I bought device today, a and it's great including build quality. Only thing i don't like is volume rocker that is not firm as power button, it wobbles a bit up and down and sideways, like it's bit smaller than frame. But it works fine and have great tactile feedback, just don't like the rattle.
Anyone with similar issue, is it a defect or manufacturing tolerance?
Haven't noticed this at all. I guess if I really try to wobble it there is a very small amount, but I wouldn't have noticed without trying.
Ian
kirin432 said:
I bought device today, a and it's great including build quality. Only thing i don't like is volume rocker that is not firm as power button, it wobbles a bit up and down and sideways, like it's bit smaller than frame. But it works fine and have great tactile feedback, just don't like the rattle.
Anyone with similar issue, is it a defect or manufacturing tolerance?
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Mmh mine is wobbling too but I'm ok with it I mean it's normal...maybe yours is not ...I don't know if you can post a video or a link but would be great to see it
I think it's kinda normal, my friend has wobbly rocker too... I saw on YT that buttons are just clipped inside, like on Samsung devices, with "popping out" buttons.
You can see on 2:00 they are kinda removable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpcteaANktk
Mine seems smaller than outside frame, so it has space for some movement, but I guess it's just manufacturing imperfection, not defect, and even if you happen to have a problem with it, you just replace it yourself.
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Not sure if this happened before I dropped it at Christmas or not... BUT...
My volume button is sticking out at the bottom. So the end that lowers the volume. It's all good up the top. Any ideas how I can, or where to get this, fixed. I'm in Sydney.
I opened the battery compartment to have a look, but there is a void sticker over one of the screws. So don't wanna go there unless its a guarantee fix.
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Same problem here.. I can't find replacement part so I have ordered from ebay for shocking price for smallest piece is 19$ :S
thr r apps to control the volume in internal like mini info
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thr r apps to control the volume in internal like mini info
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i think you're totally missing the point. lol
anyway, can't you just push it in? give it a lil force until it snaps back into place. let me know what happens.
just noticed that I can increase volume on my DHD, but can't lower the volume. restarted it, thinking that it might be a sw bug, but it still doesn't work.
is this the issue you guys are experiencing?
hope it's easy to solve, since I'm in Brazil and bought the phone in Germany.
best regards
André
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just noticed that I can increase volume on my DHD, but can't lower the volume. restarted it, thinking that it might be a sw bug, but it still doesn't work.
is this the issue you guys are experiencing?
hope it's easy to solve, since I'm in Brazil and bought the phone in Germany.
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André
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André, i really don't think so...
I'm getting same trouble, the button works fine, but the down side (to decrease volume) is a little out, if compared with up side that stays closer to the frame, looks like a "seesaw"... i believe you got a hardware issue...
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I have same design issue. Upper part of button (volume up) is more inside the phone and volume down part sticks a bit out.
Still buttons work as they should.
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I don't exactly have same issue but close.
My volume rockers work, it's just they both are sunken to bottom and haven't that normal touch i've seen on other DHDs
Kindda nasty. Has anybody went to HTC to fix that? I'd love to know before sending... or not
yeah it seemed so for mine too.. but then i dotn have much problem with mine ..
Had a similar problem for me within first 14 days of my contract, just sent it back and got a replacement under warranty with orange. Maybe HTC or your carrier can do the same thing.
arielc said:
Had a similar problem for me within first 14 days of my contract, just sent it back and got a replacement under warranty with orange. Maybe HTC or your carrier can do the same thing.
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Thanks a lot, this is what I was looking for. I may send it sometime during exams (where I'll miss it less )
Got kind of the same problem, my volume down button is not nearly as responsive as my volume up button.
Got the same problem, my volume down button is not nearly as responsive as my volume up button.
OMG the bottom voice button is so weak..I am afraid of mine now...
my volume button popped out, doesn't sit flush and keep catching.
Added some glue to keep it held down, need to fit a replacement! Anyone know how to?
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I have same issue with volume key, seems quite a common problem, surely covered by factory warranty?
Fixed my volume button
I had the exact same problem with my volume rocker, the bottom part was sticking out but the top seemed all right.
I've just fixed it with a bit of glue and by only removing the battery lid.
For what it's worth, here's how I did it.
