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Might the note 9 be better. Wth?

Put two phones side by side and the note 9 screen is crisper and more focused.
Is super AMOLED better then dynamic?
Also there is no bottom home button anymore.
I used to press the bottom to wake the phone without having a finger print saved.

Did anyone see what I mean?

borisb said:
Did anyone see what I mean?
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is your note 10 on 1080p or 1440p? and also what is note 9 on?

I was thinking that also. I was watching the same movie Endgame on both at the same time. The note 9 seems slightly better. Adaptive display mode is not available on the note 10 only vivid. Both phones were the unlocked version.

If you have the note 10 and not the PLUS, they YES your note 9 has a better, higher Res screen. Note 10 is only 1080p.

yeah the 10+ is superior to the 9 side by side if you have it setto WQHD+ out of the box it's only set to WHD+, if you are on the standard 10 it's only a 1080 screen so it is just a worse screen, the 10+ is the upgrade from the 9, the standard 10 is a budget model.

Belimawr said:
yeah the 10+ is superior to the 9 side by side if you have it setto WQHD+ out of the box it's only set to WHD+, if you are on the standard 10 it's only a 1080 screen so it is just a worse screen, the 10+ is the upgrade from the 9, the standard 10 is a budget model.
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Yes I just got mine and I think this is something a lot of people will stumble over. You ave to change the resolution to WQHD+ otherwise you're running 1080p on a native 1440p screen(Never Never Never do this).. That said this was true on the note 8 ad note 9 as well.

gottahavit said:
Yes I just got mine and I think this is something a lot of people will stumble over. You ave to change the resolution to WQHD+ otherwise you're running 1080p on a native 1440p screen(Never Never Never do this).. That said this was true on the note 8 ad note 9 as well.
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seem to remember the Note 7 wasn't even set at it's max out of the box, so it's a long running thing.

Belimawr said:
seem to remember the Note 7 wasn't even set at it's max out of the box, so it's a long running thing.
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It's for power conservation our of the box.

papashex said:
It's for power conservation our of the box.
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makes sense in a way, but would be better if it popped up as an option with reasoning during setup, then people would actually be aware of the setting.

I used to be one of those guys that compare and nitpick about pixels, sharpness,color etc. I've since realized that my eyes will get used to whatever device I'm using after a week. At the most after 3 weeks. But to chime in. I can't tell much difference with my note 9 and note 10 .
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The average person probably doesn't know what WQHD+ is so it makes sense for it to ship at the lower resolution.

Belimawr said:
makes sense in a way, but would be better if it popped up as an option with reasoning during setup, then people would actually be aware of the setting.
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Or people could just go exploring. If it popped up every single option that could be missed by a user the Samsung UI would be way more over bearing than it already is.
Everything is a click away and there is also a manual packed inside.
I'd roll the dice that the vast majority of the consumer market that doesn't know what an XDA is ain't stressing this. Hell how many people don't even bother changing their wallpaper.

How does WQHD+ affect battery life? I'm currently on FHD+ but interested in knowing how much less battery life I'd get.

ssgunner20 said:
How does WQHD+ affect battery life? I'm currently on FHD+ but interested in knowing how much less battery life I'd get.
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I suggest you try them both and see your results as we all run different apps etc on our mobiles. Battery life can vary vastly from one user to the next. :good:

Note 10+ vs S20 Ultra 5G

Anyone thinking of switching? interested to read people's opinions on this. I'm very tempted because I get no service on Tmobile at work so hopefully 5g solves it..but I. I not convinced yet I guess il wait until presentation on Feb 11th.
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dboyrusky01 said:
Anyone thinking of switching? interested to read people's opinions on this. I'm very tempted because I get no service on Tmobile at work so hopefully 5g solves it..but I. I not convinced yet I guess il wait until presentation on Feb 11th.
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5G is still on hand 71 for T-mobile so if you have a Qualcomm US Note 10 plus and don't get service at work then 5G won't fix that issue yet.
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I was thinking of switching but then I saw the price.
So far only talk of Ultra 5g, if there is a Ultra without 5g and a lower price I'll consider it but right now as much as I want the camera I can't justify it 6 months after buying the N10+.
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If all the specs are true to current leaks then I will definitely upgrade from my Note 10+.I'm pretty stoked for a 16 gig 6.9 inch 120 hz. display and the 108mp. Camera combo.

