My Google Pixel or ASUS chromebook chargers don't seem to work unless the pda is off. I'm disappointed that this device didn't implement USB-PD and that I can't charge from either side. What's the point of a standard connector if you need a proprietary power brick. MediaTek Pump Express was a poor choice.
I agree. So plugging into your charger when the Gemini is off WILL charge it?
I have a USB-C charger in my truck, and I will say that when my Gemini is plugged in it will hold the charge at whatever level it's at. It won't charge it, but at least power won't be depleted. Still disappointing, for sure.
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I agree. So plugging into your charger when the Gemini is off WILL charge it?
I have a USB-C charger in my truck, and I will say that when my Gemini is plugged in it will hold the charge at whatever level it's at. It won't charge it, but at least power won't be depleted. Still disappointing, for sure.
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Yes, if my Gemini PDA is off-off, my Google Pixel USB charger does seem to charge it. I don't have any numbers, but I doubt it's using the higher voltage modes so it's probably a slow charge. The red charging light comes on after maybe a second. Same poor behavior using an Anker PowerCore+ 26800 USB-PD with J5 Create JUCX01 USB-C to USB-C cables (an expensive but highly regarded cable supporting 100W power delivery AND 10 Gbps transfers). My car's AOLIEKS 48W USB-C USB-PD cigarette lighter port adapter is also useless for the gemini PDA when using the 30 W USB-PD port with a JUCX01 cable. I'll try using the QC 3.0 USB-A port with Gemini-provided USB cable tonight.
None of my standard USB-C chargers seem to do anything at all when the Gemini PDA is on. As though the cable isn't even detected. This indicates a firmware issue in the charge controller, IMHO. I looked closely at the Gemini-provided USB cables and the USB-C plug seems maybe 0.5mm longer than my other USB-C cables, so maybe it's a physical thing but I doubt it.
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Yes, if my Gemini PDA is off-off, my Google Pixel USB charger does seem to charge it. I don't have any numbers, but I doubt it's using the higher voltage modes so it's probably a slow charge. The red charging light comes on after maybe a second. Same poor behavior using an Anker PowerCore+ 26800 USB-PD with J5 Create JUCX01 USB-C to USB-C cables (an expensive but highly regarded cable supporting 100W power delivery AND 10 Gbps transfers). My car's AOLIEKS 48W USB-C USB-PD cigarette lighter port adapter is also useless for the gemini PDA when using the 30 W USB-PD port with a JUCX01 cable. I'll try using the QC 3.0 USB-A port with Gemini-provided USB cable tonight.
None of my standard USB-C chargers seem to do anything at all when the Gemini PDA is on. As though the cable isn't even detected. This indicates a firmware issue in the charge controller, IMHO. I looked closely at the Gemini-provided USB cables and the USB-C plug seems maybe 0.5mm longer than my other USB-C cables, so maybe it's a physical thing but I doubt it.
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I was adding a 6-outlet wall tap to the outlet near my bedside table today, and while consolidating chargers I plugged the Gemini's USB-C cable into the AUKEY 12W Dual Port Home Travel USB Wall Charger Adapter - Black charger I have. It charges the Gemini, whether it's on or off. Not sure about voltages or numbers either, but the Battery page in settings showed "Charging by AC" and the time remaining seemed pretty short.
There does seem to be some magic sauce with the included USB cable. Using that cable worked fine with my power bank, but not my car charger.
I've done some testing using a Pluggable USB-C meter (can't post links due to being new, it's on amazon).
Charging is only on the left port. (More on that later.)
Using the supplied charger + cable I get 8.8v at 1.35A (close to the 9v the charger has printed on the back, charger says it supports 12v according to the back but I guess the Gemini doesn't).
Using an Anker PowerPort+ (60w, one type-c and USB A ports) I get:
- Anker USB A to C cable: 5v (well, 4.78v), 1.8A
- Anker USB-C to C cable: Nothing. :/ (the pluggable adapter doesn't even turn on, presumably not seeing any negotiation to even turn on).
Also tried a few other USB C cables and power supplies (Apple, Chromebook) and they don't charge it or pass power.
While the left port is the only one that will charge, the Gemini will take power on the right hand port -- the amount varying by usage it seems (I've seen between 0.15A and 0.41A when worked hard), so presumably it is possible to take power from a hub which should mean the device stays alive for longer but won't charge.
I hope it's possible to add proper PD / type C charging in a software update, for me a huge advantage of type C is not needing to have different adapters for fast charging... (I'm a little confused because pump express claims to support USB PD on mediatek. c o m / features/pump-express (sorry mangled url because I can't post them...), not sure what that means in non-marketing speak as it obviously doesn't work).
Forgot to test with it turned entirely off:
- It does charge off the Anker USB-C charger via C-to-C cable, but only at 4.96v, 0.38A, i.e. you're going to be waiting a while for a charge. Makes me hopeful this is a software thing though.
