Someone said to place all new music in internal and then it will be recognized.
Another way is to clear app's data.
Really? No refresh option? Cmon Samsung.
Well I had started the phone over at the time of my prev post..right now thats 3+ hrs ago and that shutdown / startup was after a total data clear in the apps settings Samsung Music app storage, and a unmount of the ext sd.
I just think it is interesting to see the difference in the Samsung indexing compared to the vlc indexing for my music. VLC takes upwards of a half hour. Samsung however has taken over three hours and is not nearly done yet. Of 7 or 8 newly added music folders, still only 3 have showed up (folders tab allows for sort by recently added).
It looks like a 6 hour indexing job or at the very least 4. Probably 6 as I just happened to look down and saw the tail end of some kind of toast notification of passing the first 10000 song point of loading.
Pretty tarded app. REALLY needs a refresh button if it is this slow to index.
But it does look good scrolling thru all the albun covers.
Just had a thought...hope it isn't screwing with my custom created artworks. That would be totally uncalled for.
No checking on a jpg file it remains at its original shape and size.
I have been watching this indexing of the music by the Samsung Music app, very closely.
It returned both positive quantities and negatives so far.
I consider this to be one of the best sets of native apps of any phone so far, but the music app being the only AOD enablable app for lockscreen music has me baffled and disappointed. Though not entirely.
On one hand it is really blows it in that it has taken over 6 hours so far and only 3 of 8 of my newly added folders have been loaded.
Additionally it misses the ball on SEVERAL of the artwork configurations which VLC (not supported in AOD) picks up easily.
First the pro column, it looks good in album view and scrolls real smooth, without using 7 GB for APP Data (which is what vlc takes to run my music collection) (where is it storing the data? is my question here); refer to screenshots 1, 3 &4 &8.
However, there is a small number of album arts missing, and more than expected albums in the 'Unknown Album' position of the 'U's in the alphabet. Which indicates to me that there could be some id tag misrecognition or unrecognition someplaces;
refer to screenshot 15 &16.
Finally the Samsung native music app sees the artwork as different in albums where different songs have different artworks, but only in instances where those arts and songs are nested in separate folders. Such as my version of the Pulp Fiction soundtrack.
In cases where the artworks were embedded separately in the songs of a compilation to show their original album arts, which is how I did the Word Of Mouth compilation, (which I also screenshotted here from the Samsung file manager which displays that in the file manager we can see the individually embedded songs embedded arts in its little file manager thumbnail) there is no individually embedded artwork recognition in the AOD enabled samsung music app. The lockscreen displays show that VLC will have these Word Of Mouth albun arts as different.
Seen in the remaining screenshots:
It's not the only AOD enabled music app. Good play music works just fine as do others.
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It's not the only AOD enabled music app. Good play music works just fine as do others.
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I am of course speaking of the following always on display as seen in the following screenshot
(though I haven't tried those other apps) ...and not the screenshots in my prior post which are lockscreen shots.
Meanwhile after a decharge today from 100% down to now 44%, it has still not indexed my music files completely as at least one folder is still not seen atop the latest folders list. Most of them just showed up in the last hour or two though. About 24 hours so far since it started.
Presumably it must be storing all these artworks in the system, they are all there as I scroll the lists.
As my sd isn't formatted to the phone but only external.
Man, just buy a better sd card and dont blame the phone for this or atleast try to format this one and try again.
Man. Maaaaan haha. Don't tell people what to do. Aggression indicated stupidity thats just stupid you know. Literally. Loser. I bet you don't even keep any music on your phone. Probably using Spotify. Not me I'm from a different generation. We used to buy physical copies of our music albums, and carry them around with us. The music then was better too.
The phone must be using some sort of sdcard block by block scan eh. It still finding items on the thing. Not exactly a normal method to find files. I'm guessing it locates the head folder, but in my case it's a complex tree.
So if it is the sdcard being 500 GB card. That's a pretty good sized card anyway.
But it is still finding stuff screenshotted it then left it over night (after charge and restart) and it added some 10 more albums or so to the list.
It's not about size of card, but read/write speed, the slower the card the longer it takes for the phone to update the album arts.
I have no problem with this app. I have 6 GB music files in my SD card and it loads all albums and album arts immediately when I open the app. My SD card is Samsung Evo+ 128GB.