JAMRZ69 said:
If all the specs are true to current leaks then I will definitely upgrade from my Note 10+.I'm pretty stoked for a 16 gig 6.9 inch 120 hz. display and the 108mp. Camera combo.
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The only turn off is When enabling 120Hz, it will set the display resolution to FHD+ / 2400×1080. I might just wait until the new note since the utilize the spen alot

idk yet, I'm waiting for a definite info on the new 3D Max fp sensor if they'd add it to the S20 or not, that's the only thing I don't like on my N10+. Other things to consider is saying goodbye to the s pen which I like a lot.
As for 5G? - am ok with LTE for now since it'll take some time(years?) for 5G to get a full implementation everywhere, right now it's just a promise for which we have to pay extra 'up front'.
Another pressing question is about that 108 mp, specifically: how will the image processing handle all that load, I hope they will make people happy with the results.
So, if not the Ultra model, for the sake of saving some bucks, what's good the S20+ brings? Right, a new SoC, 120Mhz(most of us will probably switch back to 60) and better then N10+ cameras – is that enough to get rid of N10+ and additionally shed an extra $500 - $600 for the trade? Me thinks not.
For better pics I'd rather buy the new Sony A6100(~$600)

Definitely will get the S20 Ultra....keeping my Note 10+

yup, i'll definitely be getting it. had the s10+, note 10+, note 10+ (star wars edition) and now the ultra once released. I get bored rather easily and always want the new hotness. and since the pixels have been letting me down lately, my only guilty pleasure are the Samsung phones. I hope there's a ceramic version like the s10+.

I am definitely going to get it - can't wait to see what the camera can do. From what I have read, while it is a 108 mega pixel cameara, the S20 ultra will combine pixels (four pixels) to help improve how much light is going to come in - I don't understand the specific workings of it all - but in the end, it sounds like it is going to be amazing. Camera, Big Battery, Huge Screen, no Bezels, it sounds like it has everything youi might want in a SmartPhone. Just a few weeks away, I can't wait.

I also like to get the best of the best when they come out like @chetly968. Kind of "oooh, shiny, me want!" situation but I'm not completely room over by the leaked specs. I know that it's a good upgrade to the S10/+/e range and the Note 10 range but it's like what @mzsquared said, are the upgrades worth the extra cost you'll have after trading in the Note 10+ 5G.
I'm going to watch the event and see what they say. It's usually the case that all the new upgrades in the S range get to the Note anyway in addition to extra upgrades.
It's a matter of do you want to wait, how do you use your Note 10+, do you use the S-Pen, would the experience be the same if you get the S20.
I gravitate towards the top phone on the Note range when it's launched, primarily because the Note range have more of a square body rather than the rounded corners on the S range.
I guess we'll see what they have in store for us next week.

Nope not getting it , It's not a upgrade from Note10 Plus to a S20 , basically it's a downgrade, so i won't downgrade, I'll wait for the Note11 or Note20 what ever they will call it. So for now I'll stay on my Note10 Plus, Also the Note10 Plus will still be better till i get the Note11 or Note20.
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I feel like I have no reason to switch really.
It's not like getting a hopefully much better camera is going to launch me a photography career.
I really don't see any benifit when this phone is already fast, modern, and super adequate for life.
Save the money, go on a trip, cause having the latest phone is not a measurement of living life.

The performance gains will be minimal. I won't be upgrading.
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No S Pen, no S20.

