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Jelly Bean update! But not for us! :(

So the International unlocked version got their Jelly Bean update today. Man! Why doesn't Sammy hire some of these devs on here to speed up the freaking process!!
Edit: Sorry Sammy its not your fault its the freaking carriers!! Bastards!!! thanks Andy!
Edit again: OK Sammy im putting you back in the crap house!!! bastards!!! thanks intub8!
White Hot! GS3.

blame the carriers.

andy2na said:
blame the carriers.
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Its not Sammy...definitely the money grubbing carriers in the US...its pathetic

Oh I see thanks for sharing! Will change OP freaking carriers!!!! Lol.....
White Hot! GS3.

andy2na said:
blame the carriers.
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Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Intub8 said:
Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?

kgbkny said:
Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.

kgbkny said:
Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
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Three leaks? I haven't seen them for download anywhere.
This is getting ridiculous.

just use a custom rom!

scorpion667 said:
All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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And I suppose Apple doesn't care about profit margins?
In all honesty, I can't say I disagree. Apple pretty much gave the carriers the finger by strictly controlling what's included in the updates and their release timeline. My biggest frustration with Android is the complete lack of uniformity when it comes to keeping it up to date. With that being said, I would sooner switch to Windows than iOS.
With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.

scorpion667 said:
All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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Wut? Samsung has slimmer margins than Apple does. By a LONG shot.
Also, Apple doesn't let carriers control updates, but the carriers do significantly control what is going in to each update (primarily in terms of what features are enabled for use when). They still don't have a gold paved road.
That being said, I do wish Samsung would force the carriers to a better update schedule. I wouldn't care if it was consistently a month after the international version. That would be better than what we have now.

andy2na said:
blame the carriers.
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I spoke to an ATT rep on chat and they said that they were the ones holding up the release. Doesn't seem like they care what with the disabling of google wallet as well.

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With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.
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I kinda agree as I did the same with my S1 i9000 : flashed ROMs and kernels onto it on a weekly basis for nearly 1½ year.
Now that I have my S3, I just don't feel like that anymore as I :
- Appreciate the quality and stability of Samsung's releases
- Enjoy using the best camera app there is
- Know that the phone will eventually be updated to an even better release
However, the day I'll be told by Samsung that my S3 will no longer be elligible to upgrades, just watch me go back to my custom ROMs flashing habits! héhéhé
As for the bloatware ... root and any decent file explorer can help you get rid of it!

I thought most people knew by now that only Official Google devices get (somewhat) prompt updates. I didn't buy my SIII based on what it was going to get, I bought it based on what it already had. IMO as long as they update the phone in a relatively timely manner (within 6 months I'd say) then I am content - even then I wouldn't be too upset. I would just flash something myself.

I do the same. Take official firmware and basically make my own custom rom.
That way I have control about what is and isnt done.
I root it..
remove bloatware myself with root explorer (after copying everything I am about to remove to my external sd for safe keeping)
keep copies of the build.prop, framework-res systemui etc.
I modify the systemui for my own icons etc.
Install other modes etc.
As for leaks the only leak I know off on AT&T based is LH1 which I am running.
I am not running the latest lh9 as lh1 has everything that lh9 has but doesnt have nfc screwed up so wallet still works with it.
I am running the lh9 modem.

By the time the S3 will become ineligible for updates, I will have moved on to my next phone. Back in 2011, Google set up an Android update alliance, where many manufacturers and U.S.-based carriers promised that new Android phones would receive timely OS updates for 18 months after launch. The only timely thing about this promise was the death of this alliance. After Jellybean, I give the S3 one more update before Samsung declares it non-upgradeable. It's unfortunate, but that's just the nature of the beast.
I'm well aware that only official Google devices (Nexus) get timely updates. This is the only reason why I held on to my Galaxy Nexus after buying the S3. I was well aware that it'll be a loooooooooong time before the S3 sees an update, so I kept the Nexus to satisfy my cravings for latest Android versions.

http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?

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http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?
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Good find! When the initial Samsung statement regarding the U.S. S3 variants being updated to Jellybean "in the coming months" was issued, it specifically mentioned "all carriers except for Sprint". Although the arrival of the Sprint update may signal that ours are just around the corner, I'm not holding my breath.

