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I heard about wrong quality USB C cables which can damage the phone but what if I use original HTC 10 cable with old powerbank?
Is it safety?
You'll be fine.
Used it today for the first time and it worked just fine.
Should work fine wall/car charger and third party cables are the problem. Tested some of them and met heat issues. The only one working flawless and without any issue, since I received them, are from Aukey. Just in case you want to order some more cables.
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That's complete nonsense, don't listen to sites like Android Central/Phandroid. They clearly don't understand how things work in that regard, so don't worry. I've used many of my USB A-C cables that are compliant from my Nexus 6P via a power bank (4 different ones actually), QC 2.0/3.0 and type-c chargers with 0 issues. Just don't buy a cheap no name charger and cable just like with any phone.
Here's a brief list of the brands of cables/chargers that work fine based on what I've personally used:
Choetech C-C/A-C/QC2.0/3.0/powerbank
Tronsmart C-C/A-C/QC2.0/3.0
EasyACC Powerbank/QC2.0
Incipio Car charger QC 2.0
Samsung QC2.0 wall charger
Google Type-C wall charger
I-Orange A-C/C-C cable
Anker Wall charger
Cable Matters C-C cable
Aukey QC2.0 powerbank
I've used the Anker 10000 mAh QC 3.0 Power Bank with no issues. Charges very fast and reports "Charging Rapidly". I also use the Anker Power Line USB-C to USB 3.0 cable with it.
I have an Anker 13000mAh power bank and I've used both the Anker and HTC type C cables and it seems to charge only when the screen is on. One the screen goes off the charging light goes off, then the screen will turn back on and start charging like I just plugged the charger in. It will do this over and over. I've had no issues with my older Nokia and the stock HTC wall chargers
i have xiaomi power bank which is have different volts with original wall charger volts , does it effect on my phone battery ? its ok if i charge it with this power bank?
Jwtiyar said:
i have xiaomi power bank which is have different volts with original wall charger volts , does it effect on my phone battery ? its ok if i charge it with this power bank?
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I also use a powerbank having different voltage :
2.1 v and 2.4 v
Both are working fine and the 2.4v port is quicker
Do you have any recommendation for car charger (cigarette lighter plug)?
One with fast charger feature which is compatible with Google Pixel 2 (USB-C PD?).
For my old Nexus 6, I must use car charger with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0, because otherwise the Nexus 6 will still loosing power when using car navigation software. Standard car charger cannot keep up with the battery drain.
Thanks.
I came from a Nexus 6 too. I ended up buying micro USB to usb-c mini adapters which just go on the end of my old USB leads. I threw one on the car charger and it works fine. It's a stop Gap measure, and I mainly got it for an ihome Android charger/radio, but ended up wrapping duct tape around a usb-c charger cable and putting it in the radio dock.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/ya/r...reorder_params=B01J3GG82U,112-8020237-8121850
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I use the Aukey QC 3.0 car charger with dual 3.0 USB ports. It does not register as rapid charging but it is very quick. I used it with Moto Z Droid and used Google navigation while charging and it charges quick and does not lose charge. I also use the Aukey 3.0 wall charger and that does register as rapid charging.
I just bought a Deltaco (a Scandinavian brand) 3A/5V 15W car charger for 6,5 USD. Can't feel much difference compared to the original home charger's 18W using a 2. Gen Goobay 60W USB C-C cable.
Phone registers the input as rapid charging.
Ampere registers 2.7A with the screen on. Same as the standard charger, so I didn't find any reason why it should be worse
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I bought the Nekteck 5.4 amp charger https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH9NEM2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. The curly cord is hard wired and side mounted with a USB C plug on the end, it charges my Pixel 2 fast (charging rapidly). I had issues with other chargers and cables that wouldn't charge my Pixel 2 at full speed, this one works great. Also, it has a USB A port on the top so you can rapidly charge two devices at the same time.
The Verizon branded one works really great. Charges very fast.
Any update on these?
I'm going to buy this USB-C with Power Delivery charger from Aukey:
https://www.aukey.com/products/usb-c-dual-port-car-charger-with-power-delivery
Will report back with results.