I will wait Microsoft Surface Duo! This is a good hybrid and a serious competitor for fold and note series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trNMtfm3w7g&feature=emb_logo

Reserved S20+ anyway, now I have a few days to actually think about buying it for real, will see...
My reasoning starts with the trade value, Samsung offers $700 for my N10+, most of the Swappa's listing are right now in mid $600's(not to mention the involved hustle), sad, but that's the reality of a free market. Maybe I could settle down now with this S20+(5G though the 5G 'grid' has not been built yet around where I live)
It'll probably still suck with that same ultrasonic fp sensor I guess, am getting used to it on my N10+.

Definitely keeping my N10+ until the N20+ or whatever they call it. 120hz screen only at 1080p according to MKBHD. At least thats what he said in his video.

S20 looks ugly to me with those non curved edges, not a significant upgrade from Note 10 plus imo
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that huge battery may not be as impressive as it sounds when its got to power all that.
also...some reports say ultra has a true optical zoom of 4x and others say 5x...either way i do believe the 10x hybrid optical as they call it will be optical level...seems the further digital zoom will be more useful than it sounds as it appears to have good stabilisation.
they did mention in reveal yesterday that a lot of the software improvements mentioned will come to the s10+ in updates.
also...you could buy two 65" lg ultra hd hdr smart tv's with freeview and satellite tuner built in for the price of s20 ultra*[https://b-static]*...and still have change
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Sorry if this offends or seems controversial, but I can't help but surmise that people considering buying the S20 don't really need a 'Note' device anyway.
For me, in my daily life, the 'S Pen' is indispensable. No matter the features offered by any other device, without the 'S Pen', it's just not complete.
Signing and translating documents, editing media, and even typing, with my large stubby fingers, are much more efficient on a 'Note', resulting in higher productivity.
The S20/+/Ultra, whilst very good devices, on paper at least, just can't cut it for me.
So, no thanks, will wait for the Note 20?, but even then, it would probably need to incorporate all under screen sensors. So, maybe no update till the Note 21.

96hz refresh rate

Has anyone in here tried the 96hz refresh rate? Does it save battery and feel quite fluid? Just wondered if it's safe to do so and if it makes a difference?

I use it. It's buttery smooth like 120hz but battery is bit better now with 96hz.

Does this require just developer options or root?
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Davey Dual Sim said:
Does this require just developer options or root?
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No root sorry forgot to paste link

Says app unsupported on my version of Android, no idea whether it worked as on the quick panel both the 120 and 96 stayed highlighted
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Sorry if this been answered before. Can you use the 96hz with WQHD

bigmann77 said:
Sorry if this been answered before. Can you use the 96hz with WQHD
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looks like it doesn't work with WQHD.

I'm using 96 now and feels as smooth as 120, no real noticeable difference
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Just to clarify....does this phone only work at 120hz if you set the resolution to 1080p? This means if you use the phone with its highest quality display it will only refresh at 60hz?
If that's the case well then that's just pointless isn't it?
I was so ready to buy this phone after moving to Razer for their 1 and 2 phones which both work at 120hz on maximum resolution - but if these only give 120hz at 1080p then what is the actual point??

nk33 said:
Just to clarify....does this phone only work at 120hz if you set the resolution to 1080p? This means if you use the phone with its highest quality display it will only refresh at 60hz?
If that's the case well then that's just pointless isn't it?
I was so ready to buy this phone after moving to Razer for their 1 and 2 phones which both work at 120hz on maximum resolution - but if these only give 120hz at 1080p then what is the actual point??
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Yes that's true but also Samsung might alter that in a further update if possible

russellcausier said:
Yes that's true but also Samsung might alter that in a further update if possible
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I think this is a hardware limitation - a software update wont do anything
I now understand why they didnt really push it as a major selling point as there would have been a lot of backlash.
I feel for those who didnt do proper research as they would have assumed they were getting 120hz at all resolutions
i think this is a major fail on samsungs part...I would have thought others on here would have felt the same...?

