Data blocked on phone sim when used on Tablet - Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi I wanted to know is there a bypass or trick or app to make the Internet work via a mobile sim.i wanted to use the t705 as a phone.the text works but data doesn't.
I get a message saying I can't use sim in a tablet.

What network you using chief?
if its Three, then its a bit awkward. you can either use a tablet sim which works but with no voice or texting, or you use a phone sim which uses voice and text but data dosent work.
i believe as the phone sim picks up the tablet as a "tethered device" (i think because the Tab-s identifies it to the sim somehow obviously as a tablet which three dosent seem to allow.)
frustrating as hell really.
i have used an EE sim in my tab -s and seems to work with voice, date and text. but cant speak for any other sims (ill have to try my VM staff sim and will report back)

aikon359 said:
What network you using chief?
if its Three, then its a bit awkward. you can either use a tablet sim which works but with no voice or texting, or you use a phone sim which uses voice and text but data dosent work.
i believe as the phone sim picks up the tablet as a "tethered device" (i think because the Tab-s identifies it to the sim somehow obviously as a tablet which three dosent seem to allow.)
frustrating as hell really.
i have used an EE sim in my tab -s and seems to work with voice, date and text. but cant speak for any other sims (ill have to try my VM staff sim and will report back)
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I'm using three.so with ee it works fine . because with certain networks it works for a while then stops, I'm thinking shall I switch to ee.also is there some file that can be edited so the network recognise the device as a phone not tablet?

adamo86 said:
I'm using three.so with ee it works fine . because with certain networks it works for a while then stops, I'm thinking shall I switch to ee.also is there some file that can be edited so the network recognise the device as a phone not tablet?
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I've just discovered this very same problem, and had a very long conversation with three, who sadly aren't able to offer me anything!
I doubt that there will be anything that can spoof three in to thinking that their sim is being used in a phone, as it will likely mean providing a fake ime number etc, however, if there is a way, I'm all ears... If not, I guess I'm changing to EE

I roughly use 25gb of data so ee is to expensive for me.

Damn, thats a lot of data a month! Yeah, EE will definitely be no good for that. I ended up speaking to EE about the situation, they were of the same opinion as me, in that it seems crazy why you cant put your sim into what ever device you like and use it how you like. Consequently, they specifically told me that should I choose to put my EE phone sim into my tablet, they will be absolutely fine with it.
EE have themselves a new customer, three are a man down. Shame, as I actually really rated three. Hopefully they will see some sense in the near future

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Damn, thats a lot of data a month! Yeah, EE will definitely be no good for that. I ended up speaking to EE about the situation, they were of the same opinion as me, in that it seems crazy why you cant put your sim into what ever device you like and use it how you like. Consequently, they specifically told me that should I choose to put my EE phone sim into my tablet, they will be absolutely fine with it.
EE have themselves a new customer, three are a man down. Shame, as I actually really rated three. Hopefully they will see some sense in the near future
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Giffgaff also allows using phone sim in tablets which can be used as phones only like tab s

adamo86 said:
Giffgaff also allows using phone sim in tablets which can be used as phones only like tab s
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I had to leave O2 prior to joining three.... although most of the time it would show a full 3g signal, I'd get absolutely no data through most of the time... gift gaff just piggyback off their massively overcrowded network

I'm going to get it for a test drive.i left o2 ages ago because when I had a HTC hd 2 it didn't have a toggle to turn off data and my data would get used up eventually bard I explained to them how the phone was they didn't care later some developer made an app to toggle data off.

