Giving a quick review of the ArmorSuit Screen protector for the T-Mobile GSII SGH-T989. I got it from Amazon the other day for $9.00 and thought I would help out anyone seeking quality screen protection beyond the gorilla glass.
Link for screen protector
If you read the product description it will give you the rundown. I'll give you my opinions of it. First, the self healing claim is for the most part true. It scratched pretty bad when I was applying it but they all went away within a day. Installation was a breeze, just follow the instructions and watch the install video. I did find that at the top of the screen (where the front camera is) the protector just ends rather than going over the camera. I'm not sure if there is any benefit but it does seem like it will be a nuissance in the future because this is where it will start to peel (if anywhere.) Pictures are included.
Picture 2: There is absolutely no change in the quality of screen viewing.
Is there a lot of fingerprints and oil?
I have the zagg right now, that's what i freaking hate!!!!
the screen always is sooooo oily
kvizz said:
Is there a lot of fingerprints and oil?
I have the zagg right now, that's what i freaking hate!!!!
the screen always is sooooo oily
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Looks to be similar to the zagg. I have one too and I don't think it's that bad.
then again, I'm not that 'oily' as a person...
On the plus side, it looks a lot less orange peely than the zagg.
Off topic...what ROM/launcher are you using?
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kvizz said:
Is there a lot of fingerprints and oil?
I have the zagg right now, that's what i freaking hate!!!!
the screen always is sooooo oily
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I haven't noticed anything beyond what the standard glass would have. If anything, I would say it is slightly more tacky but I'm sure that that will go away with time.
IMO you're putting plastic over glass.. Unless its in a car and its tinted its a waste.
They used to do it with TV's now TV's are being made with Gorilla glass.
Oils, smudges and so on..
No thanks..
No plastic will protect gorilla glass
Use Physics to Prove its value
fastfed said:
IMO you're putting plastic over glass.. Unless its in a car and its tinted its a waste.
No plastic will protect gorilla glass
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This is incorrect. Plastic will protect the glass from any random things that would otherwise damage the glass. It is well understood by now that gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof. By adding this plastic cover you increase the compression in which an object can penetrate before hitting the screen. This increases the time the object has to transmit it's energy into the phone and by using the formula for kinetic energy (KE=.5mv²) you will notice that it will lower the velocity of impact. This results in a compression which will lower the KE before whatever may scratch the screen actual scratches it, therefore concluding that the screen protector does protect the gorilla glass.
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This is incorrect. Plastic will protect the glass from any random things that would otherwise damage the glass. It is well understood by now that gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof. By adding this plastic cover you increase the compression in which an object can penetrate before hitting the screen. This increases the time the object has to transmit it's energy into the phone and by using the formula for kinetic energy (KE=.5mv²) you will notice that it will lower the velocity of impact. This results in a compression which will lower the KE before whatever may scratch the screen actual scratches it, therefore concluding that the screen protector does protect the gorilla glass.
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LOL whatever... Mr.Wizard..
Either way, its like putting plastic around a bullet proof glass..
IMO they are not needed anymore at all. Keys,wallet clips, concrete will not scratch the gorilla glass, so anymore more than that is a catastrophic failure that no plastic will really help..
Either way, like I said, some people like to put ugly oil attractive plastic on their phones.. More power to them
Gorilla glass scratches easier than u think my wife has a good scratch on her screen from leaving the phone in her purse
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fastfed said:
LOL whatever... Mr.Wizard..
Either way, its like putting plastic around a bullet proof glass..
IMO they are not needed anymore at all. Keys,wallet clips, concrete will not scratch the gorilla glass, so anymore more than that is a catastrophic failure that no plastic will really help..
Either way, like I said, some people like to put ugly oil attractive plastic on their phones.. More power to them
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Plenty of people have scratched their gorilla glass screens from everyday use such as putting the phone in the same pocket as keys or change. Google it.
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G1ForFun said:
Plenty of people have scratched their gorilla glass screens from everyday use such as putting the phone in the same pocket as keys or change. Google it.
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I have..
But that argument doesn't really work because I can say Google the strength of Gorilla glass.
You will see people taking X-Acto knives to them.. People take hammers and so on..
I've had my evo for almost 2 years, with NO gorilla glass, never had a protector on it..
Tight jeans in pockets (retro, lol) with keys, with a METAL clip as a wallet, never NOT ONCE did it get a single scratch..
