I was in their store a few min ago to close my line since my unlocked G Pro could only get edge wit T-Mob. The rep informed me that the G Pro is coming to T-Mobile in the next 2 months!
I had to clarify with him, if he meant the G2. And he verified that BOTH phones are coming soon, and read over the announcement and no actual release date has been given yet.
If this is true I'm gonna jump on this so fast!!
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I was in their store a few min ago to close my line since my unlocked G Pro could only get edge wit T-Mob. The rep informed me that the G Pro is coming to T-Mobile in the next 2 months!
I had to clarify with him, if he meant the G2. And he verified that BOTH phones are coming soon, and read over the announcement and no actual release date has been given yet.
If this is true I'm gonna jump on this so fast!!
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Well hate to say this but with any carrier NEVER fully believe what a store rep says. Be it be T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon never believe them. If the employees knew im pretty sure it would had already leaked on the internet, and I have a friend who works at a T-Mobile store and they have only heard of possibly the G2 but not the Optimus G Pro..
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Well hate to say this but with any carrier NEVER fully believe what a store rep says. Be it be T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon never believe them. If the employees knew im pretty sure it would had already leaked on the internet, and I have a friend who works at a T-Mobile store and they have only heard of possibly the G2 but not the Optimus G Pro..
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Damn that sucks
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Damn that sucks
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dont be mad... the at&t version is compatible with tmo, both in data and calls.
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dont be mad... the at&t version is compatible with tmo, both in data and calls.
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Unfortunately, in my area the best I can get is Edge. I gotta wait til their towers are "modernized"
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
I was in their store a few min ago to close my line since my unlocked G Pro could only get edge wit T-Mob. The rep informed me that the G Pro is coming to T-Mobile in the next 2 months!
I had to clarify with him, if he meant the G2. And he verified that BOTH phones are coming soon, and read over the announcement and no actual release date has been given yet.
If this is true I'm gonna jump on this so fast!!
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xenine said:
dont be mad... the at&t version is compatible with tmo, both in data and calls.
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Only will get 3G/4G in reframed Areas.
hyelton said:
Well hate to say this but with any carrier NEVER fully believe what a store rep says. Be it be T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon never believe them.
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My wife works for Sprint, and part of her job involves explaining to angry customers that even though the store reps promised them the moon, they're not getting it.
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Only will get 3G/4G in reframed Areas.
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thats not entirely true. u can get LTE on the OGP as long as tmo provides it in that area.
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thats not entirely true. u can get LTE on the OGP as long as tmo provides it in that area.
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Only if their towers allow unlocked phones to use LTE in the area.
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I actually work for T. And Not in store. You should not believe the store reps. They normally don't know anything, all they know is getting the commission from your pocket & and make a mess in your acc so you call customer care and yell to a rep that has nothing to do.
They don't read the internal info.
Now getting on the subject. No gpro for tmobile. The LG G2, Motorola X, next iphones & note 3. Those are confirm phones from T internally.
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I opened a new line with T-Mobile and used it the past two weeks. I was able to unlock my G Pro with the T-Mobile SIM. I immediately searched and located T-Mobile APN settings to take advantage of their LTE service. The only time I had LTE available to me was towards LA, an hour south from where I live. Yet as soon as I popped in the T-Mobile SIM into my old T-Mobile HTC phone, I got more than Edge signal at my house.
So please, can someone explain to me why, at my house, I could only get T-Mobile Edge signal on my AT&T unlocked OG Pro, but using that same SIM I got better signal on my T-Mobile unlocked HTC?
After contacting T-Mobile myself, I was informed that the towers in my area haven't been "modernized" to allow unlocked devices on their LTE network. Currently, only their T-Mobile designated devices could access LTE here.
I must not be understanding something here. I'm sure I still have that conversation on my phone somewhere...
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I actually work for T. And Not in store. You should not believe the store reps. They normally don't know anything, all they know is getting the commission from your pocket & and make a mess in your acc so you call customer care and yell to a rep that has nothing to do.
They don't read the internal info.
Now getting on the subject. No gpro for tmobile. The LG G2, Motorola X, next iphones & note 3. Those are confirm phones from T internally.
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Man, this brings me down lol
Well at least I won't be waiting around like an idiot for the G Pro!
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Only if their towers allow unlocked phones to use LTE in the area.
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Lol! , tower has nothing to do with unlocked phone.
