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Would it possible to hack this device for phone calls?
Does it have the needed hardware/radio for traditional cellular calling (not voip or volte)?
A friend of mine told me that At&t will assign you a number with your SIM, would they try to roadblock you from using it to make calls?
Just wondering if anyone else is interested in attempting this.

mine is hk lte version and it supports phone call out of the box. So isn't at&t's?
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apollostees said:
Would it possible to hack this device for phone calls?
Does it have the needed hardware/radio for traditional cellular calling (not voip or volte)?
A friend of mine told me that At&t will assign you a number with your SIM, would they try to roadblock you from using it to make calls?
Just wondering if anyone else is interested in attempting this.
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I keep asking the same questions, I know when Samsung announced the Note 8.0s they promised ATT customers a converged phone and Tablet, the "Phablet" as they so mwere marketing it, then I think when ATT and Samsung saw how much they were going to lose in revenue from people doing away with redundant "iDevices" they paniced and screwed over the customers and removed the dialer from the firmware.

jrmccracken said:
I keep asking the same questions, I know when Samsung announced the Note 8.0s they promised ATT customers a converged phone and Tablet, the "Phablet" as they so mwere marketing it, then I think when ATT and Samsung saw how much they were going to lose in revenue from people doing away with redundant "iDevices" they paniced and screwed over the customers and removed the dialer from the firmware.
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I'm sure someone here could make it work as far as the device goes, but At&t holds the power in the end. Their model doesn't come with a phone plan, just a data plan. This is likely where it would fail.

could you edit your post title and specify the model number since there is multiple LTE version of the Note 8 please.

hi ,
i dont own one , yet , but my other galaxy devices i have google voice installed and then talkatone setup and it can make and recieve calls via google voice number , its voip but it works over data and wifi , so you can use your google voice number just like a normal cell number ,
check it out , i know its not the exact solution you were looking for but it does work , i cut my bill in half over 65$ taken off by lowering my minuets , forwarding all incoming calls to my google voice, and taking off text messages , you still need minuets though , the forwarding costs 1 min per call and someones ALWAYS gonna call your previous number until you get everything moved to GV

Data blocked on phone sim when used on Tablet

Hi I wanted to know is there a bypass or trick or app to make the Internet work via a mobile sim.i wanted to use the t705 as a phone.the text works but data doesn't.
I get a message saying I can't use sim in a tablet.

What network you using chief?
if its Three, then its a bit awkward. you can either use a tablet sim which works but with no voice or texting, or you use a phone sim which uses voice and text but data dosent work.
i believe as the phone sim picks up the tablet as a "tethered device" (i think because the Tab-s identifies it to the sim somehow obviously as a tablet which three dosent seem to allow.)
frustrating as hell really.
i have used an EE sim in my tab -s and seems to work with voice, date and text. but cant speak for any other sims (ill have to try my VM staff sim and will report back)

aikon359 said:
What network you using chief?
if its Three, then its a bit awkward. you can either use a tablet sim which works but with no voice or texting, or you use a phone sim which uses voice and text but data dosent work.
i believe as the phone sim picks up the tablet as a "tethered device" (i think because the Tab-s identifies it to the sim somehow obviously as a tablet which three dosent seem to allow.)
frustrating as hell really.
i have used an EE sim in my tab -s and seems to work with voice, date and text. but cant speak for any other sims (ill have to try my VM staff sim and will report back)
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I'm using three.so with ee it works fine . because with certain networks it works for a while then stops, I'm thinking shall I switch to ee.also is there some file that can be edited so the network recognise the device as a phone not tablet?

adamo86 said:
I'm using three.so with ee it works fine . because with certain networks it works for a while then stops, I'm thinking shall I switch to ee.also is there some file that can be edited so the network recognise the device as a phone not tablet?
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I've just discovered this very same problem, and had a very long conversation with three, who sadly aren't able to offer me anything!
I doubt that there will be anything that can spoof three in to thinking that their sim is being used in a phone, as it will likely mean providing a fake ime number etc, however, if there is a way, I'm all ears... If not, I guess I'm changing to EE

I roughly use 25gb of data so ee is to expensive for me.

Damn, thats a lot of data a month! Yeah, EE will definitely be no good for that. I ended up speaking to EE about the situation, they were of the same opinion as me, in that it seems crazy why you cant put your sim into what ever device you like and use it how you like. Consequently, they specifically told me that should I choose to put my EE phone sim into my tablet, they will be absolutely fine with it.
EE have themselves a new customer, three are a man down. Shame, as I actually really rated three. Hopefully they will see some sense in the near future

dannstarr said:
Damn, thats a lot of data a month! Yeah, EE will definitely be no good for that. I ended up speaking to EE about the situation, they were of the same opinion as me, in that it seems crazy why you cant put your sim into what ever device you like and use it how you like. Consequently, they specifically told me that should I choose to put my EE phone sim into my tablet, they will be absolutely fine with it.
EE have themselves a new customer, three are a man down. Shame, as I actually really rated three. Hopefully they will see some sense in the near future
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Giffgaff also allows using phone sim in tablets which can be used as phones only like tab s

adamo86 said:
Giffgaff also allows using phone sim in tablets which can be used as phones only like tab s
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I had to leave O2 prior to joining three.... although most of the time it would show a full 3g signal, I'd get absolutely no data through most of the time... gift gaff just piggyback off their massively overcrowded network