Slowly now. Latest rate appears to be finding about 1/hr. Samsung card. Singly written. Couple months old. EVO.
Also it is really fast to load those arts once it finds the absolute block in the SD cards file system.. VLC has always been ultra slow at loading all the music. If one were to attempt to enter an artist heading in VLC or album heading, it could take minutes to resolve the artist or album.
This app has its negative points, but it also has its positive points. I am not here to criticize the app. I am here making a point to observe it. Really pleased with the Samsung apps as I said in the op. The keyboard and the file manager I especially like. The points where the music app slips in finding some arts are probably gonna be repairable by changing out the few non functional music files on a case by case basis.
Seriously fast app for loading the musics and arts. real time jump anywhere in the list by track or albun. Very pleased.
VLC vs Samsung data usage stat for 300 GB of music. this app is like a window to my SD card.
Samsung s native music app is trash honestly.
I would recommend a alternative like vinyl player or black player.
Not pleased again. Used Smart Switch to do a phone backup, took out the sd card, put back in, restored the backup, and now it is re-indexing the music again. So once again my latest added folders are not here. Once again can't listen to my newest adds like Madonna's GHV2 for example, if I wanted to (with the Samsung music app, at least). Which blows.
I thought once it built its music index it would store it in the permanent. now back to square 1.
I'm glad i don't mess around with this stuff any more. I uploaded all my music to Google Play Music and never looked back. Available anywhere, on any device with internet and i can always download music from Play Music if i really need to. I don't have any need to carry thousands of albums in my pocket.
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I'm glad i don't mess around with this stuff any more. I uploaded all my music to Google Play Music and never looked back. Available anywhere, on any device with internet and i can always download music from Play Music if i really need to. I don't have any need to carry thousands of albums in my pocket.
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That's cool. is that a sharable playlist or what? I can't say as I've heard of that one how does it work? You pay a subscription fee or what?
I have purchased a few albuns off of Google play store but I don't like the feeling of staying connected to the internet. So I can't rely on the internet.
Really ridiculous this app is slowly reloading those folders again. This all started cause I heard from the Samsung store that they could replace my carrier version of the software with something from Samsung. Which they then failed to do. Not something I would do very often.
Massive deceleration curve for this indexing thing. Been screenshotting the progress over the past several hours. The window over thr albums holds it's viewpoint above the list. Say it was started in the 4th quarter of the Alphabet (by albun population) at album number 1200, after 400 albums are added it enters the third quarter by going through first the T's backwards from Tzolkin Date to T Rex.Then on into the S's rising towards the top but staying at a viewpoint of album #1200 in the list, which now would have over 1600
While the population happens over a graph of time on the x axis. The y axis charts the speed of albums added. The curve is hyperbolic deceleration over time.
Last time the indexing was being completed, I saw a few albums still being added. (before the restart happened today).
Between 5 or 1 (guestimated but def. odd numbered amount) entries appeared sometime after noon today as shown in the following two screenshots. Seen by the shift of the Title on the upper left into the right column. This happened around 60 hours after the start of indexing Tuesday evening.
I think send feedback to developer of app and till they fix the problem try another app , i use Poweramp for years for all my music needs
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I've got a UK Touch Pro 2 from Orange with the official latest Windows 6.1 (!) ROM on it, and transferred about 10 songs from itunes onto it earlier. So far, so good.
I then decided actually I don't wat those songs, so I managed to delete them from the storage card, but they're all still showing up on the 'Now Playing' list along with little exclamation marks as if to say it (obviously) can't find them any more.
Does anyone know how I can clear this list??
Many thanks!
Hi --
I've been spending a lot (read "too much") time with the TF3D audio app recently, loading lots of music, so I have experience with your issue.
Basically, the Now Playing list will not reset until you "make" a new one, i.e. until you choose to play something else and thus have something else "Now Playing." Strange, but that's how it works...
The easiest way is to go into the Library, and choose one of the following that DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY OF THE DELETED SONGS: 1) an album; 2) a playlist; or 3) an artist. Then select any song from that category. The music player should now bring you back to the Music tab home screen, and you'll notice that only the songs from that category will be in Now Playing. When you go back into the Library the deleted song listings should now be gone completely.