IMO it takes a lot! a real lot to scratch glass, GLASS, regular glass, not including Gorilla glass..
My evo did scratch though, riding on my bike at 25mph I dropped it like an idiot taking it out of its mount.. On the asphalt it dragged about 50 feet glass down.
Either way, plastic or not, it would of went right through a dinky piece of plastic.
Either way, I know some people want it, I just think its complete over kill and makes the phone feel/look weird..
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I have..
But that argument doesn't really work because I can say Google the strength of Gorilla glass.
You will see people taking X-Acto knives to them.. People take hammers and so on..
I've had my evo for almost 2 years, with NO gorilla glass, never had a protector on it..
Tight jeans in pockets (retro, lol) with keys, with a METAL clip as a wallet, never NOT ONCE did it get a single scratch..
IMO it takes a lot! a real lot to scratch glass, GLASS, regular glass, not including Gorilla glass..
My evo did scratch though, riding on my bike at 25mph I dropped it like an idiot taking it out of its mount.. On the asphalt it dragged about 50 feet glass down.
Either way, plastic or not, it would of went right through a dinky piece of plastic.
Either way, I know some people want it, I just think its complete over kill and makes the phone feel/look weird..
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actually i go through a lot of phones. I buy and resell gs2's all the time.. And the skyrocket.. I have to say. The glass does get scratched. out of 7 phones I've seen 5 of them scratched. It can only resist a scratch for so long. It might not be a deep scratch, but with the correct angle and lighting, you can see the scratches.
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Oh i would like to add that it also helps the screen from shattering a bit too.. It might not be much, but it definitely helps.
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LOL whatever... Mr.Wizard..
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I'll take that as a compliment.
Any screen protector adds value, but it's pros vs cons.
Even Corning's CES videos show that gorilla glass is NOT scratch proof. Where? They sand blasted it in the circled area to show 'wear'. Personally I think it is easily enough to simulate without going to that extreme by using a decent grit sandpaper and rubbing it over the screen for a few minutes with moderate force.
I also like the tacky feeling the zagg adds, so I don't see a reason to not have a screen protector in addition to whatever proprietary strength glass is on it's face.
Looks impresive probably will get it.
8Fishes said:
Looks to be similar to the zagg. I have one too and I don't think it's that bad.
then again, I'm not that 'oily' as a person...
On the plus side, it looks a lot less orange peely than the zagg.
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i know, the zagg is like a gator skin
fastfed said:
I have..
But that argument doesn't really work because I can say Google the strength of Gorilla glass.
You will see people taking X-Acto knives to them.. People take hammers and so on..
I've had my evo for almost 2 years, with NO gorilla glass, never had a protector on it..
Tight jeans in pockets (retro, lol) with keys, with a METAL clip as a wallet, never NOT ONCE did it get a single scratch..
IMO it takes a lot! a real lot to scratch glass, GLASS, regular glass, not including Gorilla glass..
My evo did scratch though, riding on my bike at 25mph I dropped it like an idiot taking it out of its mount.. On the asphalt it dragged about 50 feet glass down.
Either way, plastic or not, it would of went right through a dinky piece of plastic.
Either way, I know some people want it, I just think its complete over kill and makes the phone feel/look weird..
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Say that to my optimus v, have been using it for past year with no scratches and still going, sometimes i throw it at the floor with otterbox on and its like a bouncy ball. Nothing happend to it..... 3rd day on my galaxy s2 using it normally in the same pocket i had my optimus in and same exact jeans and it got scratched. Better be safe than have a phone that you won't like anymore.
For those who think Gorilla glass is scratch-free, try rubbing a few grains of beach sand on the screen. Come back tell me how you feel Ok!
Why not just keep one pocket dedicated to your phone and nothing else? I keep my phone in my front right pocket every single day and have never once scratched it... no stinking screen protector.
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To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
man... although a simple glass wont scratch with nothing in your pocket..
Maybe someone touched it when you didnt know, or something happened.
I've been using my vibrant for about three weeks now and have no scratches, only some marks on the battery cover.
The samsung vibrant does indeed have gorilla glass. Just because it has gorilla glass doesn't mean its un -scratchable. It just means it's more resistant than regular glass...if you don't mind me asking...what did you have in your pockets? A machete? A light saber?!...I kid, I kid...the morale of this story is, get a screen protector, prevent your vibrant from getting scathed by a light saber!
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whether it has Gorilla glass or not, this is the FIRST phone that ended up with deep scratch only after a month of use.
