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In this XDA TV video, we put the Honor 8X to the ultimate camera test. We compared it to other recent phones from Honor, tested the video capabilities, selfie mode, slow-mo, and everything else you could think of.
Article: The Honor 8X Camera Test
In short, It was concluded by the folks over dxomark that :
》 Galaxy A50 has excellent dynamic range which is on par with other flagships or even better.
》Video recording too was great.
》 Bokeh mode is also excellent.
》 Needs improvement in lowlight & details department.
》It nearly ties with the score of previous years flagships like Nokia 8 sirocco, Sony XZ premium, Iphone 7 etc.
NOTE :- Nightmode wasn't taken into consideration during their testing & neither was super steady mode avaialable as the testing was done prior to June update else the DxoMark would've gone up considerably as seen with the poco f1 (91) as the A50 also scored much better in hdr mode, bokeh mode etc than poco f1 too, obviously.
Take a deeper dive at full review on DxoMark :
https://www.dxomark.com/samsung-galaxy-a50-camera-review/
While waiting for our phones to arrive, lets post the reviews here:
Google Pixel 6 Pro vs iPhone 13 Pro Max - Camera Test Comparison
per above review, P6P is neck to neck with 13Pro Max
Google Pixel 6 vs Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra - Camera Test Comparison
per above review, P6P and S21U are comparable
I'm honestly a little worried about the SuperSaf camera review. It seems like this may even be a step back from the 5? I didn't have one, but I have a Oneplus 8 Pro and some of these look worse than what I have. Any thoughts?
No macro camera, no lidar for depth. Low light looks questionable
https://mashable.com/review/google-pixel-6-pro-review
Google Pixel 6 Pro vs iPhone 13 Pro Max – ULTIMATE Camera Comparison!ZoneofTech review
P6P is the winner with 17 points vs 13 Pro max with 13 points
xgerryx said:
I'm honestly a little worried about the SuperSaf camera review. It seems like this may even be a step back from the 5? I didn't have one, but I have a Oneplus 8 Pro and some of these look worse than what I have. Any thoughts?
No macro camera, no lidar for depth. Low light looks questionable
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this may help macro probably can be improved with fw update
Seeing the same thing on Mrwhosetheboss. Majorly disappointing.
what videos are you guys watching?
The 6p seems to hold up well with the iPhone 13pro max
Short Circuit channel showing how dark the screen is at max brightness compared to the iphone 13 (which I have no interest in), also doesn't look good to me. The speakers also sound way worse it seems. The more I see of this the more this feels like the pro should have started at $700 and not $900. I ordered from best Buy and I can still cancel it, but I don't know what to do.
I don't know about you, but for me personally, Pixel 6 Pro picture quality looks quite good. I'm pretty sure it'll be better than what I currently have i.e. Pixel 3. It still takes good picture.
SuperSaf style camera comparison.
Mrwhosetheboss
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Short Circuit channel showing how dark the screen is at max brightness compared to the iphone 13 (which I have no interest in), also doesn't look good to me. The speakers also sound way worse it seems. The more I see of this the more this feels like the pro should have started at $700 and not $900. I ordered from best Buy and I can still cancel it, but I don't know what to do.
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I don't know, almost every review I've read or watched so far place the 6 Pro above the S21 Ultra AND the iphone 13 Pro.
We'll see for ourselves soon enough though.
Watching the Android Central review now and they are using the telephoto as the macro lens and it actually looks really good, so maybe that's why there is no dedicated macro camera. I'm going to watch as many as I can as it seems different people are using this phone in different ways. The bottom line on the video seems to be not great though regardless of who is reviewing it.
Also more confirmation the screen isn't bright enough outside.
For info - from the BBC website. This is about Magic Eraser, de-Blurring and more.
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I don't know, almost every review I've read or watched so far place the 6 Pro above the S21 Ultra AND the iphone 13 Pro.
We'll see for ourselves soon enough though.
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Any examples?
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For info - from the BBC website. This is about Magic Eraser, de-Blurring and more.
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Great, informative, focused, very quick review of certain aspects. Thanks for sharing!
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Any examples?
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Google Pixel 6 Pro review: Magically erasing Pixels' past
One year later, the Pixel 6 Pro is a better phone than ever.
www.androidcentral.com
I'm still reading/watching other ones.
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There aren't any. I watched 6 or 7 videos all the way through. At best the Pixel is on par with the iphone in picture, worse in some areas, better in others, and objectively worse across the board in video.