If you remove the battery lid you can gently pry out the loose end of the volume rocker, just a little so you can see what's supposed to hold it back.
There's a piece of plastic glued to the bottom of the volume rocker that's come partly undone.
I just put a toothpick between the case and the volume button, so it's sticking out.
Then I used another toothpick to get some superglue on the loose piece of plastic.
After that I removed the first toothpick and pressed down on the volume button for a bit.
Now it's all tight and snug like it used to be.
Be careful with the glue so you don't glue the rocker to the case or something.
Hey thanks if my breaks its gonna be useful!
Had this problem, bottom volume became almost completely unresponsive and has really been bugging me for a few months now, so today I took the whole aluminium volume rocker off, slightly different experience to the post above.
Basically it's constructed pretty poorly, the aluminium rocker forms a latch at the top which holds onto the body of the device above where the button is seated.
The bottom of the rocker then has a plastic flap which is glued into a hole to hold the rocker on, this flap had more or less come off for me, seems very poorly manufactured, so I pulled up more and the whole button came off.
The actual volume buttons themselves are very small and these are seated in the housing of the device between this latch at the top and the plastic flap at the bottom. The rocker has two pieces which push down on the buttons to operate them.
Some dirt and grime had built up in there so I scraped that all off first with the head of a Phillips size 00 screwdriver.
I put a very small balled piece of paper on top of the volume down button and it's now working fine again, I just need to glue that flap back down so the rocker doesn't come loose. If the piece of paper is too big the volume rocker won't go down at all so you have to get the size right, relieved to have a working volume button again though.
search the forum, someone wrote how he fixed his button using a bit of superglue. it works like a charm. basically the volume rocker is held onto the phone with a rubber base. with time the rocker comes unglued from the rubber base. if you use something thin, like a toothpick or a small cutting knife you can insert a very small amount of glue between the 2 and glue them back together. just don't overdo it with the glue or you'll end up gluing the rocker to the body! i did it on mine and now it's as good as new
I've had my Motorola Defy for ~3,5 months now and I'm happy with it exept some quality issues.
The battery seems to fit very bad and is wobbling when moving the phone quickly.
The volume buttons are also making sounds seems to be bad fitted as well.
It doesn't exactly scream quality over my unit, and my question is:
Is my Defy defect, and should be replaced? Or is this something they can get away with?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI7rEVuNbs4
No it's not defective. They all do that. I put a little piece of foam under the one corner of the battery to stop the wiggle. The volume rocker is just a plastic piece between the case and the actual buttons that are underneath. The real buttons are sealed for water resistance, so the plastic button that you press will wiggle a bit because it's not really attached to anything, but rather it floats there.
My battery wobbles about, fixxed it by jamming a slightly folded piece of paper between the chassis of the phone and the battery at the top near the camera.
My volume keys are also wobbly so to speak, but I havent found a fix.
Im not bothered about getting exchanged either, its too much hassle.
My battery doesn't wobble. My volume keys don't rattle. Today is 7/11 you should be lucky otherwise.
yeah, my battery wobbles too, and i too put a piece of paper between the battery and the case never had any problems with the volume rocker though...
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Thanks for your replies guys. It seems like this behaviour is standard on the Defy. Which is a shame. The quality feeling over it is completely blown away and makes me really sad to know what an excellent phone it could've been (Without having to McGuywer things).
Well, will have to think about returning it or not. I really want to have a non-wobbling phone when I've paid several hundred dollars for it.
Thanks again.
A little wobbling is okay, and sometimes desirable, you have to take into account the thermal expansion characteristics of different materials.
If everything fits "too well", it's more easy to break under extreme temperature.
Designing a key that has little to no wobble is very difficult if you consider that there are variations in every part that make up the design. There's the variation of the tactile switch under the key, variation in the placement of the switch itself on the circuit board, variation in the injection molded plastic housing, variation in the injection molded plastic key that you interact with on the housing.
If you were to design without considering all the possible combinations of the parts with different variations, you can end up with 2 scenarios
1. The keys are so tight that they actuate the tact switch permanently without you having to press on them.
2. The keys are so loose that even when you press down hard, they don't come in contact with the tact switches on the circuit board, and you don't have any function.