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psionfan said:
It does charge off the Anker USB-C charger via C-to-C cable, but only at 4.96v, 0.38A, i.e. you're going to be waiting a while for a charge.
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...which does lead to an interesting trick:
Turn it off, plug it to the type C charger, then it will continue charging at a low rate while on. Could be useful if you forget the right charger (which is totally something I see myself doing).
USB-C charging is a compatibility mess, and yes, it seems Gemini PDA is on the bad end of it. I have various
But I had an LG phone that couldn't reliably charge from a MacBook Pro USB-C power supply--and it seems that charger can't charge my Gemini at all. Two rather mainstream companies that can't manage to implement a standard and make it work right, Gemini can't make it work at all, isn't unique in having problems, but clearly on the bad end...
Sounds like the USB-C standard is badly designed.
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Just got my 5x today, and it does "rapid charging" when I connect with the charger in the box, but when I connect using other USB cables/plugs (one supports QC 2.0, the other is a regular charger but supports 2.1A charging), I get a message that the device is "Charging slowly."
Are there other certain specs that a cable or charger has to have to take advantage of rapid charging?
Fast charging on USB-C is apparently very picky when it comes to cables. I havent't tried charging from the USB-A cables that I bought, but the reviews for one that I was considering said that the cable limited the charging capability to 500mA. I know little about qcomm's Quick Charging but I do know that it requires feedback from an enabled device before it will allow full power. I wouldn't be surprised if the lack of that feedback from the N5X was limiting current from the charger, but it definitely looks like a quality cable is the first step to success. Notice how thick the factory LG cable is...
Most cables limit current by a significant amount. Even factory ones. That's why the OnePlus One charger was so popular. The wall dongle was nothing special (2.0A) but the cable was thick enough to actually let it output that current. The only difference now is that our phone will actually tell us if it's hooked up to a crappy charger/cable.
Thanks for the reply, I'll have to do some hunting on Amazon for another cable and see what happens.
Appreciate it if anyone else can chime in too.
the Nexus 5X does not support Qualcomm Quick Charge, at all.
Thanks, I know QC is not supported, I was just offering up that I tried one, and that I tried multiple charges that support 2.1A charging.
Interestingly enough, if I use either of the QC certified chargers that I got along with my S6 (which only output 2A) I get rapid charging. Using an Anker QC charger (also 2A) I don't, and using a different charger (can't remember the brand at the moment, but also 2A, but not QC), I also get slow charging.
Hmm...
So I've now purchased a wall charger and a car charger that both have QC 3.0 and claim to support the HTC 10, but neither of them show the "Charging rapidly" when charging my device. Only when I use the original charger or an external battery with QC 3.0 does it display that. Is it possible that it's still charging using QC 3.0 while charging if it doesn't display the "Charging rapidly" on the lock screen? I really just want a car charger and additional wall charger with multiple ports that will rapidly charge my HTC 10. I'm really sick of buying accessories that do not when they say they support the HTC 10.
These are the accessories I've tried and none of them will display "Charging rapidly":
http://www.amazon.com/Quick-Charge-...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Trons...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
This battery does display "Charging rapidly":
http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Cert...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
Any ideas?
THIS is a good multi port charger I have one and it quick charges and displays on the phone it is. I use this cable on it.
For a car charger I use THIS and it quick charges no problem with THIS cable
I am wondering the same thing... what does a cable or charger need to provide fast charging... I wonder if it's the cables because I got one from amazon and use it with the htc charger that came with the phone and it does not "quick charge," it only does it with the cable it came with. I bought this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Fusion4K-USB-...d=1464288411&sr=8-24&keywords=fusion+4k+cable
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I am wondering the same thing... what does a cable or charger need to provide fast charging... I wonder if it's the cables because I got one from amazon and use it with the htc charger that came with the phone and it does not "quick charge," it only does it with the cable it came with. I bought this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Fusion4K-USB-...d=1464288411&sr=8-24&keywords=fusion+4k+cable
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I just made sure they were the latest cables, the ones you linked to are USB 2.0 and 480mbps. while I made sure to get USB 3.1 to USB 3.0 cables and have 5gbps. I know the speeds really don't have much to do with charging say, but I think the generation of cable has a lot to do with it
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I just made sure they were the latest cables, the ones you linked to are USB 2.0 and 480mbps. while I made sure to get USB 3.1 to USB 3.0 cables and have 5gbps. I know the speeds really don't have much to do with charging say, but I think the generation of cable has a lot to do with it
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Hmmm.... good point, if someone could confirm this maybe? Does make much more sense, I guess I should've read better. I will just get one of your cables because I just recently bought a QC 3.0 car charger and there's no point in it if it ain't fast charging.
So the Aukey multi-port charger came with a USB-C cable and it claims to support the HTC 10, so it's infuriating that it doesn't work.
I use this wall charger and it shows "charging rapidly" on the screen. I have an older cable with the micro usb connection, so I use this adapter to make the connection to the phone. Combined, they work like a charm.