nk33 said:
I think this is a hardware limitation - a software update wont do anything
I now understand why they didnt really push it as a major selling point as there would have been a lot of backlash.
I feel for those who didnt do proper research as they would have assumed they were getting 120hz at all resolutions
i think this is a major fail on samsungs part...I would have thought others on here would have felt the same...?
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No I think most knew what they were getting as most of us will follow the YouTube channels of the tech folk and always knew what I was getting as was made aware in a lot of videos,for me can't really tell that much between qhd and 1080, 1080 looks fine and now at 96hz to save half hour extra battery

russellcausier said:
No I think most knew what they were getting as most of us will follow the YouTube channels of the tech folk and always knew what I was getting as was made aware in a lot of videos,for me can't really tell that much between qhd and 1080, 1080 looks fine and now at 96hz to save half hour extra battery
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fair enough - i guess I am just used to 120hz all the time and didnt really affect the battery on either of my Razer phones - TBH it lasted longer than any other Samsung phone i ever owned even with 120hz on - always got a full day out of it.
you would have expected with such a large phone as the ultra that battery would never be an issue....i guess this is another slight fail - no point in having 120hz if it has such a drastic impact on battery....
yes most of us would have watched videos and know what they are getting - however your average consumer is not us loool....

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fair enough - i guess I am just used to 120hz all the time and didnt really affect the battery on either of my Razer phones - TBH it lasted longer than any other Samsung phone i ever owned even with 120hz on - always got a full day out of it.
you would have expected with such a large phone as the ultra that battery would never be an issue....i guess this is another slight fail - no point in having 120hz if it has such a drastic impact on battery....
yes most of us would have watched videos and know what they are getting - however your average consumer is not us loool....
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Yeah seems the Exynos is turd the snapdragon seems to be top drawer in every way, Samsung giving us trash exynos wish I'd have waited and imported now!! I had the big Huawei mate x 5.000 battery and was superb but only 60hz this is my first 120hz and seems great on the snap ?? never tried a razor phone

russellcausier said:
Yeah seems the Exynos is turd the snapdragon seems to be top drawer in every way, Samsung giving us trash exynos wish I'd have waited and imported now!! I had the big Huawei mate x 5.000 battery and was superb but only 60hz this is my first 120hz and seems great on the snap ? never tried a razor phone
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so have you reduced your resolution to 1080 to get the 120 hz benefit?
is the jump to qhd not noticable on such a small screen then?

nk33 said:
so have you reduced your resolution to 1080 to get the 120 hz benefit?
is the jump to qhd not noticable on such a small screen then?
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The jump is noticeable but not enough to avoid turning on 120Hz.

dhorgas said:
The jump is noticeable but not enough to avoid turning on 120Hz.
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thanks man....
I am now in a dilemma - was looking forward to getting this phone - but spending £1,400 on a phone that doesn't run 120hz on its highest res got me thinkin why......its a lot of money...
thanks again for the feedback

nk33 said:
thanks man....
I am now in a dilemma - was looking forward to getting this phone - but spending £1,400 on a phone that doesn't run 120hz on its highest res got me thinkin why......its a lot of money...
thanks again for the feedback
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No problem. To be honest, I've had the phone for about a month now and while in my opinion this is the best phone Samsung has made to date, I do have some reservations about it that don't seem to be going away. The camera performance is really not very good (more mid-range to be honest) and the inability to run 120Hz at the full resolution (or even just 90-ish Hz) is somewhat frustrating for the price paid. I'm lucky in the sense that I bought the phone from Microsoft Canada and since they shuttered all of their stores I will have 30 days to return or exchange *after* they reopen their physical locations, so I probably have another 2 months to use the phone and see what updates do before I have to make the call on whether to keep or return it. I really recommend using the phone for about a week or two at least prior to deciding if you want to keep it, with particular emphasis on camera performance that is by far the biggest shortcoming.