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Using MDA 111 without a sim card

Could someone tell me if this is possible ,
My friend has recently acquired this phone and has found that he would
prefer to keep his smaller original mobile phone for calls and to use his MDA111 for internet/gprs access etc and as an organiser.
I did a search and found a thread which said you could do this with the XDA11,but don't know if it applies to the MDA111.
Thanks.
You can use the MDAIII for internet using wi-fi without a SIM card, but you MUST have a SIM card to use GPRS
Personally I chose the XDA2s specifically because it had ALL thing in one device. That way I don't need to carry two or more pieces of equipment with me; its all in the one bit of kit
Many thanks for the reply,
Unfortunately it's the gprs that he needs,
The only other thing would be to have two sims the same(multiple sims)
but according to the girl I was speaking to she said t-mobile don't do them
But the same girl also told me that the mda 111 wouldn't even start up without a sim in it. :roll:
Any ideas about which companies let you use multiple sims.
Many thanks.
Check out this guy on ebay for device that allows you to use 2 SIMs on your XDA2s
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43805&item=6395920753&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
As per phone not starting without a SIM card, that is incorrect, when you start-up, it defaults to the phonepad, all you have to do is to click cancel and it gives you access to the PDA part of the device.
Goodluck!
oab said:
Check out this guy on ebay for device that allows you to use 2 SIMs on your XDA2s
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43805&item=6395920753&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
As per phone not starting without a SIM card, that is incorrect, when you start-up, it defaults to the phonepad, all you have to do is to click cancel and it gives you access to the PDA part of the device.
Goodluck!
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T-Mobile do offer 2 SIMs with the same number (one for MDAIII, one for small phone) They can both receive incoming calls and only one at a time can call out. One of the SIMs has limited functionality. The service is called MultiSIM and you can actually more than 2 devices with the same number. I was quoted £30 set-up charge and £12.50/month for the second SIM on the same phone number.
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=business_bs_cm_ms
As a variation I have an XDA IIs and I only take it out of the house when I'm on trips and want all its pda and other options. The rest of the time it's just used around the house and it bumps calls on to my old phone which now has a pay as you go card in it. This doesn't cost me much because I receive many more calls than I make. Doesn't help with GPRS though ... Cheers.

[Q] The most stupid idiotic thing ever!!

Have just changed network to three mobile (UK), because they have great all you can eat data phone tarrif.
I also just bought replacement n1520 after the old one broke and samsun wont honor waranty.
They wont let me use the internet on the phone as they say its a tablet not a phone, and i need to get data sim which i wont be able to make phone calls!
aparantly 5.7" is ok but 8" is too big for a screen.
this is nutts three wont allow the n5100/n5120 to be used as designed.
£300 out of pocket on phone and now tied into 12 month contract.
anybody know any way to get the data to work?
john
photoscubaman said:
Have just changed network to three mobile (UK), because they have great all you can eat data phone tarrif.
I also just bought replacement n1520 after the old one broke and samsun wont honor waranty.
They wont let me use the internet on the phone as they say its a tablet not a phone, and i need to get data sim which i wont be able to make phone calls!
aparantly 5.7" is ok but 8" is too big for a screen.
this is nutts three wont allow the n5100/n5120 to be used as designed.
£300 out of pocket on phone and now tied into 12 month contract.
anybody know any way to get the data to work?
john
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Used a sim from a working phone and got the EE error after unlocking my ATT LTE Note 8.0.
Found a booth at the mall and found you need to get a data only SIM for tablets... Tested on Virgin in Scotland and worked fine, don't like Virgin. Soon I will be going to Amsterdam to pick a plan and service plus the SIM is cheaper as well.
gooberdude said:
Used a sim from a working phone and got the EE error after unlocking my ATT LTE Note 8.0.
Found a booth at the mall and found you need to get a data only SIM for tablets... Tested on Virgin in Scotland and worked fine, don't like Virgin. Soon I will be going to Amsterdam to pick a plan and service plus the SIM is cheaper as well.
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I can confirm that the phone works great on Virgin as i was conected to their network prior to joing three.
have now escalted to exc office and it has been confirmed they have no plans to enable the galaxy note 8 to be used on Three
I too have a Note 8 N5120 and absolutely thrilled using it with Gear1 etc...like you I was on Three and was blocked data, so both me and the wife cancelled the Direct Debit and are now both with o2 (amazing 4G) with a 5 Gig of data plan, unlimited calls and texts, both comes to around £50 a month, sim only for both mind as we already had phones.
I tend to use speakerphone a lot more than using voice from the watch as they are both audible to the public and quality is better from phone anyway so the Gear is neither here nor there I suppose, but crack on with the Note 8 its a fantastic device to use as a phone.
As for Three, wake up and smell the coffee, listen to what people want!!!!
Simply call them up like I did and explain you are not paying a single penny for the contract as they block your Note 8 from data, if everyone done this they might change this stupid rule..
Is there any way to spoof the identity of the device so three think it's a galaxy s5 or something?
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AMoosa said:
Is there any way to spoof the identity of the device so three think it's a galaxy s5 or something?
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afaik it detects the IMEI number, so they must have 2 lists, phone IMEI's and tablet IMEI's....1 list is blocked and the other isnt...

