I bought from Aliexpress about 15 charging cables for me and 2 of my friends ... all of us have S8+ phones
The cable's description shows 5V 5A cables for Huawei Mate 9 10 P10.
The issue is these cables are not FAST charging our phones as needed.
Are there any requirements for the fast charging cable other than the current rating?
My understanding is the Adaptive Fast Charging uses 9V 2A (18w) while the cables are rated 5V 5A (25w) which means the cable bought should be superior to what is needed.
Does anyone have any explanation why these cables are not charging fast charging (Adaptive Fast Charging)?
Yes, they went bad. I buy cables from five below, and usually the type c 6ft works out of box. Then if you drop the cable so many times or do something, it stops fast charging. Now sometimes it doesnt work out of the box. Idk the construction behined the fast charge cable but the oringal samsung and more expensive dont seem to have this issue
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I bought an OEM Samsung wall charger that charges at 1 Ampere. I started to charge my Zerolemon battery with it yesterday at about 6pm and here it is today and it is only at about 80% charge rate. Something is not right. I contacted the seller and they told me that the charger is from Samsung and it charges at 1 Ampere. It is either the charger is a knock off or my Micro-usb cable that connects into the wall charger is not the right kind.
Are there different variations of micro-usb cables that will work better? Some that allow more current to flow over them than others? My cable says that it is 28awg/2C. I remember when I had a playstation 3 I had problems with syncing the device with my playstation 3 with the USB cables I had bought. After tons of research it was the USB cables that were the issue. They didn't allow enough current to work properly with the PS3. I'm starting to wonder if I'm having the same issue with the Samsung Wall Charger. Is the 28awg wire gauge too thin?
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I bought an OEM Samsung wall charger that charges at 1 Ampere. I started to charge my Zerolemon battery with it yesterday at about 6pm and here it is today and it is only at about 80% charge rate. Something is not right. I contacted the seller and they told me that the charger is from Samsung and it charges at 1 Ampere. It is either the charger is a knock off or my Micro-usb cable that connects into the wall charger is not the right kind.
Are there different variations of micro-usb cables that will work better? Some that allow more current to flow over them than others? My cable says that it is 28awg/2C. I remember when I had a playstation 3 I had problems with syncing the device with my playstation 3 with the USB cables I had bought. After tons of research it was the USB cables that were the issue. They didn't allow enough current to work properly with the PS3. I'm starting to wonder if I'm having the same issue with the Samsung Wall Charger. Is the 28awg wire gauge too thin?
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- charger is rated 1amp but usually puts out less depending on the quality and efficiency of it. You won't get the fastest charge with a 1amp psu. Get yourself a cheap 2amp and have plenty of headroom.
- also, if voltage in your wall outlet is low (rare) that would affect psu output.
- yes super thin usb cables can be part of the cause.
- of course, if the cable is meant for PC charging, it will be wired in such a way, to not exceed 450ma (or so) whereas a usb cable or charger that is meant and wired for fast charge, will provide...for me...1150ma (Search/Research my past posts for more detailed info)
- also, most kernels, slow down the charge rate as the batter gets closer to 100% charge.
- a bad battery or custom kernel with bad code, could both affect charging speed.
Hey guys !
I just bought an Galaxy Tab S (8.4) from eBay but it came without any charger/cable.
As it is a Micro USB port, there's no real problem, I have literally tons of usb chargers available.
The problem is that most the chargers/cable I used only charged the battery at a 0.3A rate (measured with an USB voltmeter + battery app).
I know that the original charger was 5.3v 2A. I tried with some powerful 5.0v charger (3.0A/Quickcharger 3.0 compatible from Anker) but no luck so far...
Is there a specific charger/specs know to work well with this pad ?
I'm using this aukey 3.0 compatible wall charger and so far it's charging as expected
How fast does it charge ? I only get 0.3A with this charger, which charges really slow...
0.3A is 300ma i am surprised the battery charges at all at that low rate, My 10.5" draws 1700ma from my third-party chargers according to my usb monitor, I have managed to charge it as low as 1000ma from my notebooks usb port, but you need a charge only cable as a data cable will not charge at all.
John.
Hey!
I noticed recently that my G5 charges quite slow. So I tested all of my powerbanks, cables, and wall chargers, in various combinations. I had 4 different powerbanks, 3 wall chargers, and 4 cables.
I used a USB ammeter to measure the power draw going through the USB cable.
On the motorola charger and cable that came with the phone, it charges at 1.8a. I then charged my phone from each powerbank and wall charger, using each cable in turn. The average charge speed for my phone was about 0.5a. Out of 28 combinations, only 2 yielded a draw over 1a.
I have created a spreadsheet detailing the charge speeds of each combination, but unfortunately cannot post it yet (10 post permissions).
