen. Basically he couldn't get with the concept that mine could. Tried asking him if they would sort out a new pen, me thinking it's the pen that is at fault, but he was less than helpful in that regard.
Anyway, I can't really use the pen, I do but it does scratch the protector and I have to replace it after awhile. It come be a cheap screen protector, but I felt it was scratching the screen before hand as well.
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ur talking about scratching the screen protector but it does not scratch the actual screen.
One of the best screen protector i used was matinfields(http://www.martinfields.com/). I used that with sonyericsson P800 and p910. not a single scratch with lots of mucking around on the screen.
Yes, the s-pen can scratch the screen, if there is sand/dust/grain (insert mineral of choice) between the tip and the screen. But then, everything can scratch the screen in that situation ;-)
My Ipad (no flame-war, please) has a bunch of scratches as well, just due to that reason. Personally I still choose to use screen protectors for that very reason. After having tested a bunch of different makes, I always return to Invisible Shield.
Looks really ugly during the first weeks of use (the pen doesn't scratch the protector but leaves visible pressure marks, meaning that you can see what you wrote)
After several weeks of use, those pressure marks are distributed evenly over the entire screen area and no longer noticeable...
everyone relax, the op is just pointing out the s pen can scratch the screen and to be careful.
you have to use your own head with this, anything you use can is susceptible to wear and scratch.
just use your head and stick a screen protector on it if you want to keep the glass mint!!!! stop blaming samsung or the OP for blasting the s-pen, its no ones fault, its the real world!
sigh... the stupidity of some of the users in the Note sub- forum here is very much astounding....
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everyone relax, the op is just pointing out the s pen can scratch the screen and to be careful.
you have to use your own head with this, anything you use can is susceptible to wear and scratch.
just use your head and stick a screen protector on it if you want to keep the glass mint!!!! stop blaming samsung or the OP for blasting the s-pen, its no ones fault, its the real world!
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Except that its not the note or s pens fault the OP and others get dirt/foreign object under the pen and then blame someone else other then themselves when they scratch the screen. Its not the notes screen or the pens fault you can't keep the screen and pen clean people. The title of this thread is misleading.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358493
The pen won't scratch your screen, if there's dust on it, then the pen could push the dust into the screen and the dust might scratch it. Keep the screen and pen clean and it shouldn't be a problem.
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To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
man... although a simple glass wont scratch with nothing in your pocket..
Maybe someone touched it when you didnt know, or something happened.
I've been using my vibrant for about three weeks now and have no scratches, only some marks on the battery cover.
The samsung vibrant does indeed have gorilla glass. Just because it has gorilla glass doesn't mean its un -scratchable. It just means it's more resistant than regular glass...if you don't mind me asking...what did you have in your pockets? A machete? A light saber?!...I kid, I kid...the morale of this story is, get a screen protector, prevent your vibrant from getting scathed by a light saber!
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whether it has Gorilla glass or not, this is the FIRST phone that ended up with deep scratch only after a month of use.
I really dont care, i got it replaced and finally bought screen protector that i really like. (anti glare and anti fingerprint)
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Goog1e Phone said:
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
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Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
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with anti-glare and anti-fingerprint you will always tell that its there. i personally dont like reflective screens or screen protectors so my anti-glare and anti-fingerprint work great.
lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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+1 not a scratch.
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
that sucks man, i would be pissed too.
but what did it get scratched on? must have had something in your pocket with it...?
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To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
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Interesting post...I'm actually a screen protector freak and have ordered multiple brands of screen protectors for the Vibrant (actually even Galaxy S just to try it...) so I'm all FOR screen protectors...best one so far is from Korea.
About your scratch...unless there's a scratch fairy, there is SOMETHING that caused that scratch. It may be foreign to you because you may not have known when it happened...It's highly possible someone else without your knowledge was the cause of it. Scratches just don't appear out of thin air...
Bottom line...the glass on the Samsung is solid...very solid...I've dropped my phone before so I know first hand how durable the glass is...it's some tough $#!t....
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Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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Its just the way of the world. If you put a screen protector on, soon after you take it off your will get scratched.
If you put it in a case, soon after you take it off you'll drop your phone. Call it karma, or just dumb luck, but it always seems to happen this way
PaiPiePia said:
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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If someone can do a key test we all can find out for sure
I've put this phones in my pocket with keys many times, dropped it several times, not a scratch yet. Whatever it's made of, it's pretty tough.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
I don't use a sp, but my phone still looks brand new.. No sp, no case, usually keep my phone in my pocket when walking around. Screen is still smooth a glass. Could samsung have used different materials depending on when it was built, kind of like the problem with the shortage if amoled screens?
