20w Wireless Charging? - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers

Gsmarena.com specs show 20 watt wireless charging. I thought it was 15w.

enginuity2 said:
Gsmarena.com specs show 20 watt wireless charging. I thought it was 15w.
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Samsung's new wireless charger shows 15w:
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...eless-charger-stand-15w-black-ep-n5200tbegus/

Been trying to figure this one out as well. For as may reviews and posts that say 20W, there's the same amount that says it's 15W.

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Question about 45w charging

I have the Huawei MateBook X Pro and it comes with an intelligent 65w charger.
It fast charges my S10+ and if I'm reading it correctly I believe it will charge the Note 10+ at 45w.
Can somebody take a look at the screenshot of the specs of the charger and tell me what they think.
Considering they both use PD, I'd be surprised if it didn't work appropriately.
Would you say this one would be compatible too?
https://www.amazon.com/Crave-PowerH...65734125&s=gateway&smid=A22FR1QUP6EAFM&sr=8-5
Gotta support PPS
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/08/13/galaxy-note10-plus-45w-charging/
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fatboypup said:
Gotta support PPS
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/08/13/galaxy-note10-plus-45w-charging/
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This one appears to be up to spec ... I'm going to roll the dice and try it
USB Type-C PD Charger Power Delivery 65W Portable Wall Charger Adapter for MacBook Pro, Nintendo Switch,Google Pixel, Moto Z Samsung Mate Book and More (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHCXW7P/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_bN1uDb1C79FH0
bp328i said:
I have the Huawei MateBook X Pro and it comes with an intelligent 65w charger.
It fast charges my S10+ and if I'm reading it correctly I believe it will charge the Note 10+ at 45w.
Can somebody take a look at the screenshot of the specs of the charger and tell me what they think.
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If you want FULL speed while charging (aka 30 mins from 0% to 100%) be sure it's a PD 3.0 charger.
Previous versions are OK, but they won't charge that fast.
PPS is needed for note 10+ 45W
To support the note 10+ 45W charging, the PPS feature is needed. But the 60W charger seems that not has this feature.
Crap, I was hoping my Huawei Mate 20 Pro's 40W charger will work in its full efficiency when used for the Note10+. Now I'm having doubts. Guess I'll just have to buy the $20 Xiaomi 45W PD 2.0 charger.
Edit: Seems like the Mate 20 Pro's 40W charger might indeed work since the forums linked from a few posts above mentions that the Note10+ will be using a specialized power setup (10V, 4.5A) and not the standard (15V, 3A) one. Since the Mate 20 Pro's charger is giving an output of 10V, 4A, I might be able to use the charger's full potential.
Hey, it's not 45W tho, but 40W charger is enough for me if it means I don't need to spend a few extra bucks.
I just did this today... with the 25W charger in the box - will do the same for the 45W charger (on order) when it arrives - which should put most of the questions in this thread to bed...View attachment 4810040
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It must support specific stepping in the PPS range.
I purchased the 75w charger listed below which supports up to 46w PD and PPS:
USB-C Output: (PDO) 5V 3A, 9V 3A, 12V 3A, 15V 3A, 20V 2.3A; (PPS) 3V–21V 3A
I have compared with the included 25w charger and charging speeds are currently identical. I am not seeing an increase from the 25w charger. Now this may be because I read somewhere the 45w PPS Samsung uses is special and draws up to 5A? Can anyone confirm or deny this?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07HJWMYH5
Also both my aftermarket charger and the stock 25w seem to take about 80 minutes to charge 0%-100%
mikevipe said:
It must support specific stepping in the PPS range.
I purchased the 75w charger listed below which supports up to 46w PD and PPS:
USB-C Output: (PDO) 5V 3A, 9V 3A, 12V 3A, 15V 3A, 20V 2.3A; (PPS) 3V–21V 3A
I have compared with the included 25w charger and charging speeds are currently identical. I am not seeing an increase from the 25w charger. Now this may be because I read somewhere the 45w PPS Samsung uses is special and draws up to 5A? Can anyone confirm or deny this?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07HJWMYH5
Also both my aftermarket charger and the stock 25w seem to take about 80 minutes to charge 0%-100%
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80 Minutes for the 25W charger in the box - while your phone is turned off? Your cable is causing issues... See my chart above...
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I am using the cable which came with the 25w charger, not sure why I am getting ~15m longer charge times.
mikevipe said:
I am using the cable which came with the 25w charger, not sure why I am getting ~15m longer charge times.
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Phone off (mine was)?
Charger plugged into the wall or an extension cord (mine was in wall)?
Note 10 or 10+ (mine was 10+)
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Which is the better option for wireless charger ?