Considering I will never own an iphone I'm more interested in how it compares to my OP8 pro, which I doubt I'll find a video on.
Also keep in mind Google is comparing to a mid range budget phone in the 5....so this "jump" is a jump for THAT phone, not compared to others in a lot of cases.
9 to 5 Google review. They like it.
This I like the best when it comes to Pixel 6 review. It seems like most of the reviewer missed the macro capability of Pixel 6 Pro zoom lens. Which IMO looks way better than iPhone 13 Pro/Max.
shame Google missed the boat on macro mode not being as good as Samsung or Apple! I use macro more then portrait mode
As per the title! Lost my phone a couple of days ago, had a mate 20x 5g
Back on my old mi max 3 now but should I reorder or is there anything else around?
Needs to be the same size or bigger with 5g dual Sim
I'm not asking for much right
Current UK used price with 2 year warranty is around 300 GBP
There is nothing the same size or bigger that I can find and definitely not 5G/Dual Sim. Best bet is to just buy another one. With manufacturers trying (maybe in vain) to push foldable phones it might be a while before we see another 7" standard phone.
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As per the title! Lost my phone a couple of days ago, had a mate 20x 5g
Back on my old mi max 3 now but should I reorder or is there anything else around?
Needs to be the same size or bigger with 5g dual Sim
I'm not asking for much right
Current UK used price with 2 year warranty is around 300 GBP
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If I were you I'd get the note 20 ultra. Its fast, has a big screen and has better resolution and specs than the 20x.
The 20x is a laggard now. There hasnt been any sec updates since 2020 and will never have one again.
The gravy train stopped running dude. Trust me, you dont want to get a mate 20x going forward into 2022
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If I were you I'd get the note 20 ultra. Its fast, has a big screen and has better resolution and specs than the 20x.
The 20x is a laggard now. There hasnt been any sec updates since 2020 and will never have one again.
The gravy train stopped running dude. Trust me, you dont want to get a mate 20x going forward into 2022
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I agree, but I am looking at a new phone as well and the price difference between the 18 month old Note20 Ultra and the brand new S22 Ultra is relatively small second hand, so I am leaning more towards the S22 Ultra.
It's obviously a lot more money than the Mate 20 X but technology has moved on and the Mate 20 X is now 3.5 years old.
In the Netherlands I can get a new S22 Ultra for €850, a used Note20 Ultra for €650 and a used Mate 20 x or Mate 20 x 5G will still cost me €350 to €400.
There is nothing like this on the market, trust me I've looked. I just got one. It's a rare phone and won't work on CDMA providers. There is no phone of this size, it's the only one with this wide of a screen. The other ones are all the same width, just taller, which is useless. I need it wider for reading, that's the whole point of a bigger display. But all the big phones have the same width as the smaller ones.
I got rid of the Note 20 because it was the same size as my V30, just taller and heavier. Useless for me. Also, this doesn't support MicroSD. I had to get the phone to be sure. It only supports NM cards, which is the same size as a sim card, and it's only available up to 256GB, so you can't get more than 512GB on this device including an NM card, if you have a 256GB internal.
As of now, nothing that I want exists on the market.
xxxxxxx This is not a slow phone. Other phones are faster, but the whole point of this phone is the form factor, and this is still one of the fastest phones on the market.
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There is nothing like this on the market, trust me I've looked. I just got one. It's a rare phone and won't work on CDMA providers. There is no phone of this size, it's the only one with this wide of a screen. The other ones are all the same width, just taller, which is useless. I need it wider for reading, that's the whole point of a bigger display. But all the big phones have the same width as the smaller ones.
I got rid of the Note 20 because it was the same size as my V30, just taller and heavier. Useless for me. Also, this doesn't support MicroSD. I had to get the phone to be sure. It only supports NM cards, which is the same size as a sim card, and it's only available up to 256GB, so you can't get more than 512GB on this device including an NM card, if you have a 256GB internal.
As of now, nothing that I want exists on the market.
xxxxxxx This is not a slow phone. Other phones are faster, but the whole point of this phone is the form factor, and this is still one of the fastest phones on the market.
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You didnt look hard enough. Actually, theres a phone like the 20 x on the market called the honor x30 max. It sports the same size and similar aspect ratio as the 20 x with wide screen.
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You didnt look hard enough. Actually, theres a phone like the 20 x on the market called the honor x30 max. It sports the same size and similar aspect ratio as the 20 x with wide screen.
