NOTE: Either it has been a f***ing big time coincidence, or it was triggered on Samsung servers somehow (?) by trying to download the firmware to my notebook using SAMFIRM (it was identified, R805FXXU1ESI1, but failed to download), or Samsung reacted real quick to this post, but anyway in a matter of hours after posting this I'm getting the September update through the official channel (Galaxy Wearable app). The updates below were posted before this very note. Just installed. Loving the new look and all features and corrections I mentioned are there! At the time of this writing the online documentation (https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R805F/ZTA/doc.html) still points to the February update (R805FXXU1DSB3, posted in May). EDIT: the update introduced a known bug, one that makes the watch disconnect while updating bundled apps and the update stalls. I guess this may be why Samsung was holding back the updates. OMG. A patch that solves a problem but introduces another. Like Microsoft with "Windwoes" 10.
UPDATE: now it doesn't even serve as a watch. It entered Daylight Savings Time, which has been abolished in the country, and the time settings option is grayed out. Well done, "Sam-Jong"!
UPDATE 2: it looks like there are builds for all regions up to September, but Sam-Jong is lazy enough not to publish them. Just change the region code (ZTA) in the link below and check it.
http://fota-cloud-dn.ospserver.net/firmware/ZTA/SM-R805F/version.test.xml
UPDATE 3: there is even an October update for region TGY:
http://fota-cloud-dn.ospserver.net/firmware/TGY/SM-R805F/version.test.xml
Samsung is holding off these releases for some obscure reason. One of them could be sabotaging Galaxy Watch to favor the Active lineup, like they did to the Note 9 to favor the Note 10.
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I have an expensive Galaxy Watch LTE, a high-end product, bought at Claro/Brazil this week, national/legal, model SM-R805F.
I've read that it received an update that allows it to monitor outdoor swim training (at the sea), so I bought the model.
The problem is that, even after the firmware update, it does not offer this function, nor several others that have been announced. The lag in step count in walks goes uncorrected.
I did some research and found out that this same model (SM-R805F) received an update abroad in May, which is already outdated, but here there's no update since February, even more outdated.
What's the reason behind this disrespect towards Brazil, and especially towards the LTE variant, top of the line? The BT variant (model SM-R800, without LTE) was updated here in September. So LTE here is at least 7 months behind BT.
LTE for me is a requirement.
Here follows Samsung's own update documentation.
Germany (DBT Region, carrier-free):
https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R805F/DBT/doc.html (May firmware)
Brazil (ZTA [Claro] and ZVV [Vivo]):
https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R805F/ZTA/doc.html (February firmware)
https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R805F/ZVV/doc.html (February firmware)
The ZTO region (Brazil, carrie-free) does not exist for this model, the following page does not exist:
https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R805F/ZTO/doc.html
although the model is reported on sale by the Samsung Brazil page. It never existed, was never available for sale. Samsung says on its page that it is available in its own stores, but that has not left the papers. I went to several stores and the answer is always the same: "only available at the carriers".
The ZTO region only exists for the BT variant:
https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R800/ZTO/doc.html (September firmware).
I've tried all the way to contact Samsung, chat, Samsung Members app and etc, I tried the number 0800-942-9060, a number that a store dealer gave me, but when I call during office hours a recorded voice informs you that at the moment they cannot answer, and at other times it informs you to call during office hours. A real booby trap.
All the answers I received by the other means were "we can do nothing". They don't even give a justification for what is happening.
I have a laptop, a TV, wired and wireless chargers, a dock, a tablet and a Note, all recent, all Samsung tops, but apparently the king has laid in splendid cradle and thinks he can abandon the user that bets in the company's products.
I am responsible for IT in a growing business, I recently recommended buying more than a dozen Samsung Expert X30 laptops for employees, but I am reviewing this recommendation.
As I said in the note topping the post, the watch finally got a firmware update. But it introduced a known bug, one that makes the watch disconnect while updating bundled apps and the update stalls. I guess this may be why Samsung was holding back the updates. OMG. A patch that solves a problem but introduces another. Like Microsoft with "Windwoes" 10.
Whammamoosha said:
As I said in the note topping the post, the watch finally got a firmware update. But it introduced a known bug, one that makes the watch disconnect while updating bundled apps and the update stalls. I guess this may be why Samsung was holding back the updates. OMG. A patch that solves a problem but introduces another. Like Microsoft with "Windwoes" 10.
