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Hi guys
I would know if there is solution for boost the audio with headphone connected at the phone
thanks
To me this is a major flaw of the defy so far. I can hardly listen to my music when I am walking outside and I really don't understand why the volume is so weak when using the headphone
get better headphones?
Hi, I'm using the Sennheiser CX 200 Street II (excellent price for the quality) and I never use more than half of the volume. So, good inear pieces (those with rubber tips) might help
PS: Please don't tell me you're using the stock headset! They might work for one or two calls but not for enjoying music.
PPS: Does anyone know a compatible headset adapter? I mean one with a built-in mic that allows you to use your own headphones without the need of a soldering iron
As far as I noticed with my girlfriend's ipod touch, she can use my headphones to make skype calls. I can only suspect that they work the other way around. (her headphones are far but I might use someone elses iphone headphones tomorrow)
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The iPod/iPhone Headset works, as I read several times. Unfortunately, you can't use your own headphones with that headset. Know what I mean? I'm looking for something that provides a mic and a 3,5mm jack for headphones
€: Finally, found what I was looking for: http://cgi.ebay.de/e12i-Stereo-Head...812849?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f064f7f31 I hope the quality is not so poor.
I use the music app Poweramp. Apart from being the most comprehensive music app there is, it also has a built in software amplifier to boost volume. I highly recommend it, definitley an app worth paying for.
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One of these days (I'll have to go buy a 3.5mm socket) I'm planning to give an old Nokia 3.5mm set of headphones a new life. I only have to study how the mic/button work (might be some different resistors involved).
I'll get back with a how to after I'm done.
Anyone try the ZaggSmartbuds for www.zagg.com they have a 3.5mm jack, inline mic, inline volume control(analog). i normally use my SD9-HD bluetooth headset when listening to music but sometimes I prefered to be wired. Have been considering the Zaggs real hard.
But exist some head phone with mic and noise reduction function all in one?
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Well... the ZAGGsmartbuds, the iPhone inears, the bose headset, the V-Moda Vibe
II w/mic...
I have found this
http://cgi.ebay.it/ZAGG-SMARTBUDS-N...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item5d2d8b12e4
but I have read in the footer ad there is wrote this:
"Some non-US smartphones, such as the Samsung i9000, have a unique jack configuration that requires an adapter for use with the ZAGGsmartbuds."
So, for My Motorola Defy (France) could be some problem with this headphone??
thank's guys
We might have a different cable configuration at the jack, but we'll never know, if no one tries
PS: I'll tell you if the headset adapter that I ordered via eBay works for the european Defy and how it works.
I was more thinking of some kind of software solution to amplify/unlock the Defy's volume (I guess it is limited for health reasons).
The ones I found on the market just don't work.
I do not intend to buy a new headset as I use it 5-10 minutes a day at most.
Try the poweramp music player. It offers a graphic equalizer and the opportunity to amplify the volume. Remember: too much amplification results in bad sound.
Hi all,
Just wanted to put a thread together to talk around the audio capabilities of the HTC 10. From what I can see, the audio is split up into a couple of different areas:
1) Good quality internal hardware (DAC and separate amps for speakers and earphone),
2) Powerful two way speaker setup,
3) Better than normal earphones to take advantage of the hardware, and
4) Good quality software with the Personal Audio Profile System.
5) There is also Airplay support for those with 3rd party airplay speakers.
What hardware are people currently using (earphones, headphones, portable amps, portable usb DAC's)? When the phone is released, it will be good to get peoples impressions and reviews. Also to understand how different hardware affects those experiences (ie. different earphones work better or worse with this phone)??? Also, could this phone be good enough to take you away from dedicated hardware you might have (proper portable music players)?
One thing that I have noted which I haven't seen noted anywhere else is the Personal Audio Profile System being the same as what Aumeo has/is coming out with with their device (click here).