I then charged my USB powerbanks from the same wall chargers, using the same cables. One powerbank charged at over 1a with every combination, and reached over 2a on numerous combinations. This proves that the cables and wall chargers are not at fault, it is a phone issue.
Why? Has motorola put something in their chargers that 'talks' to the phone, and allows for faster charge speeds? 0.5a is awful!
Secondly, does anyone know of cables that I can buy, which will support fast charging for the motorola? I have looked at genuine motorola cables, but there is no way to tell one from the other.
Thanks!
Paul
P.s. charge speeds were the same, whether the phone was switched on or off.
Welcome @agour
I've come up to a similar conclusion with a lot less data (thus I didn't share them).
I caught power consumption at the wall outlet when charging my device with two chargers: Motorola stock charger and a Samsung Adaptive Fast Charger.
The Samsung has the following specs: 5V 2A or 9V 1.67A with fastcharging capable device.
Using Samsung Adaptive fast charger and Samsung 1.5m cable : 6W, so the device charges at something like 5V 1.2A...
Using Samsung Adaptive fast charger and the cable provided with my XT1676 : 11.3W (which is coherent with the max 9V 1.6A, and would mean the charger provides 2.2A if at 5V which more than the specs.)
Using stock charger and stock supplied cable : 11.3W ==> fast charge for similar reasons as above
Using stock charger and Samsung 1.5m cable : around 6W ==> low power charge
I'd need a USB multimeter to confirm those data. (mostly due to the variable voltage that can provide fast charge adatpers)
matmutant said:
Welcome @agour
I've come up to a similar conclusion with a lot less data (thus I didn't share them).
I caught power consumption at the wall outlet when charging my device with two chargers: Motorola stock charger and a Samsung Adaptive Fast Charger.
The Samsung has the following specs: 5V 2A or 9V 1.67A with fastcharging capable device.
Using Samsung Adaptive fast charger and Samsung 1.5m cable : 6W, so the device charges at something like 5V 1.2A...
Using Samsung Adaptive fast charger and the cable provided with my XT1676 : 11.3W (which is coherent with the max 9V 1.6A, and would mean the charger provides 2.2A if at 5V which more than the specs.)
Using stock charger and stock supplied cable : 11.3W ==> fast charge for similar reasons as above
Using stock charger and Samsung 1.5m cable : around 6W ==> low power charge
I'd need a USB multimeter to confirm those data. (mostly due to the variable voltage that can provide fast charge adatpers)
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Interesting! It's suprising how much difference the combinations can make.
I don't think I have experienced this on a phone before, however I have never felt the need to test it...
I tested the original cable that came with the phone, and an off the shelf 'genuine motorola cable'. The stock cable is still the fastest, however the secondary cable still worked very well.
Interestingly, one of my powerbanks will charge at 2.2a from pretty much EVERY powersource and cable combination. This is with 7 cables tested, and 3 USB wall adapters.
Shame that motorola doesn't allow their phones to draw maximum power from hardware that can provide it..
agour said:
Interesting! It's suprising how much difference the combinations can make.
I don't think I have experienced this on a phone before, however I have never felt the need to test it...
I tested the original cable that came with the phone, and an off the shelf 'genuine motorola cable'. The stock cable is still the fastest, however the secondary cable still worked very well.
Interestingly, one of my powerbanks will charge at 2.2a from pretty much EVERY powersource and cable combination. This is with 7 cables tested, and 3 USB wall adapters.
Shame that motorola doesn't allow their phones to draw maximum power from hardware that can provide it..
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If I have some time, I may test internal impedance of the cables, it is possible that the device somehow probes the cable (or the cable + charger) and then decides if it can or not draw that much power without overheating/melting the cable; and then it will negotiate the quickCharge with the charger.
there has been a discussion about quick charge on this thread a while ago (before I got this devices : https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/help/quick-charge-3-0-support-t3632457)
Lenovo adds the following that I have not tested:
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If your device is below 78%, but it does not begin Turbo charging when you plug it into the Turbo Charger, try uplugging and plugging back in using one fluid motion.
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It is quite obvious that especially cheap cables will charge phones much slower as the resistance is too high, even if the phone does not perform any checks. Those cables are basically too thin. Resistance limits the current (amps) that can flow. Newer phones most likely just look at the charge current during the first x seconds (or less) and then decide wether to enable fast charging or not to keep the cable from heating up. A wire with high resistance is basically a heater. So it's a necessary safety feature (from the companies POV).
Regarding the power bank, it may be possible that this particular design provides a voltage slightly higher than the nominal 5 volts (still fine for most devices), which helps overcome the resistance. That is also the reason why the Samsung fast charger provides 9V: You don't need a cable as thick as with 5V.
