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Selfie quality

You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the OnePlus 3 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Every. single. ****ing. pore.

Camera quality is great on any OxygenOS ROM. Front selfie cam also is very clear and well designed. Love it so far after a month or so of usage.

laughingcloud said:
Every. single. ****ing. pore.
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Bahahahaha nailed it!

dpryor88 said:
Camera quality is great on any OxygenOS ROM. Front selfie cam also is very clear and well designed. Love it so far after a month or so of usage.
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I agree but i think that for a flagship is a shame the absence of front flash...Nowadays all phones have it!

SedyBenoitPeace said:
I agree but i think that for a flagship is a shame the absence of front flash...Nowadays all phones have it!
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Uh ... very few 'flagship' phones have a front flash, even today. I'd have preferred a dual tone REAR flash ... but meh, it still works.

I'll admit it, the dog is really tough to get in a photo without blur. He doesn't sit still much. But I like this one.

Henaway said:
Uh ... very few 'flagship' phones have a front flash, even today. I'd have preferred a dual tone REAR flash ... but meh, it still works.
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For me the lack of dual tone flash isnt a big deal, as I rarely use the flash even in low light conditions.
They should have done the front flash the same way as Snapchat did it, making the screen go bright white while taking the picture.

Equi1 said:
For me the lack of dual tone flash isnt a big deal, as I rarely use the flash even in low light conditions.
They should have done the front flash the same way as Snapchat did it, making the screen go bright white while taking the picture.
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I agree. It's a simple software trick, and LG used it on the G4 as well.

I've found the selfie quality to be really good.

you really have to keep it steady otherwise it'll not be a nice picture. because you see every little movement later on.
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Guys I get really noisy selfies at even moderate indoor lighting.. Shooting upto 1500 to 5000iso..any problem with my device???
Also the general selfie quality is lesser than my g4 in good lighting too the background subjects r blurry.. I'm on 3.2.6 is it a firmware issue

Equi1 said:
They should have done the front flash the same way as Snapchat did it, making the screen go bright white while taking the picture.
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They can still do this, right? Isn't it software-based?

Whenever i try to take group selfies, the front subject(person holding the phone) comes out sharp and others at the back are blurred out. Why?? Are you guys facing the same problem? Please help

Selfie quality is 0/5
Total noisy, grainy pictures.

omkarroxx said:
Selfie quality is 0/5
Total noisy, grainy pictures.
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Haha I take that as a joke

sohbins said:
Haha I take that as a joke
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What? Its not a joke. Just go through threads over here/OnePlus forums about camera quality.
here is one: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/op3-camera-blurry-after-post-processing-oos-3-2-7.470510/
And that is for rear cam too. Selfie cam is the worst.

I don't know about the issues you all are facing, but for me my OP3 has one the best front facing cameras. Whenever we are out in a group, they always borrow my phone. 17.3 GB out of the 54GB is all selfies.
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Excuse the torn bed sheets xD

It doesnt matter. But no, the quality shouldnt be influenced by that, though. :good:

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sarojshahi said:
Whenever i try to take group selfies, the front subject(person holding the phone) comes out sharp and others at the back are blurred out. Why?? Are you guys facing the same problem? Please help
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Word. I'm facing the same issue. Any fix for this?

Selfie quality

You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Honor 8 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I am very impress by the selfie quality...it comes with some nice little neat features that I have come to enjoy....if you use snapchat camera, you will feel right at home. Honor is aiming to attract the "younger" generations and the selfie camera does JUST that. But hey, if you are not into smoothing out those wrinkles, shrinking your cheeks, making your eyes "pop" and detect your "good" side, a simple snap will be just fine.

mgbotoe said:
I am very impress by the selfie quality...it comes with some nice little neat features that I have come to enjoy....if you use snapchat camera, you will feel right at home. Honor is aiming to attract the "younger" generations and the selfie camera does JUST that. But hey, if you are not into smoothing out those wrinkles, shrinking your cheeks, making your eyes "pop" and detect your "good" side, a simple snap will be just fine.
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I am glad that I'm not a selfie guy, the front camera is the last thing I worry about on a smartphone.