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I'm facing the same problem!
Whammamoosha said:
As I said in the note topping the post, the watch finally got a firmware update. But it introduced a known bug, one that makes the watch disconnect while updating bundled apps and the update stalls. I guess this may be why Samsung was holding back the updates. OMG. A patch that solves a problem but introduces another. Like Microsoft with "Windwoes" 10.
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I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, Northeastern USA, Verizon 4G, watch (LTE) is SM-805U. Tizen 4.0.0.4, no issue, runs like a top....
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lcvleo said:
I'm facing the same problem!
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So do I.
Did any of you report the problem to Samsung? If yes, what is the best channel? Samsung Members?
KruseLudsMobile said:
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, Northeastern USA, Verizon 4G, watch (LTE) is SM-805U. Tizen 4.0.0.4, no issue, runs like a top....
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The problem is localized. Brazil this time. It surfaced on other countries previously and was corrected.
But it seems Samsung didn't resist keeping its bad reputation with this watch and included the bug on the September update released this early November (2 months late). Gosh.
It's been 20 days since the cursed update and still no word from Samsung other than covering up for all the holes I depicted in this post.
A device that can't update its most meaningful app is something between lameness and insult.
Whammamoosha said:
It's been 20 days since the cursed update and still no word from Samsung other than covering up for all the holes I depicted in this post.
A device that can't update its most meaningful app is something between lameness and insult.
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welcome to the club. except on my 805w, the app update issue has been going on since june or july's update or something.
also posting and expecting any resolution on xda will not yeild any support on the issue. samsung members and forums would be the most productive way of going about this.
Mine hasnt even pulled the update from earlier in the year. I always said I would never buy Samsung again.
Whammamoosha said:
It's been 20 days since the cursed update and still no word from Samsung other than covering up for all the holes I depicted in this post.
A device that can't update its most meaningful app is something between lameness and insult.
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Raise a problem via Samsung members, with logs/ screenshot.
As far as I know, Gear side is still working on Tizen 3/4 on R8x5, so it maybe a problem from localization.
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Whammamoosha said:
It's been 20 days since the cursed update and still no word from Samsung other than covering up for all the holes I depicted in this post.
A device that can't update its most meaningful app is something between lameness and insult.
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Raise a problem via Samsung members, with logs/ screenshot.
As far as I know, Gear side is still working on Tizen 3/4 on R8x5, so it maybe a problem from localization.
tinhduong said:
Raise a problem via Samsung members, with logs/ screenshot.
As far as I know, Gear side is still working on Tizen 3/4 on R8x5, so it maybe a problem from localization.
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Raise a problem via Samsung members, with logs/ screenshot.
As far as I know, Gear side is still working on Tizen 3/4 on R8x5, so it maybe a problem from localization.
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Thanks for trying to help, but I've already raised the whole problem via Samsung Members, XDA, Reddit, the whole lot.
Since it's a long-dwelling, well-known and widespread bug, with thousand of complaints worldwide since it started appearing (and being corrected region-wise/variant-wise for a few random regions/variants), I wasn't supposed to *need* to report anything.
But in this post I reported the DNA of the bug *and* of the lack of support for the LTE variant, and also denounced an evident, just-in-time cover-up by Samsung for the latter.
So there's a plethora of detail here *and* from thousands of baffled users, so what's the point in posting pictures/logs? Had Samsung just picked a SM-R805FZSAZTA unit (in my case), upgraded the OS, factory reset it and tried to update the apps, and *fail* at that, it would have a *live* case to work on, with much more detail than a user could ever provide.
BTW Samsung's standard procedure through Samsung Members in publicly well-known cases is more psychological than technical: ask for pictures and logs to make the user believe the matter is being dealt with when it's actually just buying time. Samsung Members in most cases is *useless*. But Samsung just can't say "Sorry, it's a well-know problem, but due to the lack of standardization and centralization in dealing with our products' issues we're lost and haven't done much since the problem appeared. Some random, lucky regions/variants of the product have been contemplated with a solution, but because it's a mess here we've just introduced the bug again, this time in your region/variant, and it will take some awful time until your product's region/variant catches up".
Some issues can only be resolved when a few big heads roll.
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Anyone have any new info on us getting Lollipop? Info on Google is slim.
My guess is spring or summer time. If we see any leaks then that means it should come a month or two after the leak. Its just a guessing game for samsung
Samsung S5 has just started receiving the lollipop update. So hopefully our Tab S gets it very soon.