Unlocked phone can be used in anywhere
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I opened a new line with T-Mobile and used it the past two weeks. I was able to unlock my G Pro with the T-Mobile SIM. I immediately searched and located T-Mobile APN settings to take advantage of their LTE service. The only time I had LTE available to me was towards LA, an hour south from where I live. Yet as soon as I popped in the T-Mobile SIM into my old T-Mobile HTC phone, I got more than Edge signal at my house.
So please, can someone explain to me why, at my house, I could only get T-Mobile Edge signal on my AT&T unlocked OG Pro, but using that same SIM I got better signal on my T-Mobile unlocked HTC?
After contacting T-Mobile myself, I was informed that the towers in my area haven't been "modernized" to allow unlocked devices on their LTE network. Currently, only their T-Mobile designated devices could access LTE here.
I must not be understanding something here. I'm sure I still have that conversation on my phone somewhere...
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T-mobile has their hspa+ and lte on the aws band, but your home area is only covered with hspa+. The G Pro does not support hspa+ on the aws band so at home you only get edge. The G Pro does support lte on the aws band so you will get fast speeds as long as you are in an lte area. The HTC phone only supports hspa+ but you have more hspa+ towers in your area than lte towers. Chances are you can take the HTC phone anywhere and get fast speeds.
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T-mobile has their hspa+ and lte on the aws band, but your home area is only covered with hspa+. The G Pro does not support hspa+ on the aws band so at home you only get edge. The G Pro does support lte on the aws band so you will get fast speeds as long as you are in an lte area. The HTC phone only supports hspa+ but you have more hspa+ towers in your area than lte towers. Chances are you can take the HTC phone anywhere and get fast speeds.
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Thanks! I found an app that helps me see coverage by service providers and the type of networks offered and it seems you are correct! T-Mobile has a measly spot off away from me, thus no LTE
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Waaaooo that rep get that answer from his a#$%. Tmobile has been working in what they call re farming. Its basictly that they move all the clients on 2g phones to 3g. So that tmobile could refarm that spectrum for lte..this was done in preparation for apple iphone on april 12 that the iphone arrive to tmobile. That actually cause that several other devices like android that use to work on edge now are able to get 4g or 3g or lte where available and stop the interoperability of none tmobile devices. All that thanks to crappy iphone. In resume either you are in a area that has not yet been re farm or it is and simply your lg does not have the correct apn. It is not the sim as lg g pro use the new sim type that enable lte.
Theres a treath somewhere here that using sqlite editor your able to enable the network mode on the lg. Wich will allow you to change bands. Maybe that will work.
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InaruMejil said:
Waaaooo that rep get that answer from his a#$%. Tmobile has been working in what they call re farming. Its basictly that they move all the clients on 2g phones to 3g. So that tmobile could refarm that spectrum for lte..this was done in preparation for apple iphone on april 12 that the iphone arrive to tmobile. That actually cause that several other devices like android that use to work on edge now are able to get 4g or 3g or lte where available and stop the interoperability of none tmobile devices. All that thanks to crappy iphone. In resume either you are in a area that has not yet been re farm or it is and simply your lg does not have the correct apn. It is not the sim as lg g pro use the new sim type that enable lte.
Theres a treath somewhere here that using sqlite editor your able to enable the network mode on the lg. Wich will allow you to change bands. Maybe that will work.
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Hey thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. I guess the rep's explanation of things really twisted my point of view. Your patience to break it down for me is appreciated.
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Well theres a catch in a phone able to work on a particular carrier. In the case of the lg pro. If the phone is the one from at&t you should not have any problem. As long as your area has been re farm. But i can't say the same lets say on a lte phone coming from china or other country as they might run lte on a different frequency.
At least is what i have seen while working with clients that bought chinesse copy cats.
I took this call of a lady that bough a chinesse copy of a gs4 and she call to complaint that work on edge. When i ask what type of phone she got, she told me well its a gs4. I was like what the #$% you just told me is a copy cat so no lady you don't have a gs4. Anywyas theres was no way to make it work on nothing.more than edge.
So in way you are righ but the other person is righ to in a way.
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Guys,
I so want to buy the note 2 like today. However T-Mobile has no coverage in my area. If I buy the phone at full price I can get it unlocked. Am just wondering if T-Mobile note will work on at&t lte Or hspa+.