Thanks jasmithers, a very useful tip - I shall give it a try!
The Touchflo music appears to be quite worthless. I cannot get the app to identify any artists, albums, genres, etc. I have approx 1400 songs in the sd card and it finds nothing.
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The Touchflo music appears to be quite worthless. I cannot get the app to identify any artists, albums, genres, etc. I have approx 1400 songs in the sd card and it finds nothing.
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If you mean that the tracks don't show up at all, perhaps they are in a DRM format, e.g. iTunes' .aac, that the music player can't read?
If you mean that the tracks show up but the artist/album/genre ID doesn't show, perhaps the data hasn't been entered into the tracks? On your computer, right-click on one of your music files, choose "Properties," and see if it brings up any info. If not, you can manually enter it (although it's a time-intensive process).
The TF3D music player keeps losing the indexed list of songs by artists, albums, genres. I will go to Winmo media player and scan for songs. The TF3D music player uses the scanned list from media player but it seems to lose the list after some action that I have not identified. Should not be this difficult.
I've been trying to figure this out on my own for a while and haven't made any headway. I have about 3gb of music on the internal memory and about 10gb on my 16gb memory card.
In general I am having trouble getting all of my music to be seen and to play. In the HTC music player most if not all of the albums show up, but are missing songs and the like. DoubleTwist doesn't see any of the songs in the internal memory and has the same issue with not seeing all of the songs on each album. The cubed media player shows 89 albums of "unknown" artist that contain a bunch of the songs that aren't showing where they are supposed to, but have a length of 0:00.
All of the music appears when I browse the card in astro.
I've tried using SongBird's FolderSync to copy the music and I've used doubleTwist, along with just dragging and dropping the music folders. It seems no matter what I have some set of the same issues.
What are people doing to actually get all of their music to copy and play properly?
me too...finally someone else who is seeing the same issue....EVERY 2.2 ROM has done.this and it DID NOT group almost everything into an (UNKNOWN) artist folder ...
I've noticed no media player will read artist folders properly..root explorer and astrology...(file managers) have no problem seeing the files and the proper names its just the phone and its media reader
1900 songs on my media card and 1700 of them are grouped as unknown makes media player almost unusable...
Also I've noticed that if u are looking at artists and go to album view it even reads those and orders those properly but still lists them as unknown artist
anyone have ANY insight would be awesome
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I have spent about 2 days now tagging and retagging my music. I have about 2700 songs all on my internal storage and was upset when it went from being mostly, properly, sorted to all "Unknown Artist". I tagged and retagged and then tagged some more. I changed the album art and double checked all of it time and time again. I've formatted the memory, restarted the phone, flashed an updated ROM and have yet to figure it out.
I am currently using Virtuous 2.5. I had the issue using Virtuous 2.1 and 2.3 and Adrynalyne's Third Wave (but not his FrankenROM). It's pretty annoying. I am hoping that someone can shed the light on this issue. I haven't heard many people talk about it, but it is one of my main issues with 2.2 thus far.
I guess that I'm lucky to have a main gripe be something as trivial as the way it sorts the media, though.
Glad I'm not the only one, but really, did re-tagging help? I don't have the time to do all of that. A lot of my files won't even play, even though they appear on the card in Astro and have a reasonable file size. They show up in the media players as 0:00 length.
Anyone have any success? Is this a 2.2 issue? It occured on SkyRaider 2.5.2, 3.0, and the latest Virtuous ROM.
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Glad I'm not the only one, but really, did re-tagging help? I don't have the time to do all of that. A lot of my files won't even play, even though they appear on the card in Astro and have a reasonable file size. They show up in the media players as 0:00 length.
Anyone have any success? Is this a 2.2 issue? It occured on SkyRaider 2.5.2, 3.0, and the latest Virtuous ROM.
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The extensive tagging did nothing. It made me feel better, because I know that everything is right, but little more than that.
It seems like it is a 2.2 issue of some kind, I'm just not sure of where or what it is. Which is why I came here. I don't see many other posts concerning this issue, so I assume we are either a minority or are missing something very simple.
I just looked through my music more closely after a new sync using the new version of doubleTwist. It looks like the HTC Media Player is not seeing the first 4 or 5 tracks of my albums on the SD card. It looks like it is seeing most of the music on the internal memory.