PalakMi said:
I am glad that I'm not a selfie guy, the front camera is the last thing I worry about on a smartphone.
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You and me both all I need is a descent quality for when I do use it
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mgbotoe said:
You and me both all I need is a descent quality for when I do use it
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Exactly :laugh:

Niki Kidman said:
To be honest, although I love this phone very much, its' selfies feature can't reach to ViVO....LOL
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What is ViVO? ????

Jojasa said:
What is ViVO? ????
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I think he means vevo

Jojasa said:
What is ViVO? ????
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A smartphone lineup from BLU

Any one with a pic?

simeon4real said:
Any one with a pic?
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Check android authority review if honor 8

It'c incredible, just blows the M9 out of the water. Perfect selfie is a cool feature too. Could use an LED flash but hey we can't have it all :laugh:

Does anyone know how to turn off the auto beatify from the pics?
cant turn off the option

good selfies

Excellent selfies,love the beauty mode

Good selfies

mgbotoe said:
You and me both all I need is a descent quality for when I do use it
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Same here. I prefer a decent quality main camera.

DarkGuyver said:
Same here. I prefer a decent quality main camera.
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Honor 8 perfoms well,dosent it????

It performs well for me

krispy321 said:
Honor 8 perfoms well,dosent it????
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The front facing selfie camera is OK. I wouldn't say that it's the best selfie camera that I have seen on a mobile device. But then again most flagship selfie camera sensors aren't very good ether.

DarkGuyver said:
The front facing selfie camera is OK. I wouldn't say that it's the best selfie camera that I have seen on a mobile device. But then again most flagship selfie camera sensors aren't very good ether.
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Yeah, good color reproduction

Owner of V30 - on our mark!

Dears,
I would like devote a thread to celebrate the new LG Jewel, a V30 we look for ages since the firsts POLEDs of Flex.
wolfgart got it... me as well it's the 300L and... you?
What you are waiting for?
Cheers

P.S: Here you can check 2 albums of pictures I did with the V30.
https://ibb.co/album/cKB0rF
https://ibb.co/album/dP6uJv

Congrats, I am impatiently waiting mine !
I would like to know how do you find the screen compared to the Samsung Note 7/8 or S8/SS8+, if you had/have any of these phones.
Did you yet noticed any shortcomings of the korean version?
Cheers~

sev7en said:
P.S: Here you can check 2 albums of pictures I did with the V30.
https://ibb.co/album/cKB0rF
https://ibb.co/album/dP6uJv
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Are you taking these photos in an arabic country ? which city you made me curious

It's Dubai

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sev7en said:
Dears...
Cheers
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Congrats for having​ extra phone. I hope that i will buy this phone in near future.
Please can you make some "selfie" camera comparison LG v30 vs OP5 or Note 8? Because I read that selfie camera on V30 is very bad. I see that is not so good at night, but how is at day? Is selfie camera really bad?
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P.S: Here you can check 2 albums of pictures I did with the V30.
https://ibb.co/album/cKB0rF
https://ibb.co/album/dP6uJv
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I look at this photo but why are every photo with big noise? :/
And it will be good if you or your firends have Note 8 and Iphone 8 Plus and made several photos comparison with LG v30 vs Note 8 vs Iphone 8 Plus. Because LG v30 should made best photo for low light and night but for know how I see i dont have very good comparison on the internet.
P. S. Is still beta software on the phone or it is release full version?

Hi dears,
the V300L I have is the final consumer one but the firmware is still in beta.
Today the first firmware update: now it's V10j with Google patch up to September 1th. It is an update of 297MB but I didn't see any log online.
I confirm... there is a lot to work around for the picture and video quality but we have the hardware... it's just a software deal.

sev7en said:
Hi dears,
the V300L I have is the final consumer one but the firmware is still in beta.
Today the first firmware update: now it's V10j with Google patch up to September 1th. It is an update of 297MB but I didn't see any log online.
I confirm... there is a lot to work around for the picture and video quality but we have the hardware... it's just a software deal.
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Thx a lot for super fast answer on my post
I never have LG. So do you think that they will (can) improve video and photo on V30?

p.s. a VS did with iPhone 7 and iOS 11.
https://ibb.co/album/gXZpJv

isko01 said:
I never have LG. So do you think that they will (can) improve video and photo on V30?
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Yes, absolutely. It is the first firmware and the V series is the LG flagship world wide.

