I had flashed stock rom on my Moto G5 XT1677. So it is now on retus channel, with Nov 2017 security patch. However, I see March 2018 patch is already out, but when I check on my phone, it says your software is up to date. How do I fix this ?
Link- https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS127235
Before retus u r in which software channel ??
ayushmantiwari95 said:
Before retus u r in which software channel ??
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My baseband has a string INDIADSDS_CUST, so probably it was retin.
Is there a retin stock rom available somewhere which I can use.
enjoy10 said:
My baseband has a string INDIADSDS_CUST, so probably it was retin.
Is there a retin stock rom available somewhere which I can use.
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I'm in amzin software channel (Moto g5 Cedric xt1677 ) u find the tutorial for this to change my software channel too without bricked my phn n compatible without any problem .can u plz send me the link .
I added my moto g5 about phn details too
ayushmantiwari95 said:
I'm in amzin software channel (Moto g5 Cedric xt1677 ) u find the tutorial for this to change my software channel too without bricked my phn n compatible without any problem .can u plz send me the link .
I added my moto g5 about phn details too
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As per the screenshot, you have a Moto G5 Plus i.e. Potter not Moto G5 Cedric. This thread is about Moto G5 Cedric retin stock image.
enjoy10 said:
As per the screenshot, you have a Moto G5 Plus i.e. Potter not Moto G5 Cedric. This thread is about Moto G5 Cedric retin stock image.
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Do check the image again
Anyone has a image for Cedric XT1677 in which OTA works ? Preferably for retin.
Thank you.
enjoy10 said:
Anyone has a image for Cedric XT1677 in which OTA works ? Preferably for retin.
Thank you.
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OTAs work on all stock rom firmware
Just because you are not receiving an ota doesn't mean its not working - It means it's not available in your country or for your variant
Just because an ota is available in one country doesn't mean its available in another country or for every variant of a device
TheFixItMan said:
OTAs work on all stock rom firmware
Just because you are not receiving an ota doesn't mean its not working - It means it's not available in your country or for your variant
Just because an ota is available in one country doesn't mean its available in another country or for every variant of a device
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. However, as I explained in the first post, I have the stock rom retus, and retus has already released April 2018 security patch. My phone doesn't show it, and is stuck on Nov 2017 patch. How do I identify, if my phone is not eligible, or if there is some other issue.
I had flashed the stock firmware from - https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5/Stock/XT1677/
Is there any other stock rom that works ?
enjoy10 said:
Thanks for the detailed explanation. However, as I explained in the first post, I have the stock rom retus, and retus has already released April 2018 security patch. My phone doesn't show it, and is stuck on Nov 2017 patch. How do I identify, if my phone is not eligible, or if there is some other issue.
I had flashed the stock firmware from - https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5/Stock/XT1677/
Is there any other stock rom that works ?
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Are you located in the country to which the firmware you are using is from? If not you may not get the update - you could try using a vpn to that country
Also the device variant you are using may not have that update available
Eg the XT1675 may have the update available and the XT1677 doesn't
TheFixItMan said:
Are you located in the country to which the firmware you are using is from? If not you may not get the update - you could try using a vpn to that country
Also the device variant you are using may not have that update available
Eg the XT1675 may have the update available and the XT1677 doesn't
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Well after I flashed the stock ROM, my software channel changed to retus (earlier was retin). I tried US VPNs as well, but still no updates. retin has already released Mar 2018 security patch, which my phone is not receiving - https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/in/ei/Solution/MS127237
Hence, is there a way to switch the channel to retin from retus, or is there a stock rom for retin which I can use. Thank you.
enjoy10 said:
Well after I flashed the stock ROM, my software channel changed to retus (earlier was retin). I tried US VPNs as well, but still no updates. retin has already released Mar 2018 security patch, which my phone is not receiving - https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/in/ei/Solution/MS127237
Hence, is there a way to switch the channel to retin from retus, or is there a stock rom for retin which I can use. Thank you.
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It doesn't matter what channel you are on - that's only part of the process
There are also different varients of the device - for example the UK is XT1675
Just because you flashed the retus firmware doesn't mean you will get updates if there is no update for your variant
You would have to flash a different varients firmware manually (this may cause issues with band frequencies)
Thanks everyone. I manually applied all OTA patches as described in post - https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/how-to/cedric-ota-archive-t3795275
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Q: what is the difference between RETASIA, RETIN and RETAIL versions of Firmwares for Moto Z Play. Which one is particularly for Indian Moto Z Play?
