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Should I upgrade to tab s?

I love my 2 month old tab pro 8.4, love its pixel density and speed
Does the tab s has a better pixel density? Should I switch to the 10.5
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Same pixel density as Pro (359). Differences are S has super AMOLED screen, 32gb storage, 3gb RAM and Exynos chips.
IDK......not enough of an upgrade to make me spend the cash.

I asked myself the same question. The Tab S doesn't offer anything new that I want, and I dislike how the back side looks. I just want to enjoy the excellent device that I already have. I say get what you think will satisfy you in the long run, or else you will fall into the trap of upgrading to a new tablet every 2-3 months. =/

animedreamer240 said:
I asked myself the same question. The Tab S doesn't offer anything new that I want, and I dislike how the back side looks. I just want to enjoy the excellent device that I already have. I say get what you think will satisfy you in the long run, or else you will fall into the trap of upgrading to a new tablet every 2-3 months. =/
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A few people in another thread who have seen the S model have said that the screen did not look noticeably better than the Pro.

Does s model AMOLED share subpixels like they do on my old galaxy s4? Because that caused letters on screen to have fuzzy little hair.
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sharpehenry said:
Does s model AMOLED share subpixels like they do on my old galaxy s4? Because that caused letters on screen to have fuzzy little hair.
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Rumor has it that it does use subpixels. It's supposedly a AMOLED, not Super AMOLED.
I've always preferred LCD so will be sticking with my Tab Pro 10.1. Though, I'll check out the Tab S today at Best Buy. I hear they have an instore price of $249 on the Tab Pro 8.4. If true, that's one hell of a price for a phenomenal tablet.

chasney said:
Rumor has it that it does use subpixels.
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Tab S 8.4 is confirmed (at least somewhat, based on the following link - and I've seen it stated as pentile on other websites) to be a pentile display (subpixels); while the Tab S 10.4 is RGB stripe: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8168/samsungs-galaxy-tab-s-105-84-hands-on-with-samsungs-66mm-thin-tablets
Reviews around the web, and opinions on XDA I've read say the AMOLED is not significantly better or worse than the LCD on the Tab Pro models, just "different". Colors are a tad over-saturated, while blacks are a bit more true. If you like/dislike the AMOLED displays on the Samsung phones, your opinion will likely be the same for the Tab S.
Aside from the increased storage and RAM, I don't see this as much of an upgrade. And certainly not willing to buy another device after 2 months.
A bit questionable for Samsung to be releasing such similar devices so close together. I suppose choices are always good. But it gets to the point where they are just over-saturating the market (and maybe that is the intent?) and confusing the customer.

I'm more intrigued with almost double the battery time

yodan4 said:
I'm more intrigued with almost double the battery time
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Me too... based on Anand's tests the Tab S has better battery life for video playback than any other tablet currently out including the mighty IPad Air.
I have the Tab Pro and like it as well but the new device rocks with battery life.
I'd like to see application testing though. Video playback is definitely of value (I travel and watch videos) but I rarely spend hours on the tablet for internet use (that's what my computers are for).
However I do read a lot on my tablet and it would be interesting to see how long it lasts compared to the Tab Pro.

RobilarOCN said:
Me too... based on Anand's tests the Tab S has better battery life for video playback than any other tablet currently out including the mighty IPad Air.
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Was a bit intrigued by the comments on battery life, and read the review. Hardly seems like an objective test. The reviewer states that they used a movie with lots of dark scenes which greatly favors the AMOLED screen. So this doesn't tell you much of anything . . . unless you only watch dark movies all the time!
Would have been nice to see more data points, and for various movies to be played.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/3
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yodan4 said:
I'm more intrigued with almost double the battery time
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Where are you seeing double the battery time? Anandtech is showing 50% more for video playback (15 hours versus 10) and less time for internet browsing.

should i buy this tab ?