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No problem. To be honest, I've had the phone for about a month now and while in my opinion this is the best phone Samsung has made to date, I do have some reservations about it that don't seem to be going away. The camera performance is really not very good (more mid-range to be honest) and the inability to run 120Hz at the full resolution (or even just 90-ish Hz) is somewhat frustrating for the price paid. I'm lucky in the sense that I bought the phone from Microsoft Canada and since they shuttered all of their stores I will have 30 days to return or exchange *after* they reopen their physical locations, so I probably have another 2 months to use the phone and see what updates do before I have to make the call on whether to keep or return it. I really recommend using the phone for about a week or two at least prior to deciding if you want to keep it, with particular emphasis on camera performance that is by far the biggest shortcoming.
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Yes - you are lucky you get a good trial run!!
Staggering what you say about the camera. The camera seems to be the only difference between the ultra and the rest of the range yet the price is nearly double....if its not that good then surely better to get one of the other 2 models as you get the same phone really...
Tell me - is this refresh rate situation the same with the whole S20 range (ie the normal one and the plus)? or do the others work at 120hz on max res?

nk33 said:
Yes - you are lucky you get a good trial run!!
Staggering what you say about the camera. The camera seems to be the only difference between the ultra and the rest of the range yet the price is nearly double....if its not that good then surely better to get one of the other 2 models as you get the same phone really...
Tell me - is this refresh rate situation the same with the whole S20 range (ie the normal one and the plus)? or do the others work at 120hz on max res?
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The entire range has the refresh limitation. Keep in mind that other versions have smaller screens and cameras have no optical zoom. Only the Ultra has optical zoom. Samsung really bungled the camera business this year which is so ironic because that was supposed to be the biggest thing about these new phones.

60hz/120hz

Why is this on my note 10+ in settings and does it work

This has been discussed before, No, it doesn't do anything on our phone...
Just a placebo effect...
Lazy coding by Samsung as it was brought over from the S20 series where it does do something, hence it is "hidden" in our firmware...
But feel free to try it out....

ultramag69 said:
This has been discussed before, No, it doesn't do anything on our phone...
Just a placebo effect...
Lazy coding by Samsung as it was brought over from the S20 series where it does do something, hence it is "hidden" in our firmware...
But feel free to try it out....
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Sad but true. It's a cruel joke from Samsung, a tease.
Samsung could have made the Note 10+ forward compatible for the variable refresh rates seen on their new Note 20 Ultra.
That would have been the customer friendly thing to do. Denon's been doing that for over a decade with their flagship receivers; hardware and software upgrades.
Samsung may customization friendly but it's far from consumer friendly... this coming from the world's leading OLED manufacturer.
Really?
Why reward Samsung by upgrading to the expensive Note 20 U for variable display rates when the also very expensive Note 10+ should have been software upgradable?
Lame Samsung.

yeah as said it's just code left locked out in the back end of the firmware from being ported from devices with the option for it.
it's fairly common for stuff like this to be left in the code but just blanked from view as it is often easier than totally removing the code.

I was just snooping around trying to see if I can find ims settings to see if the video chat icon would appear on my contact again but its not there and I found the this idk why samsung disabled that icon

yeah it's likely the hardware in the Note 10+ can't support the 120hz as it's not as simple as just software, LCD and such prior was at the point it could do more than the developer set it for, but OLED even from Samsung is still in its infancy compared to LCD panels, so it is highly likely that the hardware is limited and stopping it from working. also likely why the 120hz only works with 1080 on the devices that can use it.

How Old is youre firmware ?