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So I've now purchased a wall charger and a car charger that both have QC 3.0 and claim to support the HTC 10, but neither of them show the "Charging rapidly" when charging my device. Only when I use the original charger or an external battery with QC 3.0 does it display that. Is it possible that it's still charging using QC 3.0 while charging if it doesn't display the "Charging rapidly" on the lock screen? I really just want a car charger and additional wall charger with multiple ports that will rapidly charge my HTC 10. I'm really sick of buying accessories that do not when they say they support the HTC 10.
These are the accessories I've tried and none of them will display "Charging rapidly":
http://www.amazon.com/Quick-Charge-...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Trons...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
This battery does display "Charging rapidly":
http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Cert...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
Any ideas?
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Are you using a USB-C to USB-C cable? those accessories only have quick charging on the USB-C port. If you buy new ones make sure to check what ports support the QC 3.0. Sometimes the only have one port that has the QC and the rest are normal 2 amp ports.
I've just ordered the Aukey 6 port USB Quick Charge 3.0 Wall Charging Station from Amazon UK (link below), so I'll test it once it comes in and post here with the results. One thing I noticed is that the Aukey hub only supports QC3.0 on the USB-C plugs, not the USB2 ports. I'll be using this to charge my HTC 10 and my Pixel C using the USB-C ports and USB-C cables for both devices so I can see if both QC3.0 AND USB-C Rapid Charging works at the same time. The remaining USB2 ports I'll use to plug my Qi charging pads into and my smartwatch charger. Looking forward to not having so many plugs lying around.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Charger-Te...EFN8/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=A2UZUMHNJKCOJU
I'll let you all know once it all comes.
Okay, so I just got delivery for all my bits in my previous post. I've made sure both my HTC 10 and my Google Pixel C ran down the battery to 20% on each and plugged them both into the USB-C ports on the Aukey charging station using USB-C to USB-C 3.1 cables, both 3 foot long. I'm not using any of the cables that came with my tablet or phone or the USB-C 2.0 cable that comes with the Aukey charging station, I am using Belkin USB-C to USB-C 3.1 cables.
Using the Belkin USB-C 3.1 cables both my HTC 10 and Pixel C show Charging Rapidly after around 45 seconds on the lock screen with a time remaining counter.
Using the Aukey USB-C 2.0 cable that came with the Aukey charging station I do not get Charging Rapidly at all on my HTC 10, I only get "Charging" and a percentage.
However, I do get Charging Rapidly with time remaining counter on my Pixel C when using the Aukey USB-C 2.0 cable.
Based purely on my own testing, I would make sure you use high quality cables, preferably the 3.1 gen cables and then nothing will be slow. I have no idea why the USB-C 2.0 cable doesn't like to Quick Charge my HTC 10, and I don't have any other gen 2.0 USB-C cables to try out, so sorry about that.
I hope that helps some of you out.
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Okay, so I just got delivery for all my bits in my previous post. I've made sure both my HTC 10 and my Google Pixel C ran down the battery to 20% on each and plugged them both into the USB-C ports on the Aukey charging station using USB-C to USB-C 3.1 cables, both 3 foot long. I'm not using any of the cables that came with my tablet or phone or the USB-C 2.0 cable that comes with the Aukey charging station, I am using Belkin USB-C to USB-C 3.1 cables.
Using the Belkin USB-C 3.1 cables both my HTC 10 and Pixel C show Charging Rapidly after around 45 seconds on the lock screen with a time remaining counter.
Using the Aukey USB-C 2.0 cable that came with the Aukey charging station I do not get Charging Rapidly at all on my HTC 10, I only get "Charging" and a percentage.
However, I do get Charging Rapidly with time remaining counter on my Pixel C when using the Aukey USB-C 2.0 cable.
Based purely on my own testing, I would make sure you use high quality cables, preferably the 3.1 gen cables and then nothing will be slow. I have no idea why the USB-C 2.0 cable doesn't like to Quick Charge my HTC 10, and I don't have any other gen 2.0 USB-C cables to try out, so sorry about that.
I hope that helps some of you out.
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Mine does not show Charging Rapidly even though I use HTC supplied charger and cable! Do I need to activate it or what? I am using and EU plug converter to my US charger, might that be the problem, although I doubt it just passes on the same supply, its not a frequency/voltage converter.
Thank you for your help!
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Mine does not show Charging Rapidly even though I use HTC supplied charger and cable! Do I need to activate it or what? I am using and EU plug converter to my US charger, might that be the problem, although I doubt it just passes on the same supply, its not a frequency/voltage converter.
Thank you for your help!
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I'll check tonight and let you know later, but I'm pretty sure that the charger that comes the HTC 10 in the box is NOT a Quick Charge 3.0 Rapid Charger... Which would explain why you are not seeing "Charging Rapidly" with the original charger and USB cable. I may be wrong, but I will let you know either way in this thread as it is honestly something that I did not look at when I got my phone. Mine is a UK model bought in-store in the UK so what you get in the box may vary depending on the region you purchased from.