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I actually dropped my phone on one of those concrete roads in a way that send the phone sliding on the concrete several feet face down. All 4 corners of the phone's bezel show scratches but nothing on the screen itself.
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People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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I agree 100%!!!!
I put my first one on backwards and complained to them about not having standard directions. (You take the plastic covers off in reverse?) I did not read the instructions, but they still sent me three free new ones.
Great company, great screen protectors.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
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I would never personally do this, and a 3 dollar screen protector to protect the integrity of a very sweet piece of equipment, is a very small price to pay.
I just find it hard to believe that with only cloth surrounding it it got scratched. Not even lint in your pocket? I call BS
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Does any one had scratches appearing on the screens glass of the Galaxy Nexus?
, few days back i have noticed one noticeable scratch on the screen , strange as i am treating my Nexus very carefully.
My galaxy S which has the gorilla glass never had scratches and it is now more than 6 months old.
Little bit disappointing as it is very new phone with couple of weeks use. who know if there will be more scratches in the future!! Hope not
Just dropped mine 5ft to the pavement landed face first and the battery cover came off. It's still flawless I don't know how but it is.... I was expecting it to be cracked but I'm pretty impressed!
Yeah, I've got a few scratches. Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364252
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I have mine in my pocket all the time and it's perfectly fine,not even one scratch.
i used my gn with the screen film still on it for over a week until i got my screen protectors in the mail, no glass screen is unscratchable/unbreakable. there are plenty of substances around that will scratch gorilla glass (eg sand) and if even a tiny bit ends up in your pocket, better have a screen protector!
Yea my original G2x had 2 tiny micro scratches on it. Not noticable unless viewing a white background, more commonly when viewing webpages before they fully load.
The LG Updater bricked mine and got an exchange. Haven't had a problem with my new one but just goes to show.
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i used my gn with the screen film still on it for over a week until i got my screen protectors in the mail, no glass screen is unscratchable/unbreakable. there are plenty of substances around that will scratch gorilla glass (eg sand) and if even a tiny bit ends up in your pocket, better have a screen protector!
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Wise advice here, but nobody sells screen protectors for the nexus where I am. I've ordered some online and I'll be taking it to a professional to get stuck on (every time I do it I leave bubbles; yes I've watched numerous instructional videos alas I cannot do it) - I've only ordered three protectors, hopefully that is more than enough.
All the screen (even Gorilla) would have chance to get scratches...
always get a screen protector for your couple-hundred phone
Yeah I'm gonna have to get some too. I always take extreme care of my phones (whether in my pocket or out) and it already has a small, yet noticeable scratch on the bottom. Definitely need a ZAGG or the like
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3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
I've been rocking my Incredible since day one without screen protection and it's still mint. (besides a complete crack in upper right corner (in an area that is beyond the display) from one of the worse drops, which was more of a drunken throw). I really hope that the Nexus can handle my lifestyle, but sounds like this thread is reporting mixed reviews. I refuse to wear a condom so I hope I get one of the good ones...
p.s. I surf alot in the summer and sand all over but still no scratches. I guess it has to hit with the right angle and friction???
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I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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One grain of sand or salt + friction (i.e. pocket) and even the Gorilla Glass 2 on the RAZR gets scratched.
You can run a key across the screen all day long, but it only take a granule of something to etch a deep scratch.
If u get a decent screen protector and install it well (I know it ain't easy) it will look/feel as good as the naked glass, and then u dont have to worry - and in a year when u pull it off, the glass will be PERFECT. Small price to pay. The Galaxy Nexus is so thin that with a slim TPU case it's still crazy thin, and you will keep it in perfect condition
I agree Gorilla is scratchable but much harder to get scratched than other glass.
Does anyone have suggestion of good screen protector? And from where to get?
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kojaraty said:
I agree Gorilla is scratchable but much harder to get scratched than other glass.
Does anyone have suggestion of good screen protector? And from where to get?
