RETAIL and RETEU differences ? - Moto Z2 Play Questions & Answers

Hi,
I've got 2 units of Moto Z2 Play, both are from RETEU channel. I've flashed RETAIL Pie on one of them, and it's working perfectly.
I still can't see any signs of Pie release on the second one, which is still on RETEU 8.0 Android.
Now, I am wondering, what might be the difference between RETAIL and RETEU roms ? RETAIL ROM is working great on my device as far as I can see, but could it be that RETEU might be better prepared for EU region maybe ?
Does anyone know more maybe ?

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Retgb? Any software update

Hi sorry if this has been asked before but new to the Moto g5 I purchased the device from Argos so it has the retgb software channel I have looked on Moto website and it doesn't give exact information about software update for UK g5 so I'm asking is there anything at all for the UK g5 there is no update what so ever stuck on 7.0 1st January patch
I've got the G5 3GB Dual Sim version from Amazon UK, also retgb, i'm on the same patch as you. Jan 2017.
Looking on the Motorola forum's, it seems our retail devices haven't been updated at all.
If there is no update when you select it from the about phone section then there is no update
Updates roll out in waves & is based on
Phone variant
Region
Retail or branded/carrier
Security update is available for some variants in certain regions
When will you get an update? No one at xda (or even Motorola support) would be able to tell you so no point in asking
Other than security patches there's no other improvements
So am I best off going custom on this bad boy
ttocs99 said:
So am I best off going custom on this bad boy
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Yeah I would!
ttocs99 said:
So am I best off going custom on this bad boy
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If you want updates custom ROMs best no one knows when Moto will release source or it gets leaked
TheFixItMan said:
When will you get an update? No one at xda (or even Motorola support) would be able to tell you so no point in asking
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They didn't ask when an update will come out, they asked if anyone had received an update on that channel. It doesn't seem like an unreasonable query to me.

XT1710-06 ? What model is this? Can't find anything on it.

looking to upgrade from my current Z play....I'm on Verizon and like the idea of being able to get an unlocked version. I noticed this XT1710-06 but can't find what is different about it vs the XT1710-01. Does anyone know ?
Hello, I'm from Peru and I have the dual SIM version xt1710-06 Retla ... I do not know what happened, the phone stayed in the November patch and the OTAS that are in XDA with the December patch are not compatible. I read in Brazilian forums that for this phone the patches are different because it is dual SIM and that its official provider is Motorola and not a mobile operator. in the end all the variants work the same but it is for a specific region .. in Brazil they use the variant -07 in Europe it is -09 Asia I think it is -10 and china -11
vinniebigstick said:
looking to upgrade from my current Z play....I'm on Verizon and like the idea of being able to get an unlocked version. I noticed this XT1701-06 but can't find what is different about it vs the XT1701-01. Does anyone know ?
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It's XT1710-xx not XT1701-xx
You want XT1710-01.
That is the US Unlocked version, with unlockable bootloader.
I'm on Verizon, also.
The -06 is a dual SIM version with North American GSM LTE frequencies. It won't work with Verizon.
My Z2 Play from AT&T Mexico is single SIM and is a XT1710-06
My XT1710-06 is dual sim. Has TWRP 3.2.1-0 installed, yet I cannot get any of the lineage os 15.1 downloads to install. Always get a 255 error and even tried the, delete first to lines from that note pad file trick. No go. Any got an lineage 15 or 15.1 that is not in that g drive everyone is linking?
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My XT1710-06 is dual sim. Has TWRP 3.2.1-0 installed, yet I cannot get any of the lineage os 15.1 downloads to install. Always get a 255 error and even tried the, delete first to lines from that note pad file trick. No go. Any got an lineage 15 or 15.1 that is not in that g drive everyone is linking?
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Is your TWRP a modified version, or is it all stock TWRP?
Sent from my Moto G4 Plus using XDA Labs
Thanks for the reply guys :laugh:. I managed to install Lineage OS 15.1 by reflashing a different Twrp. Instead of using twrp-3.2.1-0.img again, another thread mentioned twrp-3.2.1-0-albus.img for installing LOS 15.1. Everything you guys posted was spot on. Keep up the awesome work and thanks again for the umpteenth time.