hi
i'm willing to upgrade my current 3 years old note 8 , i'm thinking in picking this m2 but i'm not sure if i should go for it or should i go for a samsung tab s2 or ipad mini 2/3 with 4:3 aspect ratio , i mainly use my tab to watch movies so please share ur opinion depending on that.

also please mention the screen on time u are able to get on this device

I think u should forget M2 tablet, look at the new M3 instead.

omaga said:
I think u should forget M2 tablet, look at the new M3 instead.
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M3 is not available in my country , actually i can't make my decision between 4:3 and 16:9 aspect ratios xD , put in mind that if i get the m2 , i will work on cm14 & other modes for this device xD

also what's the averge screen on time on this tab ?

messi2050 said:
also what's the averge screen on time on this tab ?
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They might have the details you need http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mediapad_m2_8_0-7309.php

Caelestiel said:
They might have the details you need http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mediapad_m2_8_0-7309.php
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Thanks it's only a general information and very few revs, i need a real owner opinion, i also don't like the bezels of this device so i think i won't go for it

omaga said:
I think u should forget M2 tablet, look at the new M3 instead.
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Isn't the M3 8 inches, the M2 is 10..?
EDIT - Ignore me, the M2 comes in 8 and 10 inch versions... duuhh... I don't usually bother looking at 8" and under, useless to me...
Oh well.

I'm getting new one for only 222$

messi2050 said:
I'm getting new one for only 222$
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Wow, so you'll work on cm / LineageOS for this device now? Epic if you do, there's sources released for this device too
I've had this tab for a week now, and so far I've been really pleased, the battery life is great because Huawei has a built-in battery saver mod that closes almost all apps and processes when the screen is off, the standby drain is almost nonexistent. I upgraded from an iPad Mini 2, and I'm really loving the bigger screen, I don't play any graphically intensive games, so the performance is more than enough for me too. The screen is also very good for an LCD panel, the colors are vibrant and blacks are black
Only 2 cons I've found so far is that the display is a bit warm-toned, this doesn't bother me because you can adjust the color temperature from the settings under display (I think the adjusting feature is there for the exact reason). The other con is that the build quality on the displays part is not the best, if I'm holding the tablet up, the display can be a little bit detached from the body and make a small sound when pressed on to, meaning the attachment is not perfect at certain points
But otherwise the build quality is great, and the price to value ratio is one of the best ever in my opinion, would recommend this to anyone who uses a tablet for media usage and light gaming :good:
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I,ve had mine for 6 months, excellent if a little-limited power wise (CPU/mem) Screen on time for browsing is for me 8+ hours & easily 6 for 720p video streamed over wifi & a little longer if stored on the tab. Screen is bright/clear and very good. Sound is awesome for a 10" tab. I got this to use alongside my old Nexus 10.

You're better off buying the Mediapad X2 as it has a much smaller footprint.

HUAWEI MediaPad M2 8.0 device just crap, I hope no one will ever buy that kind of crap. Nothing works, does not updates.

I went for a tab s2 , every thing is going good except it's speaker quality , I'm still getting used to it's 4:3 aspect ratio but I still prefer my old note 8 16:9 aspect ratio

Fluffbutt said:
Isn't the M3 8 inches, the M2 is 10..?
EDIT - Ignore me, the M2 comes in 8 and 10 inch versions... duuhh... I don't usually bother looking at 8" and under, useless to me...
Oh well.
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Not only that but the radios on the 10 and 8 " differ, what a mess.:good:

Buy tab active 2

96hz refresh rate

Has anyone in here tried the 96hz refresh rate? Does it save battery and feel quite fluid? Just wondered if it's safe to do so and if it makes a difference?

I use it. It's buttery smooth like 120hz but battery is bit better now with 96hz.

Does this require just developer options or root?
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Davey Dual Sim said:
Does this require just developer options or root?
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No root sorry forgot to paste link

Says app unsupported on my version of Android, no idea whether it worked as on the quick panel both the 120 and 96 stayed highlighted
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Sorry if this been answered before. Can you use the 96hz with WQHD

bigmann77 said:
Sorry if this been answered before. Can you use the 96hz with WQHD
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looks like it doesn't work with WQHD.