I really dont care, i got it replaced and finally bought screen protector that i really like. (anti glare and anti fingerprint)
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Goog1e Phone said:
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
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Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
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with anti-glare and anti-fingerprint you will always tell that its there. i personally dont like reflective screens or screen protectors so my anti-glare and anti-fingerprint work great.
lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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+1 not a scratch.
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
that sucks man, i would be pissed too.
but what did it get scratched on? must have had something in your pocket with it...?
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To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
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Interesting post...I'm actually a screen protector freak and have ordered multiple brands of screen protectors for the Vibrant (actually even Galaxy S just to try it...) so I'm all FOR screen protectors...best one so far is from Korea.
About your scratch...unless there's a scratch fairy, there is SOMETHING that caused that scratch. It may be foreign to you because you may not have known when it happened...It's highly possible someone else without your knowledge was the cause of it. Scratches just don't appear out of thin air...
Bottom line...the glass on the Samsung is solid...very solid...I've dropped my phone before so I know first hand how durable the glass is...it's some tough $#!t....
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Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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Its just the way of the world. If you put a screen protector on, soon after you take it off your will get scratched.
If you put it in a case, soon after you take it off you'll drop your phone. Call it karma, or just dumb luck, but it always seems to happen this way
PaiPiePia said:
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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If someone can do a key test we all can find out for sure
I've put this phones in my pocket with keys many times, dropped it several times, not a scratch yet. Whatever it's made of, it's pretty tough.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
I don't use a sp, but my phone still looks brand new.. No sp, no case, usually keep my phone in my pocket when walking around. Screen is still smooth a glass. Could samsung have used different materials depending on when it was built, kind of like the problem with the shortage if amoled screens?
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I actually dropped my phone on one of those concrete roads in a way that send the phone sliding on the concrete several feet face down. All 4 corners of the phone's bezel show scratches but nothing on the screen itself.
Goog1e Phone said:
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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I agree 100%!!!!
I put my first one on backwards and complained to them about not having standard directions. (You take the plastic covers off in reverse?) I did not read the instructions, but they still sent me three free new ones.
Great company, great screen protectors.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
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I would never personally do this, and a 3 dollar screen protector to protect the integrity of a very sweet piece of equipment, is a very small price to pay.
I just find it hard to believe that with only cloth surrounding it it got scratched. Not even lint in your pocket? I call BS
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Galaxy nexus glass is horrible, com paired to gorrila glass IMO, zagg screen cover left marks in glass, never happened with any of my high dollar other androids . I need good glass polish or cleaner Any1 no and tried a good one??? Care to share?? There not scratches more like marks from like a crayon on glass??? Not visible on clean screen bit once get dirty stands out bad??
I don't think they are actual scratches in the glass. Most likely it's the oleophobic coating being rubbed away. It happened to mine as well in my pocket.
The area without the coating will attract the grease/crud more quickly making it stand out.
If you clean the screen and breathe on it at an angle you can see exactly where it is.
El Daddy said:
I don't think they are actual scratches in the glass. Most likely it's the oleophobic coating being rubbed away. It happened to mine as well in my pocket.
The area without the coating will attract the grease/crud more quickly making it stand out.
If you clean the screen and breathe on it at an angle you can see exactly where it is.
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yes!! Exactly,can it be fixed? My gorilla glass made phones haven't done this
Maybe your previous gorilla glass phones didn't have oleophobic coating? Not all phones have it.
I don't believe it can be fixed. Mine got rubbed off from a nylon threaded seam in my pocket. I put a screen protector on after and it isn't visible anymore.
El Daddy said:
Maybe your previous gorilla glass phones didn't have oleophobic coating? Not all phones have it.
I don't believe it can be fixed. Mine got rubbed off from a nylon threaded seam in my pocket. I put a screen protector on after and it isn't visible anymore.
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I dont no if they did? I have quite a few, nexus one, captivate, euro gs2, at&t gs2, nexus s, in use now skyrocket and this Gn . None have done this, but coating.g being wiped off makes sense, I've been using for a week without screen protection and didn't want to put one back on, but ya I think that would make "flaw" go away cause its not visible with clean screen .... thanks for the knowledge!
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I dont no if they did? I have quite a few, nexus one, captivate, euro gs2, at&t gs2, nexus s, in use now skyrocket and this Gn . None have done this, but coating.g being wiped off makes sense, I've been using for a week without screen protection and didn't want to put one back on, but ya I think that would make "flaw" go away cause its not visible with clean screen .... thanks for the knowledge!