For me v300s version 10j

sev7en said:
P.S: Here you can check 2 albums of pictures I did with the V30.
https://ibb.co/album/cKB0rF
https://ibb.co/album/dP6uJv
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can't say I'm all that impressed by the camera. It fine and all not not a anything too different from other flagships. From other pictures I've seen all that talk about glass lens and 1.6 aperture doesn't really translate to anything special. Larger aperture but a smaller actual sensor doesn't really gain you much it seems. I've seen at least one person say the auto mode isn't that great, just like the V20. Hopefully, I'm wrong and it's an improvement.
The DAC is what keeps me interested, and maybe video.

RojasTKD said:
can't say I'm all that impressed by the camera. It fine and all not not a anything too different from other flagships
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I should agree. After using my new V300SJ10 I'm kinda disappointed in the wide-angle camera. The image is sometimes blurry on the sides/top/bottom, and looks like it was caused by the software, not hardware (even with both HDR and noise reduction OFF, and even in good light conditions). Hope it will be fixed in the next updates.
I'm impressed with the portrait camera though, it makes really great pictures! The video quality is very good as well.

Funbit said:
I should agree. After using my new V300SJ10 I'm kinda disappointed in the wide-angle camera. The image is sometimes blurry on the sides/top/bottom, and looks like it was caused by the software, not hardware (even with both HDR and noise reduction OFF, and even in good light conditions). Hope it will be fixed in the next updates.
I'm impressed with the portrait camera though, it makes really great pictures! The video quality is very good as well.
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Can you tell me is big difference between video at 1080p 30fps and 1080p 60fps? Because in my OP5 when I turn on 1080p 60fps is much darker then 1080p 30fps.
Is it any differences in video quality in 60fps vs 30fps?

sev7en said:
P.S: Here you can check 2 albums of pictures I did with the V30.
https://ibb.co/album/cKB0rF
https://ibb.co/album/dP6uJv
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Thanks. But you take pictures wrong. You should set HDR to off when taking photos indoors on V30. Look how blurry V30 gets when HDR is on
It's not OK but HDR is to blame, not camera itself

Funbit said:
I should agree. After using my new V300SJ10 I'm kinda disappointed in the wide-angle camera. The image is sometimes blurry on the sides/top/bottom, and looks like it was caused by the software, not hardware (even with both HDR and noise reduction OFF, and even in good light conditions). Hope it will be fixed in the next updates.
I'm impressed with the portrait camera though, it makes really great pictures! The video quality is very good as well.
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P. S. And you said "portrait" camera? Did LG V30 have Portrait mode like iPhone 7 Plus/ 8 Plus? I know that LG G6 don't have but ot will be nice to have it.

Damn it looks like the camera isn't much better than the G6. That chromatic aberration at night reminds me of my 15 year old point and shoot Nikon... I wonder if it's LGs crappy ? app? I tried the Google pixel camera app and it wasn't this bad.

isko01 said:
Can you tell me is big difference between video at 1080p 30fps and 1080p 60fps? Because in my OP5 when I turn on 1080p 60fps is much darker then 1080p 30fps.
Is it any differences in video quality in 60fps vs 30fps?
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No, I didn't notice any visible changes, at least at home daylight environment.
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P. S. And you said "portrait" camera? Did LG V30 have Portrait mode like iPhone 7 Plus/ 8 Plus? I know that LG G6 don't have but ot will be nice to have it.
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Yes, by portrait camera I meant the main "16 MP f/1.6" camera. The second "13 MP f/1.9" one is not as good as the first one

By the way, I've also tested sound quality today and I'm not impressed
I was thinking of replacing my COWON Plenue D player with the V30, but unfortunately the sound difference is pretty noticeable, COWON sounds much clearer and open (by much, I mean, that I can pass blind test for sure). Maybe some people would find it subtle, but I like electronic music and this difference is huge for me. For testing I used FLACs by the "Demoscene Time Machine" guy (like this: https://soundcloud.com/demoscenetimemachine/demoscene-time-machine-memcpy) and Sennheiser IE80 buds. Both COWON and V30 EQ settings was set to Normal (HiFi DAC was enabled in V30, tried different settings, even EQ, but nothing helped).