Cheers
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Mine does not show Charging Rapidly even though I use HTC supplied charger and cable! Do I need to activate it or what? I am using and EU plug converter to my US charger, might that be the problem, although I doubt it just passes on the same supply, its not a frequency/voltage converter.
Thank you for your help!
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The supplied HTC charger and cable are QC 3.0 compatible. They show "Charging rapidly" when I connect my phone.
The iClever 24w QC 3.0 charger works with the orange-e 3.1 usb c. It displays "chargin rapidly". This is probably unrelated, but the charger doesn't show it as chargin rapidly, but the phone does.
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I'll check tonight and let you know later, but I'm pretty sure that the charger that comes the HTC 10 in the box is NOT a Quick Charge 3.0 Rapid Charger... Which would explain why you are not seeing "Charging Rapidly" with the original charger and USB cable. I may be wrong, but I will let you know either way in this thread as it is honestly something that I did not look at when I got my phone. Mine is a UK model bought in-store in the UK so what you get in the box may vary depending on the region you purchased from.
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The supplied charger is definitely a quick charge 3.0 charger, it even says it on the power brick. It doesn't matter what region you are in, all of them come with a quick charge 3.0 charger.
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The supplied charger is definitely a quick charge 3.0 charger, it even says it on the power brick. It doesn't matter what region you are in, all of them come with a quick charge 3.0 charger.
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Yup, you are correct. Just got home and plugged my charger in and it too shows "Charging Rapidly". COol, now I have a backup in case my Aukey stops working for whatever reason.
@fidanhGPE I'm not sure why yours doesn't show as Charging Rapidly when using your original charger, possibly something wrong with your handset maybe? Sorry I can't be of more help to you as all mine works fine with the original HTC supplied charger and HTC USB-A to USB-C charging cable, and also with the Aukey charging station and a USB-C to USB-C Gen 3.1 cable.
Cheers
Having a Nexus 6P, I was under the impression "rapid charging" only worked with a type-c to type-c charger..?
fidanhGPE said:
Mine does not show Charging Rapidly even though I use HTC supplied charger and cable! Do I need to activate it or what? I am using and EU plug converter to my US charger, might that be the problem, although I doubt it just passes on the same supply, its not a frequency/voltage converter.
Thank you for your help!
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It might be the converter because you should get "Charging rapidly" when using the charger and cable that came with the phone (that is still weird though), and yes they are Quick Charge 3.0 compatible like the other person mentioned above.
PaoloMix09 said:
It might be the converter because you should get "Charging rapidly" when using the charger and cable that came with the phone (that is still weird though), and yes they are Quick Charge 3.0 compatible like the other person mentioned above.
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I checked it, it QC 3.0 and it is charging rapidly, though I get it only on the power/battery settings only, no notification when I plug it in.
On another note, do you know if I can use old (normal) car chargers on HTC 10? Will it charge the phone, although I am not expecting a quick charge there? Will it harm the phone?
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I checked it, it QC 3.0 and it is charging rapidly, though I get it only on the power/battery settings only, no notification when I plug it in.
On another note, do you know if I can use old (normal) car chargers on HTC 10? Will it charge the phone, although I am not expecting a quick charge there? Will it harm the phone?
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Nah man just make sure you have a type a to type C usb cable that has that 56ohm resistor crap to make sure your phone will be fine. Phone will charge just fine. I actually just got a QC 3.0 car charger as well and it doesn't charge THAT much faster than an old car charger I had.
Do you have any recommendation for car charger (cigarette lighter plug)?
One with fast charger feature which is compatible with Google Pixel 2 (USB-C PD?).
For my old Nexus 6, I must use car charger with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0, because otherwise the Nexus 6 will still loosing power when using car navigation software. Standard car charger cannot keep up with the battery drain.
Thanks.
I came from a Nexus 6 too. I ended up buying micro USB to usb-c mini adapters which just go on the end of my old USB leads. I threw one on the car charger and it works fine. It's a stop Gap measure, and I mainly got it for an ihome Android charger/radio, but ended up wrapping duct tape around a usb-c charger cable and putting it in the radio dock.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/ya/r...reorder_params=B01J3GG82U,112-8020237-8121850
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I use the Aukey QC 3.0 car charger with dual 3.0 USB ports. It does not register as rapid charging but it is very quick. I used it with Moto Z Droid and used Google navigation while charging and it charges quick and does not lose charge. I also use the Aukey 3.0 wall charger and that does register as rapid charging.
I just bought a Deltaco (a Scandinavian brand) 3A/5V 15W car charger for 6,5 USD. Can't feel much difference compared to the original home charger's 18W using a 2. Gen Goobay 60W USB C-C cable.
Phone registers the input as rapid charging.