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When we start seeing exynos variants getting 5.0 we know we will be getting closer.
I recently read (sorry can not remember where) that because the Tab S was such a low seller that Samsung may not bother. I was not aware it was a low seller.
lartomar2002 said:
I recently read (sorry can not remember where) that because the Tab S was such a low seller that Samsung may not bother. I was not aware it was a low seller.
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Im pretty sure were gonna get the update. If some other tablets like the tab 4 are gonna get them, the we should get them too. The tab s is samsungs flagship right now i think
lartomar2002 said:
I recently read (sorry can not remember where) that because the Tab S was such a low seller that Samsung may not bother. I was not aware it was a low seller.
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I don't know about sales figures but I've read quotes from Samsung in various articles stating the the Tab S was a high priority to get an early update. After all, It is still their flagship tablet at the moment.
Rage1ofakind said:
Samsung S5 has just started receiving the lollipop update. So hopefully our Tab S gets it very soon.
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Phones are very different from tablets. Orders of magnitude difference in units sold.
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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Phones are very different from tablets. Orders of magnitude difference in units sold.
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My point being too that was that, Samsung have released the final version of their lollipop update. So in terms of major software tweaks, that's done . If that makes sense lol
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Buckster76 said:
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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That's true. But I'd rather have an update that improves my device rather than slowing it down.
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Buckster76 said:
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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Honestly I think ios users have the opposite problem . Apple keeps trying to update their old devices to the latest ios. The iPad 2 has no business running ios 8. Making ios 8 run on old devices just make them slow and piss people off and then they accuse Apple of making their device slow on purpose to force them to upgrade. Of course if Apple does not support old hardware then it's "abandoning" them.
But yeah no excuse for not having lollipop on the flag ship device already . It's not like Google just dropped lollipop on people out of the blue. you had betas and previews. If cyanogenmod, which as far as I know is not a multi billion dollar conglomerate, can support a bunch of devices then so can Samsung.
Buckster76 said:
this is one area I find VERY VERY frustrating with Android
I find the way IOS OS updates are released far more satisfying. By the time we get Lollipop (I have a Note 3 and Tab S 10.5) - it'll prob be old hat. I'm also fed up with having apps now that look, feel etc like Lollipop and a core OS that does not.
we have 2 IPADs as well in the family in case you wonder about my IOS comment - it gets released - everyone (just about) can download and install it - great
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I do also have note 3 and tab s. I installed the leaked lolipop for note 3 and I can say that lolipop is worth waiting a few more months. It's nice, clean, works well. Maybe lolipop will resolve some of our problems with tab s. My guess is that will be no lolipop update till begening of march for the tab S because we do jot have any leaked firmware for exynox yet.
I hope it never gets it. Lolly pop ruined my nexus 10, broke WiFi and sent me shopping for a new tablet. Loving my tab s running 4.4.
2 q 2015
according to this article 2 quarter 2015
://technosamigos.com/samsung-android-5-0-lollipop-update/
Hopefully xposed will become working on art before getting lollipop :good:
regards
LTE edition is on Q2, means after April, this is long wait!
By the way, I am waiting for my Note 4 as well.
What to do, just wait wait wait...
Our tablets still work fine, and the rest of the community can catch up, so let's not be so first world about it.
Goog news for Tab S Owners? Reliable source?
Acording to jbgnews, which I had never heard about BTW, lollipop is arriving for Tab S in the next few days or weeks.
i don't know nothing about the source, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
I don´t post the link 'cause I don't have 10 posts yet. So I can't
Expressinho said:
Acording to jbgnews, which I had never heard about BTW, lollipop is arriving for Tab S in the next few days or weeks.
i don't know nothing about the source, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
I don´t post the link 'cause I don't have 10 posts yet. So I can't
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http://www.jbgnews.com/2015/01/sams...oid-lollipop-5-0-to-roll-out-soon/021215.html
Expressinho said:
Acording to jbgnews, which I had never heard about BTW, lollipop is arriving for Tab S in the next few days or weeks.
i don't know nothing about the source, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
I don´t post the link 'cause I don't have 10 posts yet. So I can't
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Hmm "upcoming days or few weeks"
They have absolutely no idea of when it's coming... That's a bs article.
there are any lollipop rom for note 3 neo duos
Samsung don't confirm any update yet for this device and we still on android 4.3
I can't find any custom rom ?!!!!!!!