The phone is pretty much cramped all together with other noise emitting components. Audiophiles pretty much know that there isn't much sound quality expected other than the extra amp power. We tried the high impedance mode and we weren't impressed either.
Camera = not yet there
Software = not yet there
Quad DAC = not close to a $100-500 portable dac
POLED screen = needs improvements
Battery = showed positive endurance results
We can say it is jack of all trades, master of none.

Video Stabilization - Oneplus 5 No OIS

When I got my oneplus 5 I was drawn back by its pace and stamina, the camera isn't bad, but without OIS it can be a horrible solution especially if you're in motion and doing any kind of zooming.
Have tried every single camera apk available and none offer anything which may help at all..
At least until today when I tried the new (I think it's new ) feature on Google photos.
Open your camera.
Start a video which you know will have shake, zoom in, move around etc.
End the video and open up Google photos.
Click edit, then stabilise and it'll do the work for you.
I was quite shocked, the results are surprisingly amazing.
There are times when the frames overlap but in comparison to a very shaky experience it's absolutely brilliant.
Don't need anything but your phone, camera app and Google photos.
Processing is quick on the Oneplus 5 so not much of a problem but certainly not real time, take about 20 seconds for a short 30 second clip.
Hope this helps, it has with me. :good:

Hmmph, I actually like the EIS better then the OIS when taking video based on YouTube vids demonstrating against 2 other phones (OP5 vs both Samsung s8+ and iPhone 8+). It's a bit more stable then the OIS which in and of itself is pretty amazing. The only thing the OP5 lacks is the EIS on 1080p 60fps, EIS is only working on 1080p 30fps.
As far as photos are concerned, my OP5, on OOS 5.0.4, is way more then adequate for everyday stuff (Normal light) and just OK in low light. If you're zooming it is not very good but you can add a Magisk Module (Camera M) if you're rooted and it is significantly better (no water color painting effects in processing). I'm more then just an amateur photog so if I need anything important I make sure I have my DSLR so that may ultimately be the reason the camera is more then just fine for me.
Though it is nice that Google Photos added that post processing/algorithm

Eric214 said:
Hmmph, I actually like the EIS better then the OIS when taking video based on YouTube vids demonstrating against 2 other phones (OP5 vs both Samsung s8+ and iPhone 8+). It's a bit more stable then the OIS which in and of itself is pretty amazing. The only thing the OP5 lacks is the EIS on 1080p 60fps, EIS is only working on 1080p 30fps.
As far as photos are concerned, my OP5, on OOS 5.0.4, is way more then adequate for everyday stuff (Normal light) and just OK in low light. If you're zooming it is not very good but you can add a Magisk Module (Camera M) if you're rooted and it is significantly better (no water color painting effects in processing). I'm more then just an amateur photog so if I need anything important I make sure I have my DSLR so that may ultimately be the reason the camera is more then just fine for me.
Though it is nice that Google Photos added that post processing/algorithm
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That's great. I'm sharing something for people who have a problem with the evidently shakiness in comparison to an OIS capable device.
This is not a thread to discuss what's better. This is a thread for me to share a find, and for people if they didn't know about it and want to use it to say thank you, nothing more.
On a personal note, EIS is in no way a substitute for OIS, it just isn't..
Next time you're a passenger in a car, zoom in fully and record a stationary object whilst the car is in motion.
Your will have a very hard time with a lot of shaking.
An OIS enabled device has no problem in this regard..
Finally, If your don't require stabilisation for your device and you're happy the way it is then please refrain from commenting here, it's not helping anybody and there is no point, is rather not get the mods in to clear up this thread.
Thank you.

dladz said:
That's great. I'm sharing something for people who have a problem with the evidently shakiness in comparison to an OIS capable device.
This is not a thread to discuss what's better. This is a thread for me to share a find, and for people if they didn't know about it and want to use it to say thank you, nothing more.
On a personal note, EIS is in no way a substitute for OIS, it just isn't..
Next time you're a passenger in a car, zoom in fully and record a stationary object whilst the car is in motion.
Your will have a very hard time with a lot of shaking.
An OIS enabled device has no problem in this regard..
Finally, If your don't require stabilisation for your device and you're happy the way it is then please refrain from commenting here, it's not helping anybody and there is no point, is rather not get the mods in to clear up this thread.
Thank you.
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lol I do have a requirement for stabilization and the EIS out preforms an iPhone 8 and S8 with OIS. If you don't think so then your hands must shake like crazy.. As far as zooming all the way in, it is a digital zoom, not an optical zoom. I don't know a lot of people trying to zoom all the in on a video capture.