[Request]: Please somebody upload official stock Nougat 7.0 Firmware of Moto Z Play for Indian version (RETASIA/RETIN)? There is a 7.0 RETAIL firmware version for Moto Z Play https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/XT1635-02_ADDISON_7.0_NPNS25.137-24-1-4_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip but I doubt that it is not official for India. So please upload stock Nougat 7.0 for Indian version (RETIN/RETASIA) Moto Z Play.
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Q: what is the difference between RETASIA, RETIN and RETAIL versions of Firmwares for Moto Z Play. Which one is particularly for Indian Moto Z Play?
[Request]: Please somebody upload official stock Nougat 7.0 Firmware of Moto Z Play for Indian version (RETASIA/RETIN)? There is a 7.0 RETAIL firmware version for Moto Z Play https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmwar...ubsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip but I doubt that it is not official for India. So please upload stock Nougat 7.0 for Indian version (RETIN/RETASIA) Moto Z Play.
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RETIN and RETASIA ...both are same .... I've tested both ...no difference ....but baseband is different ..works fine
jatinkhatri said:
RETIN and RETASIA ...both are same .... I've tested both ...no difference ....but baseband is different ..works fine
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Baseband is the important part of the Firmware. As you say that they have different basebands. So which baseband version (RETASIA or RETAIL) is for Indian Moto Z Play?
Nobody is telling the exact difference between RETASIA, RETIN and RETAIL versions of Firmwares for Moto Z Play.
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Baseband is the important part of the Firmware. As you say that they have different basebands. So which baseband version (RETASIA or RETAIL) is for Indian Moto Z Play?
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Both works fine .... I've tested ...no issues at all
jatinkhatri said:
Both works fine .... I've tested ...no issues at all
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Can you tell me what is RETIN - Software Channel and how is different from RETASIA?
jatinkhatri said:
RETIN and RETASIA ...both are same .... I've tested both ...no difference ....but baseband is different ..works fine
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But there is no RETIN firmware for Moto Z Play. There are only two types of version for Indian Moto Z Play i.e., RETASIA and RETAIL. As you said you have checked the RETASIA version but what about the RETAIL version firmware for Indian Moto Z Play?
And why are you talking about RETIN? Do you type RETIN mistakenly instead RETAIL? And If not then where you find it? I can not find it anywhere?
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But there is no RETIN firmware for Moto Z Play. There are only two types of version for Indian Moto Z Play i.e., RETASIA and RETAIL. As you said you have checked the RETASIA version but what about the RETAIL version firmware for Indian Moto Z Play?
And why are you talking about RETIN? Do you type RETIN mistakenly instead RETAIL? And If not then where you find it? I can not find it anywhere?
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Yeah it's typo
There is nothing RETIN like thing .... RET means retail and IN means India
You will only find two firmwares RETAIL and RETASIA
I've tested both ...and works fine ...on both ROM you will get OTA update
jatinkhatri said:
Yeah it's typo
There is nothing RETIN like thing .... RET means retail and IN means India
You will only find two firmwares RETAIL and RETASIA
I've tested both ...and works fine ...on both ROM you will get OTA update
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Why my Moto Z Play become bit laggy after unlocking my bootloader? I am on stock Indian Nougat 7.0 ROM (latest updated March security patch) and have installed twrp recovery and Magisk Systemless root v12 without messing any system file/partition. Mobile seems little laggy/jerky sometimes in settings and apps. This problem was not before the unlocking bootloader and installing twrp recovery and Magisk systemless Root. I have also factory reset the mobile and also wipe the Dalvik cache, cache and Data through twrp recovery. But I didn't get any improvement then I reflash stock nougat rom. But the problem of laggyness/jerkyness still existed. What should I do? Any fix or any suggestion?
And please also tell me does most of the android phones get laggy after unlocking the bootloader or after installing the Root?