Anyone can help me to find custom rom .... Thanks :angel:
There is very few interest in the N3N, there is even less interest in the Duos version. I think your only bet is that Sammy releases the Lollipop sometime this summer. There were rumors that the Lollipop is in testing phase and will be released in June. Knowing Samsung, that would probably mean sometime in August
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There is very few interest in the N3N, there is even less interest in the Duos version. I think your only bet is that Sammy releases the Lollipop sometime this summer. There were rumors that the Lollipop is in testing phase and will be released in June. Knowing Samsung, that would probably mean sometime in August
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I agree with that
I've contacted samsung live chat agent and he told me that he is not sure if N3N would get the lollipop update or not
Not every heard/seen should be believed
legoboy said:
I agree with that
I've contacted samsung live chat agent and he told me that he is not sure if N3N would get the lollipop update or not
Not every heard/seen should be believed
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To be fair, the person who confirmed the L update was from Samsung France (as far as I remember), so it should be real. But we have seen other manufacturers confirming updates and then dropping them because "it wasn't feasible" (HTC did that for the original One)
RecklessTurtle said:
To be fair, the person who confirmed the L update was from Samsung France (as far as I remember), so it should be real. But we have seen other manufacturers confirming updates and then dropping them because "it wasn't feasible" (HTC did that for the original One)
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Many websites said different times such as
April-May
June-July
Q2 2015 (April-June-July)
Which of them should be believed??
And I became hopeless
And I have known that Samsung France have said that N3N would get the lollipop update and that Samsung Netherlands confirmed that.
So why did it take so long??
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So why did it take so long??
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Because updates generate no revenue for the manufacturers, except Apple, because they manage to add "Value added services" to their SW updates, for instance Apple Pay, Apple Music etc. They add stuff that the user would like to pay extra. In case of Samsung, all services they tried failed miserably. Therefore, why would they spend the effort to deliver an update that'd only increase the lifespan of a product that they already sold? You might say "customer satisfaction" but let's be honest, SW updates is never the first priority of any customer. I bet 99% of Android users don't even know at which version they are (KK, JB, L)...
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Because updates generate no revenue for the manufacturers, except Apple, because they manage to add "Value added services" to their SW updates, for instance Apple Pay, Apple Music etc. They add stuff that the user would like to pay extra. In case of Samsung, all services they tried failed miserably. Therefore, why would they spend the effort to deliver an update that'd only increase the lifespan of a product that they already sold? You might say "customer satisfaction" but let's be honest, SW updates is never the first priority of any customer. I bet 99% of Android users don't even know at which version they are (KK, JB, L)...
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I agree ☺
And thanks for your information.
I recently got the a520f after a few years with the iPhone. I was happy enough but then released there is 2 roms, 1 in alpha and another which is abandoned then noticed the updates from Samsung are sparse at best.
I'm unlocked in UK and stuck on 6.0.1, they "used" to say unlocked got updates first, noticed the way I said "used to" because carriers seem to be releasing 7.0 before unlocked, and while on the point 7.0 at this stage when Oreo will soon be released, even bringing the phone out with 7.0 would have been slow when 7.1 was available.
I am thinking I have made the wrong decision with the a520, Samsung are slow with updates anyway yes but the a520 seems to be at the bottom of Samsungs list of priorities. Last years a510 even has 7 for a while now.
hi !
Yes ,all people here want updates with another android version but i think that the most important thing is to enjoy with this phone :
it's a device with MM6 have enought power for to play game , it have the best super amoled screen ,it have a fabulous battery life ! , a fingerprints and "near" 20 differents sensors ,he have a good modem and hardware for 4G , this MM + sansung adds have all useful functions and parameters ....and the middle economic mode is impressive for the battery life...
The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.
Nah, Samsung kinda sucks. I mean they couldnt make a proper working fingerprint sensor on stock MM, had to install nougat for the bloody thing to work.
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The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.
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How does Apple cope then?
That's Samsung decision to release update or not, as user we can wait for it or complaints to Samsung
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It has nothing to do with "the server not able to cope" or anything. There are a few reasons building up to the devices being in literally the bottom of the pile as you put it:
1) Samsung has heavily skinned Android with a lot of added features, which all take a while to port to a new verison.