Keep in mind that the USB specifications only recently got updated for such high charging currents, so it is advisable to use only the cable that comes with the phone as USB cables in general don't need to provide such high currents by spec!
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It is quite obvious that especially cheap cables will charge phones much slower as the resistance is too high, even if the phone does not perform any checks. Those cables are basically too thin.
Resistance limits the current (amps) that can flow. Newer phones most likely just look at the charge current during the first x seconds (or less) and then decide wether to enable fast charging or not to keep the cable from heating up. A wire with high resistance is basically a heater. So it's a necessary safety feature (from the companies POV).
Regarding the power bank, it may be possible that this particular design provides a voltage slightly higher than the nominal 5 volts (still fine for most devices), which helps overcome the resistance. That is also the reason why the Samsung fast charger provides 9V: You don't need a cable as thick as with 5V.
Keep in mind that the USB specifications only recently got updated for such high charging currents, so it is advisable to use only the cable that comes with the phone as USB cables in general don't need to provide such high currents by spec!
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That sounds correct, although my Samsung wall adapter is fast charge capable, and was provided with a cable (and not a cheap one), that basically can't be use for fast charging with the G5, that looks silly...
Hello
I remember having some problems with my ex 7 Pro and 1 or 2 usb cable not letting Dash charging with the stock charger or data transfer with PC.
Does the 9 Pro also has compatibility problems with non OP cables?
I never had any problems with cables from other manufacturers
Regardless of what phone you have and try to use fast charging, the only important thing is that you buy a USB-Type C cable that is compatible with chargings up to 100W (PD, Power delivery). They're usually rated as 100w, or 20V, and 5A. All these cables will charge just fine at the rated speed of your charger/phone.
So, it's not the phone magically denying non-OP cables, but rather the cables are just not rated for higher power draw.
There are plenty of Type-C cables out there with the majority of them supporting charging up to 100W. It become more of a "consumer" level since many devices support now fast-charging methods above 20-30W and many laptops or tablets use Type-C (including Ipads) and support fast charging (PD).
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Regardless of what phone you have and try to use fast charging, the only important thing is that you buy a USB-Type C cable that is compatible with chargings up to 100W (PD, Power delivery). They're usually rated as 100w, or 20V, and 5A. All these cables will charge just fine at the rated speed of your charger/phone.
So, it's not the phone magically denying non-OP cables, but rather the cables are just not rated for higher power draw.
There are plenty of Type-C cables out there with the majority of them supporting charging up to 100W. It become more of a "consumer" level since many devices support now fast-charging methods above 20-30W and many laptops or tablets use Type-C (including Ipads) and support fast charging (PD).
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Will it say "Warp charge" on your 9 Pro of not from OP? I saw many negative comments on amazon about supposedly 100w usb c cables not compatible with Warp
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Will it say "Warp charge" on your 9 Pro of not from OP? I saw many negative comments on amazon about supposedly 100w usb c cables not compatible with Warp
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If the cable is REALLY rated for charging up to 100w (Power delivery compatible cable), it will work. I use 2-3 different cables from Anker, and some other brands and they work just fine with warp charge.
Negative comments, well, that's as usually selling all kind of stuff with not so accurate description lol
Find a brand like Anker or so with a good reputation.
Hi all, I'm hoping that someone much smarter here can help me. **My phone is at 50% battery while conducting these tests. I've tried 4 different usb cables and 4 different vehicles and 4 different usb car plugs (1amp, 3amp 2.5amp 30w) my P6P only charges at 800ma but fluctuates wildly from 40ma to 400ma to 250ma to 800ma. I have turned off adaptive battery and the such. no joy. I don't recall this issue with A12. I'd really prefer to not have to factory reset...but......
PS I have no issues with same cables attached to my wall charge station, which charges 5 devices @1.5amp each. My P6P shows a steady 1500ma.
You aren't fast charging unless you have a PPS or PD charger with a Type-C cable. Doesn't matter which DC port or cable you use. Your car's USB ports are not fast.
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You aren't fast charging unless you have a PPS or PD charger with a Type-C cable. Doesn't matter which DC port or cable you use. Your car's USB ports are not fast.
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I'm not talking about fast charging. I just need to get the 1.5amps I was getting before with the same setup as I was getting on A12 This is the charger I just bought hoping it would fix the sub 1amp charge rate I'm getting, Without getting 1 amp rate, my phone looses power while driving and using maps and such apps. This was not an issue with A12
Amps don't matter when you're still stuck at 5V.
It should work though. No point in buying a charger with only USB-A.
I had this issue Android 13 until Sept update even with USBC PD PPS 65W charger, phone was draining using maps. now no.
Also I do not believe that Pixel phone supports QC for quick charge so you might be lucky to get 1amp charging from USB A