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what is the difference between eis 2.0 in pixel camera and old one in nexus 6p ?

i saw in google pixel specs that include EIS 2.0 " electronic image stabilizer " , and does not include OIS " optical image stabilizer " , so i have nexus 6p is it mean that i have old version of EIS ?
what is the version of EIS in nexus 6p and what is the deference between two and can recorde 4k with EIS ?
the answer will decide to buy pixel or not , because video recording important to me .
thank you in advance

ali8383 said:
i saw in google pixel specs that include EIS 2.0 " electronic image stabilizer " , and does not include OIS " optical image stabilizer " , so i have nexus 6p is it mean that i have old version of EIS ?
what is the version of EIS in nexus 6p and what is the deference between two and can recorde 4k with EIS ?
the answer will decide to buy pixel or not , because video recording important to me .
thank you in advance
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From what I've gathered the stabilization in the 6p is purely software based.
On the pixel however, Google has tied the camera to the gyroscope. The gyroscope polls 200 times a second to stabilize the image. So while it doesn't have Ois, it's not just software on the pixel.

scandalousk said:
From what I've gathered the stabilization in the 6p is purely software based.
On the pixel however, Google has tied the camera to the gyroscope. The gyroscope polls 200 times a second to stabilize the image. So while it doesn't have Ois, it's not just software on the pixel.
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tigercranestyle said:
^^^ what this guy said, though i thought i heard it polled the gyroscope 2000/second. looked around, but can't remember where i read/heard it. but yeah, @ali8383, 6p is strictly software based while pixel is sw/hw.
also the nexus 6p couldn't use eis to record 4k. the pixel can.
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Thank you for explaination

Could the 6P not poll its gyro also given the software?

B3501 said:
Could the 6P not poll its gyro also given the software?
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Probably doesn't have the CPU power to handle everything needed... kind of how HDR+ is way better on the Pixels. That, or Google is pulling shady moves and purposely hindering past devices to push new product.

I don't know what they are using for stability, but I did notice the pictures from the Pixel phones were much more sharper and detailed. Check out this video I made of a real world camera test on youtube. I got to play with the actual phones a few days before they came out and this was the first things i checked out. Just google techplughd. Thanks

This might help (go to minute 28)
https://www.dpreview.com/news/9782565306/google-launches-pixel-and-pixel-xl-smartphones
EDIT...the video in the link isn't set to the right time, I will tell you what time the video stabilization is shown.

4redstars said:
This might help (go to minute 28)
https://www.dpreview.com/news/9782565306/google-launches-pixel-and-pixel-xl-smartphones
EDIT...the video in the link isn't set to the right time, I will tell you what time the video stabilization is shown.
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thank you i watched the video again and understand now how it works .

Even when it seems a nice feature, the lack of OIS is still a sin in 2016 and for the price they pretend to charge.
Besides this, pinging the gyroscope 200 times per second is still more expensive (in terms of processing) than just add the proper hardware.
I don't believe this kind of stabilization could be better than normal EIS, so I'm staying skeptical until I see real conditions videos.

Here's a really good explanation of OIS vs EIS and being a current Nexus 6p user lowlight has been phenomenal so I'm excited about the Gyroscope and don't even care about not having OIS really.
https://9to5google.com/2016/10/10/g...firms-that-eis-will-still-work-with-4k-video/

I have a guess why no OIS, think this , without a OIS Gyroscope data perfectly match how camera lens moves, and software can pull the data out to correct the image, with OIS, the data from Gyroscope doesn't match the lens move any more, the EIS can only use the data from the camera to do stabilization which is less effective (cost more CPU and worse result). Some prople may argue OIS hardware can do the work, to be honest, OIS can offset some hand shake during low light taking pics, but during video recording, that little OIS can offer very little help smooth out the image, which actually not worth losing the ability to actually use Gyroscope to correct the image which can create more stable image. and Consider the pixel size of the camera is very large, much larger than even note 7, the low light shutter speed is actually fast enough so OIS really can't make much difference here. I use GS7 and I do notice taking low light pics take longer expose time, but google claim the pixel phone doesn't, which proves what I am guessing here. Let's see some real life test before jump to a conclusion, OIS is good, unless it is a big rig or on a big camera. On a phone, we just pick whatever works.

Does the Pixel have any sort of non-software based image stabilization for photos? (Gyroscope stabilization has only been mentioned for videos).

