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no Verizon support. bye bye....

buschris said:
no Verizon support. bye bye....
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Most of the unlocked phones don't work on Verizon anyway. GSM is the way to go. It's been that way for YEARS. Only recently a few phone's been getting support
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ATT and TMobile just don't enjoy a very good coverage map. Nowhere I've traveled anyway, hopefully it will get better though. I'm on Straight Talk ATT and it's abysmal

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Can't decide.. Gsm GN or CDMA GN?

I may be selling my AT&T One X and giving AT&T the ax. I just have a few questions. Which would be the better Nexus to go with? Sprint or the Google Play GN Unlocked on something like straight talk? I really wanna use Jelly Bean so which phone has the better development and better JB experience?
Can you use Straight Talk or a different MVNO on the Unlocked GN? I'm in the US btw. Upstate NY.
SkizzMcNizz said:
I may be selling my AT&T One X and giving AT&T the ax. I just have a few questions. Which would be the better Nexus to go with? Sprint or the Google Play GN Unlocked on something like straight talk? I really wanna use Jelly Bean so which phone has the better development and better JB experience?
Can you use Straight Talk or a different MVNO on the Unlocked GN? I'm in the US btw. Upstate NY.
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I can't speak for the sprint nexus but the Verizon one has pretty much everything the GSM one does. I have heard some things like mms can be finicky on the sprint version on ported roms though although they may have just been jellybean before the source came out. It all depends on what you want regarding carriers. The phones themselves are pretty much identical and porting roms takes only a matter of minutes for the most part.
The GSM gnex works on pretty much any GSM carrier worldwide including straight talk and t mobile.
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From what I have heard, the GSM variant is much more supported with updates and such.
You will be deprived of official OTAs from Google. As Samung and sprint make our updates. I actually plan on ditching sprint... selling my current nexus and getting the next nexus unlocked from Google I hope... and trying T-Mobile. Their starting price for a family plan is 130$ which right now I'm paying 230$ for sprint... and .20mbps of their poop 3G. Hoping to get better signal at least and save some money at the same time. Don't even use 1gb of data over a month so... 2GB isn't bad... and would take occasional throllting than unlimited poop.
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Gsm gets updates as soon as Google releases them. CDMA (Verizon) at least...we're still waiting for the official jelly bean and probably will be for a while
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Matt08642 said:
From what I have heard, the GSM variant is much more supported with updates and such.
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From what it sounds like the op will not be running stock. The verizon version had a fully functional jellybean rom within an hour of the build leaking from Google io. I assume the sprint version had one as well. I would make this decision based on what carrier offers better service. The sprint one does have twice the storage though. Straight talk is a good option if your not a really heavy data user. I don't use that much data per month. Roughly around 500mb.
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Just go GSM and prepaid if you're interested in keeping the prices the lowest. There's nothing wrong with the GSM model.
Look at the prepaid thread for specific questions and answers. You can use the GSM Nexus on any of the GSM carriers (MVNO or otherwise) in the US.
Gsm
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From what it sounds like the op will not be running stock. The verizon version had a fully functional jellybean rom within an hour of the build leaking from Google io. I assume the sprint version had one as well. I would make this decision based on what carrier offers better service. The sprint one does have twice the storage though. Straight talk is a good option if your not a really heavy data user. I don't use that much data per month. Roughly around 500mb.
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I'm mostly on WIFI as it is.
I would go with the Sprint version because it's only $99 now but I'm afraid of their data speeds. Plus I think it would be nice to be without a contract for a change.
SkizzMcNizz said:
I'm mostly on WIFI as it is.
I would go with the Sprint version because it's only $99 now but I'm afraid of their data speeds. Plus I think it would be nice to be without a contract for a change.
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I don't see why you'd ever consider joining Sprint at this point. Their 3G is atrociously slow and the hilarious part is even T-Mobile has a better coverage footprint nowadays.
Get the GSM on from the Play Store and go on the $45 Straight Talk or $30 TMobile plans
harveydent said:
Get the GSM on from the Play Store and go on the $45 Straight Talk or $30 TMobile plans
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Thanks. I think that's what I'm gonna do.
SkizzMcNizz said:
Thanks. I think that's what I'm gonna do.
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Or SimpleMobile if you have a strong T-Mobile signal where you are. I need a strong connection everywhere so I am with Verizon. Plus, Sprint's GNex isn't listed under AOSP but Verizon's is ... sort of.
GSM > Verizon> Sprint
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I can't wait to move to t mobile
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sbrownla said:
Or SimpleMobile if you have a strong T-Mobile signal where you are. I need a strong connection everywhere so I am with Verizon. Plus, Sprint's GNex isn't listed under AOSP but Verizon's is ... sort of.
GSM > Verizon> Sprint
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The GSM is listed under AOSP? I have crappy T-Mobile signal. =(
martonikaj said:
I don't see why you'd ever consider joining Sprint at this point. Their 3G is atrociously slow and the hilarious part is even T-Mobile has a better coverage footprint nowadays.
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I get 1.5-3mpbs on Sprint's 3G. No LTE in Utah yet though :-(
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(haha... yeah right)
Why I can't wait to drop sprint.
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sbrownla said:
Or SimpleMobile if you have a strong T-Mobile signal where you are. I need a strong connection everywhere so I am with Verizon. Plus, Sprint's GNex isn't listed under AOSP but Verizon's is ... sort of.
GSM > Verizon > Sprint
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If you have good T-Mobile coverage I just recommend you go with the Monthly 4G prepaid plans. They're the same prices as Simple Mobile but you get clear wording on where the throttle points are for data (Simple Mobile isn't so clear on that).
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The GSM is listed under AOSP? I have crappy T-Mobile signal. =(
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Of course the GSM model is in AOSP.
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Why I can't wait to drop sprint.
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That's rough man.
Downloaded a 139mb on that today... dropped 14%... took me 30 minutes.
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I have T-Mobile family plan. 3 lines with unlimited messaging, 2gb data for 90 a month. My speed just went from 6mb to 10mb. Is LTE rolling out?
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[Q] T-Mobile usage