Functionality is always top priority. Wobbly keys are the side-effects of manufacturing variations, and we'll just have to live with them. Out of 1000 products, you may get 1 where every part seems to fall into the right combination, and you get the perfect fit. If so, you're damn lucky. On the other hand, you may also get 1 where every part seems to fall into the wrong combination to make a super wobbly key, but the design would have taken into account that it would remain functional. If so, you're unlucky, but it's not considered a defect because it still functions when you press it.
Got my m8 today really liking it. I be just noticed one issue my volume button is very loose, is that normal? I don't think it is but has anyone else noticed?
riz157 said:
Got my m8 today really liking it. I be just noticed one issue my volume button is very loose, is that normal? I don't think it is but has anyone else noticed?
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Mine is very secure. It don't feel loose.
Mine is pretty firm
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Mine wiggles a little, but it's not going anywhere.
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Mine feels a bit loose too. Only very slightly when holding the phone and accidentally touching it, but it's noticeable.
Thanks for replies. I'm thinking it's faulty mine is pretty loose it's probably not going to fall off but just don't like all the wiggling.
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Thanks for replies. I'm thinking it's faulty mine is pretty loose it's probably not going to fall off but just don't like all the wiggling.
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Mine has just the slightest wiggle side to side - but doesn't feel "faulty" per se. I can only even tell it wiggles by looking at it and pushing it to a side, otherwise I'd of never noticed.
mine is very very loose, annoyingly so
looks like it's falling out and makes a rattling noise when touched
receiving a replacement soon hopefully wont have the same fault
Not a fault, as someone mentioned earlier the volume rocker is made of metal like the body and so cannot have such a snug fit as if it were plastic. So learn to live with it guys!
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Not a fault, as someone mentioned earlier the volume rocker is made of metal like the body and so cannot have such a snug fit as if it were plastic. So learn to live with it guys!
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Why is that then? metal can be machined to very high tolernces, much tighter than plastic.
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Why is that then? metal can be machined to very high tolerances, much tighter than plastic.
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It's for this reason that there is a little play I believe. If I think about other machined parts such as on my Aprilia motorcycle there will be some kind of rubber bushing or shims to prevent play between the two machined parts. But with plastic such as my One X volume rocker, at first there was no play at all but after some time that changed and now it feels just as loose or wobbly as my new M8. I have the gel case on now so don't worry so much about the wobbly volume rocker :good:
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It's for this reason that there is a little play I believe. If I think about other machined parts such as on my Aprilia motorcycle there will be some kind of rubber bushing or shims to prevent play between the two machined parts. But with plastic such as my One X volume rocker, at first there was no play at all but after some time that changed and now it feels just as loose or wobbly as my new M8. I have the gel case on now so don't worry so much about the wobbly volume rocker :good:
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no really, it's a fault
if you tilt my handset it hangs out, it started doing it after using it for a while, feels like a spring came off/broke etc, looks like it's hanging on by a thread
it is not at all normal, there's no way it's meant to be like that
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no really, it's a fault
if you tilt my handset it hangs out, it started doing it after using it for a while, feels like a spring came off/broke etc, looks like it's hanging on by a thread
it is not at all normal, there's no way it's meant to be like that
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No doubt about it mate, a little play is acceptable but hanging out is definitely a fault. Hope you get it sorted.
new one has been delivered and it's a lot better, still slightly loose but not hanging out
actually now it's gone the same, it's ok with a case but without it feels awful
I'll keep this one but if it stops working I'll send it back
I am paying less than I was before upgrading so I can deal with it but anyone buying this sim free for a large amount of cash, would be disappointed with the quality of the volume rocker
Can someone with a ticket that looks like it's about to fall off, post a picture of it, I'm interested in hire it looks?
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im interested in this as well.
I bought my phone last night. noticed it this morning that the volume rocker is a bit loose. it doesn't hang out or anything but it can move up and down (towards the front screen and back).
most annoying thing is when moving the phone around, you can hear the loose volume rocker.
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Confirmed this is definitely an issue.
Bought one today and it was quite loose. Went back to the store and checked the display model and it was the same.
Gent there opened up a new one and it was less loose so I took it for the moment but it seems to be getting more loose as I use it. Probably going to return again, but how many times before I get one that is correct and how do I know it will not develop the looseness...
edit: If you shake with any force it it actually rattles!