4redstars said:
Here's a really good explanation of OIS vs EIS and being a current Nexus 6p user lowlight has been phenomenal so I'm excited about the Gyroscope and don't even care about not having OIS really.
https://9to5google.com/2016/10/10/g...firms-that-eis-will-still-work-with-4k-video/
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jeffonion said:
I have a guess why no OIS, think this , without a OIS Gyroscope data perfectly match how camera lens moves, and software can pull the data out to correct the image, with OIS, the data from Gyroscope doesn't match the lens move any more, the EIS can only use the data from the camera to do stabilization which is less effective (cost more CPU and worse result). Some prople may argue OIS hardware can do the work, to be honest, OIS can offset some hand shake during low light taking pics, but during video recording, that little OIS can offer very little help smooth out the image, which actually not worth losing the ability to actually use Gyroscope to correct the image which can create more stable image. and Consider the pixel size of the camera is very large, much larger than even note 7, the low light shutter speed is actually fast enough so OIS really can't make much difference here. I use GS7 and I do notice taking low light pics take longer expose time, but google claim the pixel phone doesn't, which proves what I am guessing here. Let's see some real life test before jump to a conclusion, OIS is good, unless it is a big rig or on a big camera. On a phone, we just pick whatever works.
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There is no "data" from OIS, is just a mechanical system in order to compensate any movement made bu the user. The compensation is immediately and there is no need to process anything, and that's why is the preferred for most of the people. Besides, OIS help a lot with low light pictures and even when the Nexus 6P was really capable, the addition of OIS could have make a formidable experience in camera.
https://youtu.be/l5d2F6nP5MY?t=25s
EIS can't help with pictures, is only used for video, and even when it does somehow the job, the results are not so good, and it tends to have a lot of jelly effect. When you have OIS available, you can also make it work in conjunction with EIS and the results are awesome. Another point for the OIS is that it works with all resolutions, while EIS is dependant on the resolution and the processing power.
You can think this: best smartphone's cameras are the ones which include OIS, and they present really decent results even in low light. OIS helps you both in photo and video, while EIS is only for video.
I changed some months ago from a phone with OIS to one that doesn't have it, and I can say it's a world of difference in detail, even when the second one has better camera in paper, and when you mix the OIS and EIS, you get a really nice stabilized video without having to sacrifice much.
sabesh said:
Does the Pixel have any sort of non-software based image stabilization for photos? (Gyroscope stabilization has only been mentioned for videos).
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Exactly my point, Google is presuming about its new camera and its new stabilization, but most of the people take more photos than videos the whole time, and as far as I know, OIS is the only way to proper "stabilize" when taking pictures. Besides this, I would love to see manual controls and long exposure in this camera to see how good it does considering the lack of OIS and see if it's on pair with other smartphones.

Galaxo60 said:
Even when it seems a nice feature, the lack of OIS is still a sin in 2016 and for the price they pretend to charge.
Besides this, pinging the gyroscope 200 times per second is still more expensive (in terms of processing) than just add the proper hardware.
I don't believe this kind of stabilization could be better than normal EIS, so I'm staying skeptical until I see real conditions videos.
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But think about it. OIS is usually requested due to it performing better in low light conditions and stabilize the video (it's not to prevent blurry pictures). Google opted to go with a larger sensor that has a larger pixels, which in turn offer much better performance in low light. They then stabilized the camera with the gyroscope to prevent the jelly effect during recording. It's just a different take on the camera that will probably work just as well. Even better maybe.
Google has stated that the camera has a special core dedicated to it. Meaning processing power isn't lost at all.

scandalousk said:
But think about it. OIS is usually requested due to it performing better in low light conditions and stabilize the video (it's not to prevent blurry pictures).
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Wrong, OIS help you a lot by taking pictures in low light condition with a long exposure and prevent the blurry pictures, and that's why is a really nice adition to have.

Galaxo60 said:
Wrong, OIS help you a lot by taking pictures in low light condition with a long exposure and prevent the blurry pictures, and that's why is a really nice adition to have.
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Longer exposure time means that the camera is able to capture more light... Guess what else captures a lot more light? The large 1.55 micron pixels that the pixel phone has.
Taking pictures in the dark results in more noise, not blurred pictures perse.