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I just looked through my music more closely after a new sync using the new version of doubleTwist. It looks like the HTC Media Player is not seeing the first 4 or 5 tracks of my albums on the SD card. It looks like it is seeing most of the music on the internal memory.
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I ran a Media Go (some piece of garbage Sony syncing software) and Windows Media Player sync today. I synced them right over the top of each other, hoping that at least one of them would work. I see a lot of album art and I see a whole lot of songs, but for some unknown reason the Artists are all "Unknown".
Every. Last. One.
I have them split into albums and I've got plenty of songs that seem to be set up properly and have the art that goes with them, but under the "Artist" tab, it refuses to recognize. I never had this problem when I first got my phone and I am sure it has something to do with the newer ROMs.
Again, I don't see many people talking about this... so, I have to be a minority or an idiot. Maybe both. Hopefully I can get the problem fixed. I'm going to go on a tagging spree and try to get a dozen or so songs working so that maybe I can spend another couple of days getting all 2700 or so songs working. =(
Alright.
I did some digging. It turns out that there are either more people with EVOs or they communicate far better than the Incredible community, because I found several threads pertaining to issues similar to this with the EVO.
Thread 747895 right here on XDA.
Android Central has a post about a similar issue - (32456) problems-music-player-after-update under the Droid Incredible section.
Basically, it looks like WMA and AAC files refuse to acknowledge their tags, properly. Sorting them by song name or into folders by album seems to help a little, but the tracks still seem to have issues recognizing artists and track numbers.
There are other problems, apparently, but these seem to be the ones mostly likely upsetting my music player.
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I first documented this issue here, but did not have info at the time that is also affects AAC files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773905
Go to the google Code reporting thread, sign into google, and star the thread so it will get some bloody attention.
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...ag&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
Update - I discovered that the doubleTwist player will read the ID3 tags properly, so it is obviously not depending on whatever item in Froyo is messing this up that the other players are. The one downside is that it currently does not ignore ring tones, alarms and notification tones stored on the SD card. This is supposed to be addressed int the next upcoming version.
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Update - I discovered that the doubleTwist player will read the ID3 tags properly, so it is obviously not depending on whatever item in Froyo is messing this up that the other players are. The one downside is that it currently does not ignore ring tones, alarms and notification tones stored on the SD card. This is supposed to be addressed int the next upcoming version.
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Using Songbird 1.8 and the MSC plug-in, I transcoded my library to OGG and it is working perfectly. DoubleTwist no longer sees any music, but the HTC player is working well and cubed seems to be running well, except for not seeing any music on the internal memory.
The bug is clearly in how the music players are reading the MP4 files from iTunes. F-ing Apple.
I love the Android system. I loved my Hero and I love my EVO. But it's **** like this that makes me question just how serious is Google about beating Apple because sometimes they seem to do a really half-ass job.
DISCLAIMER: I do not want to use a 3rd party music app because I should not HAVE to use a 3rd party music app. The stock app should JUST WORK.
Anyway... All my music goes through iTunes for tagging and importing album art. I do NOT use 'albumart.jpg.' I just embed the cover into the mp3 using iTunes.
So my obvious question is: why does the stock music app only show SOME of my album art????????????? Why has this not been resolved in the past how many ever years????
What's more is that not only does it not show my album art for some songs, but it shows the WRONG aka, album art from OTHER songs in some songs! For example: in song B it will show the album art from song F. Yet in iTunes, Winamp, my iPod, Windows Explorer, it shows the correct art!
If it didn't want to show any art for some I'd just say, forget it. But it drives me up a ****ing wall when it completely screws up the covers!
I don't have any albumart.jpg's or any other cover jpgs that would point to a cover! I've scanned that SD card thoroughly! I even wiped cache, dalvik-cache!
WTF?!!? This is a question and a rant in one...
And don't tell me, use MixZing or use Cubed - I know they work, I've tried them - my point is, this is the ONLY platform where little things like this are screwed up!
Telling me to use a 3rd party app to circumvent a "FEATURE" that works everywhere else is not a suggestion of a better program, it is admitting that you too believe Android is inferior and you need 3rd party apps to make it work right.
Any suggestions other than "use another app" are welcome.