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I dont know that any of those phones have the coating.
I'd be careful doing any buffing or removal as it perhaps could remove more of the coating...?
The iPad has a similar oleo-phobic coating to prevent fingerprints. Many small scratches that appear on the screen are actually on the coating and not on the glass. I remember seeing a video of a guy who had had enough of the coating and so he buffed it out with a car buffer. The end result was a spotless iPad, but it would now attract fingerprints much easier than before.
Found the link, http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-1133703.html
Crap I use Zagg too, so the day when I take it off there's a risk the coating will come off? Last time I'm using that brand! Not to mention the orange peel effect!
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The iPad has a similar oleo-phobic coating to prevent fingerprints. Many small scratches that appear on the screen are actually on the coating and not on the glass. I remember seeing a video of a guy who had had enough of the coating and so he buffed it out with a car buffer. The end result was a spotless iPad, but it would now attract fingerprints much easier than before.
Found the link, http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-1133703.html
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wow this should be stickied to the other "screen scratches easily" threads.
Well, i have done it!!
I have a nice half inch long scratch in my screen. And its not just a scuff, I mean a scratch you can feel!!
Personally I think the whole gorilla glass is a scheme to make you think you have a better product.
I never put anything remotely rough in my pocket with my phone, never set it on the screen, drop it ...blah blah blah. Some how some way I woke up today and found a scratch!! It was nice while it lasted, but I guess it has officially been "broken" in.
should've had one of these screen protectors:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005P15G8K/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
Even if they came out with some crazy diamond hard screen,I would still use a screen protector.it's just insurance.
Not spell checked nor checked for grammar on my genetic phone
Always use a screen protector and a TPU if you value your phone.
Gorilla glass resists breakage and is thinner than comparable-strength traditional glass. Nothing is scratch-proof.
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Always use a screen protector and a TPU if you value your phone.
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Thats what I use. Dropped my phone for the first time today and not a scratch or dent. I wasn't worried though.
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I used to be one to always use a case and screen protector, but when I had the Evo3d the screen protector ruined the 3d so I kept it off.
I liked the feel of the glass better so I left it off my E4GT, and one day I cleaned the screen and created a inch long scratch. I am assuming there was a piece of dirt on the screen cleaning cloth I always use.
The gorilla glass is to help with broken screens (think how many iphones have broken glass), not scratches. It bothers the crap out of me. I will be an invisashield customer again on my next phone...
Gorilla Glass is Unbreakable,
Unscratchable, Unbreakable. Undeformable, Unsmudgeable and Indestructible!!
Jk about the above :-D
I wrote a post about this topic with links.
Will find it later on.
Gorilla Glass is Resistant to scratches, pits, chips, breaks, etc. under certain conditions, where glass would not be.
Under other conditions, hardly any material which can be used for the screen of a Smartphone screen is Impervious to the above, at this time.
With the above being said, I recently noticed faint, light scratches when viewing my E4GT under certain Sun angles.
I applied a screen protector a short while ago to lessen the risks of deeper scratches, etc.
I think the issues are:
- many believe Gorilla Glass is Impervious to damage.
- advertisement and spec sheets are not as clear as they could be regarding the real world properties of Gorilla Glass.
Oh, Be Careful where there is SAND, aka THE BEACH ;-)
Sand WILL Scratch GG, as that is Etched in Stone lol! Sand has a Hardness of approx. '7' on the Mohs Hardness Scale.
GG, I believe is '6-6.5,' which is slightly Harder than glass. Sand, which are Quartz particles, are a 7 in hardness, hence sand will scratch the crap outta your screen!
Screen Protecters are approx. 3-3.5
in Hardness I believe, but you can easily (subjective) replace them.
Btw, dust in the air contains quartz particles also.
Googling Corning Gorilla Glass will give you a better idea of it's properties.
I found it very informative.
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Gorilla Glass is Unbreakable,
Unscratchable, Unbreakable. Undeformable, Unsmudgeable and Indestructible!!
Jk about the above :-D
I wrote a post about this topic with links.
Will find it later on.
Gorilla Glass is Resistant to scratches, pits, chips, breaks, etc. under certain conditions, where glass would not be.
Under other conditions, hardly any material which can be used for the screen of a Smartphone screen is Impervious to the above, at this time.
With the above being said, I recently noticed faint, light scratches when viewing my E4GT under certain Sun angles.
