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verizon vs unlocked google pixel difference?

I've got my eyes on a unlocked Verizon pixel 3 XL that's unlocked. How deep is Verizon's software in the pixel and would it even be possible to fully convert it to a regular Google pixel?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/verizon-pixel-3xl-vs-google-pixel-3xl-t3863130
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mac208x said:
I've got my eyes on a unlocked Verizon pixel 3 XL that's unlocked. How deep is Verizon's software in the pixel and would it even be possible to fully convert it to a regular Google pixel?
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If the bootloader is unlocked I don't see any reason you can't use the non verizon firmware on it. The devices themselves are identical, just the firmware is different. Note that I have not done this so you're at your own risk.
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jd1639 said:
If the bootloader is unlocked I don't see any reason you can't use the non verizon firmware on it. The devices themselves are identical, just the firmware is different. Note that I have not done this so you're at your own risk.
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As far as I know it's sim unlocked. If that's unlocked, bootloader should be unlockable as well right? Or how does the process go on the pixel?
On 6T it's you get a sim unlock, then you send a request application, once approved they send you a .bin to unlock the bootloader thru fastboot

mac208x said:
As far as I know it's sim unlocked. If that's unlocked, bootloader should be unlockable as well right? Or how does the process go on the pixel?
On 6T it's you get a sim unlock, then you send a request application, once approved they send you a .bin to unlock the bootloader thru fastboot
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No, sim and bootloader are two different things. You'd need the bootloader unlocked to flash the regular Google pixel firmware. Sim unlock just allows you to use the phone on different carriers.
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spotmark said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/verizon-pixel-3xl-vs-google-pixel-3xl-t3863130
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There was absolutely nothing helpful In that thread, just speculations.

jd1639 said:
No, sim and bootloader are two different things. You'd need the bootloader unlocked to flash the regular Google pixel firmware. Sim unlock just allows you to use the phone on different carriers.
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I understand the difference so In another words the bootloader is not unlockable on the Verizon one and there is no process for once it's sim unlocked like it is on the Oneplus 6T (where sim unlock is required in order to unlock bootloader)

mac208x said:
I understand the difference so In another words the bootloader is not unlockable on the Verizon one and there is no process for once it's sim unlocked like it is on the Oneplus 6T (where sim unlock is required in order to unlock bootloader)
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No you will not be able to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon variant weather it is sim unlocked or not. However you can uninstall all the pre loaded Verizon apps. I had the Verizon model and was able to uninstall all the bloat. The only difference is the bootloader and being able to root.

Misterxtc said:
No you will not be able to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon variant weather it is sim unlocked or not. However you can uninstall all the pre loaded Verizon apps. I had the Verizon model and was able to uninstall all the bloat. The only difference is the bootloader and being able to root.
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Oh balls. So the only way it's to crack it? That's peachy

mac208x said:
There was absolutely nothing helpful In that thread, just speculations.
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The very first post in that thread says the VZW bootloader can't be unlocked.

mac208x said:
Oh balls. So the only way it's to crack it? That's peachy
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Correct, you might want to check this thread out. It is being looked in to but doesn't look all that promising.

Misterxtc said:
Correct, you might want to check this thread out. It is being looked in to but doesn't look all that promising.
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I've read thru it, I mean someone will crack it sooner or later. Some fine folks brainstorming it. Wish it was as simple as on the one plus, you just wait 7 days and you're unlocked.

Is there a difference in model number or something on the box itself?

mac208x said:
Is there a difference in model number or something on the box itself?
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If you want an unlockable bootloader steer clear of verizon plain and simple. No way around it

c_86 said:
If you want an unlockable bootloader steer clear of verizon plain and simple. No way around it
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I know, was trying to make sure the one I was getting on eBay was infact a Google one. Apparently there's a major difference in the label. Same model number etc. However there's a lot more writing on it. Mention of imported by Google Canada which isn't present on the Verizon one.

Carrier locked phone from ebay What carrier? how to unlock?