I personally have a couple of pairs of AKG over ear headphones and a pair of Flare R2Pro in-ear phones. Once I get my HTC, I will compare them with the hi-res ear-phones they come with and share my thoughts.
Open questions:
1) What DAC's are being used? What is inbuilt from Qualcomm or specialist 3rd party hardware?
2) What type of 3.5mm connector is being used (AHJ or OMTP), we believe AHJ based on previous HTC phones but could do with confirming)
rav101 said:
Hi all,
Just wanted to put a thread together to talk around the audio capabilities of the HTC 10. From what I can see, the audio is split up into a couple of different areas: 1) Good quality internal hardware (DAC and separate amps for speakers and earphone), 2) Powerful two way speaker setup, 3) better than normal earphones to take advantage of the hardware, and 4) Good quality software with the Personal Audio Profile System. Over these, there is the point that it works with Airplay which has a lot of support in terms of the 3rd party speaker market.
Just curious to see how people feel about the Audio capabilities of the 10 and whether that might be enough to take you away from dedicated hardware if you current use that?
One thing that I have noted which I haven't seen noted anywhere else is the Personal Audio Profile System being the same as what Aumeo has/is coming out with with their device (click here).
I currently have a couple of AKG over ears which I can't drive directly from my LG G4 without having a portable amp in the middle. I also have a pair of Flare R2Pro in ear phones that are quite hard to drive. Can't wait to test these out with the 10 when it comes out!!!
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The 10 recognizes that you have plugged (wired) earphones into the jack and offers you two options for customization, a 'quick question' method and a more detailed method that requires listening to tones on left then right in different frequency ranges. You then have the option to 'save' the audio profile for those earphones. If you plug a different set of earphones in, the device recognizes it and offers you to use the existing profile or create a new one (you can store multiple profiles). This does not work with BT earphones, by the way.
The sound is superior to anything I've ever heard on any audio device. It can make cheap earphones sound good (although I recommend at least midrange earphones), and with decent earphones (I use a Shure pair) it's terrific.
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The 10 recognizes that you have plugged (wired) earphones into the jack and offers you two options for customization, a 'quick question' method and a more detailed method that requires listening to tones on left then right in different frequency ranges. You then have the option to 'save' the audio profile for those earphones. If you plug a different set of earphones in, the device recognizes it and offers you to use the existing profile or create a new one (you can store multiple profiles). This does not work with BT earphones, by the way.
The sound is superior to anything I've ever heard on any audio device. It can make cheap earphones sound good (although I recommend at least midrange earphones), and with decent earphones (I use a Shure pair) it's terrific.
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That's awesome news that it does this for wired earphones!
Which pair of Shure earphones do you use? And other than these headphones, have you had a chance to try them with any other different sets of earphones?? Have you had a chance to try them with any over ear headphones, ones that might be harder to drive?
Whilst I have your attention. Have you had a play around with different audio formats / qualities? MP3 vs 24bit FLAC to see how much of a difference this makes on this setup?
Regards,
Ravi
rav101 said:
That's awesome news that it does this for wired earphones!
Which pair of Shure earphones do you use? And other than these headphones, have you had a chance to try them with any other different sets of earphones?? Have you had a chance to try them with any over ear headphones, ones that might be harder to drive?
Whilst I have your attention. Have you had a play around with different audio formats / qualities? MP3 vs 24bit FLAC to see how much of a difference this makes on this setup?
Regards,
Ravi
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I don't drive with earphones on (that's illegal here).
I have used the Personal Audio Profiles on 3 different pairs of earphones; a test set supplied with the test phone, Shure e3c's and an over-the-ear Audio-Technica pair. The Shure's and the test earphones are the best. The test earphones are my current daily (and may well be what comes in the box for some models, but I don't know because they don't tell us).
How do the speakers sound? As good as HTC One M7/8/9? Better?
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I don't drive with earphones on (that's illegal here).