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How Old is youre firmware ?
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It's on the latest firmware

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How Old is youre firmware ?
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the option appeared with oneUI 2.1 hidden away in the back end because it was ported from the S20 down to the 10 series and rather than remove the code entirely they just hid away the option as it did nothing.

ultramag69 said:
This has been discussed before, No, it doesn't do anything on our phone...
Just a placebo effect...
Lazy coding by Samsung as it was brought over from the S20 series where it does do something, hence it is "hidden" in our firmware...
But feel free to try it out....
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Belimawr said:
yeah it's likely the hardware in the Note 10+ can't support the 120hz as it's not as simple as just software, LCD and such prior was at the point it could do more than the developer set it for, but OLED even from Samsung is still in its infancy compared to LCD panels, so it is highly likely that the hardware is limited and stopping it from working. also likely why the 120hz only works with 1080 on the devices that can use it.
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The Note 10 hardware can't support a refresh higher than 60hz. Samsung could have hardware supported it if they had choose too*.
It been a righteous gesture...
In the future because of the bluetooth chipset fail on the Note 10+ I will scrutinize future purchases from Samsung much more closely.
Samsung and/or their carrier partners also have a history of invalid spec claims in the past with audio specs.
Sucks spending big bucks when Samsung skimped less than a buck or two per unit for 2* available leading edge chipsets.
Not what you expect on Samsung flagship product.
Many reviewers stated that this Note was not targeted for performance users as it had been in the past. The memory certainly is but not the display refresh rate or bt.
Caveat emptor...
*It's possible they were forced to use the ones they did because of the hardware platform they were using.
No other phone has 12gb RAM and 1.5 tb storage capacity of the Note 10+ with 120 hz refresh from that design cycle that I'm aware of.

Question Got S21fe but I'm not sure if it was a good choice

Hi.
Just ordered S21fe 5g 256gb. With all the discounts and a 200£ trade in I paid £424 only. Which I consider a massive bargain. I traded in my old £0 value galaxy S6. Supper happy with the price.
Replacing my beloved s10e. I went for S21fe instead of s22 because of optical fingerprint reader instead of ultrasonic which allows me to use tempered glass on the screen and still be able to use the fp reader on S21fe. Also slightly bigger screen and bigger battery.
I just hope I won't regret my choice.
Any thoughts? Can anyone who already owns S21fe say whether they love it, hate it or have mixed relationships with it. Thanks

Hi!
As you, I had the S7 and then, the S10e.
2 weeks ago, I bought the S21 FE.... and I really love it!
I just miss the S10e's fingerprint! I find it more useful on the S10e !! When you grab the S10e, the fingerprint naturally falls under your thumb.... but except this, I prefer the S21 FE
I really don't understand why they don't place the fingerprint a few centimeters higher....

jbs68 said:
Hi!
As you, I had the S7 and then, the S10e.
2 weeks ago, I bought the S21 FE.... and I really love it!
I just miss the S10e's fingerprint! I find it more useful on the S10e !! When you grab the S10e, the fingerprint naturally falls under your thumb.... but except this, I prefer the S21 FE
I really don't understand why they don't place the fingerprint a few centimeters higher....
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Thanks for your reply.
And like you I think the fingerprint reader on the s10e is as good as it gets. The best possible placement.
I'm not a fan of in screen fingerprint readers at all but I guess it's something I'll need to get used to. All new phones have it for reasons unknown.

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All new phones have it for reasons unknow
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yes, to do like everyone else...

kierownikk said:
Hi.
Just ordered S21fe 5g 256gb. With all the discounts and a 200£ trade in I paid £424 only. Which I consider a massive bargain. I traded in my old £0 value galaxy S6. Supper happy with the price.
Replacing my beloved s10e. I went for S21fe instead of s22 because of optical fingerprint reader instead of ultrasonic which allows me to use tempered glass on the screen and still be able to use the fp reader on S21fe. Also slightly bigger screen and bigger battery.
I just hope I won't regret my choice.
Any thoughts? Can anyone who already owns S21fe say whether they love it, hate it or have mixed relationships with it. Thanks
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It depends on what you look for in a phone nowadays.
I personally hate the 3X telephoto. It's slow, blurry and feels like it belongs in the year 2015. It's really sad because there are older phones out there that outperform it. But this might be Samsung's camera software. If I use GCam It's way better, but GCam is really unstable with the S21 FE Snap.
I love everything else about it: price, size, UI, flat screen with no curves, weight, color, look, performance and especially video mode. It has really smooth transition between lenses when filming, and white balance is well calibrated for all of them. I've been through a few phones lately and watched a ton of reviews but came to the conclusion that this is the best bang for the buck right now. The alternatives are chinese phones with poor software and poor updates or Iphone but I'm too scared to change the ecosystem ).