I just want to point out that Apple doesn't play by the same ruleset as Android OEM's do when it comes to releasing updates. Part of the original contract with AT&T was to prevent AT&T from having any say in Apple's updates and it kind of just kept going with the other carriers since they wanted the phone to sell so dearly.
Android OEM's have no such stipulation, Nexus devices not counting of course.

Saw on another site that AT&T wont see an update till January.
Of course that is just word of mouth, so take it for what you will.

Lollipop update for Galaxy Tab PRO 8.4

Since this is first samsung device which i own, i dont know which sites to follow for informations.
So i would be thankfull if anyone can say, will this tablet get lollipop treatment.
I dont want to be dissapointed because its new, 3-4 months old tablet.

electrash said:
will this tablet get lollipop treatment.
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Who knows? We don't even know if our devices will get an official 4.4.4 let alone 5.0.
Samsung won't ever give you confirmation of something like an upcoming update as usually their support desks seem to know so little that you may as well ask the man in the moon.
CM12 will bring AOSP Lollipop, but it's still work in progress

hundred_miles_high said:
Who knows? We don't even know if our devices will get an official 4.4.4 let alone 5.0.
Samsung won't ever give you confirmation of something like an upcoming update as usually their support desks seem to know so little that you may as well ask the man in the moon.
CM12 will bring AOSP Lollipop, but it's still work in progress
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So that means no high hope for update. I guess this will be my first and last device from them. Thank you for answer

electrash said:
So that means no high hope for update. I guess this will be my first and last device from them. Thank you for answer
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I wouldn't give up hope just yet (Lollipop hasn't been out for long), but neither would I be holding my breath for an update either.....

Samsung has to integrate TouchWiz and do a lot of quality testing , if they released an unstable or unsecured release of Lollipop it would cause more problems and customers as they have a reputation to keep, if you look at Samsungs line of products maybe only one or two products actually have Lollipop, as they are probably slowly testing feedback and bugreports, if they just recklessly just throw an update to every-device it would cause havoc
If I had to guess I would say sometime next year (probably within the first 3-4 months) this tablet will get a update.

otyg said:
Samsung has to integrate TouchWiz and do a lot of quality testing , if they released an unstable or unsecured release of Lollipop it would cause more problems and customers as they have a reputation to keep,
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This is what they should be doing, but if you look at this years 4.3 Jellybean release for Galaxy S3 they appeared to have done none of it. Also, just read this morning that the Note 4 will skip straight to 5.0.1 - so they're probably not going to waste much time porting many more snapdragon devices to 5.0, which could mean an even longer delay.
Please excuse my cynicism, I've been a Samsung customer for too long....

electrash said:
Since this is first samsung device which i own, i dont know which sites to follow for informations.
So i would be thankfull if anyone can say, will this tablet get lollipop treatment.
I dont want to be dissapointed because its new, 3-4 months old tablet.
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I'm guessing May or June of 2015 for Android 5.x and that will be the last update. I really hope they get Lollipop on the Note 10.1 2014, which is more important to me than my tab pro 8.4.

hundred_miles_high said:
Who knows? We don't even know if our devices will get an official 4.4.4 let alone 5.0.
Samsung won't ever give you confirmation of something like an upcoming update as usually their support desks seem to know so little that you may as well ask the man in the moon.
CM12 will bring AOSP Lollipop, but it's still work in progress
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by using your logic, the galaxy s5 hasnt got 5.0, because it hasnt got 4.4.4 too

timuralaskara said:
by using your logic, the galaxy s5 hasnt got 5.0, because it hasnt got 4.4.4 too
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Say what?
Where did i say that one was dependent on getting the other?
By my logic Samsung haven't confirmed one or the other - not the next incremental revision, let alone the next version.
From past experience they are unlikely to respond fully to enquiries about what updates are due and remain very non commital at the best of times.
pretty straight forward to understand......