Hi, AT&T has horrible coverage in WA so I am stuck on T-Mobile (or Verizon, but I don't fancy a locked bootloader). As far as I can tell, the unlocked Note 2s currently available will operate Edge-only on TMO. Can someone verify this?
Assuming that it won't fully work on TMO, can anyone speculate on when TMO will officially release the GNII? Furthermore, are unlocked prices (in general) expected to drop when this time comes?
Thanks,
Adam.
You are correct. Only Edge 2G for Tmobile.
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05GT said:
You are correct. Only Edge 2G for Tmobile.
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Not necessarily true!
If you are in a market where TMo has refarmed 1900MHz spectrum for 3G, you will get 3G on the Note 2 when you are within 1900MHz coverage.
Regards,
Dave
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foxmeister said:
Not necessarily true!
If you are in a market where TMo has refarmed 1900MHz spectrum for 3G, you will get 3G on the Note 2 when you are within 1900MHz coverage.
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Dave
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This is correct. Here is a map of where it is now.
http://www.airportal.de/#
yumcax said:
Hi, AT&T has horrible coverage in WA so I am stuck on T-Mobile (or Verizon, but I don't fancy a locked bootloader). As far as I can tell, the unlocked Note 2s currently available will operate Edge-only on TMO. Can someone verify this?
Assuming that it won't fully work on TMO, can anyone speculate on when TMO will officially release the GNII? Furthermore, are unlocked prices (in general) expected to drop when this time comes?
Thanks,
Adam.
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There is a Samsung event in NY on the 24th, where it's rumored carriers will announce them for sale.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/sams...ching-in-both-white-and-gray-on-october-24th/
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Yes man it will be only EDGE. (I got international N2 and tmobile)
But I bought the 4G HotSpot so no problem with edge any more lol.

At&t or T-mobile Note 2?