Hi,
Which option would be better for my Galaxy S10+,
Anker PowerWave 7.5 Fast or Huawei 15W Quick Wireless Charger ?
https://www.anker.com/products/vari...arging-pad-with-internal-cooling-fan/B2514122
https://consumer.huawei.com/bh/accessories/wireless-charger/
HussainJH said:
Hi,
Which option would be better for my Galaxy S10+,
Anker PowerWave 7.5 Fast or Huawei 15W Quick Wireless Charger ?
https://www.anker.com/products/vari...arging-pad-with-internal-cooling-fan/B2514122
https://consumer.huawei.com/bh/accessories/wireless-charger/
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From the specs and price I would say the Huawei looks better. If it were me I would just go with a Samsung fast wireless charger. Amazon has them but make sure it's not a fake.
Huawei's wireless charger might not be compatible with Samsung's already very slow Wireless Fast Charge. I have a Xiaomi wireless charger that can charge up to 25W but it charged the S10+ at half the speed of a compatible wireless charger. The Samsung charger is better if you are going to purchase one that's branded by a phone maker. Of the two you are asking about the Anker is much more likely to be compatible with this phone and charge at the same speed as Samsung's charger.
Using an Anker one and everythings work fine
Samsung has their own wireless charger that charges at 15W (Android) 7.5W (iPhone) . Highest output on the market right now

55W QC3.0 Charger

Is it just me or is there no 55W Charger to buy from 3. party manufacturers? I find adapters with the same output but 36W and QC3.0.
Official adapter is not that expensive but shipping costs around 10 Euro for me... That's almost the same as the adapter itself.
Psylou said:
Is it just me or is there no 55W Charger to buy from 3. party manufacturers? I find adapters with the same output but 36W and QC3.0.
Official adapter is not that expensive but shipping costs around 10 Euro for me... That's almost the same as the adapter itself.
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I'm using my MacBook charger that's 65 watt pd and I'm getting some really good charging speeds. Just ordered the 55 watt from website will test when I get
joemossjr said:
I'm using my MacBook charger that's 65 watt pd and I'm getting some really good charging speeds. Just ordered the 55 watt from website will test when I get
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Any news about it charging faster, I'm waiting for my 55 w charger from giztop , hopefully get it soon.
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Haven't gotten it yet
Charging is capped to 25w (roughly) when using third party chargers (including PPS).
In a few days I'll have logs/charts I'll be sharing to show the difference in charging speeds and the actual RM5 charging speed - as it isn't 55w.
samussamus1 said:
Charging is capped to 25w (roughly) when using third party chargers (including PPS).
In a few days I'll have logs/charts I'll be sharing to show the difference in charging speeds and the actual RM5 charging speed - as it isn't 55w.
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Be sure to check that usb3 shape is capped to 25 or 30w and the usb c is capped to 60 W
Red Magic 5G with 55W Nubia charger here.
Measuring charging wattage shows a maximum of 30W pulled from the charger, not once has it reached 55w.
Third party chargers reach 27w max, including PPS.
I've got all sorts of chargers here, PD/QC4+/QC3.0 ranging up to 60W.
The original Nubia charger not only charges the fastest, but also keeps the phone much cooler.
Third party chargers seem to warm the device that much more to the point that sometimes thermal throttling kicks in.
samussamus1 said:
Red Magic 5G with 55W Nubia charger here.
Measuring charging wattage shows a maximum of 30W pulled from the charger, not once has it reached 55w.
Third party chargers reach 27w max, including PPS.
I've got all sorts of chargers here, PD/QC4+/QC3.0 ranging up to 60W.
The original Nubia charger not only charges the fastest, but also keeps the phone much cooler.
Third party chargers seem to warm the device that much more to the point that sometimes thermal throttling kicks in.
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I got this charger for the phone : https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B07Z6B5RZ1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And thix cable: https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B07QPNRGYH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And yes, it's capped. I get like 5400 mA / 4300 mV charge speed with an third part app that measures the speed.
If they said that the phone has 55W charge and I got roughly 25W, that's false advertising, isn't it?
Even the original one doesn't seem to charge that fast!
P.S. I was only charging the phone in the moment I realized the test
P.S.2 I bought this adapter because there is no option of buying a 55W adapter for the EU from the official store