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Guys,
I so want to buy the note 2 like today. However T-Mobile has no coverage in my area. If I buy the phone at full price I can get it unlocked. Am just wondering if T-Mobile note will work on at&t lte Or hspa+.
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The phone does support HSPA+ on AT&T out the box since the bands are included. The phone also has T-Mobile LTE frequency as well, but is said to be locked down by software since T-Mobile does not have LTE up and running yet. I believe T-Mobile and AT&T do use the same frequency for LTE. Only way to know if someone unlocks their device and puts in an AT&T sim.
According to AnandTech review it WILL support ATT LTE. So how does a non-Tmobile user unlock this phone??? I want to use on ATT.
From the review...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6386/samsung-galaxy-note-2-review-t-mobile-/9
One of the most interesting things about the Galaxy Note 2 on T-Mobile is that it literally is the same hardware as the AT&T Note 2 with LTE. Sure, the model number is different, but the T-Mobile Note 2 includes support for LTE bands 17 (which AT&T uses) and 4 (AWS, which AT&T has specced devices out for and T-Mobile has confirmed it will deploy LTE on). This is to my knowledge the first T-Mobile handset with overt LTE support, and thus a solid future-proof purchase if you’re determined to have a T-Mobile handset that will work with the carrier’s upcoming LTE on AWS plans.
In addition, if you unlock the handset there’s no reason it shouldn’t work on AT&T’s LTE network that I can see. I managed to unlock the T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2 but not before leaving the AT&T LTE market in Dallas. It does however work as expected on WCDMA 1900 in my own market on AT&T after unlocking.
Will the Note 2 work on streight talk as well?
I'm curious if the note II would work on att's 3g network. I'm with Sprint atm but I'm constantly roaming due to poor coverage so I'm assuming it won't be long till they nix my contract and paying $100+ for limited data is just ridiculous to me so I was going to go with TMobile but they only have.edge coverage around here no 3g so I was hoping if I went with TMobile I could use AT&T towers and actually have a decently priced plan with real service.
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Guys,
I so want to buy the note 2 like today. However T-Mobile has no coverage in my area. If I buy the phone at full price I can get it unlocked. Am just wondering if T-Mobile note will work on at&t lte Or hspa+.
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Im in the same boat im going thru the same thing I have both simplemobile/tmo and Att for work and i played with the international version and ofourse it was fine with my Att sim i didnt try my simplemoble/tmo sim at the time but im hearing the tmo version is exactly like the att and international one so imma just use my work phone/att to save some money(I use google voice so it doesnt matter what phone i use same number) and plus im suppose to get a discounted price so lets say i can possible be very happy this weekend!! but imma take the chance all the info i read states it will work with Att hspa+network so well see soon! if nobody tries it before me...
I took the plunge...
I bought the TMOB version
Cellunlocker.net unlocked it (I selected the international note 2 option)
Pooped in my at&t sim
No LTE!!!
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ekerbuddyeker said:
I took the plunge...
I bought the TMOB version
Cellunlocker.net unlocked it (I selected the international note 2 option)
Pooped in my at&t sim
No LTE!!!
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Lol @ "Pooped in my at&t sim"!
ekerbuddyeker said:
I took the plunge...
I bought the TMOB version
Cellunlocker.net unlocked it (I selected the international note 2 option)
Pooped in my at&t sim
No LTE!!!
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did u get hspa+ atleast? im thinking of getting note 2 from tmobile and using at&t
It says 4G
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It says 4G
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thats good. hspa+ is all i need
how much was it to get it unlock
$25
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$25
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thanks.
LTE band might just be software locked since T-Mo has yet to get LTE, FCC filings showed LTE capability. YMMV
So how does one unloxk that?
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Hacked radio. Prob be a while for that though. Need att radio drivers most likely.
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additional evidence that it's LTE enabled (technically)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6386/samsung-galaxy-note-2-review-t-mobile-/9
not sure how to "unlock" the LTE functionality
Well I am enjoying the device. Im Missing LTE in NYC where 4G is not great!
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Well I am enjoying the device. Im Missing LTE in NYC where 4G is not great!