Hello, I have a question. Both note 2 will be pretty much same spec other than data speed lte vs hspa+, so it really comes down to service quality for me. I'm currently with AT&T and service isn't too bad but the price is ridiculously expensive compare to T-Mobile. How is T-Mobile's service compare to AT&T? I really appreciate if I could get some feedbacks from both world users.
I know this isn't a question directly toward Note 2, but since this is the device I'm interested getting and this is note 2 forum I thought I would ask here. My apologies if this is wrong place to ask this.
Thanks for your time!
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zen0s said:
Hello, I have a question. Both note 2 will be pretty much same spec other than data speed lte vs hspa+, so it really comes down to service quality for me. I'm currently with AT&T and service isn't too bad but the price is ridiculously expensive compare to T-Mobile. How is T-Mobile's service compare to AT&T? I really appreciate if I could get some feedbacks from both world users.
I know this isn't a question directly toward Note 2, but since this is the device I'm interested getting and this is note 2 forum I thought I would ask here. My apologies if this is wrong place to ask this.
Thanks for your time!
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it all depends on ur location really....tmobile will let u "test drive" their service for 14 days and if u don't like it, you can simply return the device...i live in a weak tmobile area but bought the tmobile one because the prices were cheaper and you can make phone calls and text through wifi....
Best advice I could give is find someone that uses tmo in your area. If they are satisfied then try out tmobile. If the coverage is poor then I would stick with AT&T.
I wish I knew someone with t-mobile, they all have at&t due to I phone fever
Anyone in Maryland care to share your experience with t-mobile service?
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zen0s said:
I wish I knew someone with t-mobile, they all have at&t due to I phone fever
Anyone in Maryland care to share your experience with t-mobile service?
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http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx and type in your information....this will give you an idea about their coverage...
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http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx and type in your information....this will give you an idea about their coverage...
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Thanks, I did check the coverage through T-Mobile site but I actually wanted some feedback from actual customers. All carriers will say we have good coverage and etc but in real world it could be totally different, just for that reason I was asking XDA community
At&t has LTE. TMOB DOESNT
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You can also try it yourself for not too much $$$.
Get your phone sim unlocked, cellunlocker.net or whatever, probably $8 - $25.
Get a t-mobile sim and start a prepay account on the "Pay By The Day" plan, Unlimited Talk, Text & Web, $3.
This will only be interesting if your area has already gotten the tmo 1900 hspa+ rollout.
That's what I did.
Device works on at&t but no LTE
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davaj said:
You can also try it yourself for not too much $$$.
Get your phone sim unlocked, cellunlocker.net or whatever, probably $8 - $25.
Get a t-mobile sim and start a prepay account on the "Pay By The Day" plan, Unlimited Talk, Text & Web, $3.
This will only be interesting if your area has already gotten the tmo 1900 hspa+ rollout.
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Doesn't seem like 1900 is refarmed around my way, only getting EDGE speed is truly painful. When I'm in city, it works great though, getting speed almost as fast as at&t's lte. I'm guessing if I switch to tmobile device I won't be running into edge speed issue? Maybe I will give that a go.
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zen0s said:
Doesn't seem like 1900 is refarmed around my way, only getting EDGE speed is truly painful. When I'm in city, it works great though, getting speed almost as fast as at&t's lte. I'm guessing if I switch to tmobile device I won't be running into edge speed issue? Maybe I will give that a go.
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you have 14 days to test it out and if you don't like it, you can simply return it....that's one good thing about t-mo
ekerbuddyeker said:
That's what I did.
Device works on at&t but no LTE
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What kind of speed (downloand and upload) are you getting on the AT&T network using the TMO note 2?
Thanks

Unlocking the LTE

I am kinda surprised this has been brought up. SHould we start a fund to reward the first one to break the LTE software lock on the T889?
Please and thanks.
Deliximus said:
I am kinda surprised this has been brought up. SHould we start a fund to reward the first one to break the LTE software lock on the T889?
Please and thanks.
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Why?
There's no use for LTE yet unless you want to unlock it and use it on AT&T
the same reason why people unlocked the A&T i717 to get the AWS available so they can use the device with any provider. That's why. Pretty straight up.
Deliximus said:
the same reason why people unlocked the A&T i717 to get the AWS available so they can use the device with any provider. That's why. Pretty straight up.
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I'm with ya on this on too... ONE phone that works with BOTH carriers 100%...
T-Mobile will handle it...
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agreed
bipoler said:
T-Mobile will handle it...
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i would also gladly donate to those who help us get tmobile note ii to att with all the trimmings possable
haldi15 said:
There's no use for LTE yet unless you want to unlock it and use it on AT&T
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*actually*
T-Mobile has two LTE towers in my area
(South of Atlanta, near the airport.)
So, odds are, they have other LTE towers in other areas.
My credible source also told me that T-Mo's LTE towers are fiber-optic based, as opposed to Verizon and At&T's copper-based LTE towers.
=D

T-Mobile finally getting the G Pro?