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I'm currently using the Verizon ones, but just ordered some SGP Olephobic ones:
http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-nexus-screen-protector-steinheil-series.html
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I'm currently using the Verizon ones, but just ordered some SGP Olephobic ones:
http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-nexus-screen-protector-steinheil-series.html
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I'm sorry to say, but you should have ordered the SGP Flex instead. The Ultra Oleophobic ones don't extend to the edge of the screen, because they use the dry adhesive method, and if they went right to the edge of the curved screen they would peel.
Frankly, it looks pretty ugly having a band around the edge that's not covered. Plus, because they don't extend to the edges, it's much more noticeable if you get it off centre.
As mentioned in the other thread i have a couple of tiny scratches after 3 weeks of use and never ever putting anything else in my pocket with it. Disappointing.
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3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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Couldn't agree more. I was the same way with both my Fascinate and now my charge. Neither device has gotten a single scratch.
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vapotrini said:
3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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Sand will scratch sand will scratch sand will scratch sand. What do I mean by that? ALL glass (including Gorilla Glass and its differently arranged superficial crystalline structure) is the same molecule- SiO2 or "silica." Is there variation within silica? - yes, but minutely.
[good read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness Geology and Mineralogy have huge unrealized relevancy in everyday life- just like under-appreciated physics] The variation will not give silica the hardness of say, "topaz" (at 8 on the scale), but rather is usually due to impurities (additional minerals) that weaken it down to ~ 6 or so. Gorilla Glass seems to be a purified silica, maxing out at 7 hardness. Quartz crystals (what we call "sand") also usually sits at 7 (chemical weathering can both purify and contaminate depending upon the situation), and do not have to be just "sand" like beach/desert sand. Sand is a size classification, you also have "silt" which is just smaller (down to microscopic) quartz crystals, and is "aerial saltating" (airborne- carried by the air but not in solution with it). Many other minerals may be present in the "cloud" that hovers about <50' from the earth's surface due to weathering that will scratch just about anything, so "grit" is a huge issue for ANY screen. Gorilla Glass is nicer than other glass types (although according to the Vickers scale Corning uses, not by much), but it is not invincible and items that can/will scratch are much too common to be flippantly dismissed. Also good reads in these comments: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/mfskn/galaxy_nexus_no_gorilla_glass_no_problem/
Buy a screen protector, even if you have Gorilla Glass...
Just get a high end screen protector like xoskins on there. They fill in scratches. Their video shows it pretty well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMRO4OiXw4
Giving a quick review of the ArmorSuit Screen protector for the T-Mobile GSII SGH-T989. I got it from Amazon the other day for $9.00 and thought I would help out anyone seeking quality screen protection beyond the gorilla glass.
Link for screen protector
If you read the product description it will give you the rundown. I'll give you my opinions of it. First, the self healing claim is for the most part true. It scratched pretty bad when I was applying it but they all went away within a day. Installation was a breeze, just follow the instructions and watch the install video. I did find that at the top of the screen (where the front camera is) the protector just ends rather than going over the camera. I'm not sure if there is any benefit but it does seem like it will be a nuissance in the future because this is where it will start to peel (if anywhere.) Pictures are included.
Picture 2: There is absolutely no change in the quality of screen viewing.
Is there a lot of fingerprints and oil?
I have the zagg right now, that's what i freaking hate!!!!
the screen always is sooooo oily
kvizz said:
Is there a lot of fingerprints and oil?
I have the zagg right now, that's what i freaking hate!!!!
the screen always is sooooo oily
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Looks to be similar to the zagg. I have one too and I don't think it's that bad.
then again, I'm not that 'oily' as a person...
On the plus side, it looks a lot less orange peely than the zagg.
Off topic...what ROM/launcher are you using?
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Is there a lot of fingerprints and oil?
I have the zagg right now, that's what i freaking hate!!!!
the screen always is sooooo oily
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I haven't noticed anything beyond what the standard glass would have. If anything, I would say it is slightly more tacky but I'm sure that that will go away with time.
IMO you're putting plastic over glass.. Unless its in a car and its tinted its a waste.
They used to do it with TV's now TV's are being made with Gorilla glass.
Oils, smudges and so on..
No thanks..
No plastic will protect gorilla glass
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fastfed said:
IMO you're putting plastic over glass.. Unless its in a car and its tinted its a waste.
No plastic will protect gorilla glass
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This is incorrect. Plastic will protect the glass from any random things that would otherwise damage the glass. It is well understood by now that gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof. By adding this plastic cover you increase the compression in which an object can penetrate before hitting the screen. This increases the time the object has to transmit it's energy into the phone and by using the formula for kinetic energy (KE=.5mv²) you will notice that it will lower the velocity of impact. This results in a compression which will lower the KE before whatever may scratch the screen actual scratches it, therefore concluding that the screen protector does protect the gorilla glass.