I applied a screen protector a short while ago to lessen the risks of deeper scratches, etc.
I think the issues are:
- many believe Gorilla Glass is Impervious to damage.
- advertisement and spec sheets are not as clear as they could be regarding the real world properties of Gorilla Glass.
Oh, Be Careful where there is SAND, aka THE BEACH ;-)
Sand WILL Scratch GG, as that is Etched in Stone lol! Sand has a Hardness of approx. '7' on the Mohs Hardness Scale.
GG, I believe is '6-6.5,' which is slightly Harder than glass. Sand, which are Quartz particles, are a 7 in hardness, hence sand will scratch the crap outta your screen!
Screen Protecters are approx. 3-3.5
in Hardness I believe, but you can easily (subjective) replace them.
Googling Corning Gorilla Glass will give you a better idea of it's properties.
I found it very informative.
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He speaks the truth about sand!!! Unfortunately.....
Yeah..maybe a sand issue...I was in Florida over the weekend.
Lesson learned...I do like the feel of the bare glass, but may have to invest in a screen protector for the future.
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In the past, I've tried the following screen protectors:
1) Boxwave
2) Zagg InvisibleSHIELD
3) Steinheil Crystal Clear
I am currently using #3, and like it the best.
2 to a pack.
I usually screw up the first application with any protector, so having 2 is a plus.
Very transparent. Feel is very smooth.
Finger gliding is Excellent.
Goes on Dry.
Scratch resistance is pretty good. Actually very good. But remember the MOHs Hardness Scale examples I previously listed.
#3 here also, love it, no bubbles at all, great stuff.
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Thats what I have on my screen! Stienheil :O!
I've dropped my phone numerous times from a good distance but one day I had it in my back pocket (not the first time) and sat down. When I pulled my phone out it had a cracked screen -__-
I also have some scratches on my device. Gorilla is not diamond. But I still don't use screen protector, after 2 years, maybe I upgrade another phone.
Like the poster on the first page said..the grains of sand will get you if you aren't careful. I got a little scratch on my Nexus that way and I went right out and got a screen protector for my Epic Touch. I definitely prefer the feel of bare screen but a scratch really irritates me
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Scratches annoy the crap out of me. I've only had this phone for like two months and I'm on my fifth screen protector. Going to try the steinhall one next. How does that lotus glass compare to gorilla as far as scratch resistance?
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erasable said:
Scratches annoy the crap out of me. I've only had this phone for like two months and I'm on my fifth screen protector. Going to try the steinhall one next. How does that lotus glass compare to gorilla as far as scratch resistance?
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Lotus Glass is called Corning Gorilla Glass 2. I believe Lotus Glass was the speculated name given prior to it officially becoming available. I'm unsure, if any, what devices are currently using it.
I've read on the Corning site that is has the same scratch, break resistant,etc. properties, but that it can be made up to 20% thinner, and keep the same strength and properties as the original Gorilla Glass.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/news/press-releases/corning-unveils-new-gorilla®-glass-2
i dropped my phone down some tile stairs. it must have had about 15 contacts and almost slid from the second floor to the first floor.... only had bumps on the bezel and slight scratches on the screen. not noticeable when the screen was on... very durable i must say.
Personally I just can't bring myself to use a screen protector or case. Part of the reason I picked this phone was because of it's profile. The idea of hiding it away in a bulky case and noticeable screen protector makes me cringe.
I don't find it too hard to be careful with my phone. I bought my E4GT at release and I've never dropped it or sat on it and there are no scratches on the screen save for one tiny, faint one that I can only see if the screen is off and the light hits it just right.
Granted people with certain lifestyles can't get away with this. My dad is a mechanic and if it weren't in a case he'd destroy his phone inside a week. Luckily I'm practically a hermit with my face buried in textbooks all day long...
PS I forgot, I do keep a TPU case laying around for traveling. I haven't used it yet, but if I were going somewhere potentially hazardous to my phone I would.
So I thought the SGS3 has gorilla glass? I've had my new phone a month and have a scratch on the screen! I had my SGS1 for 2 years and the screen is perfect! It doesn't effect operation, but it's annoying!
Have you been to a place with sand? Knives can't do crap to it, but sand can literally ruin it...