Gone are the days of sim swapping???

This is more of a general ATT thread, but it does relate to my note 4.....
I have a one plus one, and my note 4 and from day to day I want the flexibilty to swap phones as I see fit. It used to be move the sim, and you're good. Lately, I've see issues when I moved my sim from phone to phone.
The first was last week, I bought an alpha clone off of craigslist and voice would work, but data would not. I dropped it back into my one plus one, and same thing, no data. Went to an ATT store, and they did an IMEI swap on my account and all was well in the world. Years ago, the IMEI swap on the carrier system kinda just followed the phones and wasnt ever an 'official' thing...but now it seems it is. Any ideas on this, can I swap my IMEI online with ATT?
Obviously I did a search on it, and it takes me to the ATT website, but it looks more along the lines of swapping when you've made an official order, not just because you want to. Am I missing something?
Change the sim card. When I went from my g2 to a nexus 5 I swapped the sim when I got the nexus 5 in the mail and data wasn't working ect. I go down to the AT&T store and talk to the same girl who's actually on the ball there and we found out that if you have an ICIS sim card it won't work on phones they don't sell. Just get a generic lte sim and see if that fixes it. Good luck!
The Sims that are blue are lte Sims don't get the ones that are purple those are isis
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Change the sim card. When I went from my g2 to a nexus 5 I swapped the sim when I got the nexus 5 in the mail and data wasn't working ect. I go down to the AT&T store and talk to the same girl who's actually on the ball there and we found out that if you have an ICIS sim card it won't work on phones they don't sell. Just get a generic lte sim and see if that fixes it. Good luck!
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Is that what ATT is giving out by default now? I have a nano sim (that i got for that nexus clone) and it works fine in my OPO. If I put it in my note 4, I only get 4G, not LTE, which I thought was odd. I can do as suggested, just want to make sure I understand first...
All att Sims are lte capable but the purple ones are softcard (isis) compatible, meaning they have the correct security features for the use of isis enabled devices
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All att Sims are lte capable but the purple ones are softcard (isis) compatible, meaning they have the correct security features for the use of isis enabled devices
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ok, so he meant isis above.
I think this is just a standard att LTE card...its orange...and it DOES work in my OPO, so I think that theory is out.
Call customer care and give them the imei of a phone that supports lte and have them add that and just not change the sim
dboogie2288 said:
ok, so he meant isis above.
I think this is just a standard att LTE card...its orange...and it DOES work in my OPO, so I think that theory is out.
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The Isis/Softcard is a problem as described above, but there's also a "nextgenphone" feature that goes on your account with newer phones (along with your normal data feature) and newer phones are using that with a related APN so it could have something to do with that new feature. Haven't figured it out yet but I'm playing with the system & I'll post what I find. So far all my secure sims have changed phones fine. My Gear S gave me a couple problems but I'm not sure if they were related.
zoso28 said:
The Isis/Softcard is a problem as described above, but there's also a "nextgenphone" feature that goes on your account with newer phones (along with your normal data feature) and newer phones are using that with a related APN so it could have something to do with that new feature. Haven't figured it out yet but I'm playing with the system & I'll post what I find. So far all my secure sims have changed phones fine. My Gear S gave me a couple problems but I'm not sure if they were related.
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Interesting. When I went to another ATT store a few weeks ago to change to a nano sim, the rep changed some codes on my plan. I got this in an email:
DELETED MOBILESHAREVSL64VT
ADDED MOBILESHAREVP20
Last night I went to a different ATT store than usual, and found out they were just a partner (though you could never tell it) and he said there were a few wonky codes on my plan, one of which mentioned something about APNs...so maybe youre on to something. He was under the impression it was grandfathered though, so it was old. He could, of course be wrong.
He also tried his SIM (oh and I have a non-secure sim) in my one plus one from his moto x 2014 and it worked just fine. LTE and everything. He put my sim into his X, and got 4G only, no LTE.
So he swapped me back into a non-secure micro sim, just to try things out again, and I left the store with my one plus one working. I came home, dropped it into my Note 4, and got 4G only, no LTE. When I put it back into my OPO, I got a text message saying I needed a new sim to work with my phones new feature. Weird.
The original feature is just normal mobile share data but I'll have to look up the second one I haven't seen that in the system. What i know is that once you put your sim in a newer phone (last few months) the system auto adds that nextgen feature & you end up either needing a secure sim or have to put the correct imei on the account
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The original feature is just normal mobile share data but I'll have to look up the second one I haven't seen that in the system. What i know is that once you put your sim in a newer phone (last few months) the system auto adds that nextgen feature & you end up either needing a secure sim or have to put the correct imei on the account
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So that sounds like its our culprit.
If i have a secure sim for my note 4....can I move that to my OPO? I've heard no, but I've also heard yes...
I have been swapping my Sim card that I got with my Note 4 with my Note 3 Nokia 1520 and my Gear S. I have had data act up but only with the Note 4. Everything else has worked fine. In the Note 4 what I have done is add the older apn and toggle to that apn. Let it pickup the 4G lte icon or whatever it is. Got to phone app settings advanced settings and make sure you don't get an error. Then switch back to the Nextgen apn.
Worked for me.
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For Christmas I got an iPhone 5s for my daughter,to replace her iPhone 4s.Its been so long since I've used an iphone. Christmas morning she opened it.I told her just swap your Sim card,she came back down kinda upset and said it didnt fit.Now I felt bad,ATT isn't open nothing I could do.I remembered once I took a Sim that was too small and crazy glued it to a iPhone 3g Sim tray and it worked.So I googled cutting an iPhone 5s Sim card,and there's actually a template you can DL and trace where to cut.For some reason my printer didn't want to work so used a ruler and the dimensions that were on the site,it was micro Sim to nano sim. I got really sharp heavy duty scissors and cut it,sanded the sides and corner,even the non contact side because the nano is like a hair thinner,fit right in sim tray and worked perfect.I've offered to give her my S5,nope lol these kids and there Iphones.And that phones IMEI was on my plan that day,it was an ATT phone from someone who recently got a 6plus that I got it from.