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Make sure your using the right APN....... if your not using the right APN you won't get lte
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Most likely your going to need the At&t radio just how At&t note 1 worked on t-mobile 4g by flashing the radio... maybe even a full on rom from at&t version since all the phones now come with the same hardware
Hello, I have a question. Both note 2 will be pretty much same spec other than data speed lte vs hspa+, so it really comes down to service quality for me. I'm currently with AT&T and service isn't too bad but the price is ridiculously expensive compare to T-Mobile. How is T-Mobile's service compare to AT&T? I really appreciate if I could get some feedbacks from both world users.
I know this isn't a question directly toward Note 2, but since this is the device I'm interested getting and this is note 2 forum I thought I would ask here. My apologies if this is wrong place to ask this.
Thanks for your time!
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Hello, I have a question. Both note 2 will be pretty much same spec other than data speed lte vs hspa+, so it really comes down to service quality for me. I'm currently with AT&T and service isn't too bad but the price is ridiculously expensive compare to T-Mobile. How is T-Mobile's service compare to AT&T? I really appreciate if I could get some feedbacks from both world users.
I know this isn't a question directly toward Note 2, but since this is the device I'm interested getting and this is note 2 forum I thought I would ask here. My apologies if this is wrong place to ask this.
Thanks for your time!
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it all depends on ur location really....tmobile will let u "test drive" their service for 14 days and if u don't like it, you can simply return the device...i live in a weak tmobile area but bought the tmobile one because the prices were cheaper and you can make phone calls and text through wifi....
Best advice I could give is find someone that uses tmo in your area. If they are satisfied then try out tmobile. If the coverage is poor then I would stick with AT&T.
I wish I knew someone with t-mobile, they all have at&t due to I phone fever
Anyone in Maryland care to share your experience with t-mobile service?
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I wish I knew someone with t-mobile, they all have at&t due to I phone fever
Anyone in Maryland care to share your experience with t-mobile service?
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http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx and type in your information....this will give you an idea about their coverage...
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http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx and type in your information....this will give you an idea about their coverage...
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Thanks, I did check the coverage through T-Mobile site but I actually wanted some feedback from actual customers. All carriers will say we have good coverage and etc but in real world it could be totally different, just for that reason I was asking XDA community
At&t has LTE. TMOB DOESNT
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You can also try it yourself for not too much $$$.
Get your phone sim unlocked, cellunlocker.net or whatever, probably $8 - $25.
Get a t-mobile sim and start a prepay account on the "Pay By The Day" plan, Unlimited Talk, Text & Web, $3.
This will only be interesting if your area has already gotten the tmo 1900 hspa+ rollout.
That's what I did.
Device works on at&t but no LTE
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davaj said:
You can also try it yourself for not too much $$$.
Get your phone sim unlocked, cellunlocker.net or whatever, probably $8 - $25.
Get a t-mobile sim and start a prepay account on the "Pay By The Day" plan, Unlimited Talk, Text & Web, $3.
This will only be interesting if your area has already gotten the tmo 1900 hspa+ rollout.
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Doesn't seem like 1900 is refarmed around my way, only getting EDGE speed is truly painful. When I'm in city, it works great though, getting speed almost as fast as at&t's lte. I'm guessing if I switch to tmobile device I won't be running into edge speed issue? Maybe I will give that a go.
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Doesn't seem like 1900 is refarmed around my way, only getting EDGE speed is truly painful. When I'm in city, it works great though, getting speed almost as fast as at&t's lte. I'm guessing if I switch to tmobile device I won't be running into edge speed issue? Maybe I will give that a go.
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you have 14 days to test it out and if you don't like it, you can simply return it....that's one good thing about t-mo
ekerbuddyeker said:
That's what I did.
Device works on at&t but no LTE
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What kind of speed (downloand and upload) are you getting on the AT&T network using the TMO note 2?
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Can this phone if unlocked support At&t's 3G network?
Yes, it can. Buy it outright and you can unlock it for free right away. But you will only get GPRS, if I am right.
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Yes, it can. Buy it outright and you can unlock it for free right away. But you will only get GPRS, if I am right.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Ya I'm afraid of it only being able to get 2g. Has anyone else tried this or is the phone too new?
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Thanks for the quick reply. Ya I'm afraid of it only being able to get 2g. Has anyone else tried this or is the phone too new?
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I have an unlocked T889 running 4G (HSPA+) on AT&T. So long as you have a data plan it'll work. LTE radio is software locked for now, but really HSPA+ is fast enough for most uses and probably doesn't drain the battery as fast.