Actually, this is NOT the only platform where things like this get screwed up. My gf's ipod gets album art wrong all the time, and she gets all of her music directly from itunes.
I never have this problem with my EVO, but all of my music is either from Amazon MP3 or ripped from CDs that I own.
Oh, and why are you so against using a 3rd party app? You do realize that the stock music player is just an app....right? Android isn't based around media consumption like iOS, it's more of a multi-purpose OS. YOU choose the apps you want to make the OS your own. It doesn't mean the OS is inferior. If anything it makes it BETTER.
Of course, if you like to have everything the same as everyone else, I hear Verizon has a new phone coming out on Feb. 10th that you will probably like.
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I put together my own mp3 files/tags/album art myself; sometimes using iTunes if I am working on it at work. Where do you get your music from? Are you sure the information was correct for the files you were attempting to play? So far I have always seen album art for any song I was playing and I cannot ever remember seeing wrong album art. I use the stock player in cyanogenmod 6 and now 7.
How exactly are you inserting the album art in itunes? You're not just using the "get album artwork" functionality and calling it a day, are you?
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How exactly are you inserting the album art in itunes? You're not just using the "get album artwork" functionality and calling it a day, are you?
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Unless you use one of the scripts out there to embed it, all iTunes is creating is a metadata link. It doesn't insert anything.
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Unless you use one of the scripts out there to embed it, all iTunes is creating is a metadata link. It doesn't insert anything.
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Yep, exactly why I asked the question
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My cover art got mixed up before. There are a couple free "album art grabbers" on the market that I've used, they got right. I had to use the app to clear existing album art, then hit "fetch missing art ", then let it do its thing. It was easy, and worked for me.
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I've never been a fan of album art, or at least not of the way its set up on whatever.
My ipod, my evo, windows media player, etc. Its always getting flipped around. Sometimes with albums i download, they come with the cover art, and that art always gets switched with a different album.
I've gotten into the habit of just deleting all album art i find on any devices. It saves hassle. I agree, its a stupid thing, but I don't think its necessarily google's fault. Its just errors with file names, etc.
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I love the Android system. I loved my Hero and I love my EVO. But it's **** like this that makes me question just how serious is Google about beating Apple because sometimes they seem to do a really half-ass job.
DISCLAIMER: I do not want to use a 3rd party music app because I should not HAVE to use a 3rd party music app. The stock app should JUST WORK.
Anyway... All my music goes through iTunes for tagging and importing album art. I do NOT use 'albumart.jpg.' I just embed the cover into the mp3 using iTunes.
So my obvious question is: why does the stock music app only show SOME of my album art????????????? Why has this not been resolved in the past how many ever years????
What's more is that not only does it not show my album art for some songs, but it shows the WRONG aka, album art from OTHER songs in some songs! For example: in song B it will show the album art from song F. Yet in iTunes, Winamp, my iPod, Windows Explorer, it shows the correct art!
If it didn't want to show any art for some I'd just say, forget it. But it drives me up a ****ing wall when it completely screws up the covers!
I don't have any albumart.jpg's or any other cover jpgs that would point to a cover! I've scanned that SD card thoroughly! I even wiped cache, dalvik-cache!
WTF?!!? This is a question and a rant in one...
And don't tell me, use MixZing or use Cubed - I know they work, I've tried them - my point is, this is the ONLY platform where little things like this are screwed up!
Telling me to use a 3rd party app to circumvent a "FEATURE" that works everywhere else is not a suggestion of a better program, it is admitting that you too believe Android is inferior and you need 3rd party apps to make it work right.
Any suggestions other than "use another app" are welcome.
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I like the music app, simple easy to use, I can scroll through text to find my album really quick, oh yeah apple screws up tags all the time, I have a collection of cd's burned from itunes and I am loading them back into my computer windows nor itunes knows whats on the disc
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Actually, this is NOT the only platform where things like this get screwed up. My gf's ipod gets album art wrong all the time, and she gets all of her music directly from itunes.
I never have this problem with my EVO, but all of my music is either from Amazon MP3 or ripped from CDs that I own.
Oh, and why are you so against using a 3rd party app? You do realize that the stock music player is just an app....right? Android isn't based around media consumption like iOS, it's more of a multi-purpose OS. YOU choose the apps you want to make the OS your own. It doesn't mean the OS is inferior. If anything it makes it BETTER.