I have used the Personal Audio Profiles on 3 different pairs of earphones; a test set supplied with the test phone, Shure e3c's and an over-the-ear Audio-Technica pair. The Shure's and the test earphones are the best. The test earphones are my current daily (and may well be what comes in the box for some models, but I don't know because they don't tell us).
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Sorry, to clarify when I say 'harder to drive' I mean over ear headphones that have a higher impedance. In this case, on other less powerful music players (or other phones), the headphones sound quiet even at max volume.
Trying to find out if it will have aptx hd enabled but no info. Also air play to aiport to dac should sound pretty decent
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I am excited to see the phones response ranges in a test.
Would be cool to have my vinyl rips playing as good as it can get without a $1000 DAP.
Locklear308 said:
I am excited to see the phones response ranges in a test.
Would be cool to have my vinyl rips playing as good as it can get without a $1000 DAP.
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Now that the embargo has lifted, I presume we will start seeing more in depth reviews and those should hopefully include more detailed audio tests.
I use a fiio e12 to amp my current phone (LG G4). Nothing fancy but pretty sure the HTC 10 will do much better than that setup now. :victory:
madcowintucson said:
Trying to find out if it will have aptx hd enabled but no info. Also air play to aiport to dac should sound pretty decent
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I am curious about this too as i will be buying the new lg bluetooth headset.
The audio is one of the main reason why I want this beast!
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Me too! I own a pair of mid-to-top range RHA T10 and I am really anticipating how these will sound with the HTC 10. I am a audiophile and the sound quality is really important to me.
My last two phone's have been the HTC M8 and LG G4. I have found that I use my phone less for music now that I'm using the G4 than the M8 and its because I just enjoy it less. Can't wait to hear how these sound with a good pair of earphones.
Audio Jack
Does anyone know what kind of audio jack standard the HTC 10 will use? Is it AHJ or OMTP?
Then i'll know if I can use the inline controls of my RHA T20i's as currently with my HTC m8.
Edit: Btw - I strongly advise using the Neutron app if you want high-end music. Already supports FLAC but last update also added DSD support for the SACD fanatics
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neutroncode.mp
Hopefully USB Audio works as well! Have they mentioned that at all?
Heretic Infidel said:
Does anyone know what kind of audio jack standard the HTC 10 will use? Is it AHJ or OMTP?
Then i'll know if I can use the inline controls of my RHA T20i's as currently with my HTC m8.
Edit: Btw - I strongly advise using the Neutron app if you want high-end music. Already supports FLAC but last update also added DSD support for the SACD fanatics
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neutroncode.mp
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Found this.
http://forums.windowscentral.com/wi...87-note-headset-standards-omtp-ahj-apple.html
Says HTC uses AHJ...
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Found this.
http://forums.windowscentral.com/wi...87-note-headset-standards-omtp-ahj-apple.html
Says HTC uses AHJ...
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Why on EARTH is there more than one? This would be standardized now days like USB...
Is the audio upconversion/upsampling BS something that can be disabled from settings?
I am happy with the sound quality of the 10 through the speakers as well as through the jack
What type of DAC is in the HTC 10? Because just amping the Qualcomm native DAC won't result in clean awesome audio, just louder. I'm hoping is cirrus/Wolfson or Ess Sabre premium DAC's
I've just done an extensive test of the speaker , Bluetooth, wired headphones and quad DAC using a large selection of headphones. Type C too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/1...-wired-over-12-different-headphones-compared/
Use this thread to add any other audio reviews you've liked plus headphones you're using that sound great with the V30.
Any questions too. I'll try and answer what I can.
One good one is by Pocketnow https://youtu.be/1K7oK7yUE0g
Nice update Gavin
Wondered if you anyone tried the Sound magic E80's with the V30 and what they are like
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Nice update Gavin
Wondered if you anyone tried the Sound magic E80's with the V30 and what they are like
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Thanks mate. Not yet, but I’ll see if I can get a pair and let you know.