Lollipop 5.0.2. just started rolling out to the Tab S series:
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/23/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-8-4-gets-the-lollipop-update/
Hopefully it's not that big a leap to get out the Tab Pro series as well. I don't think the differences were anything radical....

d99x said:
Lollipop 5.0.2. just started rolling out to the Tab S series:
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/23/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-8-4-gets-the-lollipop-update/
Hopefully it's not that big a leap to get out the Tab Pro series as well. I don't think the differences were anything radical....
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I saw on one site that whole pro line will get lollipop 5.0.2 very soon.
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Samsung Lollipop update uncertainties
I was about to buy a Galaxy Tab Pro (3 actually) but this whole Lollipop update thing has given me cold feet. I'm going to stick with iPads. I just don't like the feeling they're withholding OS updates in order to drive new (Galaxy Tab S2) hardware sales. I always felt that was happening with Windows and PC hardware vendors and I ended up buying a Mac because of it (and never looked back).
Good luck guys and may all your Lollipops be as fruity as an Apple.

simty said:
I was about to buy a Galaxy Tab Pro (3 actually) but this whole Lollipop update thing has given me cold feet. I'm going to stick with iPads. I just don't like the feeling they're withholding OS updates in order to drive new (Galaxy Tab S2) hardware sales. I always felt that was happening with Windows and PC hardware vendors and I ended up buying a Mac because of it (and never looked back).
Good luck guys and may all your Lollipops be as fruity as an Apple.
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Well hello mr apple troll. You do realise ios updates can take ages also? having owned 5 ios devices from iphone 1 to ipad 1 to ipad air 2 etc. Apple also hold update releases until the next new product generally "the best thing yet since.." enjoy your limited ios device. For me it's Android

Definitely not a troll !
Sayid_Jarah said:
Well hello mr apple troll. You do realise ios updates can take ages also? having owned 5 ios devices from iphone 1 to ipad 1 to ipad air 2 etc. Apple also hold update releases until the next new product generally "the best thing yet since.." enjoy your limited ios device. For me it's Android
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I work for a Google school and I think that's just about the biggest vote of platform confidence anyone can give. We do need at least one new Android tablet to test Appinventor Apps and we will buy. However, KitKat has been a frustration. Not being able to capture direct to MicroSD for example is unforgivable in the modern OS era. Lollipop promises to fix a great many KitKat issues and I think the HARDWARE partners like Samsung have a responsibility to get the customer base past KitKat ASAP.
I do not know what you mean when you say: "Apple holds update releases". But if you are suggesting that Apple only applies software updates to ONE generation of hardware you are totally wrong. I have an iPad 2 which has now had 5 different iOS iterations from iOS4 to iOS8 and is now possibly 3x better than the already excellent device I originally purchased. I've never had to even wait extra time because it's an older device. I want this for Android as well! and I reserve the right to put as much pressure as I can to make the hardware vendors give it to us. Let's not forget the damage platform fragmentation does to the Android developer community. It's in the best long-term interests of all hardware partners to keep as many of us as possible on the newest version of Android but they are not walking the walk. We need to encourage them.
My intentions are good, peace out.

simty said:
I was about to buy a Galaxy Tab Pro (3 actually) but this whole Lollipop update thing has given me cold feet. I'm going to stick with iPads. I just don't like the feeling they're withholding OS updates in order to drive new (Galaxy Tab S2) hardware sales. I always felt that was happening with Windows and PC hardware vendors and I ended up buying a Mac because of it (and never looked back).
Good luck guys and may all your Lollipops be as fruity as an Apple.
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Funny that I can't update my GFs macbook past osx 10.7 because 'it's too old' when it more than meets requirements.
No need to shill here.

Give me a break!
Swizzy88 said:
Funny that I can't update my GFs macbook past osx 10.7 because 'it's too old' when it more than meets requirements.
No need to shill here.
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Well, the youngest that MacBook could possibly be is October 2008! Unfortunately it's a 32bit machine which is just a different technology generation. It is a bit of bad luck though. I have a MacBook Pro from Mid 2007 that's running the very latest Yosemite OS just fine. It's pretty amazing when an 8 year old computer just keeps getting better and better for free. AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. Screenshots of the system profile can be posted if you have doubts.

I don't know why people are trying to argue this, it's a simple fact that Apple are just better in updates than Samsung will ever be. The main reason for it is that it's easy for Apple to support since they make their own hardware and software that doesn't run on thousands of devices like Android. Samsung should still try to do a better job at updating. I don't like how they didn't even say whether the Tab Pros will get Lollipop or not, even though they were released only a few months before the Tab Ss (which did get Lollipop) and are just as powerful (they use the same chips).
Regardless I myself am gonna flash CM12 on my Pro 8.4 because I don't know if Samsung ever intend on giving us the update we deserve and regardless I am tired of TouchWiz.