With the f2.0 aperture, the pictures will have less depth vs a f1.7/1.8 aperture. Is that correct?
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scandalousk said:
Longer exposure time means that the camera is able to capture more light... Guess what else captures a lot more light? The large 1.55 micron pixels that the pixel phone has.
Taking pictures in the dark results in more noise, not blurred pictures perse.
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I agree with you in these points, but the Nexus 6P has the same camera and still produces some unexpected results time to time, so if Google nailed it with this, I think many people would be happy.
This is some test in low light, and it seems focus is still messed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbLZq52fVQM

Galaxo60 said:
I agree with you in these points, but the Nexus 6P has the same camera and still produces some unexpected results time to time, so if Google nailed it with this, I think many people would be happy.
This is some test in low light, and it seems focus is still messed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbLZq52fVQM
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The Nexus 6P does not use the same camera as the Pixel phones. It's a different sensor. Although both phones have 1.55 micron pixels. The Nexus 6P also doesn't use any hardware based stabilization like the Pixel phone either.
And while focusing didn't happen in that videos. It's a single instance where OIS wouldn't have made a difference since the Nexus 6P did focus.
The best thing to do is just wait and see. I'm sure Google will give us something stellar.

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The Nexus 6P does not use the same camera as the Pixel phones. It's a different sensor. Although both phones have 1.55 micron pixels. The Nexus 6P also doesn't use any hardware based stabilization like the Pixel phone either.
And while focusing didn't happen in that videos. It's a single instance where OIS wouldn't have made a difference since the Nexus 6P did focus.
The best thing to do is just wait and see. I'm sure Google will give us something stellar.
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This looks pretty nice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oftbNhz8fU

Dual Camera Implementation

Hi
Just wondering, when will the monochrome camera of the two cameras be used in real life scenario.
1.Will it always be used along with colour camera?
2.Will it be used when recording video?
I know wide aperture mode will definitely use both cameras. But for normal photos when I blocked monochrome camera, the colour camera still takes the same picture quality.

It can be used alone, and yes it is used to work with the RGB sensor, as for videos, they both work at the same time

san.cspro said:
Hi
Just wondering, when will the monochrome camera of the two cameras be used in real life scenario.
1.Will it always be used along with colour camera?
2.Will it be used when recording video?
I know wide aperture mode will definitely use both cameras. But for normal photos when I blocked monochrome camera, the colour camera still takes the same picture quality.
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While clicking normal pictures, both sensors are used. The monochrome sensor captures more light and hence, used for improving the shadows and details in a picture.
I haven't blocked the monochrome sensor while taking regular pictures.
If you did, then do post some samples of both scenarios.
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san.cspro said:
Hi
Just wondering, when will the monochrome camera of the two cameras be used in real life scenario.
1.Will it always be used along with colour camera?
2.Will it be used when recording video?
I know wide aperture mode will definitely use both cameras. But for normal photos when I blocked monochrome camera, the colour camera still takes the same picture quality.
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Can we see a sample photo? One using both cameras and one blocking the monochrome sensor.

Yes, attaching the pics. One with both cameras unblocked. One with monochrome blocked. I don't see any difference in the camera settings, resolution, and quality. This is taken in normal photo mode.
Pic 1 is monochrome blocked.

The difference might be noticeable in low light conditions

san.cspro said:
Yes, attaching the pics. One with both cameras unblocked. One with monochrome blocked. I don't see any difference in the camera settings, resolution, and quality. This is taken in normal photo mode.
Pic 1 is monochrome blocked.
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I can see the minute difference. The one with unblocked monochrome sensor is a bit brighter than the one with blocked monochrome sensor.
The different isn't much noticeable here but it surely will be in low light conditions or scenes with high dynamic range.
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san.cspro said:
Yes, attaching the pics. One with both cameras unblocked. One with monochrome blocked. I don't see any difference in the camera settings, resolution, and quality. This is taken in normal photo mode.
Pic 1 is monochrome blocked.
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At first glance, the difference is prominent. Left picture is brighter.