Thanks OP, watched the video, but still had a question. So far I have not used any headphones or seen the DAC settings. However I have used the USB out to my car audio system and it works perfectly, short of DSD, it plays everything else fine. It looks like its playing DSD but I dont hear any output.
My question is does the DAC come into play with the USB or is it bypassed?
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Thanks OP, watched the video, but still had a question. So far I have not used any headphones or seen the DAC settings. However I have used the USB out to my car audio system and it works perfectly, short of DSD, it plays everything else fine. It looks like its playing DSD but I dont hear any output.
My question is does the DAC come into play with the USB or is it bypassed?
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It's bypassed
One Twelve said:
Nice update Gavin
Wondered if you anyone tried the Sound magic E80's with the V30 and what they are like
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I have them. They are my favorite IEH. Sound great with the V30 and trigger the HIM. I have about 4 different sets but haven't tried any from the article.
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I have them. They are my favorite IEH. Sound great with the V30 and trigger the HIM. I have about 4 different sets but haven't tried any from the article.
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That is good to know. Will have to try and get some ASAP.
There are 3 variants of E80
The first E80, has no mic only audio
Then came the E80S, has mic but only one button on the remote
And now the E80C, has mic but 3 buttons on the remote, like what you could expect with stock earphones
Reviews are good with LG
https://www.headphonezone.in/products/soundmagic-e80c
One Twelve said:
There are 3 variants of E80
The first E80, has no mic only audio
Then came the E80S, has mic but only one button on the remote
And now the E80C, has mic but 3 buttons on the remote, like what you could expect with stock earphones
Reviews are good with LG
https://www.headphonezone.in/products/soundmagic-e80c
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Thanks for that link.
I have the E80s. I believe the actually earphone is the same with all models. I like controlling everything from the phone, so never use the button on the headphone. Depending on if you need the extra functionality, you can save some money by going without.
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Thanks for that link.
I have the E80s. I believe the actually earphone is the same with all models. I like controlling everything from the phone, so never use the button on the headphone. Depending on if you need the extra functionality, you can save some money by going without.
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What if you get a voice call while listening ?
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What if you get a voice call while listening ?
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It's so rare for me that I'm not sure.
Got the Fiio F9 3 way balanced hybrid In ear headphones yesterday. Even just using the 3.5mm non balanced cable with Quad Dac in normal mode, the pairing was outstanding. Quad Dac off was very noticeable worse.
Hi, nice video and review gavi...
I made a coment and question on youtube about that video, maybe you did not sow it so i past it here again anyway:
¨Nice video. Thanks Gavin. I am interested in this phone especially because of the audio, so this video is the best that i could find. But i have a question to make you, if you will so kind to answer me.
when you say trigger the DAC you mean the Amplifier? Because my guess is the DAC can be activated no matter the type of headphones impedance. Yes or not?
So the audio quality should be pretty much the same if not perhaps a little more stable, flat frequency variation.¨ Thank you in advance.
rouxinol20 said:
Hi, nice video and review gavi...
I made a coment and question on youtube about that video, maybe you did not sow it so i past it here again anyway:
¨Nice video. Thanks Gavin. I am interested in this phone especially because of the audio, so this video is the best that i could find. But i have a question to make you, if you will so kind to answer me.
when you say trigger the DAC you mean the Amplifier? Because my guess is the DAC can be activated no matter the type of headphones impedance. Yes or not?
So the audio quality should be pretty much the same if not perhaps a little more stable, flat frequency variation.¨ Thank you in advance.
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Thanks for feedback. Check YouTube. I have replied. I was fast asleep hence why I have just replied , time zone difference FYI I reply to every comment.
Has anyone use in pair with Sennheiser PXC 550? How do we know if the phone is using Aptx or not? Since PXC 550 support this codec, though its not the HD
Hi guys,
I've been reading contradicting opinions on sound quality from headphones output for this device (adapter actually). How would you rate it in terms of loudness and overall sound quality? Also, do you find it inconvenient to use in any way?