2) Costs of development, Q/A testing and everything else that needs to be done before the update gets released public (not doing the update obviously means a lot of saved money)
3) Most people don't care about updates or are even annoyed by them and think they are something evil. That's excluding heavy updates to a new version which slow down the phone by a large margin with features you could have lived without (Apple are doing this), those updates really are evil. Due to the lack of updates though, this rarely happens on Android in all fairness.
4) It's a mid range price device
5) Samsung's policy of not wanting to update the phones too much anyway so the user buys a new one
The phone is probably going to be updated to 7.0 within the next month or two. I doubt extremely it will get updated to 8.0.
This is unacceptable for a phone that has come out for 2017, to not got an update of an OS to a version that is released in 2017 just a little over an year later. We should definetly not put up with it and complain to Samsung however, not on XDA.
We should make sure OEM's take note that we want our phones updated to new Android versions fast for at least a few years, just like iOS devices. And on top of complaining, we should vote with our wallets also. That gets the chain moving.
aoyanagi said:
The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.
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That is tackled in another way. Your phone randomly receive updates in batch.
Yes you can get an update if you manually go into settings and download updates.
But again it is automatically provided in random batches.
Samsung is late at updates because they have a large number of models.
Not like Iphone that only support 3 models of past I think.
Samsung also needs to provide stable updates which take a lot of testing.
Again it depends on your country and provider when the start rolling updates.
By the way A5 got certified for oreo.
https://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-results?keywords=A520f
It has Oreo in Russia now
https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series-2017/how-to/sm-a520f-oreo-russia-t3779287
Good news guys Looks like Google is giving us treats for the holiday season.
https://www.gsmarena.com/android_wear_devices_to_get_oreo_update_starting_today-news-28614.php
I'm guessing that every watch that is supported by AW2.0 will also be getting Oreo update. Yes, original Huawei watch is already beyond the 2 year support period but i don't think that the same rules goes for watches like it's usually the case with phones. Do you think original HW will be getting Oreo? I mean, we got new security update some days ago so it's still supported
I hope so,waiting for the update in a month.
In comments on articles about this, people have been reporting even the original Moto 360 is already getting this. I'm not sure the relationship between android version and android wear code but maybe it's pretty easy to merge the Oreo updates with the manufacturer's code now that they are on AW 2.0.
jdock said:
In comments on articles about this, people have been reporting even the original Moto 360 is already getting this. I'm not sure the relationship between android version and android wear code but maybe it's pretty easy to merge the Oreo updates with the manufacturer's code now that they are on AW 2.0.
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The original moto 360 never even made it to android wear 2.0, so I highly doubt it is getting this update.
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Carmanen said:
Good news guys Looks like Google is giving us treats for the holiday season.
https://www.gsmarena.com/android_wear_devices_to_get_oreo_update_starting_today-news-28614.php
I'm guessing that every watch that is supported by AW2.0 will also be getting Oreo update. Yes, original Huawei watch is already beyond the 2 year support period but i don't think that the same rules goes for watches like it's usually the case with phones. Do you think original HW will be getting Oreo? I mean, we got new security update some days ago so it's still supported
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The fact that we got a security update doesn't mean much. There were some pretty high profile vulnerabilities that needed patching (KRACK, etc.).
TheSt33v said:
The original moto 360 never even made it to android wear 2.0, so I highly doubt it is getting this update.
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Oh sheesh... so that particular comment was meant as a joke that went right over my head!
How can i return to the stock rom and unroot the device? Or just to return to the stock with the ota updates. Thanks im on the negalite now...
vuoshino said:
How can i return to the stock rom and unroot the device? Or just to return to the stock with the ota updates. Thanks im on the negalite now...
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Follow this video: https://youtu.be/qVrBEmi35-E
Files are on his server.
I accidentally installed AW 1.4 but received updates to update so now I'm on AW 2.6 A7.1.1 october patch
Don't expect it for this device.
Just read on an Android Wear g+ community that it is only coming for the Huawei watch 2.
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Yep we're screwed... Here's the official list
jeston said:
Yep we're screwed... Here's the official list
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That sucks :/ I kinda knew this would happen eventhough i was optimistic and hopeful that Huawei Watch still gets it. So, it's finally the end of software support for our beloved original HW **** you, you ugly ass HW2!
Can someone explain this End Of Life situation though...? The Huawei Watch is STILL on sale via Huawei's direct website! Surely they shouldn't be selling a watch without providing the software support seriously!? I thought the deal was 2 years after the device goes on sale or 18 months after it stops being on sale (whichever is longer).