Accessories Compatible charger

Which chargers other than the original stock and the Spigen one will charge the Pixel 6 Pro at full 30w?
I see there are 30w from Anker and even Amazon Basic, would these charge at full speed?
You just need a PD 3.0 (or higher version) compatible charger that can do 30w or more. The rest matters not, it's an industrial standard.
cd993 said:
Which chargers other than the original stock and the Spigen one will charge the Pixel 6 Pro at full 30w?
I see there are 30w from Anker and even Amazon Basic, would these charge at full speed?
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Thanks for the clarification!
MAGIX Wall Charger PD Quick Charge 3.0 30W , USB Type-C, AC 100-240V to DC 5V 9V 12V 15V 20V (Qc 1.0 2.0 Compatible) (UK Plug)(White): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Shop MAGIX Wall Charger PD Quick Charge 3.0 30W , USB Type-C, AC 100-240V to DC 5V 9V 12V 15V 20V (Qc 1.0 2.0 Compatible) (UK Plug)(White). Free delivery and returns on eligible orders.
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Just bought this ready!
Guess I'll use my prior OnePlus Warp speed charger! LOL
Part of me wants to be fancy and get the pixel stand 2nd gen, but in all honesty I don't think I'm that fussed about having all the exclusive features like gallery showing pictures etc so to be fair I may just get a standard wireless charger, but even then I'm not that fussed charging it wirelessly, I think I just like the concept of standing it up lol
galaxys said:
Guess I'll use my prior OnePlus Warp speed charger! LOL
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Same here. I'll slap my new Pixel on there and see what happens.
galaxys said:
Guess I'll use my prior OnePlus Warp speed charger! LOL
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Will these chargers work at 30w on the Pixel? I have a ton of these at this point, including a car charger. Would be cool if they worked correctly at full speed.
I bought an extra (already got one) original 45W charger. I know it's overkill and a rip off, but whatever. At least it will charge just about anything USB Type-C, right?
This is like $7 with their instant coupon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09655FJDB?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image
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Will these chargers work at 30w on the Pixel? I have a ton of these at this point, including a car charger. Would be cool if they worked correctly at full speed.
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Don't know yet, but hopefully we can test it out soon...
30W and 50W WARP wireless charging is only for OnePlus phones. The OnePlus 30W wireless charger does max. Qi charge at 10W, and the OnePlus 50W wireless charger does max. Qi charge at 15W.
The Pixel phones are locked at max. Qi charge of 12W with any wireless charger other than Google's wireless charger.
That's no where near the 23W capability from Google wireless charger.
See here: https://9to5google.com/2021/10/19/pixel-6-tidbits-plastic-top-wireless-charging/
Edit: I think I misread someone's question...my post was only directed towards wireless charging.
I believe Samsung chargers use the PD standard and should deliver a fast charge.
Any PD charger of at least 30W will give you the max charge speed. I doubt there will be a big difference using the 18W Pixel chargers from older phones. I'll be using a 10W wireless charging pad I got on Amazon a couple years ago that is connected to an 18W Pixel charger. It will charge overnight so how long it takes doesn't matter. I use this charger for my Pixelbook. It has 2 PD ports and a usb-a port. It will work for the new Pixels and does super fast charging for the new Samsung phones. A phone will only draw as much power as it is rated for so the 65W rating won't hurt your phone. It would charge 2 Pixel 6's at the same time at 30W.
xgerryx said:
Will these chargers work at 30w on the Pixel? I have a ton of these at this point, including a car charger. Would be cool if they worked correctly at full speed.
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I can't confirm, but I'm 99% sure they will not charge at 30w. OnePlus does 5V at 6A to get 30W. This is not a PD standard. At best you'll get 5V3A so 15W.
Morgrain said:
You just need a PD 3.0 (or higher version) compatible charger that can do 30w or more. The rest matters not, it's an industrial standard.
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I have this charger https://zendure.com/products/superport-s3 it's a dual PD 65W charger and it still charges my Pixel6P at a ridiculously slow pace. Even with adaptive charging off. It's also a USB 3.0 charger that charges all my other devices very fast except for my P6P so there has to be something more to it IMHO.
EDIT: According to this article https://www.androidauthority.com/best-google-pixel-6-chargers-3041818/ There are 3 standards required USB 3.0, PD and PPS mine doesn't appear to have the latter so maybe that's why.
It can't be any PD 3.0. It has to support PPS protocol. Most charges that don't explicitly state that they support are not good (for P6/P6P 30W charging). For example this anker one is PD3.0 PPS one.
Z0ld3n said:
It can't be any PD 3.0. It has to support PPS protocol. Most charges that don't explicitly state that they support are not good (for P6/P6P 30W charging). For example this anker one is PD3.0 PPS one.
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This is the right answer.
Make sure it supports PPS.
I got a GaN one with PPS support up to 65W for 30€ on Amazon.
It's nice the pixel 6 tells you whether your connection is a fast or slow charge. I picked up a $16 PD PPS charger at AMZN and the P6P shows it is fast charging. The AMZN listing showed it as iphone 13 series compatible but no mention of the Pixel 6 line.
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It's nice the pixel 6 tells you whether your connection is a fast or slow charge. I picked up a $16 PD PPS charger at AMZN and the P6P shows it is fast charging. The AMZN listing showed it as iphone 13 series compatible but no mention of the Pixel 6 line.
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Because to some people only Apple exists and marketing material MUST mention Apple. All other OEMs are an afterthought.
Luckily, all other OEMs also aren't Apple, hence they tend to prefer standards over proprietary crap, so 99% of the time you can assume that accessories will work anyway.