I'm going to get it for a test drive.i left o2 ages ago because when I had a HTC hd 2 it didn't have a toggle to turn off data and my data would get used up eventually bard I explained to them how the phone was they didn't care later some developer made an app to toggle data off.

prepay SIM in deactivated S6 Edge with T-Mobile

I have a Samsung Galaxy Edge 6 with T-Mobile from T-mobile, love the phone, but I lost my job and the bill got out of control so I have not paid in like 3 months I think now.
It was not too big of a deal since my main number is a Google Voice number and I use Google Hangouts to make phone calls and text messages by default.
Its perfect when I am at home on wi-fi but as soon as I leave and not within wi-fi of course I get no internet functionality.
For a while I saw the carrier logo at the top of my phone "T-Mobile" but now it just says "searching" where it used to say that in the upper part of the screen on every screen. (I may have switched a setting causing this or they may have blacklisted my phone I am not sure how to tell).
The phone is not carrier unlocked however if I was to go to Walmart or even a T-Mobile store, tell them I don't have the phone on me but I just want to purchase a pre-paid SIM, could I do that and would it work on my phone to get back on the T-mobile or other carriers network?
Since I use Google Hangouts for my texts and calls it is very important for me to have data. I am sure 5GB would be fine but I want to purchase the cheapest SIM which has any kind of data to see if it even works first. I do not care what number it gives me since I will not be using it for outgoing or incoming calls.
My concern is that if I go with T-Mobile pre-pay, when I put SIM in, it may reject it automatically because they may have sent some kind of SIM lock command since it is not showing carrier anymore OR they may look up my IMEI and see that I have an outstanding bill with them and not allow the SIM.
Any suggestions besides the obvious "pay your bill" would be greatly appreciated! When I can afford to pay the bill I will :cyclops:

Short answer, yes it will work.
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Ok great thank you! Will go in and get a T-mob SIM tomorrow. Or actually, does anyone have advice of where to get the cheapest SIM so I can try this to make sure it works first? I think for $30 you can get 5GB data and a little talk from T-Mob is there anything cheaper? I am super-broke right now lol. I just need the data no talk.

Actually it depends on if the phone was part of the bill. If it wasnt payed off and you didnt pay them it will get blacklisted and it wont work with any carrier in the us. But if the phone was paid outright then you should be fine.

See that is what I am talking about. The phone AND Galaxy Gear S with activated SIM both were not paid off and bill is at $600 and it used to say "T-mobile" for carrier on top of phone screen now it just says "Searching" thus I am pretty sure that is a sign of being blacklisted. Even if phone is blacklisted cant I do something to make it use a prepaid SIM? Can I spoof the IMEI? Is that how they blacklist it?

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Short answer, yes it will work.
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I got around to trying this and no, it did not work. In fact I went to one of those third party T-mobile places which is an authorized dealer but he was still cool to talk about it with and had access to the T-mobile database.
He asked for my phone, went to the dialer app on the phone, put in a code with the numeric keypad, and it pulled up two bar codes and numbers (I think the IMEI).
He then went on his computer and put in my IMEI or whatever number was there and sure enough it said it was blacklisted.
I had a feeling this was the case when my phone went from showing the carrier logo on the top of the screen they it said "searching" after about 3 months on non payment.
So when I tried to purchase a new prepaid SIM and put it in the phone and phone restarted, instead of saying "searching" it now says "no service".
There has to be a work around for this. Maybe changing the phones IMEI is the only way but if there are other alternatives I would like to know. I can program and have been writing code since I was 12 years old but not sure if I need special hardware to flash and internal EEPROM or something like that. Any hep is greatly appreciated!
I hear there are people that I can pay to do it but I enjoying learning things like this on my own so I would really like to do it myself if possible?

Changing the imei might be possible but for legal and policy reasons that can not be discussed here

I see tons of ways to do it with a Google search super easy. But it seems TWRP might do it or at least let me backup everything including the system partition so I dont lose anything and can always go back?
Where can I get and learn more about TWRP and must I be rooted?
Can we currently root Samsung GS6 with Android OS 5.1.1 ?