I use the tronsmart car charger.. It charges the phone rapidly.. Made a short video on it:
I have a Verizon USB C (purchased from Amazon for $17) and it works great. It fits very tight and shows up as fast charging.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0711FG2TB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_sLsxpduAP1r1H
PuffDaddy_d said:
I'm going to buy this USB-C with Power Delivery charger from Aukey:
https://www.aukey.com/products/usb-c-dual-port-car-charger-with-power-delivery
Will report back with results.
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Well, I waited too long and it is out of stock, but it looks like I may have avoided a bad purchase according to this supposed Google Engineer's review:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/B01LGO9LE4/R3J0UNYEXFSH0X/ref=cm_cr_dp_mb_rvw_1?ie=UTF8&cursor=1
Any other power delivery compatible options?
I think the hard wired C cabled chargers are the safest bet because of all the dicey 3rd party C cables out there.
I just got the $10 Monoprice USB C charger with PD (9v 3A) because it is rated to charge the at least as fast as the in-box wall charger. Not shilling for Monoprice, just seemed like a better deal than all the sketchy chargers on Amazon with fake reviews, none of which offered anything but 5v 3A or worse at under $25. I figure it's trustworthy because they say it's certified and Benson tested their cables and said they were OK. So far it has not tried to burn my car down or nuke my phone. I'm using it with the 0.5m Monoprice cable, it was about $17 with tax for the bundle. I can't post links, search 24424 on Monoprice.
So I've been googling around and trying to research this as much as I could but I'm still not sure of the answer so I was wondering if I could get some answers here. By the way, apologies if my terminology about the different connections are incorrect at any point in my post.
So I originally bought this Aukey car charger with Qualcomm 3.0 quickcharge (LINK) with 2 outlets for a USB Type-A connection to be plugged into it to charge 2 devices. I originally used it for my old phone that used a Micro-USB connection. After I got my Pixel 2, I needed new cables with its USB-C connection. I went and got these Anker USB-A to USB-C cables (LINK) so that I could charge with these cables or to connect my phone to my PC. Now, I've read that older Anker USB-C cables have had issues but from doing some more reading that these have been fixed I believe.
I am planning on using the Aukey charger mentioned above, and then plugging in one of the Anker USB-A to USB-C to charge my phone and was wondering if it'll be a safe combination? From some googling around and research, it seems it won't charge as fast as the wall charger (which is amazingly fast btw) or a USB-PD connection but that's perfectly fine as I don't need it to be as quick. I'm just cautious because I've read about the potential issues with using a bad charger with a not-up-to-standard cable (like something that isn't necessarily verified by Benson Leung or something). I don't care/need USB-PD charging (which I assume is where it uses a dedicated USB-C cable coming from the charger or a separate USB-C to USB-C cable connecting the cable to charger), as long as the combination I just mentioned works.
Toronadian said:
So I've been googling around and trying to research this as much as I could but I'm still not sure of the answer so I was wondering if I could get some answers here. By the way, apologies if my terminology about the different connections are incorrect at any point in my post.
So I originally bought this Aukey car charger with Qualcomm 3.0 quickcharge (LINK) with 2 outlets for a USB Type-A connection to be plugged into it to charge 2 devices. I originally used it for my old phone that used a Micro-USB connection. After I got my Pixel 2, I needed new cables with its USB-C connection. I went and got these Anker USB-A to USB-C cables (LINK) so that I could charge with these cables or to connect my phone to my PC. Now, I've read that older Anker USB-C cables have had issues but from doing some more reading that these have been fixed I believe.
I am planning on using the Aukey charger mentioned above, and then plugging in one of the Anker USB-A to USB-C to charge my phone and was wondering if it'll be a safe combination? From some googling around and research, it seems it won't charge as fast as the wall charger (which is amazingly fast btw) or a USB-PD connection but that's perfectly fine as I don't need it to be as quick. I'm just cautious because I've read about the potential issues with using a bad charger with a not-up-to-standard cable (like something that isn't necessarily verified by Benson Leung or something). I don't care/need USB-PD charging (which I assume is where it uses a dedicated USB-C cable coming from the charger or a separate USB-C to USB-C cable connecting the cable to charger), as long as the combination I just mentioned works.