Accessories Google Pixel 6 Pro Car Chargers

Please post car chargers with links, pics that work with P6P 30w max charge.
JGuinan007 said:
Please post car chargers with links, pics that work with P6P 30w max charge.
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Any USB-C PD 30W charger should work. Check out Amazon. If you want you can get a PPS charger, but PPS is not necessary.
Please note the Pixel 6 only supports 22 watt fast charging.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071WYF9HP?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071WYF9HP?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
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Not a PPS charger and Anker apparently does not have one for cars.
Something like this would be slightly better and future proof:
https://www.amazon.com/VELOGK-Charger-Adaptive-Adapter-Charging/dp/B08TBQ6H2N/
LLStarks said:
Not a PPS charger and Anker apparently does not have one for cars.
Something like this would be slightly better and future proof:
https://www.amazon.com/VELOGK-Charger-Adaptive-Adapter-Charging/dp/B08TBQ6H2N/
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works fine, charges fast
BTW, charging tests with the new 30w Google charger and the Google charger from my 2XL were almost identical anyway...if the phone only charges at 22W, then any charger over 22W is sufficient...
That's absolutely false. If you have some random Quick Charge or proprietary charger at 30W or higher, it will not charge at 22W. Might only charge at 10W, not even 15W or 18W.
My Warp Charge 30 bricks can only do 10W.
Charger must have at least PD support.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YY7KQZP/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_X2A31DX9F4R980FXB9V5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This one does have 30w but isn't PPS so don't think it'll actually hit the 22w since that's how Google's limited the charging.
LLStarks said:
That's absolutely false. If you have some random Quick Charge or proprietary charger at 30W or higher, it will not charge at 22W. Might only charge at 10W, not even 15W or 18W.
My Warp Charge 30 bricks can only do 10W.
Charger must have at least PD support.
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To get the limited 22w charging that Google's put on the 6 Pro you do need PPS. The fastest PD will do is 18w.
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Amazon.com
plus
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093BP4RM2 stuck to outside of my case.
It's not the prettiest solution, but seems to work well. No more cables to mess with. Just throw the phone on the pad and drive off. Probably not the fastest charger, but it's enough to run GPS and music, while still gaining charge, which is all I need.
Make sure the wireless charger supports the 15W Qi EPP (extended power profile) feature.
Otherwise you're stuck at 5W. Most no-name charging pads or cars with built-in wireless charging have been falling into this category but newer ones like the Tucson are 15W.
I'd like to know what the phone and Pixel Stand expect for 23W charging.
This Spigen is nice, name brand, high quality charger. It doesn't fit in one of my cars though, it's too short. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08PRZ815M/
LLStarks said:
Not a PPS charger and Anker apparently does not have one for cars.
Something like this would be slightly better and future proof:
https://www.amazon.com/VELOGK-Charger-Adaptive-Adapter-Charging/dp/B08TBQ6H2N/
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Received mine yesterday and was pleasantly surprised it came with a long, braided Type-C cable. I didn't actually read the description. There was a $6 coupon so I jumped on it. Will try to test and see how much current it outputs later this evening.
Considering I was at 36% the 4,148A charge current is pretty good. The highest I've seen with a PPS wall charge was 4400+.