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Why my Moto Z Play become bit laggy after unlocking my bootloader? I am on stock Indian Nougat 7.0 ROM (latest updated March security patch) and have installed twrp recovery and Magisk Systemless root v12 without messing any system file/partition. Mobile seems little laggy/jerky sometimes in settings and apps. This problem was not before the unlocking bootloader and installing twrp recovery and Magisk systemless Root. I have also factory reset the mobile and also wipe the Dalvik cache, cache and Data through twrp recovery. But I didn't get any improvement then I reflash stock nougat rom. But the problem of laggyness/jerkyness still existed. What should I do? Any fix or any suggestion?
And please also tell me does most of the android phones get laggy after unlocking the bootloader or after installing the Root?
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It's strange , I haven't faced any issues like yours on any ROM with SuperSU or magisk
Have tried flashing stock ROM with stock recovery ?
You can get from here [1]
I haven't tested 7 ( nougat ) from this link ...so i suggest you to flash 6 (mm) and get nougat through OTA
[1] https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/
jatinkhatri said:
It's strange , I haven't faced any issues like yours on any ROM with SuperSU or magisk
Have tried flashing stock ROM with stock recovery ?
You can get from here [1]
[1] https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/
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Q1. Yes I have installed the stock Nougat Rom (RETAIL version) with stock recovery but I still get laggy experince some times especially with jerky/laggy status bar and toggles.
Q2. And also please tell me that during installing stock nougat ROM, should I completely install all the files in zip like bootloader and modem files etc or just install system files, recovery,boot.img, without touching any modem files & bootloader?
Q3. Currently I am on stock nougat 7.0 Indian Rom, so please tell me 100% accurate safe method (adb commands) to install RETAIL nougat stock Rom.
(Please read all questions and give all answers step-by-step. And please give complete answers. Please, No short answers. I Will be very thankful to you for your help.)
Hey, Mate, I got lags on stock nougat even without root and twrp.
I really doubt that systemless root is to blame here, and definitely not TWRP, since there is no possible way it can affect system performance.
karmacoma7 said:
Hey, Mate, I got lags on stock nougat even without root and twrp.
I really doubt that systemless root is to blame here, and definitely not TWRP, since there is no possible way it can affect system performance.
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I have edited the build.prop to enable the miracast by removing just the # from the line and also edit hosts by adaway. Can it effect?
sidg2 said:
I have edited the build.prop to enable the miracast by removing just the # from the line and also edit hosts by adawat. Can it effect?
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No
jatinkhatri said:
It's strange , I haven't faced any issues like yours on any ROM with SuperSU or magisk
Have tried flashing stock ROM with stock recovery ?
You can get from here [1]
I haven't tested 7 ( nougat ) from this link ...so i suggest you to flash 6 (mm) and get nougat through OTA
[1] https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/
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Q1. Yes I have installed the stock Nougat Rom (RETAIL version) with stock recovery but I still get laggy experince some times especially with jerky/laggy status bar and toggles.
Q2. And also please tell me that during reinstalling the stock nougat ROM, should I completely install all the files in zip including bootloader and modem files etc or just i should install system chunk files, recovery & boot.img, without touching any modem files & bootloader?
Q3. Currently I am on stock nougat 7.0 Indian Rom, so please tell me 100% accurate safe method (adb commands) to install RETAIL Nougat 7.0 stock Rom.
(Please read all questions and give all answers step-by-step. And please give complete answers. Please, No short answers. I Will be very thankful to you for your help.)
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You have not give the answer to my question. Please give proper complete answer.
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You have not give the answer to my question. Please give proper complete answer.
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How about searching for that info on your own instead of waiting for someone to come hold your hand and do it for you?
sidg2 said:
You have not give the answer to my question. Please give proper complete answer.
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I'm out of station ...it's weekend.
It's so hard to type long stories on mobile phones ....
jatinkhatri said:
I'm out of station ...it's weekend.
It's so hard to type long stories on mobile phones ....
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Ok when you go to home then give all answers to my questions. Thanks in advance. By the way, are you a software engineer?
I captured this OTA from the official stock rom NPN25.137.67 which updates it to NPN25.137.67-5.
It includes August Security Patch and voice call quality improvements from the previous update.
Here is the link if anybody wants to update via ADB sideload.
Drive Link : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0R-ZTJjg7qmVFAyT1ZTR1BlYmc/view?usp=drivesdk
Can you give full stock rom of this version?
Mayanknagpal.nm said:
I captured this OTA from the official stock rom NPN25.137.67 which updates it to NPN25.137.67-5.