Moto G5 XT1677 - OTA not working

I had flashed stock rom on my Moto G5 XT1677. So it is now on retus channel, with Nov 2017 security patch. However, I see March 2018 patch is already out, but when I check on my phone, it says your software is up to date. How do I fix this ?
Link- https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS127235
Before retus u r in which software channel ??
ayushmantiwari95 said:
Before retus u r in which software channel ??
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My baseband has a string INDIADSDS_CUST, so probably it was retin.
Is there a retin stock rom available somewhere which I can use.
enjoy10 said:
My baseband has a string INDIADSDS_CUST, so probably it was retin.
Is there a retin stock rom available somewhere which I can use.
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I'm in amzin software channel (Moto g5 Cedric xt1677 ) u find the tutorial for this to change my software channel too without bricked my phn n compatible without any problem .can u plz send me the link .
I added my moto g5 about phn details too
ayushmantiwari95 said:
I'm in amzin software channel (Moto g5 Cedric xt1677 ) u find the tutorial for this to change my software channel too without bricked my phn n compatible without any problem .can u plz send me the link .
I added my moto g5 about phn details too
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As per the screenshot, you have a Moto G5 Plus i.e. Potter not Moto G5 Cedric. This thread is about Moto G5 Cedric retin stock image.
enjoy10 said:
As per the screenshot, you have a Moto G5 Plus i.e. Potter not Moto G5 Cedric. This thread is about Moto G5 Cedric retin stock image.
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Do check the image again
Anyone has a image for Cedric XT1677 in which OTA works ? Preferably for retin.
Thank you.
enjoy10 said:
Anyone has a image for Cedric XT1677 in which OTA works ? Preferably for retin.
Thank you.
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OTAs work on all stock rom firmware
Just because you are not receiving an ota doesn't mean its not working - It means it's not available in your country or for your variant
Just because an ota is available in one country doesn't mean its available in another country or for every variant of a device
TheFixItMan said:
OTAs work on all stock rom firmware
Just because you are not receiving an ota doesn't mean its not working - It means it's not available in your country or for your variant
Just because an ota is available in one country doesn't mean its available in another country or for every variant of a device
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. However, as I explained in the first post, I have the stock rom retus, and retus has already released April 2018 security patch. My phone doesn't show it, and is stuck on Nov 2017 patch. How do I identify, if my phone is not eligible, or if there is some other issue.
I had flashed the stock firmware from - https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5/Stock/XT1677/
Is there any other stock rom that works ?
enjoy10 said:
Thanks for the detailed explanation. However, as I explained in the first post, I have the stock rom retus, and retus has already released April 2018 security patch. My phone doesn't show it, and is stuck on Nov 2017 patch. How do I identify, if my phone is not eligible, or if there is some other issue.
I had flashed the stock firmware from - https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5/Stock/XT1677/
Is there any other stock rom that works ?
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Are you located in the country to which the firmware you are using is from? If not you may not get the update - you could try using a vpn to that country
Also the device variant you are using may not have that update available
Eg the XT1675 may have the update available and the XT1677 doesn't
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Are you located in the country to which the firmware you are using is from? If not you may not get the update - you could try using a vpn to that country
Also the device variant you are using may not have that update available
Eg the XT1675 may have the update available and the XT1677 doesn't
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Well after I flashed the stock ROM, my software channel changed to retus (earlier was retin). I tried US VPNs as well, but still no updates. retin has already released Mar 2018 security patch, which my phone is not receiving - https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/in/ei/Solution/MS127237
Hence, is there a way to switch the channel to retin from retus, or is there a stock rom for retin which I can use. Thank you.
enjoy10 said:
Well after I flashed the stock ROM, my software channel changed to retus (earlier was retin). I tried US VPNs as well, but still no updates. retin has already released Mar 2018 security patch, which my phone is not receiving - https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/in/ei/Solution/MS127237
Hence, is there a way to switch the channel to retin from retus, or is there a stock rom for retin which I can use. Thank you.
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It doesn't matter what channel you are on - that's only part of the process
There are also different varients of the device - for example the UK is XT1675
Just because you flashed the retus firmware doesn't mean you will get updates if there is no update for your variant
You would have to flash a different varients firmware manually (this may cause issues with band frequencies)
Thanks everyone. I manually applied all OTA patches as described in post - https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/how-to/cedric-ota-archive-t3795275

software channel correction.