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This is incorrect. Plastic will protect the glass from any random things that would otherwise damage the glass. It is well understood by now that gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof. By adding this plastic cover you increase the compression in which an object can penetrate before hitting the screen. This increases the time the object has to transmit it's energy into the phone and by using the formula for kinetic energy (KE=.5mv²) you will notice that it will lower the velocity of impact. This results in a compression which will lower the KE before whatever may scratch the screen actual scratches it, therefore concluding that the screen protector does protect the gorilla glass.
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LOL whatever... Mr.Wizard..
Either way, its like putting plastic around a bullet proof glass..
IMO they are not needed anymore at all. Keys,wallet clips, concrete will not scratch the gorilla glass, so anymore more than that is a catastrophic failure that no plastic will really help..
Either way, like I said, some people like to put ugly oil attractive plastic on their phones.. More power to them
Gorilla glass scratches easier than u think my wife has a good scratch on her screen from leaving the phone in her purse
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fastfed said:
LOL whatever... Mr.Wizard..
Either way, its like putting plastic around a bullet proof glass..
IMO they are not needed anymore at all. Keys,wallet clips, concrete will not scratch the gorilla glass, so anymore more than that is a catastrophic failure that no plastic will really help..
Either way, like I said, some people like to put ugly oil attractive plastic on their phones.. More power to them
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Plenty of people have scratched their gorilla glass screens from everyday use such as putting the phone in the same pocket as keys or change. Google it.
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G1ForFun said:
Plenty of people have scratched their gorilla glass screens from everyday use such as putting the phone in the same pocket as keys or change. Google it.
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I have..
But that argument doesn't really work because I can say Google the strength of Gorilla glass.
You will see people taking X-Acto knives to them.. People take hammers and so on..
I've had my evo for almost 2 years, with NO gorilla glass, never had a protector on it..
Tight jeans in pockets (retro, lol) with keys, with a METAL clip as a wallet, never NOT ONCE did it get a single scratch..
IMO it takes a lot! a real lot to scratch glass, GLASS, regular glass, not including Gorilla glass..
My evo did scratch though, riding on my bike at 25mph I dropped it like an idiot taking it out of its mount.. On the asphalt it dragged about 50 feet glass down.
Either way, plastic or not, it would of went right through a dinky piece of plastic.
Either way, I know some people want it, I just think its complete over kill and makes the phone feel/look weird..
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I have..
But that argument doesn't really work because I can say Google the strength of Gorilla glass.
You will see people taking X-Acto knives to them.. People take hammers and so on..
I've had my evo for almost 2 years, with NO gorilla glass, never had a protector on it..
Tight jeans in pockets (retro, lol) with keys, with a METAL clip as a wallet, never NOT ONCE did it get a single scratch..
IMO it takes a lot! a real lot to scratch glass, GLASS, regular glass, not including Gorilla glass..
My evo did scratch though, riding on my bike at 25mph I dropped it like an idiot taking it out of its mount.. On the asphalt it dragged about 50 feet glass down.
Either way, plastic or not, it would of went right through a dinky piece of plastic.
Either way, I know some people want it, I just think its complete over kill and makes the phone feel/look weird..
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actually i go through a lot of phones. I buy and resell gs2's all the time.. And the skyrocket.. I have to say. The glass does get scratched. out of 7 phones I've seen 5 of them scratched. It can only resist a scratch for so long. It might not be a deep scratch, but with the correct angle and lighting, you can see the scratches.
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Oh i would like to add that it also helps the screen from shattering a bit too.. It might not be much, but it definitely helps.
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I'll take that as a compliment.
Any screen protector adds value, but it's pros vs cons.
Even Corning's CES videos show that gorilla glass is NOT scratch proof. Where? They sand blasted it in the circled area to show 'wear'. Personally I think it is easily enough to simulate without going to that extreme by using a decent grit sandpaper and rubbing it over the screen for a few minutes with moderate force.
I also like the tacky feeling the zagg adds, so I don't see a reason to not have a screen protector in addition to whatever proprietary strength glass is on it's face.
Looks impresive probably will get it.
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Looks to be similar to the zagg. I have one too and I don't think it's that bad.
then again, I'm not that 'oily' as a person...