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What he said, I took mine to the beach just one day, kept it in the bag but then listened to music for a bit, tried to be very careful, and got my first scratch on it, BUT...luckily I had a screen protector on there so it only scratched it, sand just sucks. I had it in my pocket with keys and all that loads of times and nothing, but one time on the beach and it would of scratched it, glad I had the SGP nano on there. The screen is as tough as any other, you just happened to get the right combo to scratch it.
Yeah Gorilla Glass is all the hype but in reality there's plenty of ways to scratch your screen. I strongly recommend putting a screen protector on it... you can get them 2 for 6-7$ on ebay, I usually change it every 6 months or so, or when it's too scratched up.
One thing with Gorilla Glass is, your screen will NOT break, no matter what. So when you see kids around with a shattered iPhone screen, feel safe in the fact that your screen is pretty much bullet proof.
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Yeah Gorilla Glass is all the hype but in reality there's plenty of ways to scratch your screen. I strongly recommend putting a screen protector on it... you can get them 2 for 6-7$ on ebay, I usually change it every 6 months or so, or when it's too scratched up.
One thing with Gorilla Glass is, your screen will NOT break, no matter what. So when you see kids around with a shattered iPhone screen, feel safe in the fact that your screen is pretty much bullet proof.
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Wont break?!!!! Yea right someone lied to u man lol i have broken 2 one wasbin my pocket!
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Wont break?!!!! Yea right someone lied to u man lol i have broken 2 one wasbin my pocket!
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Seriously?!? First time I hear of a GG screen breaking... there are plenty of youtube videos showing it's pretty damn solid at least. How in hell did you break one in your pocket? Were you in a combat zone or something?
it all depends on how they are hit anything from the side and its pritty much toast. hitting the glass directly it stands a much better chance
Really? Do you not see the word "glass"?
Just because the word gorilla is in there, doesn't change the fact that it is glass.
Glass will break, scratch, crack, shatter and then some.
it may be tougher glass, but it is glass.
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mine cracked, second day. and from 3 ft drop on tiles. really disapointed. my old galaxy with the original gorilla glass held up way worse drops. gg2 sucks. thinner is not better.
Just putting this out there to clear up any confusion - the iPhone uses Gorilla Glass, which shatters all the time when dropped. The thing that protects your phone most in those oops moments are the plastic housing. Plastic is awesome at absorbing energy from drops and impacts by deforming and whatnot, hence why a mostly plastic SGS1 will stand up to repeated drops while an iPhone will shatter on the first try. Pretty sure the SGS3 is more shatter prone than the SGS1, simply because there's more glass and it's more exposed than it was on the SGS1.
I shattered a galaxy 1 also 2 galaxy 2s and havnt hurt my s3 yet but I'm sure someday
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As someone already mentioned that it's a 'Glass'. Therefore it'll have scratches and it'll break eventually. And it's very trivial to know why some GS3 screen scratches and most doesn't. Last year I got my prescription glasses from lens crafter. Now they told me that the glasses are scratch resistant. Guess what, one of the lenses got a small scratch and the worst thing is I didn't even dropped it. I don't know when, where or how it happened. Bottom line, whether it's Gorilla Glass or some dinosaur or Rhino glass, as long as it's a glass it has 'Fragile' written all over it. Of course these glasses will be way better in wear an tear far better than the normal one. But eventually it'll meet its end.
Look up drop test vids for GS3. Almost always cracks the screen. Usually shoulder height drops, so pretty high but still. It is not hard to crack the screen.
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Look up drop test vids for GS3. Almost always cracks the screen. Usually shoulder height drops, so pretty high but still. It is not hard to crack the screen.
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I don't think anyone really thinks gorillaglass2 is unbreakable... a screen protector wont stop it from breaking either... I broke my Inspire with Gorilla Glass 1 when I dropped it in the front yard and it hit one of those cement landscaping scallops directly on the screen and shattered into a million cracks..I think its more about scratching... there's tons of videos on youtube of people doing scratch tests on the phones with coins, keys and even knife blades...and not scratching. Leading a lot of people to not put a protector on the screen because they feel its safe to assume the glass wont scratch...
No sand. Few drops. But just the one scratch in the middle of the screen. I've no idea how it got there.....
I cracked mine in 2 days. A drop from whopping 4 inches on asphalt.
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My first unit got a scratch on it fairly easily. I've since replaced it and the new one is tucked safety away in an Otterbox defender never to see the light of day again.
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They are good... I bought one with the Iphone I gave my 80 year old father for xmas and they are tuff! It just sux though too cuz it takes all the sleekness and sexiness out of phones like these......