I'm using 96 now and feels as smooth as 120, no real noticeable difference
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Just to clarify....does this phone only work at 120hz if you set the resolution to 1080p? This means if you use the phone with its highest quality display it will only refresh at 60hz?
If that's the case well then that's just pointless isn't it?
I was so ready to buy this phone after moving to Razer for their 1 and 2 phones which both work at 120hz on maximum resolution - but if these only give 120hz at 1080p then what is the actual point??

nk33 said:
Just to clarify....does this phone only work at 120hz if you set the resolution to 1080p? This means if you use the phone with its highest quality display it will only refresh at 60hz?
If that's the case well then that's just pointless isn't it?
I was so ready to buy this phone after moving to Razer for their 1 and 2 phones which both work at 120hz on maximum resolution - but if these only give 120hz at 1080p then what is the actual point??
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Yes that's true but also Samsung might alter that in a further update if possible

russellcausier said:
Yes that's true but also Samsung might alter that in a further update if possible
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I think this is a hardware limitation - a software update wont do anything
I now understand why they didnt really push it as a major selling point as there would have been a lot of backlash.
I feel for those who didnt do proper research as they would have assumed they were getting 120hz at all resolutions
i think this is a major fail on samsungs part...I would have thought others on here would have felt the same...?

nk33 said:
I think this is a hardware limitation - a software update wont do anything
I now understand why they didnt really push it as a major selling point as there would have been a lot of backlash.
I feel for those who didnt do proper research as they would have assumed they were getting 120hz at all resolutions
i think this is a major fail on samsungs part...I would have thought others on here would have felt the same...?
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No I think most knew what they were getting as most of us will follow the YouTube channels of the tech folk and always knew what I was getting as was made aware in a lot of videos,for me can't really tell that much between qhd and 1080, 1080 looks fine and now at 96hz to save half hour extra battery

russellcausier said:
No I think most knew what they were getting as most of us will follow the YouTube channels of the tech folk and always knew what I was getting as was made aware in a lot of videos,for me can't really tell that much between qhd and 1080, 1080 looks fine and now at 96hz to save half hour extra battery
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fair enough - i guess I am just used to 120hz all the time and didnt really affect the battery on either of my Razer phones - TBH it lasted longer than any other Samsung phone i ever owned even with 120hz on - always got a full day out of it.
you would have expected with such a large phone as the ultra that battery would never be an issue....i guess this is another slight fail - no point in having 120hz if it has such a drastic impact on battery....
yes most of us would have watched videos and know what they are getting - however your average consumer is not us loool....

nk33 said:
fair enough - i guess I am just used to 120hz all the time and didnt really affect the battery on either of my Razer phones - TBH it lasted longer than any other Samsung phone i ever owned even with 120hz on - always got a full day out of it.
you would have expected with such a large phone as the ultra that battery would never be an issue....i guess this is another slight fail - no point in having 120hz if it has such a drastic impact on battery....
yes most of us would have watched videos and know what they are getting - however your average consumer is not us loool....
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Yeah seems the Exynos is turd the snapdragon seems to be top drawer in every way, Samsung giving us trash exynos wish I'd have waited and imported now!! I had the big Huawei mate x 5.000 battery and was superb but only 60hz this is my first 120hz and seems great on the snap ?? never tried a razor phone

russellcausier said:
Yeah seems the Exynos is turd the snapdragon seems to be top drawer in every way, Samsung giving us trash exynos wish I'd have waited and imported now!! I had the big Huawei mate x 5.000 battery and was superb but only 60hz this is my first 120hz and seems great on the snap ? never tried a razor phone
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so have you reduced your resolution to 1080 to get the 120 hz benefit?
is the jump to qhd not noticable on such a small screen then?

nk33 said:
so have you reduced your resolution to 1080 to get the 120 hz benefit?
is the jump to qhd not noticable on such a small screen then?
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The jump is noticeable but not enough to avoid turning on 120Hz.