I think this statement needs to be reiterated to Huawei and Google.
Also I bought the watch thinking the support life would be alot longer than a phone... People don't buy +£200 watches for only 2 years usage.
This "policy" may have just made me decide that I'm not interested in Android Wear anymore... Even my Pixel 2 will have a longer shelf life!
EOL is not here yet, just no Oreo. This is near the bottom of the article.
Some of the watches dropped from support include the ASUS ZenWatch 2 and 3, the original Fossil Q Founder, the LG G Watch R/Urbane/Urbane LTE, the second-gen Moto 360 and 360 Sport, and the original Huawei Watch. Those watches will continue to get Android Wear updates (like the recent v2.6 update) through the Play Store, but the underlying Android version will be stuck on Nougat.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/12/09/google-announces-android-wear-watches-will-get-oreo-update/
Surely there will be a way to install as a custom Rom?
tboy2000 said:
Surely there will be a way to install as a custom Rom?
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The only one for the HW1 is discontinued. The dev's watch died and Huawei gave him a watch 2. If another dev steps up, yes, but since there was only one and that dev does not plan to continue.
The thing is I only love the look of HV1 watch. Most stylish. There is no other V2 watch out there that comes close.
I have a Huawei Mate 10 running Oreo so it's a shame my watch won't match my phone.
Custom ROMs are our only hope now!
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Custom ROMs are our only hope now!
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Well actually, just staying on wear 2 isn't a bad option, it still works wonderfully.
I agree. The more that Huawei Watch (1) is still officially on sale and is more expensive in stores than Huawei Watch 2.
I've made a post on their Swedish FB-site, here in Sweden it is still actively sold by two of Huawei's recommended resellers advertised at Huawei's site.
Can we figure out if the 18 months after sale claim is valid for Wear as well as regular Android? And was this formulated before or after the launch of the Watch?
I spoke to Huawei Technical Service. They do not have anywhere indicated that they provide support for 18 months from purchase / production. They claim that it depends on Google - not from them. They do not guarantee anything
It's a pity, because I have their P9 Plus smartphone and Watch 1 smartwatch and I think it makes the highest-class flagship.
France is getting a new update with May security patch and a higher changelist number (16124683)
Do you know what's new? Or is it just improvements and security update!
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-tab-s4/firmware/SM-T835/XEF/download/T835XXU3BSF4/276903/
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The latest update is T835UBS3BSG1 with July Security Patch Update
This is [email protected]
In Oz I have a generic Tab S4 and the last security update was December 2018... This is supposed to be updated by Samsung with NO carrier to delay the update...
Seriously, WTF!!! No Pie for me just an old Oreo...
I thought Treble was supposed to stop this stuff from happening...
Why not just flash a PIE Rom? I use all sorts of different Firmware versions to keep me updated xd
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This is [email protected]
In Oz I have a generic Tab S4 and the last security update was December 2018... This is supposed to be updated by Samsung with NO carrier to delay the update...
Seriously, WTF!!! No Pie for me just an old Oreo...
I thought Treble was supposed to stop this stuff from happening...
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Yeah, and yet the Telstra model was updated last month.
I contacted Samsung, same song and dance about "don't know when your device will be updated"...
I thought it was google policy that the current devices were to be updated with security updates ASAP. My security policy is dated December 2018.
Considering this device is out there as a business device this is a major lapse in security as the vulnerabilities haven't been patched on what could, essentially be, a business device. Even if it's not being used by a business, I tend to use this device as a laptop replacement... A lot of personal data can be stored on here and not as secure as my phone...
Considering Samsung is a major player in the smartphone industry, this lapse is unforgivable, my S8 has just been updated to June security update and I don't have half the sensitive stuff I store on my tablet...
Shame on Samsung....
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I contacted Samsung, same song and dance about "don't know when your device will be updated"...
I thought it was google policy that the current devices were to be updated with security updates ASAP. My security policy is dated December 2018.
Considering this device is out there as a business device this is a major lapse in security as the vulnerabilities haven't been patched on what could, essentially be, a business device. Even if it's not being used by a business, I tend to use this device as a laptop replacement... A lot of personal data can be stored on here and not as secure as my phone...
Considering Samsung is a major player in the smartphone industry, this lapse is unforgivable, my S8 has just been updated to June security update and I don't have half the sensitive stuff I store on my tablet...
Shame on Samsung....