On the plus side, it looks a lot less orange peely than the zagg.
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I have..
But that argument doesn't really work because I can say Google the strength of Gorilla glass.
You will see people taking X-Acto knives to them.. People take hammers and so on..
I've had my evo for almost 2 years, with NO gorilla glass, never had a protector on it..
Tight jeans in pockets (retro, lol) with keys, with a METAL clip as a wallet, never NOT ONCE did it get a single scratch..
IMO it takes a lot! a real lot to scratch glass, GLASS, regular glass, not including Gorilla glass..
My evo did scratch though, riding on my bike at 25mph I dropped it like an idiot taking it out of its mount.. On the asphalt it dragged about 50 feet glass down.
Either way, plastic or not, it would of went right through a dinky piece of plastic.
Either way, I know some people want it, I just think its complete over kill and makes the phone feel/look weird..
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Say that to my optimus v, have been using it for past year with no scratches and still going, sometimes i throw it at the floor with otterbox on and its like a bouncy ball. Nothing happend to it..... 3rd day on my galaxy s2 using it normally in the same pocket i had my optimus in and same exact jeans and it got scratched. Better be safe than have a phone that you won't like anymore.
For those who think Gorilla glass is scratch-free, try rubbing a few grains of beach sand on the screen. Come back tell me how you feel Ok!
Why not just keep one pocket dedicated to your phone and nothing else? I keep my phone in my front right pocket every single day and have never once scratched it... no stinking screen protector.
So... I've had my GN2 for exactly 2 weeks. I got a flip cover bundled with it, I figured the combination of the cover and my pocket would be sufficient protection from scratches. I clean the cover constantly to make sure there's no grit on it, and I wipe down the screen a couple times a day, because with my Galaxy S, I started noticing little knicks right away.
Checked the screen yesterday... aaaaand it's scratched. They're very light scratches, but they're long, and the screen has never touched anything but my finger, the pen, and the felt cover. For a device that's meant for use with a stylus, and especially for one with such a huge screen, I expected more.
Honestly, I think a screen protector would cover the scratches up. Long story short, if you're a stickler for surface quality, don't trust Gorilla Glass. I'm really surprised that this is still an issue. We're on what now, gorilla glass 4?
Well its GorillaGlass 2 on our devices
And However annoying, hairline scratches, (the ones visible only by angling your device at a light source for reflection) are perfectly normal.
I myself have actually taken a scalpel to gorilla glass in the past and left nothing more than hairline scratches indistinguishable from the other barely noticeable ones.
Old style glass (or iPhone glass) would've been done for
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If you expect perfection you should have a screen protector like me. I'm exactly the same way, and I had the screen protectors before I had my phone. Gorilla glass can be EASILY scratched by sand. It's just a fact of life. If it's the same hardness or harder than the Gorilla glass you can scratch it with it. And sand is usually quartz, which is the same hardness as gorilla glass.
if it's in your pocket, maybe a sand or something like it, you know that sand is pretty much stronger than metals.
Sounds like some grit got into a pocket. The stuff doesn't magically scratch itself.
Ok, update. I realized that the scratches are right where I slide my thumb to unlock the phone. I'm gonna guess that the Note has some kind of extra coating for smoother stylus use, which isn't as hard as the glass itself. I can't decide if this warrants a screen protector, which could sacrifice clarity and pen usability.
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Ok, update. I realized that the scratches are right where I slide my thumb to unlock the phone. I'm gonna guess that the Note has some kind of extra coating for smoother stylus use, which isn't as hard as the glass itself. I can't decide if this warrants a screen protector, which could sacrifice clarity and pen usability.
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you can always get glass protector like GLAS.t and you won't sacrifice clarity or pen usability.
Jergling said:
Ok, update. I realized that the scratches are right where I slide my thumb to unlock the phone. I'm gonna guess that the Note has some kind of extra coating for smoother stylus use, which isn't as hard as the glass itself. I can't decide if this warrants a screen protector, which could sacrifice clarity and pen usability.
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Screen protector dose not bother S-pen, or clarity on the screen.
These are what I use. And they're guaranteed for life!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AGABISW/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1365183403&sr=8-1&pi=SL75
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I just looked at the screen in the sun. There's a scratch for just about every time I've unlocked the phone, so either I'm growing cubic zirconium out of my skin, or something's wrong here. Not that growing cubic zirconium out of my skin would be normal.