Ampere registers 2.7A with the screen on. Same as the standard charger, so I didn't find any reason why it should be worse
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I bought the Nekteck 5.4 amp charger https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH9NEM2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. The curly cord is hard wired and side mounted with a USB C plug on the end, it charges my Pixel 2 fast (charging rapidly). I had issues with other chargers and cables that wouldn't charge my Pixel 2 at full speed, this one works great. Also, it has a USB A port on the top so you can rapidly charge two devices at the same time.
The Verizon branded one works really great. Charges very fast.
Any update on these?
I'm going to buy this USB-C with Power Delivery charger from Aukey:
https://www.aukey.com/products/usb-c-dual-port-car-charger-with-power-delivery
Will report back with results.
I use the tronsmart car charger.. It charges the phone rapidly.. Made a short video on it:
I have a Verizon USB C (purchased from Amazon for $17) and it works great. It fits very tight and shows up as fast charging.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0711FG2TB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_sLsxpduAP1r1H
PuffDaddy_d said:
I'm going to buy this USB-C with Power Delivery charger from Aukey:
https://www.aukey.com/products/usb-c-dual-port-car-charger-with-power-delivery
Will report back with results.
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Well, I waited too long and it is out of stock, but it looks like I may have avoided a bad purchase according to this supposed Google Engineer's review:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/B01LGO9LE4/R3J0UNYEXFSH0X/ref=cm_cr_dp_mb_rvw_1?ie=UTF8&cursor=1
Any other power delivery compatible options?
I think the hard wired C cabled chargers are the safest bet because of all the dicey 3rd party C cables out there.
I just got the $10 Monoprice USB C charger with PD (9v 3A) because it is rated to charge the at least as fast as the in-box wall charger. Not shilling for Monoprice, just seemed like a better deal than all the sketchy chargers on Amazon with fake reviews, none of which offered anything but 5v 3A or worse at under $25. I figure it's trustworthy because they say it's certified and Benson tested their cables and said they were OK. So far it has not tried to burn my car down or nuke my phone. I'm using it with the 0.5m Monoprice cable, it was about $17 with tax for the bundle. I can't post links, search 24424 on Monoprice.
So I've been googling around and trying to research this as much as I could but I'm still not sure of the answer so I was wondering if I could get some answers here. By the way, apologies if my terminology about the different connections are incorrect at any point in my post.
So I originally bought this Aukey car charger with Qualcomm 3.0 quickcharge (LINK) with 2 outlets for a USB Type-A connection to be plugged into it to charge 2 devices. I originally used it for my old phone that used a Micro-USB connection. After I got my Pixel 2, I needed new cables with its USB-C connection. I went and got these Anker USB-A to USB-C cables (LINK) so that I could charge with these cables or to connect my phone to my PC. Now, I've read that older Anker USB-C cables have had issues but from doing some more reading that these have been fixed I believe.
I am planning on using the Aukey charger mentioned above, and then plugging in one of the Anker USB-A to USB-C to charge my phone and was wondering if it'll be a safe combination? From some googling around and research, it seems it won't charge as fast as the wall charger (which is amazingly fast btw) or a USB-PD connection but that's perfectly fine as I don't need it to be as quick. I'm just cautious because I've read about the potential issues with using a bad charger with a not-up-to-standard cable (like something that isn't necessarily verified by Benson Leung or something). I don't care/need USB-PD charging (which I assume is where it uses a dedicated USB-C cable coming from the charger or a separate USB-C to USB-C cable connecting the cable to charger), as long as the combination I just mentioned works.
Toronadian said:
So I've been googling around and trying to research this as much as I could but I'm still not sure of the answer so I was wondering if I could get some answers here. By the way, apologies if my terminology about the different connections are incorrect at any point in my post.
So I originally bought this Aukey car charger with Qualcomm 3.0 quickcharge (LINK) with 2 outlets for a USB Type-A connection to be plugged into it to charge 2 devices. I originally used it for my old phone that used a Micro-USB connection. After I got my Pixel 2, I needed new cables with its USB-C connection. I went and got these Anker USB-A to USB-C cables (LINK) so that I could charge with these cables or to connect my phone to my PC. Now, I've read that older Anker USB-C cables have had issues but from doing some more reading that these have been fixed I believe.
I am planning on using the Aukey charger mentioned above, and then plugging in one of the Anker USB-A to USB-C to charge my phone and was wondering if it'll be a safe combination? From some googling around and research, it seems it won't charge as fast as the wall charger (which is amazingly fast btw) or a USB-PD connection but that's perfectly fine as I don't need it to be as quick. I'm just cautious because I've read about the potential issues with using a bad charger with a not-up-to-standard cable (like something that isn't necessarily verified by Benson Leung or something). I don't care/need USB-PD charging (which I assume is where it uses a dedicated USB-C cable coming from the charger or a separate USB-C to USB-C cable connecting the cable to charger), as long as the combination I just mentioned works.
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It will charge your phone just fine, but as you said, it will not fast charge. I use a similar setup now as I continue to look for the right PD car charger.