I've had the free case on it for most of the day and I haven't noticed the loose rocker
anyone planning to use a case will be fine, without one it would annoy me massively, especially the noise when tilting the phone..I don't think it's going to actually fall out though
my handsets are both from o2, both same issue so I don't see much point in sending it back again, I will contact them and see if they have had many returned
I seriously doubt it's meant to be this loose
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this review actually mentions it rattling around horribly..perhaps this is why they give you a case in the box..would be good to know for sure to save people replacing the phone over and over again
The one sore point in the build quality is with the thin volume rocker, which rattles around horribly. It’s a particular shame seeing as the rocker can also double up as the camera shutter.
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2014/03/htc-one-m8-review-a-one-two-knockout-punch/
[QUOTED=lmw85;51600717]mine is very very loose, annoyingly so
looks like it's falling out and makes a rattling noise when touched
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Did you have to ship back first to get a replacement? Mine is super flimsy, but I'm lazy to have to swap back to a micro sim if I have to ship back first. I can hear the key move when I move the phone, even makes a noise when the phone vibrates.
It has been a month using my Lenovo P2 and from the first day itself the power button on my device is wobbly. It feels firm when pressing the power button but feels loose while swiping finger over it. Also the sound 'tick' when pressing the button is a bit louder than any ordinary power button.
Is it the same with your device??
Should i repair it with lenovo service centre??(heard people telling that they dont handle phone properly and a new problem arises)
I wanted to know,is this a problem of each unit or only my unit has this defect.
Yes same with mine. It's kinda strange the power/volume buttons are loose when the rest of the build quality is superb. And the loud button press sound is a bit annoying, but I got used to it I guess.
Mines fine
I sometimes feels that lenovo itself loosens the button by fitting such a tight case out of the box.
i returned my p2 because of an screen issue, however i also had a somewhat wobbly home button. from the very first use 4/5 times it felt like a little loose or worn... so it's either very subjective feeling or their home button / quality control is ****.
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i returned my p2 because of an screen issue, however i also had a somewhat wobbly home button. from the very first use 4/5 times it felt like a little loose or worn... so it's either very subjective feeling or their home button / quality control is ****.
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P2's build quality is not up to the mark,along with the loose buttons the screen is also stretched at the edges and it nowhere looks like 2.5D curve glass
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P2's build quality is not up to the mark,along with the loose buttons the screen is also stretched at the edges and it nowhere looks like 2.5D curve glass
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guess you get what you pay for. sounds about right
endrancer said:
guess you get what you pay for sounds about right
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Oops,this sentence was a bouncer,dint get its meaning. Hope u use punctuations in future
Is anyone else experiencing issues with the power button on their 2XL?
I have the Black & White version and the orange power button seems to be protruding less and less from the main frame, making it difficult to press.
It's still quite "clicky" but in comparison to the volume rocker it's much more be recessed.
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Is anyone else experiencing issues with the power button on their 2XL?
I have the Black & White version and the orange power button seems to be protruding less and less from the main frame, making it difficult to press.
It's still quite "clicky" but in comparison to the volume rocker it's much more be recessed.
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I've noticed that. It seems to fit a little more flush with the frame. not a deal breaker for me. I've got a decent screen... Can't risk a replacement lol
Mine still seems fine, been kept in a Ringke case since new so possibly doesn't get pushed in as far as a naked button.
I've had it in the Google fabric case since I got it which also covers the buttons. I think it also may have something to do with that...the fabric case button is much bigger and pops out more...and now that I've taken the case off, the actual power button feels less prominent.
I rarely use the button.
So, I activate the phone using finger print and turn the screen off using "screen off" app
gogol said:
I rarely use the button.
So, I activate the phone using finger print and turn the screen off using "screen off" app
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Ah good shout. I've just activated a similar feature in Nova Launcher. Thanks for the tip.
Yes, same here. Orange button seems slightly recessed.
My dad just got his Pixel, and I have had mine for over 2 months. Both power buttons are identical. Protruding slightly less than the volume rocker. It's definitely not getting worse over time.
I've thought the same thing on the ones i've had but this was the 3rd one i've had and all have been the same spot. Has never failed me yet though had it since launch