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It depends on what you look for in a phone nowadays.
I personally hate the 3X telephoto. It's slow, blurry and feels like it belongs in the year 2015. It's really sad because there are older phones out there that outperform it. But this might be Samsung's camera software. If I use GCam It's way better, but GCam is really unstable with the S21 FE Snap.
I love everything else about it: price, size, UI, flat screen with no curves, weight, color, look, performance and especially video mode. It has really smooth transition between lenses when filming, and white balance is well calibrated for all of them. I've been through a few phones lately and watched a ton of reviews but came to the conclusion that this is the best bang for the buck right now. The alternatives are chinese phones with poor software and poor updates or Iphone but I'm too scared to change the ecosystem ).
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I've read about the telephoto camera issues which I hope will improve with software updates.
Everything else you mentioned is basically my kind of thing. Reasonable size, flat screen, performance, UI. It's all great. And I was considering different options, like Pixel 6 but it only comes with 128gb and apparently is buggy like hell. Also different Chinese options but like you I'm not only used to samsung's ecosystem but I also think it's the best best out there. And with good lock it's so customizable. I love it. I really wanted to go for S22 or even S22+ but my OCD would not allow me to buy it knowing that I won't be able to slap a piece of protective glass onto the screen because of the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. So S21fe it is I'm just hoping I get the Snapdragon version. I was trying to find some info whether it's a snapdragon or exynos in UK but couldn't find any confirmation. Apparently it's snapdragon but can also be exynos XD

kierownikk said:
I've read about the telephoto camera issues which I hope will improve with software updates.
Everything else you mentioned is basically my kind of thing. Reasonable size, flat screen, performance, UI. It's all great. And I was considering different options, like Pixel 6 but it only comes with 128gb and apparently is buggy like hell. Also different Chinese options but like you I'm not only used to samsung's ecosystem but I also think it's the best best out there. And with good lock it's so customizable. I love it. I really wanted to go for S22 or even S22+ but my OCD would not allow me to buy it knowing that I won't be able to slap a piece of protective glass onto the screen because of the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. So S21fe it is I'm just hoping I get the Snapdragon version. I was trying to find some info whether it's a snapdragon or exynos in UK but couldn't find any confirmation. Apparently it's snapdragon but can also be exynos XD
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Yeah, at least be sure you get a Snapdragon and everything should be perfectly fine.
Personally I'm now waiting for the S22 FE to see what's new. Changing phones is always a hard choice because usually I'm thinking that if my phone has an issue that I don't like, I can just buy a new one that doesn't have the same issue and I will be happy. But what actually happens is, I spend money on a new device, and although my initial problem is solved, I find ten other issues I hate. And it's like I'm starting this never ending journey of buying and testing phones which is stressful. And then I come to the conclusion that I should've kept the initial phone with it's silly issue. It's like breaking up with the love of your life for one stupid mistake and hooking up with another women that drives you insane. You end up regretting it )))

Randi03 said:
Yeah, at least be sure you get a Snapdragon and everything should be perfectly fine.
Personally I'm now waiting for the S22 FE to see what's new. Changing phones is always a hard choice because usually I'm thinking that if my phone has an issue that I don't like, I can just buy a new one that doesn't have the same issue and I will be happy. But what actually happens is, I spend money on a new device, and although my initial problem is solved, I find ten other issues I hate. And it's like I'm starting this never ending journey of buying and testing phones which is stressful. And then I come to the conclusion that I should've kept the initial phone with it's silly issue. It's like breaking up with the love of your life for one stupid mistake and hooking up with another women that drives you insane. You end up regretting it )))
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Haha I know exactly what you mean. That's how I feel breaking up with my S10e. Absolutely the best phone samsung has ever made imo. But it's getting old battery needs charging twice a day now. So new phone is needed but I really feel, well I know for sure that I'm going to miss that device.