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It will charge your phone just fine, but as you said, it will not fast charge. I use a similar setup now as I continue to look for the right PD car charger.
Toronadian said:
So I've been googling around and trying to research this as much as I could but I'm still not sure of the answer so I was wondering if I could get some answers here. By the way, apologies if my terminology about the different connections are incorrect at any point in my post.
So I originally bought this Aukey car charger with Qualcomm 3.0 quickcharge (...)
I am planning on using the Aukey charger mentioned above, and then plugging in one of the Anker USB-A to USB-C to charge my phone and was wondering if it'll be a safe combination? From some googling around and research, it seems it won't charge as fast as the wall charger (which is amazingly fast btw) or a USB-PD connection but that's perfectly fine as I don't need it to be as quick. I'm just cautious because I've read about the potential issues with using a bad charger with a not-up-to-standard cable (like something that isn't necessarily verified by Benson Leung or something). I don't care/need USB-PD charging (which I assume is where it uses a dedicated USB-C cable coming from the charger or a separate USB-C to USB-C cable connecting the cable to charger), as long as the combination I just mentioned works.
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PuffDaddy_d said:
It will charge your phone just fine, but as you said, it will not fast charge. I use a similar setup now as I continue to look for the right PD car charger.
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You guys should both look at 24424 on Monoprice. That QC charger isn't going to fast charge no matter what, I used one with a Tronsmart branded USB C to Micro B adapter that Benson recommended no problems though. They have a cheaper non-PD charger too, but why bother?
fishlifters said:
You guys should both look at 24424 on Monoprice. That QC charger isn't going to fast charge no matter what, I used one with a Tronsmart branded USB C to Micro B adapter that Benson recommended no problems though. They have a cheaper non-PD charger too, but why bother?
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I'm sorry, I don't understand. If we already have charger that aren't PD compliant then why do you recommend buying another?
I plan to get this one since it had strong reviews and tests:
GearMo 75W QC 3.0 & USB Type C Power Delivery (PD) Car Charger works with: MacPro,Chromebook,Galaxy s8 s7 Edge Plus,Note 8,LG G6 G5 V20 V30,HTC 10,a9,8,Pixel 2 XL,Nexus,iPhone 7,iPad. FCC Approved https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07115BLPP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_bSiBAb2H2P7W0
PuffDaddy_d said:
I'm sorry, I don't understand. If we already have charger that aren't PD compliant then why do you recommend buying another?
I plan to get this one since it had strong reviews and tests:
GearMo 75W QC 3.0 & USB Type C Power Delivery (PD) Car Charger works with: MacPro,Chromebook,Galaxy s8 s7 Edge Plus,Note 8,LG G6 G5 V20 V30,HTC 10,a9,8,Pixel 2 XL,Nexus,iPhone 7,iPad. FCC Approved
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A USB C charger 5v 3W standard will still charge faster than a USB A QC charger, but it's only $3 less on Monoprice for the non-PD one. I don't see anything on usb DOT org listing GearMo on the certified power brick chart. I wouldn't risk it. There's no reason to put a USB 3.0 A-type port on a charger, seems fishy to me.
This one looks promising as well:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07234DKQ5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_D0lIAb2M0BDZG
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I'm using this Meagoes charger from Amazon. Works well.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076H7X8QN
I bought from Aliexpress about 15 charging cables for me and 2 of my friends ... all of us have S8+ phones
The cable's description shows 5V 5A cables for Huawei Mate 9 10 P10.
The issue is these cables are not FAST charging our phones as needed.
Are there any requirements for the fast charging cable other than the current rating?
My understanding is the Adaptive Fast Charging uses 9V 2A (18w) while the cables are rated 5V 5A (25w) which means the cable bought should be superior to what is needed.
Does anyone have any explanation why these cables are not charging fast charging (Adaptive Fast Charging)?