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I have an unlocked T889 running 4G (HSPA+) on AT&T. So long as you have a data plan it'll work. LTE radio is software locked for now, but really HSPA+ is fast enough for most uses and probably doesn't drain the battery as fast.
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Can you provide screenshots... of t-mobile note 2 actually getting HSPA+ on AT&T?
This has been very well documented as working. Please take the time to search.
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This has been very well documented as working. Please take the time to search.
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Well documented my ass... Seen a bunch of post were you only get edge on AT&T, as well as we get edge on T-Mobile when we insert a tmobile sim...
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Well documented my ass... Seen a bunch of post were you only get edge on AT&T, as well as we get edge on T-Mobile when we insert a tmobile sim...
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I feel your pain. Sometimes reading thru all these threads, we have people who profess to claim certain things, and it goes against the grain of what is actually truth.
Especially with something like this phone where there is so much interest - I'm still trying to find the right information so that I can decide between purchasing the T-mobile or AT&T versions of the phone.
yes, it works
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I feel your pain. Sometimes reading thru all these threads, we have people who profess to claim certain things, and it goes against the grain of what is actually truth.
Especially with something like this phone where there is so much interest - I'm still trying to find the right information so that I can decide between purchasing the T-mobile or AT&T versions of the phone.
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I have the TMobile SGH-T889...paid $25 to that cellunlocker cite, used their code with my AT&T HTC One X SIM in the Note II. It registered on AT&T, so I ran some speedtests with the Ookla app. I got test speeds in the 3-4Mb/s range, which in my area is as good as AT&T's HSPA+ network gets. The same SIM pulls the same speeds on my AT&T One X.
Conclusion, it works on AT&T 3G/fake-4G network no problems.
That said, the exact same phone, in the exact same location, with its TMobile SIM in it, gets 10-12Mb/s on the speedtest app. Not sure why I'd want to run the AT&T sim in this phone with that kind of speed difference.
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I have the TMobile SGH-T889...paid $25 to that cellunlocker cite, used their code with my AT&T HTC One X SIM in the Note II. It registered on AT&T, so I ran some speedtests with the Ookla app. I got test speeds in the 3-4Mb/s range, which in my area is as good as AT&T's HSPA+ network gets. The same SIM pulls the same speeds on my AT&T One X.
Conclusion, it works on AT&T 3G/fake-4G network no problems.
That said, the exact same phone, in the exact same location, with its TMobile SIM in it, gets 10-12Mb/s on the speedtest app. Not sure why I'd want to run the AT&T sim in this phone with that kind of speed difference.
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Concluded... Finally a big, huge period on this department...
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I've been seeing news rumors saying Tmobile maybe the first to run 5G...what do you guys think? I haven't seen any LTE yet even...this maybe just BS. On the other hand, Tmo just worked on LTE...so maybe it still easy for them to reprogram to 5G...? Anyone got the inside scoop?
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/t-mobile-first-5g-lte-advanced/
I wouldn't say this is BS, but calling LTE-A 5G is BS. Really I think T-mobile wants to have the fastest 4G network and they may call it "5G" if they got 300mbs+ out of it, but I really think they should start rolling out 4G LTE across there 2G foot print.
They're all marketing terms, and their meanings change. Most of the current "4G" infrastructure is more like 3.5G since it falls so far short of the original design specifications.
LTE-Advanced is probably going to be billed as 5G, but it's more like what 4G was originally supposed to mean. Cheap and greedy telcos sold us short and marketed the intermediate steps as the final product.
2G, 3G, 4G used to purely mean something, but now the "label" has shifted to more around the raw speed regardless of the infrastructure. A great example is TM with their HSPA+ calling it 4G, which (like one mentioned) is more like 3.5G.
However, TM's HSPA+ (3.5ish G) in some areas can whoop on other carriers LTE. Look at my sig; great example.
Although TM was last in the race for the LTE infrastructure, TM has the most expandable infrastructure over all the other carriers. Very smart move. Why? Because if the other carriers wanted to expand they would have to put in place a completely new infrastructure for their next generation network, whereas TM can just expand on their current (New LTE) infrastructure. Now the tides have shifted.