I was in their store a few min ago to close my line since my unlocked G Pro could only get edge wit T-Mob. The rep informed me that the G Pro is coming to T-Mobile in the next 2 months!
I had to clarify with him, if he meant the G2. And he verified that BOTH phones are coming soon, and read over the announcement and no actual release date has been given yet.
If this is true I'm gonna jump on this so fast!!
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
I was in their store a few min ago to close my line since my unlocked G Pro could only get edge wit T-Mob. The rep informed me that the G Pro is coming to T-Mobile in the next 2 months!
I had to clarify with him, if he meant the G2. And he verified that BOTH phones are coming soon, and read over the announcement and no actual release date has been given yet.
If this is true I'm gonna jump on this so fast!!
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Well hate to say this but with any carrier NEVER fully believe what a store rep says. Be it be T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon never believe them. If the employees knew im pretty sure it would had already leaked on the internet, and I have a friend who works at a T-Mobile store and they have only heard of possibly the G2 but not the Optimus G Pro..
hyelton said:
Well hate to say this but with any carrier NEVER fully believe what a store rep says. Be it be T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon never believe them. If the employees knew im pretty sure it would had already leaked on the internet, and I have a friend who works at a T-Mobile store and they have only heard of possibly the G2 but not the Optimus G Pro..
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Damn that sucks
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
Damn that sucks
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dont be mad... the at&t version is compatible with tmo, both in data and calls.
xenine said:
dont be mad... the at&t version is compatible with tmo, both in data and calls.
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Unfortunately, in my area the best I can get is Edge. I gotta wait til their towers are "modernized"
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
I was in their store a few min ago to close my line since my unlocked G Pro could only get edge wit T-Mob. The rep informed me that the G Pro is coming to T-Mobile in the next 2 months!
I had to clarify with him, if he meant the G2. And he verified that BOTH phones are coming soon, and read over the announcement and no actual release date has been given yet.
If this is true I'm gonna jump on this so fast!!
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xenine said:
dont be mad... the at&t version is compatible with tmo, both in data and calls.
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Only will get 3G/4G in reframed Areas.
hyelton said:
Well hate to say this but with any carrier NEVER fully believe what a store rep says. Be it be T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon never believe them.
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My wife works for Sprint, and part of her job involves explaining to angry customers that even though the store reps promised them the moon, they're not getting it.
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hyelton said:
Only will get 3G/4G in reframed Areas.
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thats not entirely true. u can get LTE on the OGP as long as tmo provides it in that area.
xenine said:
thats not entirely true. u can get LTE on the OGP as long as tmo provides it in that area.
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Only if their towers allow unlocked phones to use LTE in the area.
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Sorry for the interruption folks. Nothing to see here. Go about your business.
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I actually work for T. And Not in store. You should not believe the store reps. They normally don't know anything, all they know is getting the commission from your pocket & and make a mess in your acc so you call customer care and yell to a rep that has nothing to do.
They don't read the internal info.
Now getting on the subject. No gpro for tmobile. The LG G2, Motorola X, next iphones & note 3. Those are confirm phones from T internally.
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I opened a new line with T-Mobile and used it the past two weeks. I was able to unlock my G Pro with the T-Mobile SIM. I immediately searched and located T-Mobile APN settings to take advantage of their LTE service. The only time I had LTE available to me was towards LA, an hour south from where I live. Yet as soon as I popped in the T-Mobile SIM into my old T-Mobile HTC phone, I got more than Edge signal at my house.
So please, can someone explain to me why, at my house, I could only get T-Mobile Edge signal on my AT&T unlocked OG Pro, but using that same SIM I got better signal on my T-Mobile unlocked HTC?
After contacting T-Mobile myself, I was informed that the towers in my area haven't been "modernized" to allow unlocked devices on their LTE network. Currently, only their T-Mobile designated devices could access LTE here.
I must not be understanding something here. I'm sure I still have that conversation on my phone somewhere...
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InaruMejil said:
I actually work for T. And Not in store. You should not believe the store reps. They normally don't know anything, all they know is getting the commission from your pocket & and make a mess in your acc so you call customer care and yell to a rep that has nothing to do.
They don't read the internal info.