I dont see much difference betweeen the two pictures as such as the monochrome sensor is advertised as a big deal. But really we need more samples. I will do what I can when I get time.
Ultimately, I believe that the RGB camera is a real good one as we are getting good pictures out of the single camera! That's nice.

san.cspro said:
I dont see much difference betweeen the two pictures as such as the monochrome sensor is advertised as a big deal. But really we need more samples. I will do what I can when I get time.
Ultimately, I believe that the RGB camera is a real good one as we are getting good pictures out of the single camera! That's nice.
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I completely agree.

san.cspro said:
I dont see much difference betweeen the two pictures as such as the monochrome sensor is advertised as a big deal. But really we need more samples. I will do what I can when I get time.
Ultimately, I believe that the RGB camera is a real good one as we are getting good pictures out of the single camera! That's nice.
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Try some low light shots.
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san.cspro said:
I dont see much difference betweeen the two pictures as such as the monochrome sensor is advertised as a big deal. But really we need more samples. I will do what I can when I get time.
Ultimately, I believe that the RGB camera is a real good one as we are getting good pictures out of the single camera! That's nice.
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Do a photo in a dark area, you'll see difference

PalakMi said:
The difference might be noticeable in low light conditions
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I have heard it's much better using the B&W sensor to take pictures in lowlight situations.

iceepyon said:
I have heard it's much better using the B&W sensor to take pictures in lowlight situations.
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That's what honor claims, I didn't have a chance to test it

iceepyon said:
I have heard it's much better using the B&W sensor to take pictures in lowlight situations.
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Of course irs better.

Owner of V30 - on our mark!

Dears,
I would like devote a thread to celebrate the new LG Jewel, a V30 we look for ages since the firsts POLEDs of Flex.
wolfgart got it... me as well it's the 300L and... you?
What you are waiting for?
Cheers

P.S: Here you can check 2 albums of pictures I did with the V30.
https://ibb.co/album/cKB0rF
https://ibb.co/album/dP6uJv

Congrats, I am impatiently waiting mine !
I would like to know how do you find the screen compared to the Samsung Note 7/8 or S8/SS8+, if you had/have any of these phones.
Did you yet noticed any shortcomings of the korean version?
Cheers~

sev7en said:
P.S: Here you can check 2 albums of pictures I did with the V30.
https://ibb.co/album/cKB0rF
https://ibb.co/album/dP6uJv
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Are you taking these photos in an arabic country ? which city you made me curious

It's Dubai

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Dears...
Cheers
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Congrats for having​ extra phone. I hope that i will buy this phone in near future.
Please can you make some "selfie" camera comparison LG v30 vs OP5 or Note 8? Because I read that selfie camera on V30 is very bad. I see that is not so good at night, but how is at day? Is selfie camera really bad?
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P.S: Here you can check 2 albums of pictures I did with the V30.
https://ibb.co/album/cKB0rF
https://ibb.co/album/dP6uJv
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I look at this photo but why are every photo with big noise? :/
And it will be good if you or your firends have Note 8 and Iphone 8 Plus and made several photos comparison with LG v30 vs Note 8 vs Iphone 8 Plus. Because LG v30 should made best photo for low light and night but for know how I see i dont have very good comparison on the internet.
P. S. Is still beta software on the phone or it is release full version?

Hi dears,
the V300L I have is the final consumer one but the firmware is still in beta.
Today the first firmware update: now it's V10j with Google patch up to September 1th. It is an update of 297MB but I didn't see any log online.
I confirm... there is a lot to work around for the picture and video quality but we have the hardware... it's just a software deal.

sev7en said:
Hi dears,
the V300L I have is the final consumer one but the firmware is still in beta.
Today the first firmware update: now it's V10j with Google patch up to September 1th. It is an update of 297MB but I didn't see any log online.
I confirm... there is a lot to work around for the picture and video quality but we have the hardware... it's just a software deal.
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Thx a lot for super fast answer on my post
I never have LG. So do you think that they will (can) improve video and photo on V30?

p.s. a VS did with iPhone 7 and iOS 11.
https://ibb.co/album/gXZpJv

isko01 said:
I never have LG. So do you think that they will (can) improve video and photo on V30?
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Yes, absolutely. It is the first firmware and the V series is the LG flagship world wide.

For me v300s version 10j

sev7en said:
P.S: Here you can check 2 albums of pictures I did with the V30.
https://ibb.co/album/cKB0rF
https://ibb.co/album/dP6uJv
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can't say I'm all that impressed by the camera. It fine and all not not a anything too different from other flagships. From other pictures I've seen all that talk about glass lens and 1.6 aperture doesn't really translate to anything special. Larger aperture but a smaller actual sensor doesn't really gain you much it seems. I've seen at least one person say the auto mode isn't that great, just like the V20. Hopefully, I'm wrong and it's an improvement.
The DAC is what keeps me interested, and maybe video.