Well one thing Android will have that Apple never will, is Android IS OPEN SOURCE and also Samsung is pretty good in releasing the source code for its products and kernels, meaning even if they don't release an update for a specific device it can still be supported by 3rd party firmwares or if you want to compile it yourself. - let's see someone do that with Apple.
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception.do
You don't think Apple has IOS 8 or 9 in the works? if it was Open Source like Android then Apple users would be doing the same thing begging for the update, but since Apple is closed source you don't hear about it until they tell you.
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Also I still think the Tab Pro series will still get an update , I think Samsung owes at least one major version update being it was released at nearly the same time as the Tab S - I am suspecting it will be next in line for the lollipop update - considering its the Pro series line it might need more security and testing then the S series does.

lollipop update for tab pro.
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-1-Lollipop-Update-is-coming-by-Early-Q3-2015

simty said:
I Not being able to capture direct to MicroSD for example is unforgivable in the modern OS era. Lollipop promises to fix a great many KitKat issues and I think the HARDWARE partners like Samsung have a responsibility to get the customer base past KitKat ASAP.
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3rd party apps not being able to write to the SD card is a deliberate security decision. However, it is easily overridden by an app from the Play Store. Search for "sdfix". BTW, it is also needed in lollipop so waiting for 5.1.1 won't help.

Is Verizon pushing lollipop yet?

I have seen articles where two people got the update. Some threads show people have it...My phone says i'm up to date. Can I get the official word?
These are reasons Apple is better than Android. They release an update and within a week 80+% of devices in the wild have taken the update. My two year contracts be up on Droid's before I get updated. Really sucks. Not sure why Google can't get the power over the carriers like Apple has.

EVOme said:
I have seen articles where two people got the update. Some threads show people have it...My phone says i'm up to date. Can I get the official word?
These are reasons Apple is better than Android. They release an update and within a week 80+% of devices in the wild have taken the update. My two year contracts be up on Droid's before I get updated. Really sucks. Not sure why Google can't get the power over the carriers like Apple has.
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Let's not start the Apple vs Android thing here but know that Verizon controls it, not Google (nor does Apple control Google..).
I duno if Verizon released the update officially but if they did, it should show on their website. Also, it's usually waves so one guy might get the update and you will the next day.

BWolf56 said:
Let's not start the Apple vs Android thing here but know that Verizon controls it, not Google (nor does Apple control Google..).
I duno if Verizon released the update officially but if they did, it should show on their website. Also, it's usually waves so one guy might get the update and you will the next day.
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I'm starting it just sucks is all. Not comparing devices. Makes no sense I'm asking for the latest OS on a device that will be replaced by a newer model in a couple months. You blame Verizon, so I ask how is it that Apple is able to get OS' pushed to their devices the day they release to the public, but Google has a year plus fight to get a release pushed down. Hell, they released 5.1 and I bet less than 50% of their devices in the wild have 5.0

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I'm starting it just sucks is all. Not comparing devices. Makes no sense I'm asking for the latest OS on a device that will be replaced by a newer model in a couple months. You blame Verizon, so I ask how is it that Apple is able to get OS' pushed to their devices the day they release to the public, but Google has a year plus fight to get a release pushed down. Hell, they released 5.1 and I bet less than 50% of their devices in the wild have 5.0
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Ok, you do realize that Android is on a crazy amount of different device from different company? The OS needs to be update/adapted to every single variant there is = Takes time! Apple has to deal with their products only, which is much easier. So yeah, therefore pushing updates faster across all Iphones.
Now I do agree with you that it sucks to wait for updates longer than others but you phone is working right, isn't it? And it won't become bad cause a new model was released. Afaik, that new model will be running the same version of android as your device when it gets updated (which should be quite soon if it's not up already).
If you really want instant updates, grab a Nexus, which is Google's line. You'd get the updates just as fast as Iphones get theirs. Oh and it never takes a year for Google to release updates? Unless it's on a very very old device.

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Ok, you do realize that Android is on a crazy amount of different device from different company? The OS needs to be update/adapted to every single variant there is = Takes time! Apple has to deal with their products only, which is much easier. So yeah, therefore pushing updates faster across all Iphones.
Now I do agree with you that it sucks to wait for updates longer than others but you phone is working right, isn't it? And it won't become bad cause a new model was released. Afaik, that new model will be running the same version of android as your device when it gets updated (which should be quite soon if it's not up already).
If you really want instant updates, grab a Nexus, which is Google's line. You'd get the updates just as fast as Iphones get theirs. Oh and it never takes a year for Google to release updates? Unless it's on a very very old device.
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Makes sense...I buy new phones as soon as they come out, so the G3s days are numbered, so is my N4.