Toronadian said:
So I've been googling around and trying to research this as much as I could but I'm still not sure of the answer so I was wondering if I could get some answers here. By the way, apologies if my terminology about the different connections are incorrect at any point in my post.
So I originally bought this Aukey car charger with Qualcomm 3.0 quickcharge (...)
I am planning on using the Aukey charger mentioned above, and then plugging in one of the Anker USB-A to USB-C to charge my phone and was wondering if it'll be a safe combination? From some googling around and research, it seems it won't charge as fast as the wall charger (which is amazingly fast btw) or a USB-PD connection but that's perfectly fine as I don't need it to be as quick. I'm just cautious because I've read about the potential issues with using a bad charger with a not-up-to-standard cable (like something that isn't necessarily verified by Benson Leung or something). I don't care/need USB-PD charging (which I assume is where it uses a dedicated USB-C cable coming from the charger or a separate USB-C to USB-C cable connecting the cable to charger), as long as the combination I just mentioned works.
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It will charge your phone just fine, but as you said, it will not fast charge. I use a similar setup now as I continue to look for the right PD car charger.
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You guys should both look at 24424 on Monoprice. That QC charger isn't going to fast charge no matter what, I used one with a Tronsmart branded USB C to Micro B adapter that Benson recommended no problems though. They have a cheaper non-PD charger too, but why bother?
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You guys should both look at 24424 on Monoprice. That QC charger isn't going to fast charge no matter what, I used one with a Tronsmart branded USB C to Micro B adapter that Benson recommended no problems though. They have a cheaper non-PD charger too, but why bother?
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I'm sorry, I don't understand. If we already have charger that aren't PD compliant then why do you recommend buying another?
I plan to get this one since it had strong reviews and tests:
GearMo 75W QC 3.0 & USB Type C Power Delivery (PD) Car Charger works with: MacPro,Chromebook,Galaxy s8 s7 Edge Plus,Note 8,LG G6 G5 V20 V30,HTC 10,a9,8,Pixel 2 XL,Nexus,iPhone 7,iPad. FCC Approved https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07115BLPP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_bSiBAb2H2P7W0
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I'm sorry, I don't understand. If we already have charger that aren't PD compliant then why do you recommend buying another?
I plan to get this one since it had strong reviews and tests:
GearMo 75W QC 3.0 & USB Type C Power Delivery (PD) Car Charger works with: MacPro,Chromebook,Galaxy s8 s7 Edge Plus,Note 8,LG G6 G5 V20 V30,HTC 10,a9,8,Pixel 2 XL,Nexus,iPhone 7,iPad. FCC Approved
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A USB C charger 5v 3W standard will still charge faster than a USB A QC charger, but it's only $3 less on Monoprice for the non-PD one. I don't see anything on usb DOT org listing GearMo on the certified power brick chart. I wouldn't risk it. There's no reason to put a USB 3.0 A-type port on a charger, seems fishy to me.
This one looks promising as well:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07234DKQ5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_D0lIAb2M0BDZG
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I'm using this Meagoes charger from Amazon. Works well.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076H7X8QN
Hello, I just purchased a Pixel 2 and wanted to buy a 6' cord that I can use with the fast charge. I was looking at Anker because I use them for my Nexus 6 and they work well BUT I read reviews on Amazon and I cant find one thst will fast charge. A second question is i wanted a extra brick and plug for car and I wsnted the USB ends... Thoughts?
You'll need a USB-C to USB-C cable that supports Power Delivery (PD) to connect to and fast charge with the original Pixel 2 charger.
I have these which fast charge properly: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0756QGTVQ
For a car charger, I use this Meagoes charger which also properly supports PD: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076H7X8QN
The same cables as above also work properly with it, or if you prefer a shorter cable (3 ft): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01L0F6AJI
For an extra wall charger, Anker has this which also fast charges properly: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y427WT7
I second this, have the same cables and just bought a second pack since they're on sale. They have the 56k Ohm resistor built-in for protection as well (from what I've read this is key to not frying your battery on usb-c/quick charge devices).
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I second this, have the same cables and just bought a second pack since they're on sale. They have the 56k Ohm resistor built-in for protection as well (from what I've read this is key to not frying your battery on usb-c/quick charge devices).
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"Notes:
Not compatible with Power Delivery."
The Pixel 2 uses Power Delivery (PD) for fast charging.
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"Notes:
Not compatible with Power Delivery."
The Pixel 2 uses Power Delivery (PD) for fast charging.
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Well I've been using on my P2 for several months. I obey the Li-ion 20-80% charging suggestions by Battery University and using these cables it charges in about 45 minutes for this battery percent range. So their spec may be true but that charge is more than fast enough for me. To each their own ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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You'll need a USB-C to USB-C cable that supports Power Delivery (PD) to connect to and fast charge with the original Pixel 2 charger.