Gorilla Glass is tough. Gorilla Glass v2 is tougher. Someone already posted that its the plastic housing. This is basically totally right. Glass of various types have different degrees of how much impact they can handle, and on the SGS1, the edge is entirely surrounded by a fairly flexible plastic, and the screen is slightly recessed. meaning if you drop it on the edge, the plastic eats much of the force, plus the plastic spreads the force out over a greater area in the process. Glass's main weakness is on the edge because all the force is on a very tiny area. Have you ever seen one of those hand held devices for blowing out a car's window (for emergencies, where you cant get out the door/etc)? All it is is a very fine point recessed in the handle, once you apply force, the tip pops out with not much overall force, but in such a small area it will shatter the window.
The SGS3 will break easier than the SGS1 i am pretty sure, since the glass is all flush, and there's more area that could land with a high force/area ratio due to the screen actually being slightly higher than the plastic edge. If that plastic edge were flush with, or higher than the glass, it would protect against a wider angle of drops.
There have been advances in glass recently that might make all these worries a thing of the past. Glass if chipped enough to form even a microscopic hairline crack will see that crack continue. Most tempered glasses basically spider out and explode into a whole bunch of tiny pieces, but new techniques with microscopic ridges in random directions obstruct the crack's progression, and hopefully we will see technologies like this on the market in the next few years.
Glass nerding complete.
mine broke from 2 foot drop
Does anyone use a screen protector on their Nitro? Has anyone actually been able to scratch the screen?
I was looking into a Ballistic HardCore case, but I see that it comes in a full housing and the plastic screen protector on it kind of ruins the view of the IPS display (one of the major selling points of the Nitro). So with Gorilla Glass 2 coating is it really worth it to lower the display quality a little bit to get the protection?
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Does anyone use a screen protector on their Nitro? Has anyone actually been able to scratch the screen?
I was looking into a Ballistic HardCore case, but I see that it comes in a full housing and the plastic screen protector on it kind of ruins the view of the IPS display (one of the major selling points of the Nitro). So with Gorilla Glass 2 coating is it really worth it to lower the display quality a little bit to get the protection?
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Yes. I dropped my nitro and the screen cracked, a couple of days AFTER i removed my screen protector. So yea. You should.
I cracked my screen after dropping it while it had a protector on it.
I took mine off I've had it off quite a few months now the glass is tough but I did manage to scratch it. I work construction and I'm very hard on my phone.
I can be bothered with anymore screen protectors they just mark up and dull the screen.
Over all this phone has fallen upwards of 15 ft and I've been lucky its held on well.
I also don't use a case at all.
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keenz said:
I cracked my screen after dropping it while it had a protector on it.
I took mine off I've had it off quite a few months now the glass is tough but I did manage to scratch it. I work construction and I'm very hard on my phone.
I can be bothered with anymore screen protectors they just mark up and dull the screen.
Over all this phone has fallen upwards of 15 ft and I've been lucky its held on well.
I also don't use a case at all.
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You sir, are lucky. Mine has fallen a distance of 3 ft and cracked my screen... twice. Both with and without a screen protector.
If you want to go with just a screen protector, I recommend Zagg, just put it on right. You don't even notice the "orange peel" look with the screen on; in fact, I don't even realize I have a screen protector on when the screen is on. The Ballistic case is very sturdy though, and after my replacement digitizer comes in, I will be using it again. Another point to consider, if you have the extended battery, the ballistic case will not fit.
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You sir, are lucky. Mine has fallen a distance of 3 ft and cracked my screen... twice. Both with and without a screen protector.
If you want to go with just a screen protector, I recommend Zagg, just put it on right. You don't even notice the "orange peel" look with the screen on; in fact, I don't even realize I have a screen protector on when the screen is on. The Ballistic case is very sturdy though, and after my replacement digitizer comes in, I will be using it again. Another point to consider, if you have the extended battery, the ballistic case will not fit.
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No screen protector will stop a crack from a drop a the right angle, but they should all protect from scratching. I am weary on using the Ballistic HardCore case since it will add so much bulk and take away the beauty of the screen with it's plastic window. It pretty much makes the phone just short of bullet proof though, so I can see why people spring for it.
I just ordered some Xtremegaurd ones since there is a 80% off coupon code. Zagg would have been nice, but not enough money for that. Will report back and state whether or not it takes away from the screen.
I'd recommend ghost armor aswell, doesn't dull the quality at all.