Eric214 said:
lol I do have a requirement for stabilization and the EIS out preforms an iPhone 8 and S8 with OIS. If you don't think so then your hands must shake like crazy.. As far as zooming all the way in, it is a digital zoom, not an optical zoom. I don't know a lot of people trying to zoom all the in on a video capture.
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This is subjective, Just because you don't need sormthing doesn't mean others won't, and fyi my hands are like a rock and although I shouldn't have to justify myself, here's an example.
In my instance, I was driving along with my wife, me in the passenger seat, the Grenfell fire had just happened and I was capturing footage of it, we were on the dual carriageway way and the building was in the distance. I recorded with my HTC 10 at full zoom, this was perfect it adhered to every bump and jilt perfectly, a week later I tried with my oneplus, the oneplus was a mess, I have incredibly steady hands and it was impossible to get anything close to what the HTC offered.
I take a lot of photos and videos, some are zoomed some are not, some are moving some are stationary, some I have very little time to react to, not having OIS can mean a missed shot, poor video or both.
Furthermore I'm not here to tell you that you need this, it's you who's made the decision to come here and start saying that this isn't required, great that's your opinion, this is not a place for that, this is a place for people who DO have a problem with the EIS and believe me there are many besides me.
If you like the solution I've posted then say thanks and be happy, it works very well hence the share, I don't care if you're happy and you don't need stabilization, but this isn't the place to talk about that.
There is a camera thread you can share your views on, not in this thread.
PS: Not trying to be funny with you, but i don't want this thread to be a place for people to come and blindly defend a phone that should have had a key feature, OIS should be mandatory, EIS simply doesn't cut it in comparison, ask any photographer and they'll tell you the same thing.

Eric214 said:
lol I do have a requirement for stabilization and the EIS out preforms an iPhone 8 and S8 with OIS. If you don't think so then your hands must shake like crazy.. As far as zooming all the way in, it is a digital zoom, not an optical zoom. I don't know a lot of people trying to zoom all the in on a video capture.
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I count as someone who has pretty stable hands and I can say that the EIS on OnePlus isn't even near OIS from an iPhone X/8 (idk about the S8, I don't have one so can't compare). EIS is good (and better than EIS from other phone brands) but isn't as good as OIS. Not like my videos come out as a blurry mess due to shaking but there's definitely a difference between X or 8.

david19au said:
I count as someone who has pretty stable hands and I can say that the EIS on OnePlus isn't even near OIS from an iPhone X/8 (idk about the S8, I don't have one so can't compare). EIS is good (and better than EIS from other phone brands) but isn't as good as OIS. Not like my videos come out as a blurry mess due to shaking but there's definitely a difference between X or 8.
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With your videos if there's shake and if you upload it to YouTube it will remove some of it, but Google photos actually does a better job.. unless I'm seeing things.
Was surprised by the results.

dladz said:
With your videos if there's shake and if you upload it to YouTube it will remove some of it, but Google photos actually does a better job.. unless I'm seeing things.
Was surprised by the results.
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Yeah, it's not that terrible, I can look at the videos without vomiting :laugh:

dladz said:
When I got my oneplus 5 I was drawn back by its pace and stamina, the camera isn't bad, but without OIS it can be a horrible solution especially if you're in motion and doing any kind of zooming.
Have tried every single camera apk available and none offer anything which may help at all..
At least until today when I tried the new (I think it's new ) feature on Google photos.
Open your camera.
Start a video which you know will have shake, zoom in, move around etc.
End the video and open up Google photos.
Click edit, then stabilise and it'll do the work for you.
I was quite shocked, the results are surprisingly amazing.
There are times when the frames overlap but in comparison to a very shaky experience it's absolutely brilliant.
Don't need anything but your phone, camera app and Google photos.
Processing is quick on the Oneplus 5 so not much of a problem but certainly not real time, take about 20 seconds for a short 30 second clip.
Hope this helps, it has with me. :good:
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You were recording with stock OOS camera app, right? I know that in case of a stabilization in video, GCam can give much worse results
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Pshemo__ said:
You were recording with stock OOS camera app, right? I know that in case of a stabilization in video, GCam can give much worse results
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Yes it was the stock camera, I know my cameras and I know my phone's, ROMs, mods.
As I've said in the OP there is no combination of camera APK or ROM that gives an above par experience which would be comparable to OIS.
Simply put I've scoured every option that there is out there for a viable solution and there simply isn't one.
YouTube has its own algorithm for stabilization, as does Google photos.. the Google photos version is superior, I'm simply making people aware as it's helped me out.
I'm not sure if anyone here has had an OIS capable device but the experience compared to the stock OOS camera is literally night and day.
If anyone can't see that then they're either in denial or they have sormthing wrong with their eyes, it's that obvious.

Possible to take better photos with ASUS Rog Phone 2

I came across a video on YouTube which shows how we can take better photos with the Rog Phone 2 using the Google Camera.
<Mod edit: Link removed>
What are your thoughts?
Regards
Manoj Mahtani
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I've seen several of these comparisons, and I often prefer the stock camera images over the Gcam images. The ones of the toy car and phone in that video are prime examples.
I suggest learning manual controls. Even if you don't use it in normal shooting, understanding what's going on with settings will help you take better photos. Remember, only you know what kind of photo you want, not some random programmer that never met you. Because of that, auto modes can be hit and miss, and understanding manual controls will allow you to quickly adjust for those times auto mode isn't working for you.

We need to make a camera thread, the photos from this phone are actually good without gcam

Jjallda9 said:
We need to make a camera thread, the photos from this phone are actually good without gcam
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Lol. They are? The camera on this phone blows.

This phone struggles a lot in low light without gcam, tested both night mode on stock vs gcam

zed011 said:
This phone struggles a lot in low light without gcam, tested both night mode on stock vs gcam
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No ois, it will never be good.

suzook said:
Lol. They are? The camera on this phone blows.
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In good lighting it does much better than what I would have expected, and compared to my iPhone 11pro they are not horrible. Now taking photos at night that's a different story .

Jjallda9 said:
In good lighting it does much better than what I would have expected, and compared to my iPhone 11pro they are not horrible. Now taking photos at night that's a different story .
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Lol. iPhone 11 and rog2 in daylight? No contest. Rog2 looks like Nexus 4.

suzook said:
No ois, it will never be good.
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OIS is over-hyped anyway for a phone. The range of motion to correct isn't very big with such a small sensor. I've seen a test video of the electronic stabilization, and it worked extremely well.

Mr_Mooncatt said:
OIS is over-hyped anyway for a phone. The range of motion to correct isn't very big with such a small sensor. I've seen a test video of the electronic stabilization, and it worked extremely well.
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What do you think nightsight does? It uses ois in nightshots for better images. You have no clue. Move along.

See

suzook said:
Lol. iPhone 11 and rog2 in daylight? No contest. Rog2 looks like Nexus 4.
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I just uploaded a couple photos, I'm no photographer but these are pretty good.

suzook said:
What do you think nightsight does? It uses ois in nightshots for better images. You have no clue. Move along.
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From https://www.blog.google/products/pixel/see-light-night-sight/
If your subject moves during the capture, Night Sight can adapt to prevent a modest amount of motion from ruining the shot. Instead of capturing one bright and blurry photo, Night Sight captures an equal amount of light over a burst of many photos that are dark but sharp. By merging this burst, Night Sight prevents motion blur and brightens the photo, giving you a bright and sharp photo.
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As you were saying?

suzook said:
No ois, it will never be good.
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That's not true I have a pixel 1 with no OIS and it's fine in night mode

zed011 said:
That's not true I have a pixel 1 with no OIS and it's fine in night mode
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My V20 has it and I can get maybe a notch slower shutter speed than without. Not much difference. If it was something like Pentax's full frame DSLR, that gives 5 stops of shake reduction, that would be a big difference.