I would've gained more in 28 minutes but 25 of it had YouTube running. Don't worry I pay attention to the road. The screen off %/h is right up there with my PPS wal charger.
I use my OnePlus 9 Pro car charger for my pixel and it does great!
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I use my OnePlus 9 Pro car charger for my pixel and it does great!
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This one? That would be interesting if it really charges well for you because everyone else I've seen has had issues with OnePlus charges because it's not even Power Delivery. This one in particular is either the Warp Charge 5V=6A max or old slow 5V=2A charging.
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That's absolutely false. If you have some random Quick Charge or proprietary charger at 30W or higher, it will not charge at 22W. Might only charge at 10W, not even 15W or 18W.
My Warp Charge 30 bricks can only do 10W.
Charger must have at least PD support.
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Not to mention warp charge is completely propriety, requires specific circuitry in the phone and a USB lead with non standard wiring.
Is this good for pixel 6 charging because it's 5v-3amp, I have it already but just want to confirm if it is good enough and will not effect battery health in long run since it is 15w while charging.
30W car charger with QC3.0 and 3A USB-C port
Charge your devices faster than other conventional car chargers with Scud-C30, a heavy-duty car charger with 2 ultra-fast charging ports and a USB-C charging port. The Quick Charge 3.0 port is engineered to be up to 45% more efficient than Quick Charge 2.0. The USB charging ports built into...
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Planning to go for this if it is good enough or someone tried it.
.https://www.amazon.ae/UGREEN-Charger-Adapter-Charging-Compatible/dp/B094DFW7T7/ref=asc_df_B094DFW7T7/?tag=shoppingstd03-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=536270986798&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13302605630687776260&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1000010&hvtargid=pla-1428198677430&psc=1
one thing I suggest, is don't skimp out on a car charger. many years ago, I messed up a few phones using crappy car chargers. the Zus Smart Charger is the best car charger I've ever used. the quality is incredible. its half price in the US at $16.99 (they should pay me or something!) -
Smart Car Charger
Our car phone charger does more than charging your devices via USB. Track your trip, monitor battery health, and find your car with our car charger. Shop now!
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it's not the fastest, it charges my 6Pro at like 1200mah or so...but the quality alone is worth it. I've been using it since 2017 and I've charged all my pixels and tablets with it.
this might be the best kept secret - just for the app, that anyone can use for free!
I just wanted to add;; their app is pretty cool, the car charger will show your Voltage level for your car battery and a ton of other things. Their app also connects to any OBD-II adapter via bluetooth and you can have a ton of cool telemetry appear on your phone (like revs, speed, engine temps etc , for those who like that sorta thing). and it will help you find your parked car if you forget where you parked ha! last year they were sending out free OBD_II adapters (but you can use any) and with their free app that anybody can use, you can use it to log your drives by mileage and a ton of other features. it's pretty slick !!
but if you want a crazy fast car charger, the anker that someone posted above is excellent - but in the car, which is usually really hot, I don't want anything fast charging. keeping things cool is what I'm all about//

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