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No screen protector will stop a crack from a drop a the right angle, but they should all protect from scratching. I am weary on using the Ballistic HardCore case since it will add so much bulk and take away the beauty of the screen with it's plastic window. It pretty much makes the phone just short of bullet proof though, so I can see why people spring for it.
I just ordered some Xtremegaurd ones since there is a 80% off coupon code. Zagg would have been nice, but not enough money for that. Will report back and state whether or not it takes away from the screen.
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Yeah, Ballistic is definitely tough. As you pointed out, the only real flaw I see with it is the plastic screen cover. And about the size; I have an extended battery. The only real world difference I notice between the Ballistic case and the extended battery + cover is the contour. I know it is bigger all around, but I just can't notice the extra size; just the different shape.
I have been tempted to try popping the plastic cover out of the case and just using the Zagg protector.. it's not like the plastic cover keeps water from getting in, or dust from getting in, or as an extra layer of protection against drops...
I've scratched my screen a little. One decent scratch. I ordered a refurbished ballistic hc with no screen protector.
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I dont use screen protectors. Cant stand them. I barely have a belt bag for mine althought i might get a BarelyThere cover. Its feels very good just the phone itself without cover unlike the first 2 Atrix models, which i had. I hardly drop my phones or even scratch them. The only phone i ever damaged digitizer was my first touch pro2 with keys in my pocket. It was no biggy but the scratch was there. Since then if i use phones in pockets i make sure nothing else is there.
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I've scratched my screen a little. One decent scratch. I ordered a refurbished ballistic hc with no screen protector.
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See? This is the kind of stuff that makes me debate whether or not I want to enjoy the naked screen to use a protector and lose some clarity.
Isn't Gorilla Glass not supposed to scartch? Decisions decisions.
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See? This is the kind of stuff that makes me debate whether or not I want to enjoy the naked screen to use a protector and lose some clarity.
Isn't Gorilla Glass not supposed to scartch? Decisions decisions.
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Zagg all the way then! I honestly can't even tell I have a screen protector on my phone when I'm using it. I see no loss of clarity, but I also gain the good conscious of knowing my screen won't scratch if I accidentally shove my phone in my pocket with my keys and some pocket change or if I happen to set it face-down, or anything else.
And Gorilla Glass is only scratch resistant, but that doesn't mean it's scratch-proof. The first few months I had my phone I made absolute certain I never put it in my pocket with anything that could damage it, I cleaned it with the rag I use to clean my glasses, and just overall watched over it like a hawk. Somehow I still managed to put a couple barely noticeable scratches on the screen. So I would say at the very least, go with a screen protector... also, in the off-chance that you DO end up shattering your digitizer, that screen protector will keep trash from having the rather unlikely opportunity to get inside and wreak havoc on your LCD if the break is bad enough.
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Zagg all the way then! I honestly can't even tell I have a screen protector on my phone when I'm using it. I see no loss of clarity, but I also gain the good conscious of knowing my screen won't scratch if I accidentally shove my phone in my pocket with my keys and some pocket change or if I happen to set it face-down, or anything else.
And Gorilla Glass is only scratch resistant, but that doesn't mean it's scratch-proof. The first few months I had my phone I made absolute certain I never put it in my pocket with anything that could damage it, I cleaned it with the rag I use to clean my glasses, and just overall watched over it like a hawk. Somehow I still managed to put a couple barely noticeable scratches on the screen. So I would say at the very least, go with a screen protector... also, in the off-chance that you DO end up shattering your digitizer, that screen protector will keep trash from having the rather unlikely opportunity to get inside and wreak havoc on your LCD if the break is bad enough.
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Basically, the screen will scratch whether or not it's gorilla glass if it comes into contact with sand. You'd be surprised at how often that can happen. Metal is softer than the screen so it can't scratch it.
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Basically, the screen will scratch whether or not it's gorilla glass if it comes into contact with sand. You'd be surprised at how often that can happen. Metal is softer than the screen so it can't scratch it.
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That tidbit of information means that a few grains of sand in your pocket are more likely to scratch a screen than rubbing against pocket change or keys. Even the Ballistic case will let debris get inside the case and between the screen and the plastic cover. I don't know how many times I would thoroughly wipe the screen and the case, carefully put it together, and admire how clean it was. Drop it in my pocket for a little bit and pull it out only to find specks of pocket lint under the plastic. It was a never-ending cycle!
nope, had Armor and took it off. still scratch free
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