Thanks,
g
gimche said:
Hi guys,
I've been reading contradicting opinions on sound quality from headphones output for this device (adapter actually). How would you rate it in terms of loudness and overall sound quality? Also, do you find it inconvenient to use in any way?
Thanks,
g
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i dont believe thats contradicting opinions... i tested 3 or 4 handsfree (xiaomi noise cancellation usb-c, sony mdr nc-31 em and other cheapest) and i did a comparation with xperia (z3 and z5) and sound is more natural on xiaomi; loud is it enough (if u dont like ,u can root and increase manual the volume until u can damage ur ears)...is a very good phone about sound
Thanks 7tky. What I meant by contradicting, is that some reviewers claim that sound from wired headphones is awesome, and some claim it's crap. That's why I wanted to hear opinions from people that actually own and use this phone.
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Thanks 7tky. What I meant by contradicting, is that some reviewers claim that sound from wired headphones is awesome, and some claim it's crap. That's why I wanted to hear opinions from people that actually own and use this phone.
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I'd say sound from this phone is pretty damn good, and GSMarena's tests confirm that. The phone can power pretty big headphones too. It powers Sennheiser HD6XX's pretty well and those are 300ohm cans. Obviously not close to as clear as a dedicated DAP/Amp combo but still impressive that it can power such headphones to near uncomfortable volume. Also according to a review that I can't seem to find anymore, the phone outputs analag signal from the USB-C port so the dongle doesn't have a DAC and Amp in it. All it is doing is turning the USB-C port into a 3.5mm jack which probably explains the capability to power my Sennheiser's.
Yup, I looked into this myself. I had a DAC and AMP combo for my old Moto Nexus 6 (I wasn't happy with the sound quality of the jack). This phone is surprisingly nice. I ended up buying a few extra USB C headphone adapters straight from Google (the official ones for the the Pixels were $9 when I got them). I haven't needed my DAC and AMP since switching.
And from what I've seen the DAC is internal on this phone (as opposed to the Pixel 2 which needs the DAC to be in the dongle). Idk if that allows the port to send more power straight to the headphones or not. But I'm happy.
I thought I would get annoyed by the dongle, but I ended up just ordering a few of the Google ones and keeping them on my headphones.
Plus, Viper4Android works fine for me for some additional tuning of audio (I'm using AOSP ROMs though, not MIUI, not sure if it works in MIUI).
Keep in mind I just use some Klipsch earbuds (R6, X11, and AS-5i), nothing that requires a crazy amount of power to run.
Hope this helps.
Ok, I bought the phone and tested it for a while now, so thought I might share my experience here...
With global rom phone came with (unfortunately, I don't know the version), sound quality was great, but volume was low. Further, it had a weird bug - when I was listening to music and notification cut trough, volume would jump much higher. I could easily recreate the bug by playing music, then going to sound settings and touching slider for ringtone/notification volume, then back to music. Volume would jump higher every time. Some googling reviled that lots of people experienced similar volume jumping bugs.
OTA update (again, I don't know to which miui version) fixed this, but volume was still relatively low. When I say this, I'm comparing it to my previous devices. I'm not trying to fry my ears, though it's always nice to have the option as some music is simply mastered to much lower volume, especially older stuff.
Now I'm on lineage and volume bust is just what miui was missing - few notches higher. I listen modern pumped-up stuff 2 or 3 steps below max, and crank it up to max for very low volume old stuff. Perfect balance for me.
I guess tweaking the correct config file would adjust volume limit on miui. If anyone knows how to do that, please share, it would be much appreciated.
If someone's curious about it, I'm using zero audio carbo tenore earphones.