I have these which fast charge properly: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0756QGTVQ
For a car charger, I use this Meagoes charger which also properly supports PD: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076H7X8QN
The same cables as above also work properly with it, or if you prefer a shorter cable (3 ft): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01L0F6AJI
For an extra wall charger, Anker has this which also fast charges properly: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y427WT7
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Most excellent!
I have two extra cables, one from Anker and one from the AT&T store's tech dept, both USB C to USB A. After 15 or so months, I noticed that my USB C to USB C cable no longer securely fits into the Pixel 2's USB C port. As a result, sometimes I plug in but there is no connection, i.e. no charging. The problem has spread to my Anker USB C to USB A cable. For several months I barely used the USB C to USB A cables. I requested an RMA for the Pixel 2 and the original USB C to USB C cable securely plugs into the new device suggesting the original Pixel 2's port is mysteriously damaged. Sharing this experience in case anyone else is going through or has gone through this.
The cable doesn't make much difference as long as it meets USB-C standards. The limitation is the charger; even then, I believe the Pixel 2 will fast charge at 18w, not 30.
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I have two extra cables, one from Anker and one from the AT&T store's tech dept, both USB C to USB A. After 15 or so months, I noticed that my USB C to USB C cable no longer securely fits into the Pixel 2's USB C port. As a result, sometimes I plug in but there is no connection, i.e. no charging. The problem has spread to my Anker USB C to USB A cable. For several months I barely used the USB C to USB A cables. I requested an RMA for the Pixel 2 and the original USB C to USB C cable securely plugs into the new device suggesting the original Pixel 2's port is mysteriously damaged. Sharing this experience in case anyone else is going through or has gone through this.
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I've noticed the USB port gets clogged with gunk over time. Use something thin like a plastic pick and gently scrape it out. If you can get tiny swabs, use isopropyl alcohol to clean it a little better. This solved my charging problems.
Not sure what's going on here but just plugged my P6P in and after about twenty minutes of doing something else I checked it and started laughing. Also the net standby stuff is at 33%. Is all this because of this months patch because it's charged better than this last month. Anyone else have this problem and how did you fix it? Thanks in advance for any help.
Try a new cable or different power outlet
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Try a new cable or different power outlet
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I tried cables, adapters, outlets...it only charges nicely when the phone is off
Metalhead520 said:
I tried cables, adapters, outlets...it only charges nicely when the phone is off
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Id try dirty flashing factory images
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Id try dirty flashing factory images
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I don't have anything that isn't already on Google drive so if next months patch doesn't fix it I'll probably do a factory reset
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I don't have anything that isn't already on Google drive so if next months patch doesn't fix it I'll probably do a factory reset
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Dirty flash without wiping.
See if that fixes it
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Not sure what's going on here but just plugged my P6P in and after about twenty minutes of doing something else I checked it and started laughing. Also the net standby stuff is at 33%. Is all this because of this months patch because it's charged better than this last month. Anyone else have this problem and how did you fix it? Thanks in advance for any help.
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I had a problem charging my phone for the past 3 months. Finally upgraded to a new GaN3 charger and it solved all my charging headaches and future proofs me for a few days. I have these fancy magnetic adapters I bought too which really add to the experience.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VC7Z3YF/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_0FAK0WVVPZHP4DPFMBQW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09HZTP75B/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_CG66V9Z3GXKZWPAVCD0P?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WJWQMML/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_7ABGBXM755PFHCKWHPP2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
There's the links for you all. Has worked with everything I have put on it so far. Pixel buds, samsung watch, S21 Ultra, Pixel 6 Pro charges FAST with no heat.
I doubt if it's the latest firmware - at least by itself. My wife and I haven't had any problems charging our phones from multiple sources/different cables.
You could try turning "Adaptive Charging" off and see if it helps, although I still have mine (and "Adaptive Battery") on.
Thank you guys for the help. I actually turned everything that has to do with the word "adaptive" off so I'll test it over the next few days. Woke up to my phone only 85% charged on my wireless charger/lamp which sucks. I just wish Google didn't set so many restrictions on what can charge the phone at it's fastest and keep it there.
My P6P and my wifes Pixel 6 charge faster than that and we use one of THESE to make it as slow as we can overnight (with adaptive charging) so i dont think it is anything to do with the recent patch.
Turning off Adaptive Charging and using a nice PPS charger and cable will alleviate most of the charging complaints for the Pixel 6. Those old USB-A or regular PD chargers won't cut it.
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Turning off Adaptive Charging and using a nice PPS charger and cable will alleviate most of the charging complaints for the Pixel 6. Those old USB-A or regular PD chargers won't cut it.