Of course, if you like to have everything the same as everyone else, I hear Verizon has a new phone coming out on Feb. 10th that you will probably like.
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I was venting buddy, no need to be a ****. As for the iPod, I've never had album art problems, yet I do have them w/ the EVO. Both issues unlike yours so obviously not all devices are 100% perfect...
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How exactly are you inserting the album art in itunes? You're not just using the "get album artwork" functionality and calling it a day, are you?
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Nope, I don't do "get album artwork." I've done literally THOUSANDS of mp3s where I'd put them into an iTunes playlist and manually insert the album art through the "edit" or "get info" or whatever that menu is called. I'd say 80% of the time it works.
If I buy a song from iTunes, convert it to MP3 and put it on my EVO the album art ALWAYS works. If I have an album art-less MP3 and insert an album cover using iTunes, it only works about 80% of the time.
Anyway, this is moot now b/c I found out what the problem was. The album art was being cached on my EVO. I have 2 music folders inside my "Music" folder. I just renamed those 2 folders and the Music app now reads 97% of the album art that I've done through iTunes even old-ass MP3 from before there was album art, it works through iTunes.
Sorry to resurrect an old thread.
I am severely anal about my music collection. I have around 17000 songs in it over years of ripping and way too much money spent on Amazon MP3 . I use Media Monkey to make sure all my album art is correct, everything is tagged correctly, all files are named correctly. I even deleted all images for album art and had media monkey add them to the mp3 tags themselves. Believe me it's all fine in the various DLNA/uPnP apps I use in Android, iPad, and PC's (XBMC, 2Player, etc..)
Every time I pull a bunch of files down to my phone (Nexus S) the album art ends up getting screwed up with art with the wrong albums etc (I never pull anything but full albums). I've gone in and wiped the music player data and had it rescan.. Same thing.. A few will come up bad. It's annoying. I mean how hard is it to keep the art for specific MP3's in the database correctly. It doesn't feel like rocket science.
I haven't been able for the life of me figure out exactly why this is happening only on the Android music player.
I'm curious what the general consensus seems to be on WP7 users being forced to use the Zune software (as opposed to whatever they currently use on their computer, such as itunes). Do you think this creates an obstacle that may prevent some potential WP users from buying a WP7 device?
Zune software, for me, has been pretty buggy, sluggish, and problematic. The microsoft zune website only installs the 32 bit version - there's no option for the 64 bit version. I'm not sure if that's the reason for the app running so lamely on my computer and sucking up 20% of my i5 cpu.
Also, using the Zune software requires you not only to reorganize your music library, but to re-rate everything differently due to it having a completely different and limited 'ratings' system.
If Microsoft is interested in making things easy to use, adapting to their software should be as easy as possible. Zune is too big a change from the big music players currently being used by almost everyone.
Zune has been the best transition I've made in a long time. Windows media player is buggy and kinda does what it want, iOS is ram-hungry and too... Apple... i don't know how else to put it. Zune as a whole has been a clean transition and the first music player that almost seems like it knows me.
The transition hasn't been hard for me neither. But my music library is only around 7 gigs big.
My problems with the zune software are the following:
- Autoplaylists not as robust as in itunes. Cannot organize to your liking (only by some of their options).
- Autoplaylists refresh visually (they flicker every 5-6 seconds) and if you scroll down too far in a playlist, items appear as "not found" until the playlist refreshes itself and finds the files. This may sound confusing, but I'm basically saying this: Autoplaylists are very buggy.
-Uncustomizable UI (big fonts, lots of unused space, tons of marketplace links hogging up space).
-App takes up around 170mb, compared to 80mb for itunes. It also hogs your cpu (my i5 is at 15-20%, no matter what 'display' setting I have enabled)
-Cannot sync with anything but a zune or WP. Now that zune is discontinued, this software is officially only good for windows phones.
-Cannot tweak playback volume of individual songs, like you can in itunes.
-Cannot set start/end points, like you can in itunes.
-Cannot edit MANY id3 tag fields, such as comments.
-UI is sluggish compared to the basic text-based itunes UI.