Thanks for the suggestions. Hopefully the adhesive of the scene protector will fill in the scratches.
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So... I've had my GN2 for exactly 2 weeks. I got a flip cover bundled with it, I figured the combination of the cover and my pocket would be sufficient protection from scratches. I clean the cover constantly to make sure there's no grit on it, and I wipe down the screen a couple times a day, because with my Galaxy S, I started noticing little knicks right away.
Checked the screen yesterday... aaaaand it's scratched. They're very light scratches, but they're long, and the screen has never touched anything but my finger, the pen, and the felt cover. For a device that's meant for use with a stylus, and especially for one with such a huge screen, I expected more.
Honestly, I think a screen protector would cover the scratches up. Long story short, if you're a stickler for surface quality, don't trust Gorilla Glass. I'm really surprised that this is still an issue. We're on what now, gorilla glass 4?
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Yup, sand is tougher than the glass on any cellphone I've used so far. I hate screen protectors, but after the mess I made of my Galaxy Nexus and Iphone 4, I didn't even leave the mall without half ass putting a cheap screen protector on.
+1 on Screen protector. I also waited 1 week before I started using my note2 just to wait for my case to arrive. Oh that was a very tough waiting period.
I don't use my spen too much either.. came from skyrocket so I'm accustomed to just using my fingers.
No screen protectors don't sacrifice clarity or pen usability
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Weird, haven't used a screen protector on my Note or S3 and no issues here. Did the angeling in the light and everything. I guess I am that lucky?
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I work in a steel fabrication area, with microscopic dust particles everywhere. And to my surprise no scratch damage is present.
There is no screen protector on the device, and I never wipe the screen at work.
When I get home, I'll shower then use the damp towel to clean the device.
So far the glass seems okay.
The stories of this glass being soft are puzzling me a bit, as they seem to swing wildly to both ends of the quality spectrum.
I suppose only time will tell for me on this one. But so far it's doing well. ...g
I use outterbox and also a screen protector, and I haven't notice lost of anything. Only thing i don't like is outter box screen sometimes gets humidity in it.
Anyone else finding that their s6 scratches easily? This is the second s6 phone I had and just being in my pocket with nothing else scratches the screen pretty bad. I have multiple scratches just from my drivers license rubbing against the screen using those wallet cases.
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Anyone else finding that their s6 scratches easily? This is the second s6 phone I had and just being in my pocket with nothing else scratches the screen pretty bad. I have multiple scratches just from my drivers license rubbing against the screen using those wallet cases.
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Finding this hard to believe????
https://youtu.be/J7-lhmW34CI?t=21s
Not easy at all. I dropped my edge in a jacket pocket...after 30 min I realized something rattles there...the phone was around 30 min vs my K-Box lmao
Guess what...non even micro sh!t on it.
But you never know...the dust under the case may do a bad things
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Finding this hard to believe????
https://youtu.be/J7-lhmW34CI?t=21s
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WOW
konga056 said:
Anyone else finding that their s6 scratches easily? This is the second s6 phone I had and just being in my pocket with nothing else scratches the screen pretty bad. I have multiple scratches just from my drivers license rubbing against the screen using those wallet cases.
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Exactly the opposite. Are you just trolling for comments? What the Hell is your drivers license made of ? STEEL? You may want to go get a new license made because having a steel license is about as normal as this phone being easily scratched.
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Exactly the opposite. Are you just trolling for comments? What the Hell is your drivers license made of ? STEEL? You may want to go get a new license made because having a steel license is about as normal as this phone being easily scratched.
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No need to be rude about it. I'm not trolling and I'm being dead serious that two of my phones was scratched from both being in my jean front pocket with nothing else and from using this case with a PLASTIC drivers license. I just wanted to see if this was a common thing with other owners.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UKFI5W0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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No need to be rude about it. I'm not trolling and I'm being dead serious that two of my phones was scratched from both being in my jean front pocket with nothing else and from using this case with a PLASTIC drivers license. I just wanted to see if this was a common thing with other owners.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UKFI5W0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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It must have been something else that scratched it because otherwise the phone is not genuine. Part of the reason I never use screen protectors is because corning glass has a high resistance to scratching. Notice how everyone else finds it hard to believe. Its because this glass is hard to scratch. I wasnt trying to be rude , I was just astonished that you were having this issue when I have seen drop test of this phone flat on its face that cause little to no scratching at all. I hope you find a resolution to your problem and would be curious to know if some of the glass was not treated properly and is more prone to scratching . I guess there is always a chance the corning released a defective batch of glass that was shipped to your area
I use mine without screen protector, do not remember seeing any scratches on day1(other than ones that were from manufacturing defect as we suspect from the thread in other forum).