It includes August Security Patch and voice call quality improvements from the previous update.
Here is the link if anybody wants to update via ADB sideload.
Drive Link : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0R-ZTJjg7qmVFAyT1ZTR1BlYmc/view?usp=drivesdk
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Can you please post the screenshot of the build number of the latest January update for the Indian variant of Moto G5 Plus (XT1686), software channel: retin?
Venomous Viper 119 said:
Can you please post the screenshot of the build number of the latest January update for the Indian variant of Moto G5 Plus (XT1686), software channel: retin?
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there is no update released as of now.. but according to moto forums its in testing and will be released by the end of February.. so wait and see
The latest RETIN update is 137-92 and has the 1st November security patch
psychopac said:
The latest RETIN update is 137-92 and has the 1st November security patch
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Which factory image should I flash on XT1686? AMZ, RETAIL or RETLA?
Venomous Viper 119 said:
Which factory image should I flash on XT1686? AMZ, RETAIL or RETLA?
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Look for a RETIN rom. My baseband is M8953_37.46.07.47R POTTER_INDIADSDS_CUST
psychopac said:
Look for a RETIN rom. My baseband is M8953_37.46.07.47R POTTER_INDIADSDS_CUST
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I didn't find links to any RETIN images. Can you please link me to the latest Retin factory image?
Venomous Viper 119 said:
I didn't find links to any RETIN images. Can you please link me to the latest Retin factory image?
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I've replied to your post with the link on a different thread, look it up
Does anyone have the latest firmware of Moto G5?
I have recently Bricked my device and cannot flash the stock firmware because of bootloader downgrade issue. I have the August security patch installed. Please provide that or newer version.
XT1677, Indian variant, CEDRIC_NPPS25.137.73-4 retin
Sharon262529 said:
Does anyone have the latest firmware of Moto G5?
I have recently Bricked my device and cannot flash the stock firmware because of bootloader downgrade issue. I have the August security patch installed. Please provide that or newer version.
XT1677, Indian variant, CEDRIC_NPPS25.137.73-4 retin
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what actually happened to your phone
Bro the download link is below but you need paid membership
https://easy-firmware.com/index.php?a=browse&b=category&id=25905
I don't know why that specific file needs a paid membership and why that is the only website to host that file
you said that firmware or newer, would you like the November security patch
NPP25.137-93
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Sharon262529 said:
Does anyone have the latest firmware of Moto G5?
I have recently Bricked my device and cannot flash the stock firmware because of bootloader downgrade issue. I have the August security patch installed. Please provide that or newer version.
XT1677, Indian variant, CEDRIC_NPPS25.137.73-4 retin
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:crying:
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Firmware for this device can be found
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/cedric/official/
Hello, my Moto g5 is having retin software channel which seems to be Moto g5 plus should have.is any one is having retin software channel in they Moto g5. If anyone is having please let me know as it seem to have Moto g5 plus software channel.
You can see in the screenshot which I have capture on both device's:-
riyan65 said:
Hello, my Moto g5 is having retin software channel which seems to be Moto g5 plus should have.is any one is having retin software channel in they Moto g5. If anyone is having please let me know as it seem to have Moto g5 plus software channel.
You can see in the screenshot which I have capture on both device's:-
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I just need some clarification as I don't fully understand what are trying to say
retin just means I imagine you are a retail India software channel
If you own a moto g5 plus Potter you have posted in the wrong forum
TheFixItMan said:
I just need some clarification as I don't fully understand what are trying to say
retin just means I imagine you are a retail India software channel - are you saying that you own a moto g5 cedric & since updating to oreo with the soak test ota your device now displays as a moto g5 plus potter?
If that is the case then Motorola have just mucked up the build.prop - these are just text lines and can be changed to display anything you like in about phone
If you own a moto g5 plus Potter you have posted in the wrong forum
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Thanks for replying,but I want to say that my Moto g5 has retin software channel which belongs to Moto g5 plus as I am having both the device I have put the screenshot of them.i just want to know that retin software channel is belong to Moto g5 or not, and other Moto g5 is having retin software channel or not.and I didn't register for Moto MFN.
riyan65 said:
Thanks for replying,but I want to say that my Moto g5 has retin software channel which belongs to Moto g5 plus as I am having both the device I have put the screenshot of them.i just want to know that retin software channel is belong to Moto g5 or not, and other Moto g5 is having retin software channel or not.and I didn't register for Moto MFN.