Yes, they went bad. I buy cables from five below, and usually the type c 6ft works out of box. Then if you drop the cable so many times or do something, it stops fast charging. Now sometimes it doesnt work out of the box. Idk the construction behined the fast charge cable but the oringal samsung and more expensive dont seem to have this issue
My Google Pixel or ASUS chromebook chargers don't seem to work unless the pda is off. I'm disappointed that this device didn't implement USB-PD and that I can't charge from either side. What's the point of a standard connector if you need a proprietary power brick. MediaTek Pump Express was a poor choice.
I agree. So plugging into your charger when the Gemini is off WILL charge it?
I have a USB-C charger in my truck, and I will say that when my Gemini is plugged in it will hold the charge at whatever level it's at. It won't charge it, but at least power won't be depleted. Still disappointing, for sure.
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I agree. So plugging into your charger when the Gemini is off WILL charge it?
I have a USB-C charger in my truck, and I will say that when my Gemini is plugged in it will hold the charge at whatever level it's at. It won't charge it, but at least power won't be depleted. Still disappointing, for sure.
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Yes, if my Gemini PDA is off-off, my Google Pixel USB charger does seem to charge it. I don't have any numbers, but I doubt it's using the higher voltage modes so it's probably a slow charge. The red charging light comes on after maybe a second. Same poor behavior using an Anker PowerCore+ 26800 USB-PD with J5 Create JUCX01 USB-C to USB-C cables (an expensive but highly regarded cable supporting 100W power delivery AND 10 Gbps transfers). My car's AOLIEKS 48W USB-C USB-PD cigarette lighter port adapter is also useless for the gemini PDA when using the 30 W USB-PD port with a JUCX01 cable. I'll try using the QC 3.0 USB-A port with Gemini-provided USB cable tonight.
None of my standard USB-C chargers seem to do anything at all when the Gemini PDA is on. As though the cable isn't even detected. This indicates a firmware issue in the charge controller, IMHO. I looked closely at the Gemini-provided USB cables and the USB-C plug seems maybe 0.5mm longer than my other USB-C cables, so maybe it's a physical thing but I doubt it.
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Yes, if my Gemini PDA is off-off, my Google Pixel USB charger does seem to charge it. I don't have any numbers, but I doubt it's using the higher voltage modes so it's probably a slow charge. The red charging light comes on after maybe a second. Same poor behavior using an Anker PowerCore+ 26800 USB-PD with J5 Create JUCX01 USB-C to USB-C cables (an expensive but highly regarded cable supporting 100W power delivery AND 10 Gbps transfers). My car's AOLIEKS 48W USB-C USB-PD cigarette lighter port adapter is also useless for the gemini PDA when using the 30 W USB-PD port with a JUCX01 cable. I'll try using the QC 3.0 USB-A port with Gemini-provided USB cable tonight.
None of my standard USB-C chargers seem to do anything at all when the Gemini PDA is on. As though the cable isn't even detected. This indicates a firmware issue in the charge controller, IMHO. I looked closely at the Gemini-provided USB cables and the USB-C plug seems maybe 0.5mm longer than my other USB-C cables, so maybe it's a physical thing but I doubt it.
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I was adding a 6-outlet wall tap to the outlet near my bedside table today, and while consolidating chargers I plugged the Gemini's USB-C cable into the AUKEY 12W Dual Port Home Travel USB Wall Charger Adapter - Black charger I have. It charges the Gemini, whether it's on or off. Not sure about voltages or numbers either, but the Battery page in settings showed "Charging by AC" and the time remaining seemed pretty short.
There does seem to be some magic sauce with the included USB cable. Using that cable worked fine with my power bank, but not my car charger.
I've done some testing using a Pluggable USB-C meter (can't post links due to being new, it's on amazon).
Charging is only on the left port. (More on that later.)
Using the supplied charger + cable I get 8.8v at 1.35A (close to the 9v the charger has printed on the back, charger says it supports 12v according to the back but I guess the Gemini doesn't).
Using an Anker PowerPort+ (60w, one type-c and USB A ports) I get:
- Anker USB A to C cable: 5v (well, 4.78v), 1.8A
- Anker USB-C to C cable: Nothing. :/ (the pluggable adapter doesn't even turn on, presumably not seeing any negotiation to even turn on).