Dammit it looks like it's going to be an exynos version. That totally just put me off. I'm now leaning towards keeping the s10e and returning the S21fe when it arrives today.
Shame but it is what it is.

Oh, sorry to hear that... If the S21 FE is an Exynos in your region this could mean that the regular S21 might be Snapdragon. I guess you could try that. I wanted to,but couldn't because in my region it's the exact opposite )

Randi03 said:
Oh, sorry to hear that... If the S21 FE is an Exynos in your region this could mean that the regular S21 might be Snapdragon. I guess you could try that. I wanted to,but couldn't because in my region it's the exact opposite )
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Unfortunately S21 is also exynos. Every samsung phone in UK is exynos. Balls
I watched a few comparison videos and I feel like that Exynos 2100 isn't all that bad really.

I couldn't say they are bad but I'm more interested in the camera quality and Exynos are notorious for having washed out images and videos with a lot of noise reduction applied. Also, one big difference is the constant performance of the processor. Snapdragon can keep up with the same task without loosing too much performance but Exynos cannot. Also, the fact that Samsung sells phones with the same name but with a totally different processor is also bugging me. If you are not that concerned about cameras then I guess the Exynos might be fine also.
I think this guy sums it best:

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I couldn't say they are bad but I'm more interested in the camera quality and Exynos are notorious for having washed out images and videos with a lot of noise reduction applied. Also, one big difference is the constant performance of the processor. Snapdragon can keep up with the same task without loosing too much performance but Exynos cannot. Also, the fact that Samsung sells phones with the same name but with a totally different processor is also bugging me. If you are not that concerned about cameras then I guess the Exynos might be fine also.
I think this guy sums it best:
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I don't play games on my phone so I'm not worried about heat or "constant performance" as it won't really affect me. And if I play any games they're usually non demanding puzzle kind of games so that's fine.
As for the photos yes I've seen some tests and exynos does slightly worse job when it comes to processing which is a bit annoying. Especially that in UK the exynos 256gb version is more expensive than snapdragon version in the US. £749 vs $749. 1:1 UK works out more expensive.
But I'm actually leaning towards keeping it anyway. For the price that I paid I can't really complain. £424 is almost half price so I think I can live with Exynos
It just arrived and is charging before I start transfering all my stuff from the S10e. Unfortunately this will be either later this evening or tomorrow morning because I'm on my way to work now. Either way I hope I won't be disappointed.

1 day with S21fe... I'm quite impressed. Apart from the fingerprint reader which will take time to get used to i don't have anything to complain about really. Screen size is great. Phone is fast and really nice to use.
So far so good.

Ha ha! As I anyway told you

Good for you happy to hear that, I hope you enjoy it until something better comes along.

I got my snapdragon s21 fe 2 weeks ago. It's a fantastic phone. Got it for 500 bucks with the galaxy watch 4 44mm included. Great game performance, fantastic main and uw cam. Dolby atmos and the 120hz amoled provide a fantastic media experience. One ui 4.1 is very intuitive and a welcome change after having a xiaomi phone. The only 2 gripes I have are the battery and the android 12 restrictions. The battery is average in everyday casual use, but intensive games drain it a bit too fast for my liking. And the android folder restrictions in android 12 are preventing me from modding games.

jbs68 said:
Ha ha! As I anyway told you
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Yeah you did haha. Thanks!
Randi03 said:
Good for you happy to hear that, I hope you enjoy it until something better comes along.
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I'll probably keep it for at least 2 years which I always do with my every phone. Had s10e for 2.5yrs.
So 2 years is definitely enough time for something better to come out

I finally found a file manager that bypasses folder restrictions on this phone. It's called MT manager

Did you tried Total Commander?