My audioquest Dragonfly usb DAC stopped working after a MIUI upgrade on my mix 2 since the summer. That is, the phone recognises the DAC but the sound quality light stays red (instead of say, indigo) to indicate no signal.. Updating to MIUI 10 made no difference. I've confirmed it works with the 2S running Android 8 opr 1.70623.032 - My Mix 2 has opr 1.70623.027 and he meeting if that's a difference or if anyone has similar issues of a USB digital audio converter not working on their Mix 2?
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if anyone has similar issues of a USB digital audio converter not working on their Mix 2?
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I'm interested in answer to this question too. Have you tried messing with developer options? Is the problem miui related ; did someone test on linage / aosp based roms?
...anyone tried this thing?
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Yup, I looked into this myself. I had a DAC and AMP combo for my old Moto Nexus 6 (I wasn't happy with the sound quality of the jack). This phone is surprisingly nice. I ended up buying a few extra USB C headphone adapters straight from Google (the official ones for the the Pixels were $9 when I got them). I haven't needed my DAC and AMP since switching.
And from what I've seen the DAC is internal on this phone (as opposed to the Pixel 2 which needs the DAC to be in the dongle). Idk if that allows the port to send more power straight to the headphones or not. But I'm happy.
I thought I would get annoyed by the dongle, but I ended up just ordering a few of the Google ones and keeping them on my headphones.
Plus, Viper4Android works fine for me for some additional tuning of audio (I'm using AOSP ROMs though, not MIUI, not sure if it works in MIUI).
Keep in mind I just use some Klipsch earbuds (R6, X11, and AS-5i), nothing that requires a crazy amount of power to run.
Hope this helps.
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Is the google dongle more sturdy? i have a Brainwavz HM5 which have a thick cable and the flimsy cable in the dongle supplied with the mi mix 2s feels like it will break any second from the weight of the cable on my HM5.
i skipped the original adapter and buy a new adapter(it's a dac hidizs sonata hd )
and use with my earphones is 1more triple driver.
no comment for that, oh i just forgot that, 1 word - perfect :v
Just check audio tuner working with Bluetooth headset in my One Plus 6T
Mine isn't
They suppose to do it compatible in a future update..
Well you got OP wireless bullets headphone that why...
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Well you got OP wireless bullets headphone that why...
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I have them too but option is disabled.
I have them too but option is disabled.
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Same here.
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Same here.
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Even mine too help. Me if u guys have any idea abt audio tuning for wireless Bluetooth headphones I have One plus bullet wireless
Same here. Got bullet wireless but it's disabled
Check guys ..
You can also plug the type c earphones then connect the bt headset now open Audio tuner. It can now be enabled ?
It's now officially available with latest update.
Yes but I didn't notice any difference myself to be honest.
It definitely improves the sound
It has indeed a difference, maybe it needed a restart.
can someone provide me the current Audio_Tuner.apk for the onePlus 6? would like these as a backup
The update brought me audio tuner with Bluetooth but today it disappeared. Disappointed. And odd it just wasn't there suddenly. Anyone else that had access lose it?
On my Sennheiser Momentum Free dont work
I'm looking into getting the bullets wireless 2. What's everybody's thoughts on those? I know it's kind of the wrong thread but you were talking about getting dirac working. When the LG HBS 900 come out I bought them for like $200 and they fell apart in 8 months then I bought the tone infiniums the retractable LG's with the Harman kardon speakers and they might as well have been
A couple of family Dollar Bluetooth speakers at the bottom of the fish tank and they didn't even last year. I bought the beats wireless powerbeats 3 and then things last for 15 hours but my toggle switch for volume pause and play took a dump so I was going to give them to my wife. I plan on sticking with OnePlus, eventually upgrading to the seven here pretty soon. battery life is very important for me sound is also very important has anybody tried them on an airplane? I've got a pair of parrot Zik 2 over ear headphones but those don't go out with me everyday. I want something that's compatible with all the audio mods on my OnePlus like and viper. Sorry for the long string but I'm new to the OnePlus game someone recommends a better pair I'm all ears!