Now, after almost a month, I have 3 very fine scratches. I use one of my pockets just for phone and never dropped it so I am sure sand/fine dust particles caused those new fine scratches. Its not a huge deal as you can't feel them with fingernails but see them in sunlight or yellow light very easily.
And to OP, here's another person that has issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/gorilla-glass-4-perfect-screen-t3094683
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Anyone else finding that their s6 scratches easily? This is the second s6 phone I had and just being in my pocket with nothing else scratches the screen pretty bad. I have multiple scratches just from my drivers license rubbing against the screen using those wallet cases.
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No scratches on mine and I've had it since April 10th. I carry it my purse and jacket pocket with no screen protector. I'm honestly not understanding how people are commenting on having scratched up phones. Did you purchase your phone directly through T-Mobile pre-official release date?
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No scratches on mine and I've had it since April 10th. I carry it my purse and jacket pocket with no screen protector. I'm honestly not understanding how people are commenting on having scratched up phones. Did you purchase your phone directly through T-Mobile pre-official release date?
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I honestly wonder the same thing, but a lot people say their screen just got scratched out of the blue. They don't tell you that they keep the phone in the same pocket with their keys and stuff. I keep my phone in my pockets also but it's always the only thing in that pocket. I won't even put change or anything in the same pocket. Had mine since day 1 and no scratches here either.
I've had the S4, S5 and now the S6e. I carried all in the same conditions: front-right pocket, no case, no screen protection, nothing else in the pocket. Ever. Neither my S4 and S5 never had a single scratch. Ever.
But after one day, my S6e had developed tiny "scratches" all across the entire front surface. The catch: these are only visible in bright sunlight at specific harsh angles. Perhaps those here stating, "I have no scratches, you're doing it wrong!" have not been fully evaluating theirs under bright sunlight like this?
But, as others have stated, this is somewhat disappointing.
In fact, it seems, when pressing on the front of the screen with my fingers, it seems rather flexible. It seems almost like the new GorillaGlass4 is more like GorillaPlastic4.
So, I'm hoping it's just this oleophobic coating?
Usually this is from silica being sandwiched between the screen and another object followed by the application of pressure. GG4 has roughly twice the resistance to abrasion compared to the GG3 in objective testing exhibiting scratch depths slightly less than half the depth of GG3 when tested with the same object and applied pressure.
I know this is not what someone who is looking at a scratched screen wants to hear but there is no technology that can prevent all scratches at the time. GG4 is better than its predecessors but by no means perfect.
At least this phone isn't as easy to scratch as the Note 4. I'm pretty sure a gust of wind could scratch the cheap metal on that thing.
I ordered both of my phones pre ordered through Tmobile customer service. I've had every iteration of Galaxy S phone and never used a screen protector on any of them. Never once had any issues until now. The scratches on my phone aren't micro scratches either. The one that looks like it was from my drivers license is pretty deep and can be felt rubbing the screen with my fingernails. I'm now wondering if dust or other fine particles rubbed up against the screen that caused it. I'm just very disappointed and hope this isn't a widespread issue.
i have not used a screen protector for my last 4 phones and i have never scratched one. the cynic in me thinks these omg my screen got scratched from being in my pocket posts are from people selling screen protectors.
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i have not used a screen protector for my last 4 phones and i have never scratched one. the cynic in me thinks these omg my screen got scratched from being in my pocket posts are from people selling screen protectors.
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Yeah, no, I hate screen protectors, in general. Yet my scratches are from my pocket. -_-
Just got my 64GB S6 Edge Gold. Noticed a micro scratch on the screen when viewing it under my bathrooms lights. Samsung has some crappy QC. Perhaps I should have waited for the LG G4.....
Mine has a hairline scratch on the back and an almost invisible scratch on the front after a few minutes out of the box from T-Mobile. :/
Probably going to return this cheap $hit phone for an LG G4. 2nd 64GB Gold S6 and this one has about 3 hairline scratches on the screen. Pathetic QC.
I also have scratches on mine, One is fairly noticeable, the others are micro scratches, Very Very disappointing. I got a screen protector.