-No global hotkeys - aside from next, previous, and play/pause, there are no shortcuts you can hit when the app is not in focus (such as change media player volume, fastforward, etc).
-When minimized, app toolbar flickers between song name, artist, and album. This is distracting. It should simply display the song title in the toolbar, and thats it. No blinking please.
-No minimize to notification area feature.
-Scrolling up and down too fast or too far is slow and stuttery. I've tried this on different computers that are more powerful and this is just how it is.
-The rating system.
-Disliked songs shouldn't play in a mix unless you manually click them (similarly to unchecked songs in itunes).
-Liked and 'unrated' songs are considered the two positive ratings, while dislike is the negative rating. this is weird but fine. However, if you sort songs by 'rating', it sorts Liked->Disliked->Unrated. What sense does this make?
-The 'check for updates' button doesnt work. Sends me an error. I've reinstalled the app twice now.
-Cannot show date of song, date added, etc columns in ANY of the apps views, other than the 'songs' view. Really irritating. You cant change the order of columns in anything other than 'song' view as well.
This probably isn't the place for this, but thought I'd flesh out why Zune isn't ready to be a proprietary app for a leading smartphone. Zune fans may put up with this, the same way itunes fans put up with itunes on Windows. But the masses won't.
Itunes works great on macs. Zune should work great on Windows. Instead, it feels like I'm using a flash app on a website.
i was using zune before i bought my phone, enough said
I don't even need half of the things op has men..tioned
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And I don't need any cable sync.. I am happy with cloud. Period.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106841
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I am using this ****ty app so can't really post long but I will try to answer some of your questions...
I am guessing you are not a Zune pass user... Cosif u use zunepass you will never feel the need to edit id3 tags.
And the concept behind loving or disliking a track is to make ur personalized picks more accurate... The more tracks u like, more accurate picks section become...
UI is visually based and not font based... Gone is ur need to edit fonts... UI is designed so that u browse collection by album ar
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I never said I'm against the rating system. I'm saying its got only 3 levels whereas a normal rating system has 6 (the 5-star rating system).
Also, I edit IDv3 tags for songs I already have because the Zune software is only able to sort auto playlists by idv3 tag data.
This will be the case for other people who are importing their entire library from itunes/winamp/whatever to Zune.
That is the whole purpose of the topic. People moving OVER to zune.
Also, the pass is not an option for everyone depending on where you live. Again, this is not itunse - Zune has no right demanding proprietary status imo. It's not up to the task, especially for users outside of the US
Browse albums by their art covers...
You can arrange songs/albums/artists alphabetical or by date added added... There com the date you were asking for... I don't know if it shows exact date or not.. But if you select arrange by date added.. Than your most recently downloaded album is on top...
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To you above 4 replies, about the 'sorting'.
This is basic sorting that has been around for forever. Sorting by date in album view is not new, nor not at all what I was talking about. Perhaps reread the post so you're more informed with what I was saying. That would be a good way to go about responding to a topic
Does anyone with some experience with other music management apps have anything to say?
I personally find it brilliant, looks really cool as well with a nice easy UI e.g. big chunky text and its really smooth.
I like the way on the now playing screen you have a giant wallpaper of your albums etc.
Half of those things in that big list someone mentioned sound utterly pointless to me, I mean no global hot keys? Who really needs that. I thought thats what a mouse is for.
I also use itunes on my pc as I have an iPad but I hate the interface
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I once had over 70g of nicely organized music UNTIL I got a 20g Zune mp3 player and was forced to use the Zune software...now I've got 120g of mixed up crap.
Zune's a piece of junk, I prefer to use MediaMonkey.
Why you need the 70g of music stored on your PC when you have it all nicely organized on zunepass cloud system for you and you can get it anytime you want and delete it back again...
I don't think Zune desktop is a music collectors device... Its an application to play music, not store and organize your music collection..
I threw away my 60GB of old tiesto collection once I found zunepass... It already has a better better music collection than why I had collected from torrents...
Subscribe to zunepass... And you will see that you are spending more time in listening to music than organizing and collecting it.
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Not sure I don't mind zune but my issue is not being able to sync with Outlook. I hate the cloud and would perfer to keep my contacts and calender info on my computer not out in the air for any hacker to find on microsoft. I use it because I wanted to upgrade to WP7. If there was a way to sync with Outlook(not Outlook Connector) I would.