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The Honor x30 Max has a 7.09" screen, which is smaller than the 7.2" screen of the Mate 20 X. The aspect ratio of the Honor x30 Max is 19:9. The Mate 20 X has a 18.7:9 aspect ratio.
Not only are you wrong about your actual statements, but also the Honor x30 Max CANNOT BE ROOTED, PERIOD (mandatory for me). It does NOT have OLED (a mandatory requirement for me). It has no expandable storage (also a requirement). Not only that, but it has mandatory 5G (which I am avoiding for my life).
Smaller, LCD (non-OLED) display. Lower-end phone. Even uses a Mediatek CPU (reserved for lower-end phones)! The Mate 20 X is a huge upgrade over the newer phone.
The new phone is a downgrade on every level - screen, quality, performance, features, efficiency.
HiSilicon Kirin 980 vs MediaTek MT6877 Dimensity 900 5G
Geekbench 4 single core3,3383,312(Android 64-bit)
Geekbench 4 multi-core9,8228,271(SGEMM)
GFLOPS performance102.1 GFLOPS93 GFLOPS(Multi-core / watt performance)
Performance / watt ratio1,637 pts / W827 pts / W
Simply put, there is NOTHING like the Mate 20 X with this size or form factor, especially not with OLED, on the market, nothing even comes close. You'll have to get a smaller, crappier phone, or sacrifice the form factor and quality and features to get a faster phone but not with a screen like this.
It's not a perfect phone, but it beats almost every phone in 2022, and competes in line with flagships. Desired features it lacks are microsd (it has nm card), 2K/4K, and high refresh rate. Also being able to unlock the bootloader on the newest OS. Other than that, there is nothing that comes close to this phone considering the OLED screen on this.
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Here are the FACTS about the x30 max compared to the mate 20 x. The following is from gsmarena.com. xxxxx
BodyDimensions174.4 x 84.9 x 8.3 mm (6.87 x 3.34 x 0.33 in)174.6 x 85.4 x 8.2 mm (6.87 x 3.36 x 0.32 in)Weight228 g (8.04 oz)232 g (8.18 oz)BuildGlass front, plastic frame, plastic backGlass front (Gorilla Glass), glass back, aluminum frameSIMDual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)Hybrid Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)IP53, dust and splash protection
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DisplayTypeIPS LCD, HDR10OLED, HDR10Size7.09 inches, 125.5 cm2 (~84.7% screen-to-body ratio)7.2 inches, 130.7 cm2 (~87.6% screen-to-body ratio)Resolution1080 x 2280 pixels, 19:9 ratio (~356 ppi density)1080 x 2244 pixels, 18.7:9 ratio (~346 ppi density)ProtectionCorning Gorilla Glass (unspecified version)
So as I said before, the x30 max is a +7 inch phone which is comparable to the mate 20x. Resolution and ppi between the 2 phones are generally the same as noted. The size again is basically the same. There exists about 4 phones that I know that are +7 inches.
The 30x max may not be the exact copy of the mate 20 x but it holds its own with a huge +7 inch screen which most phones lack. One difference between the 2 is that the x30 max has 64 MP, f/1.8, 26mm (wide), PDAF while the mate 20 x has the 40 MP, f/1.8, 27mm (wide), 1/1.7", PDAF.
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I agree, but I am looking at a new phone as well and the price difference between the 18 month old Note20 Ultra and the brand new S22 Ultra is relatively small second hand, so I am leaning more towards the S22 Ultra.
It's obviously a lot more money than the Mate 20 X but technology has moved on and the Mate 20 X is now 3.5 years old.
In the Netherlands I can get a new S22 Ultra for €850, a used Note20 Ultra for €650 and a used Mate 20 x or Mate 20 x 5G will still cost me €350 to €400.
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How can you get s22 ultra for that price? Its 1000€+ in EU
I owned the mate 20X for more than 2 years. It’s simply the best phone I have had. Recently, I saw some phones that have 120hz. This feature is a must in any phone right now for me, so I searched all the markets with a phone that has this feature with a width of at least 80mm, but I couldn’t find any except few phones like the Honor X30 Max, but the hardware in that phone is not good. The options I was left with were either foldable phones, Iphone 13 pro max, which I don’t like, so I went with S22 Ultra.
The S22 Ultra is amazing. The 120hz is a must now for me. The camera is simply amazing compared to the Mate 20x. Speed is also noticeable, but not to the point that would push me to replace the mate.