RojasTKD said:
can't say I'm all that impressed by the camera. It fine and all not not a anything too different from other flagships
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I should agree. After using my new V300SJ10 I'm kinda disappointed in the wide-angle camera. The image is sometimes blurry on the sides/top/bottom, and looks like it was caused by the software, not hardware (even with both HDR and noise reduction OFF, and even in good light conditions). Hope it will be fixed in the next updates.
I'm impressed with the portrait camera though, it makes really great pictures! The video quality is very good as well.

Funbit said:
I should agree. After using my new V300SJ10 I'm kinda disappointed in the wide-angle camera. The image is sometimes blurry on the sides/top/bottom, and looks like it was caused by the software, not hardware (even with both HDR and noise reduction OFF, and even in good light conditions). Hope it will be fixed in the next updates.
I'm impressed with the portrait camera though, it makes really great pictures! The video quality is very good as well.
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Can you tell me is big difference between video at 1080p 30fps and 1080p 60fps? Because in my OP5 when I turn on 1080p 60fps is much darker then 1080p 30fps.
Is it any differences in video quality in 60fps vs 30fps?

sev7en said:
P.S: Here you can check 2 albums of pictures I did with the V30.
https://ibb.co/album/cKB0rF
https://ibb.co/album/dP6uJv
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Thanks. But you take pictures wrong. You should set HDR to off when taking photos indoors on V30. Look how blurry V30 gets when HDR is on
It's not OK but HDR is to blame, not camera itself

Funbit said:
I should agree. After using my new V300SJ10 I'm kinda disappointed in the wide-angle camera. The image is sometimes blurry on the sides/top/bottom, and looks like it was caused by the software, not hardware (even with both HDR and noise reduction OFF, and even in good light conditions). Hope it will be fixed in the next updates.
I'm impressed with the portrait camera though, it makes really great pictures! The video quality is very good as well.
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P. S. And you said "portrait" camera? Did LG V30 have Portrait mode like iPhone 7 Plus/ 8 Plus? I know that LG G6 don't have but ot will be nice to have it.

Damn it looks like the camera isn't much better than the G6. That chromatic aberration at night reminds me of my 15 year old point and shoot Nikon... I wonder if it's LGs crappy ? app? I tried the Google pixel camera app and it wasn't this bad.

isko01 said:
Can you tell me is big difference between video at 1080p 30fps and 1080p 60fps? Because in my OP5 when I turn on 1080p 60fps is much darker then 1080p 30fps.
Is it any differences in video quality in 60fps vs 30fps?
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No, I didn't notice any visible changes, at least at home daylight environment.
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P. S. And you said "portrait" camera? Did LG V30 have Portrait mode like iPhone 7 Plus/ 8 Plus? I know that LG G6 don't have but ot will be nice to have it.
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Yes, by portrait camera I meant the main "16 MP f/1.6" camera. The second "13 MP f/1.9" one is not as good as the first one

By the way, I've also tested sound quality today and I'm not impressed
I was thinking of replacing my COWON Plenue D player with the V30, but unfortunately the sound difference is pretty noticeable, COWON sounds much clearer and open (by much, I mean, that I can pass blind test for sure). Maybe some people would find it subtle, but I like electronic music and this difference is huge for me. For testing I used FLACs by the "Demoscene Time Machine" guy (like this: https://soundcloud.com/demoscenetimemachine/demoscene-time-machine-memcpy) and Sennheiser IE80 buds. Both COWON and V30 EQ settings was set to Normal (HiFi DAC was enabled in V30, tried different settings, even EQ, but nothing helped).

The phone is pretty much cramped all together with other noise emitting components. Audiophiles pretty much know that there isn't much sound quality expected other than the extra amp power. We tried the high impedance mode and we weren't impressed either.
Camera = not yet there
Software = not yet there
Quad DAC = not close to a $100-500 portable dac
POLED screen = needs improvements
Battery = showed positive endurance results
We can say it is jack of all trades, master of none.