dhorgas said:
The jump is noticeable but not enough to avoid turning on 120Hz.
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thanks man....
I am now in a dilemma - was looking forward to getting this phone - but spending £1,400 on a phone that doesn't run 120hz on its highest res got me thinkin why......its a lot of money...
thanks again for the feedback

nk33 said:
thanks man....
I am now in a dilemma - was looking forward to getting this phone - but spending £1,400 on a phone that doesn't run 120hz on its highest res got me thinkin why......its a lot of money...
thanks again for the feedback
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No problem. To be honest, I've had the phone for about a month now and while in my opinion this is the best phone Samsung has made to date, I do have some reservations about it that don't seem to be going away. The camera performance is really not very good (more mid-range to be honest) and the inability to run 120Hz at the full resolution (or even just 90-ish Hz) is somewhat frustrating for the price paid. I'm lucky in the sense that I bought the phone from Microsoft Canada and since they shuttered all of their stores I will have 30 days to return or exchange *after* they reopen their physical locations, so I probably have another 2 months to use the phone and see what updates do before I have to make the call on whether to keep or return it. I really recommend using the phone for about a week or two at least prior to deciding if you want to keep it, with particular emphasis on camera performance that is by far the biggest shortcoming.

dhorgas said:
No problem. To be honest, I've had the phone for about a month now and while in my opinion this is the best phone Samsung has made to date, I do have some reservations about it that don't seem to be going away. The camera performance is really not very good (more mid-range to be honest) and the inability to run 120Hz at the full resolution (or even just 90-ish Hz) is somewhat frustrating for the price paid. I'm lucky in the sense that I bought the phone from Microsoft Canada and since they shuttered all of their stores I will have 30 days to return or exchange *after* they reopen their physical locations, so I probably have another 2 months to use the phone and see what updates do before I have to make the call on whether to keep or return it. I really recommend using the phone for about a week or two at least prior to deciding if you want to keep it, with particular emphasis on camera performance that is by far the biggest shortcoming.
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Yes - you are lucky you get a good trial run!!
Staggering what you say about the camera. The camera seems to be the only difference between the ultra and the rest of the range yet the price is nearly double....if its not that good then surely better to get one of the other 2 models as you get the same phone really...
Tell me - is this refresh rate situation the same with the whole S20 range (ie the normal one and the plus)? or do the others work at 120hz on max res?

nk33 said:
Yes - you are lucky you get a good trial run!!
Staggering what you say about the camera. The camera seems to be the only difference between the ultra and the rest of the range yet the price is nearly double....if its not that good then surely better to get one of the other 2 models as you get the same phone really...
Tell me - is this refresh rate situation the same with the whole S20 range (ie the normal one and the plus)? or do the others work at 120hz on max res?
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The entire range has the refresh limitation. Keep in mind that other versions have smaller screens and cameras have no optical zoom. Only the Ultra has optical zoom. Samsung really bungled the camera business this year which is so ironic because that was supposed to be the biggest thing about these new phones.

120Hz QHD Update?

I wanted to ask if anyone has heard of any further updates on when Samsung will finally enable 120Hz on QHD. If we can use this thread to post updates? Do you think they're gonna wait until after the Note 20 phones are announced/released? It would suck to have to wait that long. FHD+ is fine but we know it would be great to have these displays blasting all the way.

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I wanted to ask if anyone has heard of any further updates on when Samsung will finally enable 120Hz on QHD. If we can use this thread to post updates? Do you think they're gonna wait until after the Note 20 phones are announced/released? It would suck to have to wait that long. FHD+ is fine but we know it would be great to have these displays blasting all the way.
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+1...update fix Green tint here today and all OK but i think May update is so Hot... [emoji28]
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It will arrive when 25w charging will be enabled on S10 series phones as promised by Samsung last March.
Its a marketing gimmick.