Why is this phone so slow to receive updates?

I recently got the a520f after a few years with the iPhone. I was happy enough but then released there is 2 roms, 1 in alpha and another which is abandoned then noticed the updates from Samsung are sparse at best.
I'm unlocked in UK and stuck on 6.0.1, they "used" to say unlocked got updates first, noticed the way I said "used to" because carriers seem to be releasing 7.0 before unlocked, and while on the point 7.0 at this stage when Oreo will soon be released, even bringing the phone out with 7.0 would have been slow when 7.1 was available.
I am thinking I have made the wrong decision with the a520, Samsung are slow with updates anyway yes but the a520 seems to be at the bottom of Samsungs list of priorities. Last years a510 even has 7 for a while now.

hi !
Yes ,all people here want updates with another android version but i think that the most important thing is to enjoy with this phone :
it's a device with MM6 have enought power for to play game , it have the best super amoled screen ,it have a fabulous battery life ! , a fingerprints and "near" 20 differents sensors ,he have a good modem and hardware for 4G , this MM + sansung adds have all useful functions and parameters ....and the middle economic mode is impressive for the battery life...

The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.

Nah, Samsung kinda sucks. I mean they couldnt make a proper working fingerprint sensor on stock MM, had to install nougat for the bloody thing to work.

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The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.
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How does Apple cope then?

That's Samsung decision to release update or not, as user we can wait for it or complaints to Samsung
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It has nothing to do with "the server not able to cope" or anything. There are a few reasons building up to the devices being in literally the bottom of the pile as you put it:
1) Samsung has heavily skinned Android with a lot of added features, which all take a while to port to a new verison.
2) Costs of development, Q/A testing and everything else that needs to be done before the update gets released public (not doing the update obviously means a lot of saved money)
3) Most people don't care about updates or are even annoyed by them and think they are something evil. That's excluding heavy updates to a new version which slow down the phone by a large margin with features you could have lived without (Apple are doing this), those updates really are evil. Due to the lack of updates though, this rarely happens on Android in all fairness.
4) It's a mid range price device
5) Samsung's policy of not wanting to update the phones too much anyway so the user buys a new one
The phone is probably going to be updated to 7.0 within the next month or two. I doubt extremely it will get updated to 8.0.
This is unacceptable for a phone that has come out for 2017, to not got an update of an OS to a version that is released in 2017 just a little over an year later. We should definetly not put up with it and complain to Samsung however, not on XDA.
We should make sure OEM's take note that we want our phones updated to new Android versions fast for at least a few years, just like iOS devices. And on top of complaining, we should vote with our wallets also. That gets the chain moving.

aoyanagi said:
The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.
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That is tackled in another way. Your phone randomly receive updates in batch.
Yes you can get an update if you manually go into settings and download updates.
But again it is automatically provided in random batches.
Samsung is late at updates because they have a large number of models.
Not like Iphone that only support 3 models of past I think.
Samsung also needs to provide stable updates which take a lot of testing.
Again it depends on your country and provider when the start rolling updates.
By the way A5 got certified for oreo.
https://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-results?keywords=A520f

It has Oreo in Russia now
https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series-2017/how-to/sm-a520f-oreo-russia-t3779287

Oreo update starts rolling out today!

Good news guys Looks like Google is giving us treats for the holiday season.
https://www.gsmarena.com/android_wear_devices_to_get_oreo_update_starting_today-news-28614.php
I'm guessing that every watch that is supported by AW2.0 will also be getting Oreo update. Yes, original Huawei watch is already beyond the 2 year support period but i don't think that the same rules goes for watches like it's usually the case with phones. Do you think original HW will be getting Oreo? I mean, we got new security update some days ago so it's still supported

I hope so,waiting for the update in a month.

In comments on articles about this, people have been reporting even the original Moto 360 is already getting this. I'm not sure the relationship between android version and android wear code but maybe it's pretty easy to merge the Oreo updates with the manufacturer's code now that they are on AW 2.0.