Wow does the rog2 take bad pics

I'm on a telegram group, and boy the pics the rog2 take are horrendous.

suzook said:
I'm on a telegram group, and boy the pics the rog2 take are horrendous.
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Then somebody is doing something wrong cause it takes really good pictures. Not $2,000 DSLR great, but still very good!

bluegizmo83 said:
Then somebody is doing something wrong cause it takes really good pictures. Not $2,000 DSLR great, but still very good!
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@bluegizmo83
your definately right, someone is doing something wrong, OP should buy an expensive professional camera if this phone doesn't meet his standards. quality is indeed very good.

bluegizmo83 said:
Then somebody is doing something wrong cause it takes really good pictures. Not $2,000 DSLR great, but still very good!
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@bluegizmo83
your definately right, someone is doing something wrong, OP should buy an expensive professional camera if this phone doesn't meet his standards. quality is indeed very good.
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The pics I am seeing look like they were taken on a note3, no joke. Also, the rog2 has no ois. Wtf???

suzook said:
The pics I am seeing look like they were taken on a note3, no joke. Also, the rog2 has no ois. Wtf???
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Nope no OIS. But it hands down has the best EIS I've ever seen on a phone. In both photo and video modes it stabilizes REALLY well.
Edit: short clip from someone else on YouTube of stabilization. This is even at 4k recording which most phones with EIS won't do (they usually limit EIS to 1080p only)

suzook said:
The pics I am seeing look like they were taken on a note3, no joke. Also, the rog2 has no ois. Wtf???
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The built in camera software isn't great, but the phone is in the upper echelon of photo quality when you use Gcam
The IMX586 is easily top 2 or 3 camera sensors out there when paired with good software.

I really, don't think so. It is from my ROG2.

viper98 said:
The built in camera software isn't great, but the phone is in the upper echelon of photo quality when you use Gcam
The IMX586 is easily top 2 or 3 camera sensors out there when paired with good software.
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Which version of gcam u using

Yeah idk what you're on about. The camera is above average at worst. It's not the best, nor close, but it's at least a 7/10.

Pictures at full resolution (48MP) is honestly crap due to the fact that at that resolution, the camera doesnt support HDR+ for some reason.
At 12MP however, the pictures are above average IMO

Does S20+ Exynos camer has HDR issue?

Using Galaxy S20+ for about 2 weeks but noticed the HDR processing of the camera is very bad & everything in the sky is very over exposed and blown out. Every time taking a picture in indoor having a window on the shoot ether the sky on outside is very blown out or there is no light in room & some time both happens together. I'm wondering is there any HDR mechanism at all in the camera?

Sohag0910 said:
Using Galaxy S20+ for about 2 weeks but noticed the HDR processing of the camera is very bad & everything in the sky is very over exposed and blown out. Every time taking a picture in indoor having a window on the shoot ether the sky on outside is very blown out or there is no light in room & some time both happens together. I'm wondering is there any HDR mechanism at all in the camera?
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If you mean by the white tint at the curtain, thats the glare from the light on the camera lens. Can't be avoided by software.
I'm the old days, hdr is obtained by taking the same shot with higher exposure setting, normal exposure setting and lower exposure setting and combine all 3 into one.
In modern camera, it is done automatically and usually only up and down a few steps.
Unfortunately for your case, it require more than just a few steps. The brightness difference is just too great between outside and inside.
If you really want to take those unimpressive shots, what you can do is focus outside and set the exposure for outside. Then switch on the flash and use it as fill in flash. The shot will come out better.
But honestly try to take something better.
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I'm taking about the blown out sky.

It's because the camera is exposing for the dark interior, and the sky outside is far too bright for even HDR to compensate for.
As mentioned, you can set the exposure for the sky outside, and use a fill flash to bring up the brightness of the room you're in.

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I'm taking about the blown out sky.
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Yes. That's what I meant.
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Are you sure you have the hdr activated? Exynos are known to be better than the snapdragon regarding hdr, and it works flawless on my ultra.

nyttnick said:
Are you sure you have the hdr activated? Exynos are known to be better than the snapdragon regarding hdr, and it works flawless on my ultra.
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HDR was activated & seen many phones handle this situation better than this. All the current Huawei, apple, Google or even oneplus phone has much better HDR processing than this

Mine s20 ultra exynos hav much better hdr than that. Think youre phone is faulty.

Sohag0910 said:
HDR was activated & seen many phones handle this situation better than this. All the current Huawei, apple, Google or even oneplus phone has much better HDR processing than this
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There is no hdr in the world that can salvage that unless you do it manually or use an dslr and adjust the steps to larger steps.
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