So got a pixel 3a xl from ebay from a UK seller. I am in Spain and have no idea how the UK carriers works.
IMEI starts with 35, thats verizon right? Can I check this somehow?
Phone was sold as unlocked.
So how to unlock ? free or paying for it.
I would except a partial refund if it would be unlocked.
edit: seems it is EE UK its locked to , got a popup

Unlock carrier
Hi, you can unlock the carrier by reflashing the OS on the phone. PM me if you have further inquiries.

muhammad42620 said:
Hi, you can unlock the carrier by reflashing the OS on the phone. PM me if you have further inquiries.
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Really? Just got in contact with the seller and he will unlock it with EE.
But can you flash the pixel on locked bootloader? and it will get rid of carrier lock as well?

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Yes, it gets rid of the carrier lock and it changes to the International version. Though there is another way you can unlock it and that doesn't require flashing the phone.

muhammad42620 said:
Yes, it gets rid of the carrier lock and it changes to the International version. Though there is another way you can unlock it and that doesn't require flashing the phone.
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can you please share the other way? im trying to unlock my sprint pixel 3a

That requires paying for an unlock code for the phone, they are usually between 5 to 8 US$.

muhammad42620 said:
That requires paying for an unlock code for the phone, they are usually between 5 to 8 US$.
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I'm very interested to see if i can unlock my phone from the carrier the way you suggesting please reply if you know how and where I can get this code. also sure I will buy a coffee if you tell me how!
thanks
AL

I would not trust this muhammad guy as he is using "sim unlock" language interchangably with device lock. If it is a verizon locked device with OEM unlock greyed out, it is my understanding there is no way to ever fix that. Verizon is the one that implemented that lock, they will not help you unlock it, even if you tell them you are a developer. They tell you to get a google pixel phone directly from google for developer purposes.
having your phone "sim-unlocked" is very different from the device being unlocked.
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If you have already 100% WIPED your phone, skipped through setup and gone straight to dev settings with an active Wi-FI signal and get a greyed out OEM unlock , you will likely never succeed because you inadvertently purchased a bootloader locked phone. SIM unlocked definitely does not equal BL unlockable.
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furious_noob said:
I would not trust this muhammad guy as he is using "sim unlock" language interchangably with device lock. If it is a verizon locked device with OEM unlock greyed out, it is my understanding there is no way to ever fix that. Verizon is the one that implemented that lock, they will not help you unlock it, even if you tell them you are a developer. They tell you to get a google pixel phone directly from google for developer purposes.
having your phone "sim-unlocked" is very different from the device being unlocked.
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But if it is a Verizon version that was able to be OEM Unlocksd and flashed to LOS like I have done, it is now unlocked? Somehow I was lucky in being able to enable OEM unlock on mine.

Question T-Mobile 9 pro flashing

Hello all,
So my op6t died a very violent death the other day. I needed a replacement phone immediately so I went to T-Mobile and bought the 9pro outright. Per T-Mobiles guidelines, I have to wait 40 days before they'll SIM unlock the device. Once they do that for me "oem unlock" option should no longer be grayed out and I can unlock bootloader.
My question is, once my BL is unlocked, am I able to flash the global/international version of OOS? Or am I stuck with T-Mobile roms forever?
Thanks,
Pain

You can unlock the Bootloader when you request a token to unlock.
If you paid full price, why not get it directly from OnePlus with no restrictions?