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If you want to update your tablet, first of all backup all the data in your tablet and then follow this guide to update it with the most up-to-date firmware:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79317687&postcount=3
Samsung pushed a new update to many countries (T835UBS3BSG1) with July Security Patch Update
I am going to download it soon to see if they fixed the UI glitches in the previous update pushed to France XEF
You can check Samsung's official firmware update list, but they don't provide any new information. As you can see, Samsung only provide two types of updates - security and patch fixes and major UI changes. http://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-T835/XEF/doc.html
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You can check Samsung's official firmware update list, but they don't provide any new information. As you can see, Samsung only provide two types of updates - security and patch fixes and major UI changes. http://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-T835/XEF/doc.html
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The SF4 update have many UI scaling issues, especially in the quick settings toggles (missing first row, missing auto brightness slider in landscape mode), I am flashing the new update (SG1) now via Odin and report back
For example
Dirty flashed the update (using Home CSC) without wiping anything
After reboot I got Samsung Experience Services force stop, updated it from Google Play Store and it is working fine now
Auto brightness slider is now showing properly in landscape, no missing toggles, July Security Patch Update
This is what I found now
They just pushed the Australian update about a week ago, it's now on the May security patch...
At least that's better than the 6 month old security patch they gave before but for a premium flagship this is still unacceptable...
People here know how to use ODIN and flash firmware but for the everyday consumer this is something over their heads...
I know that people will argue that this is an easy fix by coming here or doing a google search but seriously, think back to the 1st time you flashed your device. It as a scary thing knowing (or being blissfully unaware) that you could destroy your shiny new toy. Not to mention the amount of people who know how to use their phone but have NO idea how to do anything on the PC other than browse facebook and send emails...
When we buy our devices we buy the security that the OEM will push out updates to protect our lovely devices and when I pay out a small fortune I sorta expect that this will be the case. Especially when it is retailed as a business device.
Security is all...
You buy a cheap $100 tablet from some Chinese company no-one has never heard of you don't expect much more than the device starts up and works...
You buy from a well established company that has a HUGE presence in the market you are buying the security of having the best and latest.
For some markets this is not happening and that is disgraceful...
Rant over....
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They just pushed the Australian update about a week ago, it's now on the May security patch...
At least that's better than the 6 month old security patch they gave before but for a premium flagship this is still unacceptable...
People here know how to use ODIN and flash firmware but for the everyday consumer this is something over their heads...
I know that people will argue that this is an easy fix by coming here or doing a google search but seriously, think back to the 1st time you flashed your device. It as a scary thing knowing (or being blissfully unaware) that you could destroy your shiny new toy. Not to mention the amount of people who know how to use their phone but have NO idea how to do anything on the PC other than browse facebook and send emails...
When we buy our devices we buy the security that the OEM will push out updates to protect our lovely devices and when I pay out a small fortune I sorta expect that this will be the case. Especially when it is retailed as a business device.
Security is all...
You buy a cheap $100 tablet from some Chinese company no-one has never heard of you don't expect much more than the device starts up and works...
You buy from a well established company that has a HUGE presence in the market you are buying the security of having the best and latest.
For some markets this is not happening and that is disgraceful...
Rant over....
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Totally agree, it is silly that Samsung pushing only quarterly security patch updates for their tablets
I have a question about these updates.
My last tablet was the Note 12.2. At that time it was awful if the tablet updated, it broke root and you couldn't get it back. So I'm paranoid about letting anything update. However I let that one sit since 2015 because it crashed I didn't have backup and wanted to someday recover newborn baby hospital pics and first Christmas pics. I've been without a tablet since.
I Get here to research the S4, the last with headphone jack tablet and it seems like you have to update to root. Is this right? I also swear I read that pie breaks a couple of programs on the s4, but I can't find the thread now.
Can someone clue me in since I appear to have fallen off the SOTA curve. Thank you for your help.
Hi all, today I got latest update with November security update. A nice feature has been added: smart view now allows resizing to destination screen ratio.
Did you find anything else?
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What are the limitations of pie over Oreo? Is there a reason not to update?
Just recieved the Update in Germany. All data was deleted!
So Backup your data before installing.
I received the update a few days ago, and since then my tablet doesn't want to fast charge. Anybody has a similar problem?
Not here. I'm on Android 9 (pie) with Nov. 1 security update. I didn't notice any issues. First time I have ever seen Samsung get out a timely security update, it was only a couple of weeks after my Pixel (which is on Android 10).