Forget about it! It's not going to happen. If you want 120Hz on QHD you need a S21.
Every other Smartphone that support 120Hz or even 144Hz get released with that option.
WTF Samsung. You are the Panel maker and supplier to all of those company's and they manage to bring those feature at day one.
I'm telling y'all it's because of the Exynos 990. They can't enable it on SD variants and leave the Exynos users behind that would reveal and confirm that the Exynos is crap, and would result in complaints which Samsung is trying to avoid.

its not gonna happen mate - sorry !!!
that was just rumours spread around to make people buy the phone thinking they can get it later
but as you can see they have issues with [email protected] so no way they're going to release it for QHD

It's probably not going to happen perhaps due to battery concerns. Could possibly be ready Note 20 series.
Nevertheless it's a top phone when I consider overall phone factor.
I've reviewed oneplus 8 Pro oppo find x2 and initially I did notice the difference qhd and 120hz refresh rate however several days later I've come back to my s20 ultra.
One thing I would have advised samsung to screw trying to perfect million camera lens wasting millions on testing tweaking but utilize resources to focus on getting the screen right. Hit it out of the park.
Having said that I'm back to my s20 ultra now for several reasons I'll do a comparison of all three thread maybe.

riz157 said:
It's probably not going to happen perhaps due to battery concerns. Could possibly be ready Note 20 series.
Nevertheless it's a top phone when I consider overall phone factor.
I've reviewed oneplus 8 Pro oppo find x2 and initially I did notice the difference qhd and 120hz refresh rate however several days later I've come back to my s20 ultra.
One thing I would have advised samsung to screw trying to perfect million camera lens wasting millions on testing tweaking but utilize resources to focus on getting the screen right. Hit it out of the park.
Having said that I'm back to my s20 ultra now for several reasons I'll do a comparison of all three thread maybe.
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Please do that comparison! And keep us posted

There is a hardware limitation of 120hz display on s20. You can check anandtech website for the same. It will never get QHD 120. Wish they make it variable and use combination of 48,60,96,120 to improve battery. I am ok with 120hz FHD but I think due to this implementation we are unable to run many games on 120( till now) that runs fine on other devices.

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There's issues with 120 on FHD? I haven't seen any on either the S20+ or this Ultra?

applicationz said:
There is a hardware limitation of 120hz display on s20. You can check anandtech website for the same. It will never get QHD 120. Wish they make it variable and use combination of 48,60,96,120 to improve battery. I am ok with 120hz FHD but I think due to this implementation we are unable to run many games on 120( till now) that runs fine on other devices.
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Hardware limitation? I thought the SD865 is rated to support up to 144hz?

roaduardo said:
Hardware limitation? I thought the SD865 is rated to support up to 144hz?
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Not with the processor but the way it it all implemented
It lacks MIPI interface.
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OK everyone. We established it's not gonna happen. Aaaaaand? Are we just gonna accept this fact? Let it slide? Shouldn't Samsung get **** for this?

chieco said:
OK everyone. We established it's not gonna happen. Aaaaaand? Are we just gonna accept this fact? Let it slide? Shouldn't Samsung get **** for this?
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I think the **** they should really receive first is the fact that the screen is green when 120hz is enabled... LOL
I've disabled 120hz since it's so noticeable, even with the latest updates. For now, I'd rather have 1440p than 120hz.

Nightwind Hawk said:
I think the **** they should really receive first is the fact that the screen is green when 120hz is enabled... LOL
I've disabled 120hz since it's so noticeable, even with the latest updates. For now, I'd rather have 1440p than 120hz.
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Which S20? I don't see it on my Ultra even at low light
From photos I've seen it looks like some have defective panels it was so noticeable

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Which S20? I don't see it on my Ultra even at low light
From photos I've seen it looks like some have defective panels it was so noticeable
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Think they're referring to the Exynos version. I'm in the US, SD so no green issues with mine. I've spent a few minutes trying to replicate it but couldn't see any issues. @Nightwind Hawk did you mean to say you disabled 120 because it's NOT so noticeable or that it is? If it is noticeable, why disable it?
Not to suggest that I don't believe that one source about this being a true hardware limitation on these phones but I'd prefer a more authoritative corroborating source to confirm this. In any case, it sucks that we don't have QHD with 120 but at the end of the day it doesn't kill the phone for me.
OP8 Pro has QHD @120 but screw using a phone again with that much of a damn curve on its display. I can't stand the curve on OP phones. If OP made the display on that 8 Pro FLAT, whoa...