Pain-N-Panic said:
Hello all,
So my op6t died a very violent death the other day. I needed a replacement phone immediately so I went to T-Mobile and bought the 9pro outright. Per T-Mobiles guidelines, I have to wait 40 days before they'll SIM unlock the device. Once they do that for me "oem unlock" option should no longer be grayed out and I can unlock bootloader.
My question is, once my BL is unlocked, am I able to flash the global/international version of OOS? Or am I stuck with T-Mobile roms forever?
Thanks,
Pain
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Hey bud, you don't have to wait 40 days, try this, it's reliable, this person already unlocked like 4 different T-Mobile devices for me and there is also a tread on how to convert T-Mobile to EU. Good luck.
[CLOSED][T-Mobile USA] Free SIM Unlocking Service - [OnePlus/Samsung/Google/LG/Moto]
Hello XDA, I am back at it again with the free T-Mobile network unlocks. Yep, you heard that right... 100% FREE. This service will allow you to go into your Settings and perform a network unlock. I've been doing this for over 3 years now with...
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tech_head said:
You can unlock the Bootloader when you request a token to unlock.
If you paid full price, why not get it directly from OnePlus with no restrictions?
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That's usually what I do, but I literally destroyed my phone on short notice (caught in the door jam as I closed my car door). I needed a replacement ASAP for work so I just went to T-Mobile.
And I'll definitely check out that thread and send him a PM. Once it's unlocked am I good to flash global OOS releases?

Pain-N-Panic said:
That's usually what I do, but I literally destroyed my phone on short notice (caught in the door jam as I closed my car door). I needed a replacement ASAP for work so I just went to T-Mobile.
And I'll definitely check out that thread and send him a PM. Once it's unlocked am I good to flash global OOS releases?
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Global is a problem since updates are coming from Google and we can't get a full image.
Better to flash EU in this regard.

Jhoopes517 said:
Global is a problem since updates are coming from Google and we can't get a full image.
Better to flash EU in this regard.
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Full images are now up to date for global.

tech_head said:
Full images are now up to date for global.
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News to me. Cool.

tech_head said:
Full images are now up to date for global.
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Where do we download them from? OP website or oxygen updater app?

I just did this yesterday!
This thread has the instruction you need: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...7-to-eu-via-msm-no-unlock-bin-needed.4272837/
So yes, it's possible, but you'd have to keep the bootloader unlocked and flash the T-Mobile modem after every update. Not a big deal.
I actually tried flashing both the EU (firmware ending in BA) and Global full ROM (firmware ending in AA).from OnePlus and didn't notice any difference. But my understanding is that this month is special in that we can download the full update image from OnePlus for the Global/NA variant.
With Magisk Hide, I was able to get Google Pay working and Widevine L1 for Netflix HD.

Can someone help a cautious betty? How do I backup my oneplus 9 pro partitions without root etc? Thanks

Use MSM tool and back them up. Press f8, ctrl-a to select all partitions, use password oneplus.

Great thanks very much.

razercortex said:
Use MSM tool and back them up. Press f8, ctrl-a to select all partitions, use password oneplus.
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Can you restore those backups with MSM as well?

You can with unlocked BL, just boot to fastboot and flash the partitions. You could use SMT download mode, but I wouldn't advise since it could wipe your IMEI and EFS partition.

Question Oneplus 9 Pro T-mobile US Sim Unlock

I bought an OP9Pro Tmobile variant this week, and I want to flash another custom ROM than OOS, but I realized that I need to unlock the sim to unlock the bootloader. Is there eligibility or a requirement to unlock the network sim?
If it's too long I'm planning to return it.

User NiNaNo said:
I bought an OP9Pro Tmobile variant this week, and I want to flash another custom ROM than OOS, but I realized that I need to unlock the sim to unlock the bootloader. Is there eligibility or a requirement to unlock the network sim?
If it's too long I'm planning to return it.
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1. Pay off device if it isn't already or convince someone on TMO chat to perm sim unlock you
2. Get your unlock code from bootloader and send into oneplus and wait about 7 to 14 days to get the unlock.bin file
3. Unlock device once you get the bin file
4. Flash a custom rom
Edit: this will always be like that when buying a device from TMO

SaintZ93 said:
1. Pay off device if it isn't already or convince someone on TMO chat to perm sim unlock you
2. Get your unlock code from bootloader and send into oneplus and wait about 7 to 14 days to get the unlock.bin file
3. Unlock device once you get the bin file
4. Flash a custom rom
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If I have a friend using TMO, I can tell him to ask TMO to perm sim unlock right away?

User NiNaNo said:
If I have a friend using TMO, I can tell him to ask TMO to perm sim unlock right away?
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Did you buy the device in full from tmo or off like ebay

SaintZ93 said:
Did you buy the device in full from tmo or off like ebay
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Yes, I bought the device fully paid from the official OnePlus US store.