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In comments on articles about this, people have been reporting even the original Moto 360 is already getting this. I'm not sure the relationship between android version and android wear code but maybe it's pretty easy to merge the Oreo updates with the manufacturer's code now that they are on AW 2.0.
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The original moto 360 never even made it to android wear 2.0, so I highly doubt it is getting this update.
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Carmanen said:
Good news guys Looks like Google is giving us treats for the holiday season.
https://www.gsmarena.com/android_wear_devices_to_get_oreo_update_starting_today-news-28614.php
I'm guessing that every watch that is supported by AW2.0 will also be getting Oreo update. Yes, original Huawei watch is already beyond the 2 year support period but i don't think that the same rules goes for watches like it's usually the case with phones. Do you think original HW will be getting Oreo? I mean, we got new security update some days ago so it's still supported
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The fact that we got a security update doesn't mean much. There were some pretty high profile vulnerabilities that needed patching (KRACK, etc.).

TheSt33v said:
The original moto 360 never even made it to android wear 2.0, so I highly doubt it is getting this update.
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Oh sheesh... so that particular comment was meant as a joke that went right over my head!

How can i return to the stock rom and unroot the device? Or just to return to the stock with the ota updates. Thanks im on the negalite now...

vuoshino said:
How can i return to the stock rom and unroot the device? Or just to return to the stock with the ota updates. Thanks im on the negalite now...
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Follow this video: https://youtu.be/qVrBEmi35-E
Files are on his server.
I accidentally installed AW 1.4 but received updates to update so now I'm on AW 2.6 A7.1.1 october patch

Don't expect it for this device.
Just read on an Android Wear g+ community that it is only coming for the Huawei watch 2.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL

Yep we're screwed... Here's the official list

jeston said:
Yep we're screwed... Here's the official list
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That sucks :/ I kinda knew this would happen eventhough i was optimistic and hopeful that Huawei Watch still gets it. So, it's finally the end of software support for our beloved original HW **** you, you ugly ass HW2!

Can someone explain this End Of Life situation though...? The Huawei Watch is STILL on sale via Huawei's direct website! Surely they shouldn't be selling a watch without providing the software support seriously!? I thought the deal was 2 years after the device goes on sale or 18 months after it stops being on sale (whichever is longer).
I think this statement needs to be reiterated to Huawei and Google.
Also I bought the watch thinking the support life would be alot longer than a phone... People don't buy +£200 watches for only 2 years usage.
This "policy" may have just made me decide that I'm not interested in Android Wear anymore... Even my Pixel 2 will have a longer shelf life!

EOL is not here yet, just no Oreo. This is near the bottom of the article.
Some of the watches dropped from support include the ASUS ZenWatch 2 and 3, the original Fossil Q Founder, the LG G Watch R/Urbane/Urbane LTE, the second-gen Moto 360 and 360 Sport, and the original Huawei Watch. Those watches will continue to get Android Wear updates (like the recent v2.6 update) through the Play Store, but the underlying Android version will be stuck on Nougat.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/12/09/google-announces-android-wear-watches-will-get-oreo-update/

Surely there will be a way to install as a custom Rom?

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Surely there will be a way to install as a custom Rom?
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The only one for the HW1 is discontinued. The dev's watch died and Huawei gave him a watch 2. If another dev steps up, yes, but since there was only one and that dev does not plan to continue.

The thing is I only love the look of HV1 watch. Most stylish. There is no other V2 watch out there that comes close.
I have a Huawei Mate 10 running Oreo so it's a shame my watch won't match my phone.

Custom ROMs are our only hope now!

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Custom ROMs are our only hope now!
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Well actually, just staying on wear 2 isn't a bad option, it still works wonderfully.

I agree. The more that Huawei Watch (1) is still officially on sale and is more expensive in stores than Huawei Watch 2.

I've made a post on their Swedish FB-site, here in Sweden it is still actively sold by two of Huawei's recommended resellers advertised at Huawei's site.
Can we figure out if the 18 months after sale claim is valid for Wear as well as regular Android? And was this formulated before or after the launch of the Watch?

I spoke to Huawei Technical Service. They do not have anywhere indicated that they provide support for 18 months from purchase / production. They claim that it depends on Google - not from them. They do not guarantee anything
It's a pity, because I have their P9 Plus smartphone and Watch 1 smartwatch and I think it makes the highest-class flagship.