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Which S20? I don't see it on my Ultra even at low light
From photos I've seen it looks like some have defective panels it was so noticeable
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Think they're referring to the Exynos version. I'm in the US, SD so no green issues with mine. I've spent a few minutes trying to replicate it but couldn't see any issues. @Nightwind Hawk did you mean to say you disabled 120 because it's NOT so noticeable or that it is? If it is noticeable, why disable it?
Not to suggest that I don't believe that one source about this being a true hardware limitation on these phones but I'd prefer a more authoritative corroborating source to confirm this. In any case, it sucks that we don't have QHD with 120 but at the end of the day it doesn't kill the phone for me.
OP8 Pro has QHD @120 but screw using a phone again with that much of a damn curve on its display. I can't stand the curve on OP phones. If OP made the display on that 8 Pro FLAT, whoa...
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I haven't noticed any green tint issues even with 120Hz at the moment I'm running mine in 96Hz so don't really notice any must be luck of the draw.

Guys this thread is about 120Hz @ QHD and not that green tint issue! There is a seperate thread about that issue... please discuss that issue over there.
Although who cares about this thread? Samsung isn't going to read this thread and decide to release a update.

Yeah can't work plainly due to exynos processors being unable to keep up with it.

not happening people
https://www.sammobile.com/news/why-galaxy-s20-will-probably-never-get-120hz-qhd-resolution/

Its interesting the Asus ROG 2 suffered from a red tint @ 120hz... Now the S20 suffers green tint @ 120hz..

Mate 20X EVR-L29 in USA

I was told that the 20x no longer works with any cellphone carriers in the US but I purchased a EVR-L29 model anyways and having them shipped over here in the states because I really like the phone for media consumption. I am just wondering if there is any current owners here in the US that can confirm or deny this fact.

I'm still using mine here in South Carolina with AT&T. No problems at all.

Still using mine with T-mobile

As long as your local carrier supports the LTE frequencies the EVR-L29 transmits and receives on then you are fine. The ban on Google and Android software on new Huawei hardware doesn't effect the functionality of phones manufactured before the ban. We have still have an EVR-L29 in our household in Canada and it still gets regular OTA updates and connected fine to local US carriers while we were in Boston and New York last week. I sold our my own EVR-L29 last year and have been using a Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra to get the faster 5g speeds, but the Mate 20 x is still my favorite phone and when ever I get a chance to take my wife's on the road with me.

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I sold our my own EVR-L29 last year and have been using a Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra to get the faster 5g speeds, but the Mate 20 x is still my favorite phone and when ever I get a chance to take my wife's on the road with me.
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I was strongly thinking about buying the note 20 ultra. Its better than the 20x except for screen size and aspect ratio, of course. But the note 20 ultra is an amazing phone with the best display on the planet. Still thinking about buying one and selling my mate 20x.

Deanro said:
I was strongly thinking about buying the note 20 ultra. Its better than the 20x except for screen size and aspect ratio, of course. But the note 20 ultra is an amazing phone with the best display on the planet. Still thinking about buying one and selling my mate 20x.
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The screen size and aspect ratio of the Mate 20 x have the Note Ultra 20 beat hands down. Whether it is reading a Kindle novel to pass time on a flight or reading articles on the internet, the Mate 20 x is just the right size for the job. Although on paper the dimensions of the Note 20 Ultra are not that much smaller, I find myself squinting a bit at the screen and often have to pinch to zoom. One advantage the Note 20 Ultra has that you wouldn't notice if you didn't switch back and forth between the models is the refresh rate. The adaptive 60 / 90 / 120 refresh rate on the Samsung product makes touch gestures buttery smooth - but I still prefer the increased screen real estate of the Huawei.