Using Data-Only SIM Card in OP3

Hello,
I was wondering if I would be able to use a data-only sim card from T-Mobile in my 2nd SIM slot on my OP3. I have not received the phone yet but I was curious as to whether or not T-Mobile will recognize the device as a phone and not tablet. If anyone's done this before, please let me know.
The SIM card is coming from my Galaxy Tab A LTE and is activated.
Of course you can, it's like a super known use of dual-sim.. At least where I am from, Germany, data-sims are relatively cheap, compared to "full" sims (and if you go for like 6gb+ a month, you will only find like 50-60€ flats with sms+phone flat which I don't need).
I myself have got a 6GB Vodafone Data Card (says for tablet as well, xd) for 10€/month and a prepaid sim with 9ct/sms or 9ct/minute (I almost never call people, but when something important is up, I still am fully available with that card) on the t-mobile network.
edit: but I think there was something with 4g only being available on SIM1 ?? Well I use my data-sim in simslot1 and my phone-sim in simslot 2 and that way, it definitely works fine.
Should work.
One caveat from experience. Some time ago I bought a prepaid data SIM from Vodafone in Portugal. On the box it said only for tablet/mifi/pc or something like that. The vendor warned me also. I thought, bullsht, why would it make a difference, just going to pop it into my phone.
Long story short: it didn't work in my phone, until I manually changed the apn.
It would automatically set the apn reserved for data-only devices, and then it would apparently figure out I was using a phone and not allow me to log on. Once I changed the apn to the one reserved for phones, all was ok. Had to look up the apn online.