Let’s come to the most important thing we are all talking about here which is the screen. The S22 ultra has better colors. The better resolution is noticeable for me too. However, the size is a huge no for me, and I don’t like the curve display. I have both devices next to each other now, but I still prefer the media experience on my mate20x. I am not disappointed with my s22 Ultra, but I still think the Mate is a better phone for media, writing and reading which is more important for me that the camera for example.
There might be a coming phone that may be a good alternative for the mate, but it is still a rumor: Vivo X Note
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How can you get s22 ultra for that price? Its 1000€+ in EU
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Second hand sites. These new Samsung phones are frequently part of a contract renewal and then sold on for cash.
BTW I got a Z Fold3. The S22 Ultra was just too boring for me.
I have a note 20 ultra (6.9" screen) I am selling it and moving to a mate 20x I miss mine that much.
The curved screens are trash in my opinion.
I'm on my 3rd year with the Huawei P30 pro. By far the best phone I've owned, and the camera is holding up really well.
I have seen just about every review of the Vivo on youtube, and it seems like a strong performer compared to current flagship phones.
Have any of you upgraded from the P30 pro? While the nightmode seems to be the strong point of the Vivo, the wide angle and zoom seems average at best. How do these lenses compare to the P30 pro and do you think it's a worthwhile upgrade? I'm a bit concerned about all the reports of overheating and stuttering. The P30 pro is smooth like butter regardless what I throw at it.
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I'm on my 3rd year with the Huawei P30 pro. By far the best phone I've owned, and the camera is holding up really well.
I have seen just about every review of the Vivo on youtube, and it seems like a strong performer compared to current flagship phones.
Have any of you upgraded from the P30 pro? While the nightmode seems to be the strong point of the Vivo, the wide angle and zoom seems average at best. How do these lenses compare to the P30 pro and do you think it's a worthwhile upgrade? I'm a bit concerned about all the reports of overheating and stuttering. The P30 pro is smooth like butter regardless what I throw at it.
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P30 Pro...extraordinary phone, it keep a better zoom, but, the vivo X80 Pro wins in almost everything else
The 5x zoom is noticeably worse on the vivo? That's crazy on a flagship phone which is 3 years newer. I use the zoom quite a lot so might wait for either the x80 plus (just rumors for now) or the S23
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The 5x zoom is noticeably worse on the vivo? That's crazy on a flagship phone which is 3 years never. I use the zoom quite a lot so might wait for either the x80 plus (just rumors for now) or the S23
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i could say tie... the X80 pro + has been cancelled
If it's a tie I will be happy. I just read about the cancellation of the + and possibility of a X90 pro with a 1" sensor in December. Will hold off for now and hope it will be released in the UK as well.
Vivo X90 Pro+: December-bound flagship slated to crush the Galaxy S23 with its new telephoto lens, Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 SoC and 1-inch camera sensor
Twitter leaker has confirmed key specifications of the upcoming Vivo X90 Pro+. The flagship smartphone will be launched in December with high-end cameras, a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, Samsung E6 AMOLED screen, LPDDR5X memory and UFS 4.0 storage.
www.notebookcheck.net
I switched with the P30 Pro and I don't regret it. Not that the P30 Pro is bad, but it needed a change. The Vivo feels snappier, the night photos are great. There are a few things that bother me, but I probably wouldn't change back.
I switch from P30 Pro also and all what i can say Vivo X80 Pro is like you have P30 Pro on steroids...Have all what P30 Pro have plue much better
I've had the Mate 40 Pro and switched to the Vivo x80 Pro.
Zoom appears to be slightly better on the Vivo, night shots and HDR is better on the Vivo and pixel binned photos(aka normal AI mode) are about the same, BUT...
The Mate 40 Pro have a hidden secret that beats all the phones in the camera department most of the time, that secret sauce called 50MP AI mode.
It takes a couple of picture with the full resolution for 3 seconds, combine them and create an almost noise free full resolution picture with amazing detail and sharpness, it easily beats the vivo full res mode(works great at night as well).
I also use the desktop mode on my P30 pro when travelling. It's genius. Heard some people say its not working on the x80 pro. Can anyone verify?
Can't get the desktop mode to work But screen mirroring is ok
To be noted that VLC supports desktop mode and will properly play videos on the external monitor/tv
Washo4evr said:
Can't get the desktop mode to work But screen mirroring is ok
To be noted that VLC supports desktop mode and will properly play videos on the external monitor/tv
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Did anyone ever get it to work or its officially not working on the x80 pro? Pretty big deal if not as it's one of the advertised features that is really useful!