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I also recently experienced the same issue as the poster, and honestly idk what it could be other than an individual defective phone or a bad update. First noticed the issues about a week or two ago for me; although don't have an exact date. It doesn't happen 100% of the time, but it does frequently occur about 90%
At LOW battery, I'd be getting 9w draw (read on an external USB C charge-reader). Accubattery and ampere, while less accurate, also read 930MaH charge. Google stating 4.5 hours till full charge. Despite my phone stating its being "charged rapidly"
Contrasting that to what I consider "normal" at 18w-23w draw on the charge-reader, or 3600 - 4600 MaH with accubattery and ampere
Same charge speed on all bricks I used. Tried different outlets, cables, even my car:
* Google charger
* ANKER 30w PD
* ANKER 65w PD PPS (brand new)
* FasGear 30w PD AC (car)
* Used 4 different USB-C to C cables: one by Google, two by Anker, one by UGreen.
* same charging speed from 1% through 50% (which is supposed to be when it charges the fastest)
* temperature was normal
* technically only "adaptive charging" is relavent (which was off), however for ****s and giggles I turned anything adaptive off.
Beyond the testing I did above, I checked accubattery's history and saw several days (where I charged from sub10% to 100%) report the maximum off-screen charge was still below 1000MaH throughout the entire charge session
It sounds like something might be physically broken at your end. I'd suggest to contact Google. They will want you to go through a couple steps (probably factory resetting the phone, changing cable and power brick), after that they will probably offer you a replacement/repair the phone.
Indeed. I wonder if there could be something physically or electronically borked with the USB-C port/connection on the phone itself.
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Indeed. I wonder if there could be something physically or electronically borked with the USB-C port/connection on the phone itself.
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Be careful with USB-C, it easily captures dust that is pushed in the back of the slot when you plug the cable, and after a while it prevents the cable to be fully inserted, creating connection issues.
Anker Powerline III cables don't fully support PPS. Charging would disable and enabled, in an apparently random way. Anker's 10ft usb c to c cable works fine though. So extraordinarily thin cables like the powerline 3 probably provide less than ideal charging speed.
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Anker Powerline III cables don't fully support PPS. Charging would disable and enabled, in an apparently random way. Anker's 10ft usb c to c cable works fine though. So extraordinarily thin cables like the powerline 3 probably provide less than ideal charging speed
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Anker Powerline III cables don't fully support PPS. Charging would disable and enabled, in an apparently random way. Anker's 10ft usb c to c cable works fine though. So extraordinarily thin cables like the powerline 3 probably provide less than ideal charging speed.
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So even though I have the power line 3 flow anker 6ft cable and their 65 watt nano 2 charger I'm not getting the fastest speeds? The cable is rated at 100 watts so I thought I was eliminating charging bottlenecks.
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So even though I have the power line 3 flow anker 6ft cable and their 65 watt nano 2 charger I'm not getting the fastest speeds? The cable is rated at 100 watts so I thought I was eliminating charging bottlenecks.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086DMNK8R/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_B2B21MRD10TTP0P52NXY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is the product I'm referring too.
USB Power Delivery is much more powerful, supporting up to 100W of power to charge up even the most demanding gadgets such as laptops. It’s also safer, as gadgets and chargers communicate with each other over the USB cable to confirm the optimal charging power level. This handshaking approach supports voltage steps at 5V, 9V, 15V, and 20V for power outputs ranging from 0.5W to 100W. The new USB Power Delivery Programmable Power Supply (USB PD PPS) standard supports configurable voltages too, enabling more optimal charging. If two devices fail to communicate a suitable power rule, USB Power Delivery will default to the next power option supported by the relevant USB protocol, such as USB-C 1.5A
PPS itself does not enable 100w charging. USB PD 3.0 does. So that wattage bottleneck you're referring to doesn't matter since PPS is another charging standard built intop of USB PD 3.0
So what I was saying is that an extraordinarily thin cable like the Anker Powerline 3 may not be ideal when using a PPS charger. Works fine with USB PD 3.0
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086DMNK8R/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_B2B21MRD10TTP0P52NXY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is the product I'm referring too.
USB Power Delivery is much more powerful, supporting up to 100W of power to charge up even the most demanding gadgets such as laptops. It’s also safer, as gadgets and chargers communicate with each other over the USB cable to confirm the optimal charging power level. This handshaking approach supports voltage steps at 5V, 9V, 15V, and 20V for power outputs ranging from 0.5W to 100W. The new USB Power Delivery Programmable Power Supply (USB PD PPS) standard supports configurable voltages too, enabling more optimal charging. If two devices fail to communicate a suitable power rule, USB Power Delivery will default to the next power option supported by the relevant USB protocol, such as USB-C 1.5A
PPS itself does not enable 100w charging. USB PD 3.0 does. So that wattage bottleneck you're referring to doesn't matter since PPS another charging standard built intop of USB PD 3.0
So what I was saying is that an extraordinarily thin cables like the Anker Powerline 3 may not be ideal when using a PPS charger. Works fine with USB PD 3.0
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So what I'm getting at right now is that my 100 watt flow cable is actually charging slower with my wall charger then the one you linked?
Are you using a Powerline 3 cable and a PPS charger if so? It may perform sub optimally, in my experiences.