Purple11 said:
Why you need the 70g of music stored on your PC when you have it all nicely organized on zunepass cloud system for you and you can get it anytime you want and delete it back again...
I don't think Zune desktop is a music collectors device... Its an application to play music, not store and organize your music collection..
I threw away my 60GB of old tiesto collection once I found zunepass... It already has a better better music collection than why I had collected from torrents...
Subscribe to zunepass... And you will see that you are spending more time in listening to music than organizing and collecting it.
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1. zunepass isnt worldwide.
2. if it is proprietary, then it MUST be up to the task of managing your music library, since it will be replacing itunes, wmp, winamp, and so forth.
3. Cloud requires constant data connection. Again, you're missing the point and living in a bubble.
This proprietary software doesn't have any business being proprietary. It's a great piece of software but it is not up to the task of being run worldwide on people's computers with full support and features.
guyver76 said:
Not sure I don't mind zune but my issue is not being able to sync with Outlook. I hate the cloud and would perfer to keep my contacts and calender info on my computer not out in the air for any hacker to find on microsoft. I use it because I wanted to upgrade to WP7. If there was a way to sync with Outlook(not Outlook Connector) I would.
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even so, email by defintion is cloud. when you email someone their contact and email info is whittled away to the cloud. The cloud is just a fancy term for how modern computers work anyways. So if you're worried about hackers on MS servers, you'd best not use the internet to communicate as any sort of data set over the internet can be intercepted.
well... you DONT have to use it.
i got a windows phone and sometimes i use it but usually i use jetaudio, the only reason for using Zune software for Windows Phone its for updating windows phone AND drag and drop music i want in my windows phone. after that i only use it because i want to.
i use it because its nice, it got a nice interface, and of course its not like you have to use everything from it, like, i use mp3tag to fix some music tag i got. but still you could find tag info from internet with Zune.
but only because you have Windows Phone, automatically you cant use some other player. its only for synching and updating not for playing music or fix tags if you don't like it.
If you want your mp3 player to be synched to your computer, with the same playlists and everything, you have to use the same program. WP doesn't allow you to sync with your winamp playlists or itunes playlists or so forth.
Yes, you could just plop files into your WP in an unorganized fashion if you like. Clearly that isn't the point of view of this thread. Come on now
Smart Playlists in Zune kind of suck compared to iTunes
That's a pretty liberal use of the word! This stuff is garbage! I've been reading every post I can find on both the internet and these forums, to no avail. The problem is some of my albums have REALLY poor quality artwork. I mean god awful, looks like it's a thumbnail blown up to fit on a big screen bad. Now I have tried everything I can find to fix this. I've used Album Art Grabbers. I've cleared the data on Google Player. I've even manually moved the MP3s in question onto my computer, used my Meta-Tag Editor to FORCE them to use High-rez artwork by directly encoding it into the files themselves. But no matter what I do, nothing works. When I clear the data for google player(forcing it to re-build my library) at first my new high-rez images are there. But the spinning circle indicating Google isn't done f**king with me is still going. When it stops, my shiny new album artwork has once again been replaced by garbage!
Anyone else severely frustrated by this? I'm seriously pissed. Album art, it's one of the easiest things in the world to manage! hundreds of free players do it just fine. But the all-mighty Google can't get it right? Am I missing something or are we doomed to a life of high rez screen + Album art from 1992?
No one?
I do not have this problem. Try going to the web interface, and changing the album art on the edit album option.
Yeah my Google music purchases look great, however the ones media monkey pulled in look like garbage.
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Mine looked really bad in Google Music when I first opened it, but after the update pulled for the app on day 2 they looked fine.
Mine look awful too! Either they are blown up and are EXTREMELY pixelated or its the wrong album cover! I have my music manager set to upload music from my iTunes and all of my iTunes music has HQ Album Art and are accurate. Anyone know why it does this?
I had a huge problem with artwork, I ended up having to manually enter all of my artwork on iTunes. None of the artwork iTunes pulled for me stuck to the files. It was a tedious process but works great now.
I web searched each album that had poor res art and downloaded at least 400px art and tagged it to the albums with Media Monkey. Real pain at first, but once done all look great.