Question Using an eSim without a physical Sim on AT&T

Hi, I'm trying to use an eSim only (without inserting a physical sim) on my pixel 6 pro on AT&T, however I cannot get it to work. When I say not get it to work, I mean with eSim only there is no cell signal and no data signal. Physical sim works fine on both signal and cellular service. If there's another Us AT&T pixel 6 pro user who's using only the eSIM for service please respond and let me know whether or not eSim only works for you. Thanks.
Not an AT&T user here, am using a European carrier, just from anecdotal perspective: I also use eSim only and never had an issue on my P6 Pro. So it appears to be something carrier related.
I remember that I had to activate my eSim, maybe you also have to do this? Did you try out the eSim/your contract before using this phone?
Morgrain said:
Not an AT&T user here, am using a European carrier, just from anecdotal perspective: I also use eSim only and never had an issue on my P6 Pro. So it appears to be something carrier related.
I remember that I had to activate my eSim, maybe you also have to do this? Did you try out the eSim/your contract before using this phone?
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Yes, I tried 3 times with the help of AT&T and we couldn't get it to work. I'm going to return the device for a new replacement to see if that fixes this issue. Thanks for replying.
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Yes, I tried 3 times with the help of AT&T and we couldn't get it to work. I'm going to return the device for a new replacement to see if that fixes this issue. Thanks for replying.
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Before going through the hassle of returning the device for a potential fault - do you have a family member or friend, whose simcard/esim you could try out? That way you can find out if your phone truly has a defect or if its your contract/the specific esim. Of course you can always let them replace your device, but that will take a couple days, maybe there are faster ways to narrow the problem down.
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Before going through the hassle of returning the device for a potential fault - do you have a family member or friend, whose simcard/esim you could try out? That way you can find out if your phone truly has a defect or if its your contract/the specific esim. Of course you can always let them replace your device, but that will take a couple days, maybe there are faster ways to narrow the problem down.
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i tried again today at another AT&T corp store and walked out of the store with it working as expected (wait till the end). the person helping did additional research on my issue and discovered the P6P shipped to me "was not activated" with the inserted physical sim (which i removed when i received the device). apparently, AT&T will park (or associate) a new device with a specific number when shipping to you vs. walking in to buy a device on an existing line. nonetheless, i'm going to return the phone because the data connection isn't working consistently; data is on and then after i go to website, data turns off. i'm probably going to send it back to AT&T next week.
Finally got the phone working, but will get an unlocked version later; this one is still going back to ATT.
I'm using an ESIM on AT&t and even originally got the phone My plan was to have a physical TracFone SIM card and my AT&t esim which is exactly what I had on my Pixel 5 and it worked great. Both SIM cards work great... when the other ones not active or inserted. It is impossible to use with both SIM cards like I did on my Pixel 5. Constant signal loss and the majority of the time. No signal at all. But as soon as I deactivate or remove a SIM card it starts working perfect.
I had a problem with provisioning eSim on my TMobile, well technically its sprint still, says tmobile esim but I am on sprint billing. Anyways, you need to maybe try to do it on another WiFi access point or something. I had issues with mine activating over Viasat2 satellite internet. I live in that area, its either LTE or satellite for internet. Had to tether to my work verizon phone to activate it on sprint/tmobile lol. If the connectivity to the esim server is not great, you'll split hairs until it is.
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I'm using an ESIM on AT&t and even originally got the phone My plan was to have a physical TracFone SIM card and my AT&t esim which is exactly what I had on my Pixel 5 and it worked great. Both SIM cards work great... when the other ones not active or inserted. It is impossible to use with both SIM cards like I did on my Pixel 5. Constant signal loss and the majority of the time. No signal at all. But as soon as I deactivate or remove a SIM card it starts working perfect.
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Exactly the same issue/behavior I had with my AT&T P6P on the AT&T network so I returned mine today. I'm contemplating a Fi version to see if it works for my use case.

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