AT&T Not Standalone Device

On AT&T's network the Galaxy watch DOES NOT operate as a standalone device. The watch has a telephone number, and the cell phone associated with the account has number. Samsung clearly advertises the watch as a "stand alone device" where you can make and receive calls. This is not true with ATT at least not currently.
Number sync off
Phone Off,
If you initiate call from the watch, you can and the receiver sees your watch number. This is good.
If you receive a call to the watch number, it goes immediately to voice mail. This is bad, it should ring on the watch.
Phone On,
If you initiate a call from the watch, the receiver sees the cell phone number. This is bad, the receiver should see the watch number.
If you receive a call on the watch, it immediately goes to voice mail. This is bad, you should be able to answer the call on the watch.
Number sync ON
Phone Off
If you initiate a call on the watch, you can but the cell phone number shows up. This is how number sync should work but it is not how I want the watch to work.
If you receive a call to the watch number, you get a message "The person you are trying to reach is not accepting calls...". This is bad and you should be able answer the call on the watch.
Phone On
If you initiate a call from the watch, you can and the recipient sees the cell phone number. This is what should happen but again not what I want.
If you receive a call to the watch number, you get the same "The person you are trying to reach is not accepting calls...". This is bad and you should be able to answer calls on the watch.
In my case, I do NOT want number sync. I operate my business of off my watch and my personal is my cell phone. I have had multiple calls to tech support and am now waiting for higher-level tech support to call me back within a couple days. Yeah, and I have a bridge to sell.
I want to make and receive calls on my watch using the watch's number. (this was clearly stated at the time I purchased the watch in October - and it worked at that time). At some point, this was changed on my watch as in the beginning, it did operate separately. This is what Samsung clearly advertises. AT&T does not clearly state that your watch will not operate “stand alone”.
I think Verizon does the something similar but at least they say there may be a problem. T-mobile gives conflicting information. One said it would work stand alone, another said I had to buy a digits line and then I could get them to answer or call from either number. I’m still researching.
Does anyone have any help to offer?

I have my unlocked Galaxy watch on T-Mobile and it works as a duplicate of my phone number as long as you have a data with paired digits plan for the watch.
Phone off ... Watch uses primary (phone number) to make and receive calls.
Phone on watch uses primary (phone number) to make and receive calls.
I don't know that you can have the watch be a true standalone without having a voice plan for the esim/watch on its own. Not sure if it's possible on tmo or att.

The watch number is not supposed to be used. When the phone is off, I can make calls with the watch (and others see that it is coming from the cell phone number) and when I receive calls on the watch that is because others have called the cell phone number.
To say in the middle of your description that functionality works as it is supposed to but not the way you want it to - makes it seem like all of your efforts are not really that worthwhile... If you want the watch to work differently then go back to your provider and tell them you don't want the watch in the phone connected and you want both phone numbers to work separately.
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The earlier smartwatches used to have their own separate number, and were not forced to share the cell phone number on the associated account. You could make voice calls on the watch number and you could send texts, on the watches number. I am not sure when this change was made by the cell companies but I'm guessing within the last year.

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The earlier smartwatches used to have their own separate number, and were not forced to share the cell phone number on the associated account. You could make voice calls on the watch number and you could send texts, on the watches number. I am not sure when this change was made by the cell companies but I'm guessing within the last year.
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So tell your carrier to remove the link between the numbers
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Pretty sure Tmobile one plan for wearables supports what you're trying to do

shollywood said:
Pretty sure Tmobile one plan for wearables supports what you're trying to do
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It will only do it IF: you have a samsung phone already on T-Mobile. Then you have to use Digits. This not like the GS3. I tried at the store, even tried switching my Gear S3 Frontier LTE number to the Galaxy Watch and no go. Since I was on Sprint, I switched the GW to sprint and now waiting for the VoLTE upgrade to be released.

No, Digits is a different plan that "tethers" to your phone. One plan is standalone, to my understanding.

Question Google Pixel Watch LTE Functions and Mint Mobile

Will the Google Pixel Watch LTE Functions work with a Mint Mobile account? Can you leave the phone at home and still use the LTE functions away from the phone?

As far as I understand, you'll need an eSIM to use LTE/4G on the watch. You need to check with your carrier if they can provide one for you.

WILLTONY7 said:
Will the Google Pixel Watch LTE Functions work with a Mint Mobile account? Can you leave the phone at home and still use the LTE functions away from the phone?
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Not just yet
Can I use a Mint plan on my smartwatch? | Mint Mobile
Unfortunately, Mint plans do not support smartwatches right now.
www.mintmobile.com

I assume the lack of support has to do with whatever is running in the background that allows the watch to use the same number as the phone. What if the phone wasn't part of it? Activate the watch on a plan, give it its own number. The watch wouldn't be a companion device. These watches are just phones shrunk down and can work on their own. I found a Galaxy Watch4 on Swappa with the IMEI number posted. I entered it into Mint's checker and it came back as a compatible device. What if the sim from a phone were install into a watch that uses a physical sim?

masterdave2002 said:
I assume the lack of support has to do with whatever is running in the background that allows the watch to use the same number as the phone. What if the phone wasn't part of it? Activate the watch on a plan, give it its own number. The watch wouldn't be a companion device. These watches are just phones shrunk down and can work on their own. I found a Galaxy Watch4 on Swappa with the IMEI number posted. I entered it into Mint's checker and it came back as a compatible device. What if the sim from a phone were install into a watch that uses a physical sim?
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It is possible to load a sim for phones on the watch.