Now getting on the subject. No gpro for tmobile. The LG G2, Motorola X, next iphones & note 3. Those are confirm phones from T internally.
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Man, this brings me down lol
Well at least I won't be waiting around like an idiot for the G Pro!
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
Only if their towers allow unlocked phones to use LTE in the area.
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Lol! , tower has nothing to do with unlocked phone.
Unlocked phone can be used in anywhere
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
I opened a new line with T-Mobile and used it the past two weeks. I was able to unlock my G Pro with the T-Mobile SIM. I immediately searched and located T-Mobile APN settings to take advantage of their LTE service. The only time I had LTE available to me was towards LA, an hour south from where I live. Yet as soon as I popped in the T-Mobile SIM into my old T-Mobile HTC phone, I got more than Edge signal at my house.
So please, can someone explain to me why, at my house, I could only get T-Mobile Edge signal on my AT&T unlocked OG Pro, but using that same SIM I got better signal on my T-Mobile unlocked HTC?
After contacting T-Mobile myself, I was informed that the towers in my area haven't been "modernized" to allow unlocked devices on their LTE network. Currently, only their T-Mobile designated devices could access LTE here.
I must not be understanding something here. I'm sure I still have that conversation on my phone somewhere...
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T-mobile has their hspa+ and lte on the aws band, but your home area is only covered with hspa+. The G Pro does not support hspa+ on the aws band so at home you only get edge. The G Pro does support lte on the aws band so you will get fast speeds as long as you are in an lte area. The HTC phone only supports hspa+ but you have more hspa+ towers in your area than lte towers. Chances are you can take the HTC phone anywhere and get fast speeds.
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T-mobile has their hspa+ and lte on the aws band, but your home area is only covered with hspa+. The G Pro does not support hspa+ on the aws band so at home you only get edge. The G Pro does support lte on the aws band so you will get fast speeds as long as you are in an lte area. The HTC phone only supports hspa+ but you have more hspa+ towers in your area than lte towers. Chances are you can take the HTC phone anywhere and get fast speeds.
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Thanks! I found an app that helps me see coverage by service providers and the type of networks offered and it seems you are correct! T-Mobile has a measly spot off away from me, thus no LTE
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Waaaooo that rep get that answer from his a#$%. Tmobile has been working in what they call re farming. Its basictly that they move all the clients on 2g phones to 3g. So that tmobile could refarm that spectrum for lte..this was done in preparation for apple iphone on april 12 that the iphone arrive to tmobile. That actually cause that several other devices like android that use to work on edge now are able to get 4g or 3g or lte where available and stop the interoperability of none tmobile devices. All that thanks to crappy iphone. In resume either you are in a area that has not yet been re farm or it is and simply your lg does not have the correct apn. It is not the sim as lg g pro use the new sim type that enable lte.
Theres a treath somewhere here that using sqlite editor your able to enable the network mode on the lg. Wich will allow you to change bands. Maybe that will work.
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InaruMejil said:
Waaaooo that rep get that answer from his a#$%. Tmobile has been working in what they call re farming. Its basictly that they move all the clients on 2g phones to 3g. So that tmobile could refarm that spectrum for lte..this was done in preparation for apple iphone on april 12 that the iphone arrive to tmobile. That actually cause that several other devices like android that use to work on edge now are able to get 4g or 3g or lte where available and stop the interoperability of none tmobile devices. All that thanks to crappy iphone. In resume either you are in a area that has not yet been re farm or it is and simply your lg does not have the correct apn. It is not the sim as lg g pro use the new sim type that enable lte.
Theres a treath somewhere here that using sqlite editor your able to enable the network mode on the lg. Wich will allow you to change bands. Maybe that will work.
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Hey thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. I guess the rep's explanation of things really twisted my point of view. Your patience to break it down for me is appreciated.
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Well theres a catch in a phone able to work on a particular carrier. In the case of the lg pro. If the phone is the one from at&t you should not have any problem. As long as your area has been re farm. But i can't say the same lets say on a lte phone coming from china or other country as they might run lte on a different frequency.
At least is what i have seen while working with clients that bought chinesse copy cats.
I took this call of a lady that bough a chinesse copy of a gs4 and she call to complaint that work on edge. When i ask what type of phone she got, she told me well its a gs4. I was like what the #$% you just told me is a copy cat so no lady you don't have a gs4. Anywyas theres was no way to make it work on nothing.more than edge.
So in way you are righ but the other person is righ to in a way.
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