User NiNaNo said:
Yes, I bought the device fully paid from the official OnePlus US store.
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Have you tried going into bootloader and unlocking. I could be wrong but since you bought it from the OnePlus store you shouldn't have to go through the unlock.bin process

SaintZ93 said:
Have you tried going into bootloader and unlocking. I could be wrong but since you bought it from the OnePlus store you shouldn't have to go through the unlock.bin process
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Okay, I will try. Thanks for the help, can I contact you if I have more questions that I cannot solve it by myself?

SaintZ93 said:
Have you tried going into bootloader and unlocking. I could be wrong but since you bought it from the OnePlus store you shouldn't have to go through the unlock.bin process
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Fastboot oem unlock... In fastboot mode.

SaintZ93 said:
Have you tried going into bootloader and unlocking. I could be wrong but since you bought it from the OnePlus store you shouldn't have to go through the unlock.bin process
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I contact Oneplus they said I have to use tmobile network for 45 days to unlock the sim lock, and after that, I can submit a form to unlock the bootloader.

User NiNaNo said:
I contact Oneplus they said I have to use tmobile network for 45 days to unlock the sim lock, and after that, I can submit a form to unlock the bootloader.
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Beware it's not just the network but you actually have to be a T-Mobile postpaid customer.

EtherealRemnant said:
Beware it's not just the network but you actually have to be a T-Mobile postpaid customer.
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I'm using TMO mvno, is it possible to get it?

User NiNaNo said:
I'm using TMO mvno, is it possible to get it?
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Nope, has to be T-Mobile postpaid.

EtherealRemnant said:
Nope, has to be T-Mobile postpaid.
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Is there any other way I can get unlock for the TMO sim? Should I call them?

User NiNaNo said:
Is there any other way I can get unlock for the TMO sim? Should I call them?
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No, there is not. You must have T-Mobile postpaid for 45 days to unlock the SIM. You can unlock the bootloader without having the SIM unlocked but it will be stuck a T-Mobile only phone if you do that and don't activate it on T-Mobile.

EtherealRemnant said:
No, there is not. You must have T-Mobile postpaid for 45 days to unlock the SIM. You can unlock the bootloader without having the SIM unlocked but it will be stuck a T-Mobile only phone if you do that and don't activate it on T-Mobile.
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Or try to convince someone on live chat. That worked for me. Got SIM unlocked same day of purchase

SaintZ93 said:
Or try to convince someone on live chat. That worked for me. Got SIM unlocked same day of purchase
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As long as you have T-Mobile postpaid. They don't, they have a T-Mobile MVNO. Even with postpaid, it's very rare that you can get them to unlock the phone if you're a new customer and it hasn't been at least a month.

User NiNaNo said:
Is there any other way I can get unlock for the TMO sim? Should I call them?
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You can definitely unlock the bootloader and flash stuff without the sim being unlocked but I'm not sure if that helps you in this case. What mvno is it?
For what it's worth, I bought mine a week ago. On the first day, I talked to 6 support agents. Some on the phone, some in chat, some on twitter @tmobilehelp.
If you insist you can have it unlocked because you bought it outright and own the device, need to unlock the bootloader for development, someone will try to help.
I had two agents who tried to unlock it for me but said they can't because the IMEI starts with 99 and tmobile devices are typically 35. They said they escalated it and I should be able to unlock within 48 hours.
One twitter agent asked me for receipt to submit with the request so it's not denied.
I'm currently on a sim locked eu-flashed le2127. I plan to flash back to stock tmo this weekend. I was waiting for my cust-unlock token from OnePlus.
I am going to flash stock tmo, use One+_TooL to turn on oem unlock in settings, flash cust-unlock.bin to unlock bootloader and root. Then I am going to attempt the sim unlock after root, to see if I can see anything we may be able to use later for self unlocking