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All moto devices will have a retin software channel (if sold in India)
Ret means it's a retail device (instead of an Amazon device)
in - means it's an Indian varient
So both moto g5 and g5 plus will have a retin software channel
TheFixItMan said:
All moto devices will have a retin software channel (if sold in India)
Ret means it's a retail device (instead of an Amazon device)
in - means it's an Indian varient
So both moto g5 and g5 plus will have a retin software channel
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Thanks for clarifying,but my Moto g5 came with amazin. After replacement of motherboard my device is having retin so that I am having dought. And if I install Oreo soak test which is for amazin does my device again get bricked.
riyan65 said:
Thanks for clarifying,but my Moto g5 came with amazin. After replacement of motherboard my device is having retin so that I am having dought. And if I install Oreo soak test which is for amazin does my device again get bricked.
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You can change the channel just by flashing a stock rom firmware from a different country
Obviously when you bought the phone from Amazon it came with Amazon firmware so it would display amazin
When your motherboard was replaced they flashed retail firmware on it so that's why it now shows retin
You can flash what ever firmware you like (assuming that there's no phone frequencies that are different or not compatible between countries)
As long as your phone is unmodified (no custom rom/recovery root etc) you will be able to ota update
TheFixItMan said:
You can change the channel just by flashing a stock rom firmware from a different country
Obviously when you bought the phone from Amazon it came with Amazon firmware so it would display amazin
When your motherboard was replaced they flashed retail firmware on it so that's why it now shows retin
You can flash what ever firmware you like (assuming that there's no phone frequencies that are different or not compatible between countries)
As long as your phone is unmodified (no custom rom/recovery root etc) you will be able to ota update
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so I can use amazin OTA update for retin also???
riyan65 said:
so I can use amazin OTA update for retin also???
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No - the ota looks for the build number of the current version installed - if the ota is for the Amazon varient you will need that firmware installed
You won't damage your device if you try & flash an ota in stock recovery that is for the wrong firmware - it simply won't flash and gives an error about the wrong firmware version detected
Unless the ota updates both Amazon & retail varients it won't work
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No - the ota looks for the build number of the current version installed - if the ota is for the Amazon varient you will need that firmware installed
You won't damage your device if you try & flash an ota in stock recovery that is for the wrong firmware - it simply won't flash and gives an error about the wrong firmware version detected
Unless the ota updates both Amazon & retail varients it won't work
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Can we flash stock rom with locked bootloader???
riyan65 said:
Can we flash stock rom with locked bootloader???
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Yes
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Yes
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Is there changes of hard bricked??
riyan65 said:
Is there changes of hard bricked??
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Only if you're flashing gpt or bootloader parts - unless you need to change these there's no need to flash them
There is always a risk in anything you do - if you don't know what you're doing use Google YouTube or just stay on stock unmodified
any link for amzin img ?
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any link for amzin img ?
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All firmware can be found here
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/cedric/official/
I've the moto G5 XT1677 dual sim
Software variant - amzin
Software channel - retin
Build No. - NPPS25.137-93-12
Android version - Nougat 7.0 (Stock)
I haven't got any update after the may security patch. Talked to their customer service but they couldn't do anyhing.
So, is there any way to update my phone to the latest version without rooting?
This is my last resort. Any help will be appreciated.
Thank you.
Arindam95 said:
I've the moto G5 XT1677 dual sim
Software variant - amzin
Software channel - retin
Build No. - NPPS25.137-93-12
Android version - Nougat 7.0 (Stock)
I haven't got any update after the may security patch. Talked to their customer service but they couldn't do anyhing.
So, is there any way to update my phone to the latest version without rooting?
This is my last resort. Any help will be appreciated.
Thank you.
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The update is rolling out slowly as I am also having the same device. But you can update it using lenovo moto smart assistant, as it will update your mobile.
riyan65 said:
The update is rolling out slowly as I am also having the same device. But you can update it using lenovo moto smart assistant, as it will update your mobile.
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I just tried to update it through that software, it said "No upgrade task".
One more thing, can the retail build NPPS25.137-93-2-5 be flashed on top of amzin build no. NPPS25.137-93-12? and after that the oreo zip? as these files are available for retail channel but not for amzin.