frcraig said:
The screen size and aspect ratio of the Mate 20 x have the Note Ultra 20 beat hands down. Whether it is reading a Kindle novel to pass time on a flight or reading articles on the internet, the Mate 20 x is just the right size for the job. Although on paper the dimensions of the Note 20 Ultra are not that much smaller, I find myself squinting a bit at the screen and often have to pinch to zoom. One advantage the Note 20 Ultra has that you wouldn't notice if you didn't switch back and forth between the models is the refresh rate. The adaptive 60 / 90 / 120 refresh rate on the Samsung product makes touch gestures buttery smooth - but I still prefer the increased screen real estate of the Huawei.
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What do you think about the Honor x30 max since its the same size and aspect ratio as the 20x?

Deanro said:
What do you think about the Honor x30 max since its the same size and aspect ratio as the 20x?
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The Honor has larger bezels and a taller aspect ratio resulting in less screen than the Huawei. I haven't seen a review of its camera set up, but the Huawei is still brilliant and for sound also has aptX HD. Huawei has been good about OTA updates for the Mate 20 x, continuing to treat it as a flagship phone. Makes life easier than side-loading Google apps on the Honor.

Steamer2499 said:
Still using mine with T-mobile
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This is not the 5G version correct? Also, what kinda of download and upload speeds do you get with Tmobile?

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The Honor has larger bezels and a taller aspect ratio resulting in less screen than the Huawei.
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Btw how's the battery on your note 20 ultra compared to the 20x?

My Mate 20 x gives me about six hour more use on a charge than the Note 20 Ultra, but I can fully charge the Note 20 Ultra in about forty minutes.

frcraig said:
My Mate 20 x gives me about six hour more use on a charge than the Note 20 Ultra, but I can fully charge the Note 20 Ultra in about forty minutes.
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That's strange. Most users report that the n20u gives more battery usage than the 20x. And 6 hours more with only 500 mah difference? That doesnt sound right.

Dvalin21 said:
This is not the 5G version correct? Also, what kinda of download and upload speeds do you get with Tmobile?
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Correct, no 5g. My up and down speeds r fine. T-mobile service here in SW Virginia has improved a lot over the last year including rural areas.

Deanro said:
I was strongly thinking about buying the note 20 ultra. Its better than the 20x except for screen size and aspect ratio, of course. But the note 20 ultra is an amazing phone with the best display on the planet. Still thinking about buying one and selling my mate 20x.
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I got rid of an S20+ because I didn't like the form factor. It's just taller than much lighter phones that have the same width. Pointless to get a tiny width phone like Note 20/21/22 Ultra phone - they are all the some width just some are taller and heavier. There is no use of the extra vertical space. Only reason for S22 ultra is for 1TB, but it's sold out anyway, and you can't root it for US version, and it's $1400 which is ridiculous, and you can't get the international yet, and still it's just a massive phone but not any wider than much lighter phones, defeating the purpose of making it heavier, they just make it taller and taller, soon we will have one that looks like a yard stick, thin and way too tall. They won't learn.

Deanro said:
That's strange. Most users report that the n20u gives more battery usage than the 20x. And 6 hours more with only 500 mah difference? That doesnt sound right.
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It's not strange. The resolution is much lower and so is the refresh rate. half the refresh and half the resolution makes it a 4x smaller screen to power, despite being a larger screen, so this gives the screen up to 4x battery life in that general example.