Appreciative said:
You can definitely unlock the bootloader and flash stuff without the sim being unlocked but I'm not sure if that helps you in this case. What mvno is it?
For what it's worth, I bought mine a week ago. On the first day, I talked to 6 support agents. Some on the phone, some in chat, some on twitter @tmobilehelp.
If you insist you can have it unlocked because you bought it outright and own the device, need to unlock the bootloader for development, someone will try to help.
I had two agents who tried to unlock it for me but said they can't because the IMEI starts with 99 and tmobile devices are typically 35. They said they escalated it and I should be able to unlock within 48 hours.
One twitter agent asked me for receipt to submit with the request so it's not denied.
I'm currently on a sim locked eu-flashed le2127. I plan to flash back to stock tmo this weekend. I was waiting for my cust-unlock token from OnePlus.
I am going to flash stock tmo, use One+_TooL to turn on oem unlock in settings, flash cust-unlock.bin to unlock bootloader and root. Then I am going to attempt the sim unlock after root, to see if I can see anything we may be able to use later for self unlocking
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Oh okay please let me know if you have an update, because I think your situation is very similar to mine. My mvno is 'US mobile'. Thank you for your time. I'll try to contact to Tmo support if they can unlock my sim.

User NiNaNo said:
Oh okay please let me know if you have an update, because I think your situation is very similar to mine. My mvno is 'US mobile'. Thank you for your time. I'll try to contact to Tmo support if they can unlock my sim.
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I was able to get unlocked today.
I got a reply from @tmobilehelp on Twitter saying "we escalated the request to the unlock team. They received an error during unlock. You have to talk to the manufacturer". Of course OnePlus says TMobile will have to unlock the phone (but OnePlus is supposed to reach out tomorrow, the guy said he would check into other methods for me to bypass TMobile. Not expecting anything)
Then I asked her if she could try to submit it again because I was on the network now and wasn't on the network the first time I asked (I have an active account but my sim wasn't in the 9 Pro).
She asked me for a full receipt instead of my edited receipt so she could submit it again showing proof I own the phone fully.
While I was getting that documentation ready, she flagged me down in a Twitter DM to say:
"Upon further investigation into your IMEI, we were able to approve your unlock request. You are now able to unlock via the in-phone unlock button!"
She said "your phone comes back as 'purchased directly from TMobile', which is a different process. I did not realize this at first but now your request is done and will unlock"
You may get lucky finding her on Twitter again and going for the same story. She knows how to get it handled. Her name is Yecenia. When she's active on Twitter, you will see her replying to people complaining @TmobileHelp with "^YeceniaFlores" as the signature (or similar). Maybe ask for her to help if you get another agent. Explain that you own the phone and want to unlock it for development, offer to show proof of purchase and see what happens

Appreciative said:
I was able to get unlocked today.
I got a reply from @tmobilehelp on Twitter saying "we escalated the request to the unlock team. They received an error during unlock. You have to talk to the manufacturer". Of course OnePlus says TMobile will have to unlock the phone (but OnePlus is supposed to reach out tomorrow, the guy said he would check into other methods for me to bypass TMobile. Not expecting anything)
Then I asked her if she could try to submit it again because I was on the network now and wasn't on the network the first time I asked (I have an active account but my sim wasn't in the 9 Pro).
She asked me for a full receipt instead of my edited receipt so she could submit it again showing proof I own the phone fully.
While I was getting that documentation ready, she flagged me down in a Twitter DM to say:
"Upon further investigation into your IMEI, we were able to approve your unlock request. You are now able to unlock via the in-phone unlock button!"
She said "your phone comes back as 'purchased directly from TMobile', which is a different process. I did not realize this at first but now your request is done and will unlock"
You may get lucky finding her on Twitter again and going for the same story. She knows how to get it handled. Her name is Yecenia. When she's active on Twitter, you will see her replying to people complaining @TmobileHelp with "^YeceniaFlores" as the signature (or similar). Maybe ask for her to help if you get another agent. Explain that you own the phone and want to unlock it for development, offer to show proof of purchase and see what happens
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Okay thanks for the review, I'll try your way tomorrow Monday. I really appreciate your work and reply!