Hello, my Moto g5 is having retin software channel which seems to be Moto g5 plus should have.is any one is having retin software channel in they Moto g5. If anyone is having please let me know as it seem to have Moto g5 plus software channel.
You can see in the screenshot which I have capture on both device's:-
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Hello, my Moto g5 is having retin software channel which seems to be Moto g5 plus should have.is any one is having retin software channel in they Moto g5. If anyone is having please let me know as it seem to have Moto g5 plus software channel.
You can see in the screenshot which I have capture on both device's:-
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I just need some clarification as I don't fully understand what are trying to say
retin just means I imagine you are a retail India software channel
If you own a moto g5 plus Potter you have posted in the wrong forum
TheFixItMan said:
I just need some clarification as I don't fully understand what are trying to say
retin just means I imagine you are a retail India software channel - are you saying that you own a moto g5 cedric & since updating to oreo with the soak test ota your device now displays as a moto g5 plus potter?
If that is the case then Motorola have just mucked up the build.prop - these are just text lines and can be changed to display anything you like in about phone
If you own a moto g5 plus Potter you have posted in the wrong forum
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Thanks for replying,but I want to say that my Moto g5 has retin software channel which belongs to Moto g5 plus as I am having both the device I have put the screenshot of them.i just want to know that retin software channel is belong to Moto g5 or not, and other Moto g5 is having retin software channel or not.and I didn't register for Moto MFN.
riyan65 said:
Thanks for replying,but I want to say that my Moto g5 has retin software channel which belongs to Moto g5 plus as I am having both the device I have put the screenshot of them.i just want to know that retin software channel is belong to Moto g5 or not, and other Moto g5 is having retin software channel or not.and I didn't register for Moto MFN.
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All moto devices will have a retin software channel (if sold in India)
Ret means it's a retail device (instead of an Amazon device)
in - means it's an Indian varient
So both moto g5 and g5 plus will have a retin software channel
TheFixItMan said:
All moto devices will have a retin software channel (if sold in India)
Ret means it's a retail device (instead of an Amazon device)
in - means it's an Indian varient
So both moto g5 and g5 plus will have a retin software channel
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Thanks for clarifying,but my Moto g5 came with amazin. After replacement of motherboard my device is having retin so that I am having dought. And if I install Oreo soak test which is for amazin does my device again get bricked.
riyan65 said:
Thanks for clarifying,but my Moto g5 came with amazin. After replacement of motherboard my device is having retin so that I am having dought. And if I install Oreo soak test which is for amazin does my device again get bricked.
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You can change the channel just by flashing a stock rom firmware from a different country
Obviously when you bought the phone from Amazon it came with Amazon firmware so it would display amazin
When your motherboard was replaced they flashed retail firmware on it so that's why it now shows retin
You can flash what ever firmware you like (assuming that there's no phone frequencies that are different or not compatible between countries)
As long as your phone is unmodified (no custom rom/recovery root etc) you will be able to ota update
TheFixItMan said:
You can change the channel just by flashing a stock rom firmware from a different country
Obviously when you bought the phone from Amazon it came with Amazon firmware so it would display amazin
When your motherboard was replaced they flashed retail firmware on it so that's why it now shows retin
You can flash what ever firmware you like (assuming that there's no phone frequencies that are different or not compatible between countries)
As long as your phone is unmodified (no custom rom/recovery root etc) you will be able to ota update
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so I can use amazin OTA update for retin also???
riyan65 said:
so I can use amazin OTA update for retin also???
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No - the ota looks for the build number of the current version installed - if the ota is for the Amazon varient you will need that firmware installed
You won't damage your device if you try & flash an ota in stock recovery that is for the wrong firmware - it simply won't flash and gives an error about the wrong firmware version detected
Unless the ota updates both Amazon & retail varients it won't work
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No - the ota looks for the build number of the current version installed - if the ota is for the Amazon varient you will need that firmware installed
You won't damage your device if you try & flash an ota in stock recovery that is for the wrong firmware - it simply won't flash and gives an error about the wrong firmware version detected
Unless the ota updates both Amazon & retail varients it won't work
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Can we flash stock rom with locked bootloader???
riyan65 said:
Can we flash stock rom with locked bootloader???
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Yes
TheFixItMan said:
Yes
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Is there changes of hard bricked??
riyan65 said:
Is there changes of hard bricked??
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Only if you're flashing gpt or bootloader parts - unless you need to change these there's no need to flash them
There is always a risk in anything you do - if you don't know what you're doing use Google YouTube or just stay on stock unmodified
any link for amzin img ?
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any link for amzin img ?
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All firmware can be found here
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/cedric/official/

Android Pie update in Europe

Hi,
I read different information regarding the Pie update of European models. I heard that that it is cancelled in US except of Verizon. But how does it look like with unlocked EU phones? Will we get the update or not? Does anybody know.
The promise to get Pie update was one of the reasons why I bought the phone. Now I feel tricked if we won't get it (and I assume it is the case).
I could get an unofficial update but then I'll loose Google Pay, my bank applications will not work anymore etc. Unlocking the bootloader is not an option for me.
But unlocking bootloader is the only one option for ATT users.
javlada said:
Hi,
I read different information regarding the Pie update of European models. I heard that that it is cancelled in US except of Verizon. But how does it look like with unlocked EU phones? Will we get the update or not? Does anybody know.
The promise to get Pie update was one of the reasons why I bought the phone. Now I feel tricked if we won't get it (and I assume it is the case).
I could get an unofficial update but then I'll loose Google Pay, my bank applications will not work anymore etc. Unlocking the bootloader is not an option for me.
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I use a custom system and am able to use all of those things. I do use magisk for root though and there are modules for this
support.motorola.com/uk/en/softwareupgrade
Still showing as coming to retail editions in the UK.
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