Hey, so I don't mean to hijack the thread, but ATT turned off their 3G network earlier this week and I can no longer make or receive calls on my EVR-L29. Just wondering if anyone had found a workaround to this issue. Are there any other Huawei phones of a similar size that will work with VoLTE? I also thought of another possible workaround by porting my ATT number to a Google voice account thereby forcing my phone to operate as a VoLTE device. I looked into it and it will cost a one time fee of twenty dollars a month to port over the number. I'm just not sure if it's going to work the way I want it to. Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in once again, sorry to hijack the thread but I really don't know where else I can go to try and get some input regarding this issue.... And I really don't want to part with my beloved Mate 20X.

I have Verizon on my V30S, and I've tried a few different devices since then but stuck going back to V30S. It's still a great phone, I was just wanting a larger OLED display for reading. The Mate 20 X has it. It's the widest phone on the market.
I tried the S20+ (last Galaxy phone that has expandable storage), but I did not like it and returned it. Actually they sent me the 5G US model when I ordered the 4G international model on purpose, but since I had to return it anyway, I do not want another S20+, it's the same width as my V30, just taller and heavier, defeating the purpose.
I want text bigger on the screen which is why I want a wider phone, and there is no modern tablet that exists in that form factor with OLED, and the A7 Lite doesn't have OLED but the form factor is ok. I wish it were smaller. Debating keeping it.
But to keep this Mate 20 X I need to root it. A device that is not rootable has no use to me. There are too many essential things that I need root for.
As for using it on a US network, I got this phone mainly as a tablet, and I have an MVNO GSM sim that I haven't tried in this phone yet. I usually use wifi anyway, but I would need to have data to be practical to have this as a daily driver.
However, if 5G becomes a permanent thing, then because 5G gives me severe headaches, I will simply never be able to use data again, I will only use WIFI at home, and the only other essential thing I use data for is Google Maps, but I can get an offline maps app that will just just fine and when I'm in a store I can connect to their WIFI if I want to google something. And if that becomes a problem, I will change my way of life and not contact anyone when away from home, I'll keep a burner phone in my car if I have to for emergency use. That said, soon I will have to move out into the country in the middle of nowhere because all the cities have already rolled out 5G anyway.
For me, the purpose of a phone is as a media device, reading, and wifi use. I don't need cellular 99% of the time. Guess what, people used to use landlines and didn't have cell phones, and the world survived. I don't mind going back to a landline if I need that as a phone service. Smartphones I will use as computers, not cellular. My laptop does not have a cellular connection and doesn't need one. My smartphone doesn't either. It's a very minor convenience.

xbt- said:
It's not strange. The resolution is much lower and so is the refresh rate. half the refresh and half the resolution makes it a 4x smaller screen to power, despite being a larger screen, so this gives the screen up to 4x battery life in that general example.
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It is strange. The n20u has far better batt efficiency that the 20x since the n20u's software is specificaly tuned for best batt performance unlike the 20x whose software isnt geared towards such a standard. The n20u outshines the 20x in battery life. Your assessment of deriving 4x more batt life by a mere 500mah difference is very poor.

xbt- said:
But to keep this Mate 20 X I need to root it. A device that is not rootable has no use to me. There are too many essential things that I need root for.
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The problem with rooting it is you have to downgrade which is a pain in the ass in and of itself to say the least. Then the issue in going back to 9 is lack of universal dark mode for some apps - although most apps have that anyway. Plus, the o/s looks like outdated kit kat from ages ago and is much slower than 11.
What benefits were you expecting to derive from rooting it?

Deanro said:
The problem with rooting it is you have to downgrade which is a pain in the ass in and of itself to say the least. Then the issue in going back to 9 is lack of universal dark mode for some apps - although most apps have that anyway. Plus, the o/s looks like outdated kit kat from ages ago and is much slower than 11.
What benefits were you expecting to derive from rooting it?
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Ok, awesome. How do I downgrade? I've been trying to figure it out. My other phone is on 8.0, Android 9 is still an upgrade from that. This phone is 1,000,000 times more useful on an older OS than on a new OS I can't root.
I've written the benefits before, they are too numerous to list in a quick post, I could write for an hour about all the reasons. Almost all of them are essential to my use.
Can you help me get this downgraded?