Also tried a few other USB C cables and power supplies (Apple, Chromebook) and they don't charge it or pass power.
While the left port is the only one that will charge, the Gemini will take power on the right hand port -- the amount varying by usage it seems (I've seen between 0.15A and 0.41A when worked hard), so presumably it is possible to take power from a hub which should mean the device stays alive for longer but won't charge.
I hope it's possible to add proper PD / type C charging in a software update, for me a huge advantage of type C is not needing to have different adapters for fast charging... (I'm a little confused because pump express claims to support USB PD on mediatek. c o m / features/pump-express (sorry mangled url because I can't post them...), not sure what that means in non-marketing speak as it obviously doesn't work).
Forgot to test with it turned entirely off:
- It does charge off the Anker USB-C charger via C-to-C cable, but only at 4.96v, 0.38A, i.e. you're going to be waiting a while for a charge. Makes me hopeful this is a software thing though.
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psionfan said:
It does charge off the Anker USB-C charger via C-to-C cable, but only at 4.96v, 0.38A, i.e. you're going to be waiting a while for a charge.
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...which does lead to an interesting trick:
Turn it off, plug it to the type C charger, then it will continue charging at a low rate while on. Could be useful if you forget the right charger (which is totally something I see myself doing).
USB-C charging is a compatibility mess, and yes, it seems Gemini PDA is on the bad end of it. I have various
But I had an LG phone that couldn't reliably charge from a MacBook Pro USB-C power supply--and it seems that charger can't charge my Gemini at all. Two rather mainstream companies that can't manage to implement a standard and make it work right, Gemini can't make it work at all, isn't unique in having problems, but clearly on the bad end...
Sounds like the USB-C standard is badly designed.
-kb
Hi all, I'm hoping that someone much smarter here can help me. **My phone is at 50% battery while conducting these tests. I've tried 4 different usb cables and 4 different vehicles and 4 different usb car plugs (1amp, 3amp 2.5amp 30w) my P6P only charges at 800ma but fluctuates wildly from 40ma to 400ma to 250ma to 800ma. I have turned off adaptive battery and the such. no joy. I don't recall this issue with A12. I'd really prefer to not have to factory reset...but......
PS I have no issues with same cables attached to my wall charge station, which charges 5 devices @1.5amp each. My P6P shows a steady 1500ma.
You aren't fast charging unless you have a PPS or PD charger with a Type-C cable. Doesn't matter which DC port or cable you use. Your car's USB ports are not fast.
VELOGK Super Fast Type C Car Charger [73W Turbo], Metal Adaptive 55W 45W PPS/PD&QC3.0 USB C Car Adapter[Super Fast Charging 2.0]for Samsung S22/S21/S20 Ultra/Note 20/10 Plus,iPad Pro/Air,Macbook,Pixel https://a.co/d/glhc0OY
LLStarks said:
You aren't fast charging unless you have a PPS or PD charger with a Type-C cable. Doesn't matter which DC port or cable you use. Your car's USB ports are not fast.
VELOGK Super Fast Type C Car Charger [73W Turbo], Metal Adaptive 55W 45W PPS/PD&QC3.0 USB C Car Adapter[Super Fast Charging 2.0]for Samsung S22/S21/S20 Ultra/Note 20/10 Plus,iPad Pro/Air,Macbook,Pixel https://a.co/d/glhc0OY
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I'm not talking about fast charging. I just need to get the 1.5amps I was getting before with the same setup as I was getting on A12 This is the charger I just bought hoping it would fix the sub 1amp charge rate I'm getting, Without getting 1 amp rate, my phone looses power while driving and using maps and such apps. This was not an issue with A12
Amps don't matter when you're still stuck at 5V.
It should work though. No point in buying a charger with only USB-A.
I had this issue Android 13 until Sept update even with USBC PD PPS 65W charger, phone was draining using maps. now no.
Also I do not believe that Pixel phone supports QC for quick charge so you might be lucky to get 1amp charging from USB A