Question 2023 T-Mobile vs Unlocked OP 9 Pro

Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?

shonkin said:
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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Not Sure about non us but unlocked yes you can

shonkin said:
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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Don't send back.... Using the T-Mobile app and chat you can be over complementary and ask for full unlock and should be able to get it that way. Option 2 is to use a modded MSM tool to convert to Global, unlock bootloader, us a modded Glo to TMO MSM TOOL to get back to TMO firmware and update. But recommend to stay away from A13 for now
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TheGhost1951 said:
Don't send back.... Using the T-Mobile app and chat you can be over complementary and ask for full unlock and should be able to get it that way. Option 2 is to use a modded MSM tool to convert to Global, unlock bootloader, us a modded Glo to TMO MSM TOOL to get back to TMO firmware and update. But recommend to stay away from A13 for now
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Was your recommendation to avoid updating based on the trouble that DaveImagery was having with achieving root? If so, I can assure you rooting the T-Mobile android 13 update is no different than rooting the global or eu firmware, aside from having to always temp boot TWRP rather than actually install it. TWRP acts up sometimes but it works. I think he was either having a problem with the driver's, USB port, or cable, or something went wrong when he pulled the boot image via MSM tool.

Masterchief87 said:
Was your recommendation to avoid updating based on the trouble that DaveImagery was having with achieving root? If so, I can assure you rooting the T-Mobile android 13 update is no different than rooting the global or eu firmware, aside from having to always temp boot TWRP rather than actually install it. TWRP acts up sometimes but it works. I think he was either having a problem with the driver's, USB port, or cable, or something went wrong when he pulled the boot image via MSM tool.
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I just want to wait awhile to ensure all the kinks are out be for updating. Any new features etc...

shonkin said:
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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If you got the factory unlocked one then sure, it'll work with a t-mobile sim. The question is whether it will be 100% compatible with t-mobile's network or not. I don't know the answer to that question. It's worth noting however that the T-Mobile variant is slower to get updates, and just got Android 13 this month. If I'm not mistaken, the global and EU variants got Android 13 last year. This fall/winter the other variants will probably be getting android 14, while the t-mobile variant waits until next spring.

T-Mobile updates are slower because they are more refined and sometimes include multiple updates in one update. That is why they are slower..

shonkin said:
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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What did you decide to do?

shonkin said:
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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im on an unlocked (purchased new) OP9 pro and I have no issues. I've always wanted to see if TMO modem works better, but it works great enough that it't more of just a curiosity.

TheGhost1951 said:
What did you decide to do?
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I decided to stay with what I got, esp. as the seller also (belatedly) included the original 65w fast charger. I did a bit of whining. So now I'm trying to get my employer to leverage t-mobile into unlocking the phone, since we've been w/ them a long time and it technically is my employers' phone. (They appreciate my geek interests and are willing.)
If I can get it unlocked, the next questions will be about just how flexible T-Mobile's sim will be with various rooted Oxygen OS's.
I used to root all the time.... my Samsung Note 4 (dang I loved that phone), my OnePlus 2 (rebuilt from 2 broken ones... by me!), and so on. But Samsung's Note 9 wasn't rootable (I didn't have the Exynos version). So I got stuck. This time I bought the OnePlus 9 Pro intentionally in order to play w/ rooting again.
But the whole thing has gotten more interesting. TWRP... does it still work and do the awesome backups / restores of multiple different systems on the same phone? And Magisk.... sheesh... so much I don't know.

shonkin said:
I decided to stay with what I got, esp. as the seller also (belatedly) included the original 65w fast charger. I did a bit of whining. So now I'm trying to get my employer to leverage t-mobile into unlocking the phone, since we've been w/ them a long time and it technically is my employers' phone. (They appreciate my geek interests and are willing.)
If I can get it unlocked, the next questions will be about just how flexible T-Mobile's sim will be with various rooted Oxygen OS's.
I used to root all the time.... my Samsung Note 4 (dang I loved that phone), my OnePlus 2 (rebuilt from 2 broken ones... by me!), and so on. But Samsung's Note 9 wasn't rootable (I didn't have the Exynos version). So I got stuck. This time I bought the OnePlus 9 Pro intentionally in order to play w/ rooting again.
But the whole thing has gotten more interesting. TWRP... does it still work and do the awesome backups / restores of multiple different systems on the same phone? And Magisk.... sheesh... so much I don't know.
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TWRP is a little wonky, Magisk is a yess!

If you have no luck through TMO with unlocking the bootloader, let me know. There is another way to do that.

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If you have no luck through TMO with unlocking the bootloader, let me know. There is another way to do that.
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How exactly would that work? I've read that using the T-Mobile->EU MSM allows you to unlock the bootloader without an unlock token, but wouldn't using another MSM to go back to T-Mobile firmware re-lock the bootloader? Would the fact that it's already been unlocked previously allow it to be unlocked again without a token, even after flashing back to the T-Mobile firmware? Mine came sim unlocked and didn't have any trouble getting an unlock token so I never tried the workaround and I've just flashed the unlock token every time.

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How exactly would that work? I've read that using the T-Mobile->EU MSM allows you to unlock the bootloader without an unlock token, but wouldn't using another MSM to go back to T-Mobile firmware re-lock the bootloader? Would the fact that it's already been unlocked previously allow it to be unlocked again without a token, even after flashing back to the T-Mobile firmware? Mine came sim unlocked and didn't have any trouble getting an unlock token so I never tried the workaround and I've just flashed the unlock token every time.
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I have a modded TMO to Glo and a modded Glo to TMO.....I have used it before....

So it is in fact possible to skip waiting for a token. You have to use MSM to convert to EU then you're free to do whatever since the bootloader is now unlocked? Am I understanding? I'd like to personally flash Lineage as soon as I'm unlocked, will the above process work for me?

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I have a modded TMO to Glo and a modded Glo to TMO.....I have used it before....
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I believe you. What I'm saying is that according to what I have read, every time you use a MSM tool it locks the bootloader. So you convert to eu, and unlock the bootloader without an unlock token, because this specific firmware is unique in its ability to be unlocked without a token. Then you flash the T-Mobile firmware with another MSM which locks the bootloader all over again, and now you are once again on T-Mobile firmware with a locked bootloader and no unlock token. My questions are:
1) Does the fact that you previously unlocked the bootloader permanently do away with the need for an unlock token, even after you MSM back to T-Mobile firmware and re-lock the bootloader?
2) If so then how do you unlock the bootloader the second time after you MSM back to T-Mobile firmware? Do you repeat the same procedure you did on the EU firmware, or do you just run the "fastboot oem unlock" command from now on?

Masterchief87 said:
I believe you. What I'm saying is that according to what I have read, every time you use a MSM tool it locks the bootloader. So you convert to eu, and unlock the bootloader without an unlock token, because this specific firmware is unique in its ability to be unlocked without a token. Then you flash the T-Mobile firmware with another MSM which locks the bootloader all over again, and now you are once again on T-Mobile firmware with a locked bootloader and no unlock token. My questions are:
1) Does the fact that you previously unlocked the bootloader permanently do away with the need for an unlock token, even after you MSM back to T-Mobile firmware and re-lock the bootloader?
2) If so then how do you unlock the bootloader the second time after you MSM back to T-Mobile firmware? Do you repeat the same procedure you did on the EU firmware, or do you just run the "fastboot oem unlock" command from now on?
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The way it is done with the modded MSM Tool to go from Global back to TMO it does not lock the bootloader. Can't explain why, but it doesn't. A pure TMO MSM Tool will relock the bootloader. Been there and done both ways.

In a few days I will do it again just to triple check the procedures and create the necessary modded MSM Tool zip files to share.

Another way to get unlock token is by booting to bootloader and run the command to get unlock code. Copy the long list of numbers along with IMEI and serial number and email OnePlus support with the information stating the TMO unlock token website is not working for you and they will generate a token for you. I had to do that when my first token quit working....

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