So 5G for TM? When the time comes, yes TM would be the first to have it since they have the ability to build on their current platform without the hassle of putting in a new one.
kobesabi said:
I've been seeing news rumors saying Tmobile maybe the first to run 5G...what do you guys think? I haven't seen any LTE yet even...this maybe just BS. On the other hand, Tmo just worked on LTE...so maybe it still easy for them to reprogram to 5G...? Anyone got the inside scoop?
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/t-mobile-first-5g-lte-advanced/
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I find it amusing that cellular providers in the US are making more progress on data speeds than our ISPs.
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I find it amusing that cellular providers in the US are making more progress on data speeds than our ISPs.
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Verizon Fios is not available in my area. Uverse also not available unless I pay 100+ option. Only option I have is Uverse DSL...which is crappy and about 80% reliability. Cable is pricey and fail miserably on jitter test. My new friend is $10 (unlimited talk from Tmobile to replace my home phone. Tmobile $20 unlimited data to replace my home DSL. I hope Google Fiber becomes available in OC area soon someday.
luckyduck69 said:
I find it amusing that cellular providers in the US are making more progress on data speeds than our ISPs.
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finally ! :laugh:
luckyduck69 said:
I find it amusing that cellular providers in the US are making more progress on data speeds than our ISPs.
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I think it's a lot more time and money that's needed to run new cable/fiber to each and every home than replacing a cell tower or two every block..
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Google fiber is a game changer for the USA. Other countries have much better speeds at much cheaper prices. Google is forcing other carriers to step up. Time Warner is already ****ing there pants in places where Google fiber already rolled out.
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Lol. Really guys? 5G refers to the Wi-Fi technology used. 802.11ac.
Here's an article about it:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/samsungs-galaxy-s4-signals-shift-to-faster-wi-fi-2013-03-15
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LTE is faster than my home cable Internet...
Honestly, I don't think our phones need the kind of bandwidth LTE 4G offers. Not with bandwidth caps anyway...
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Honestly yeah ... we don't need lte .... we already getting more 10mbps thats fast enough for me if I want really fast internet I would just connect to my wifi ... thats just me ...
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I'm still waiting for LTE in California. I get dial up speeds unless I head for a larger city. They shouldn't even mention new technology until completely rolling out LTE to more cities.
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thachosenone said:
Lol. Really guys? 5G refers to the Wi-Fi technology used. 802.11ac.
Here's an article about it:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/samsungs-galaxy-s4-signals-shift-to-faster-wi-fi-2013-03-15
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Lol. 5G. Now there are gonna be people out there bragging about their 5g phone. People are idiots.
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thachosenone said:
Lol. 5G. Now there are gonna be people out there bragging about their 5g phone. People are idiots.
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We're not talking about WiFi. Samsung has started mobile tests that are 100 times faster than LTE. T-Mobile is rumored to be the 1st carrier in the world to utilize it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nigamar...kthrough-points-to-long-term-risks-for-apple/
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Lol. Really guys? 5G refers to the Wi-Fi technology used. 802.11ac.
Here's an article about it:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/samsungs-galaxy-s4-signals-shift-to-faster-wi-fi-2013-03-15
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Really guy...
That's a different 5G. This thread is about mobile data not wifi.
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Yeah he talking about mobile data 5G Google it.
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SKT and KT are going LTE-A later this year, collab with Samsung of course.. (South Korea) I do not see any reason for TMO not to invest on the forthcoming future.
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luckyduck69 said:
I find it amusing that cellular providers in the US are making more progress on data speeds than our ISPs.
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Yeah really, I still facepalm at Cincinnati Bell putting up advertizements on the billboards about FiOptics when some of those places don't even get it! OTOH I'm surprised cell companies don't offer unlimited (fast) internet on their internet sticks.. if that happened I'd dump my ADSL and go with a stick.
However, I still find it amusing that cell companies still push tiered data plans (thankfully Tmo no longer does this...)
adventure_of_link said:
Yeah really, I still facepalm at Cincinnati Bell putting up advertizements on the billboards about FiOptics when some of those places don't even get it! OTOH I'm surprised cell companies don't offer unlimited (fast) internet on their internet sticks.. if that happened I'd dump my ADSL and go with a stick.
However, I still find it amusing that cell companies still push tiered data plans (thankfully Tmo no longer does this...)
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I'm glad they do. People are going to be using cell phones to provide themselves with home internet. The isps need to get with the program here. T-Mobile actually has a "grace period" of tethering for this sole reason. Fibre and xFinity are prolly the only ones faster than some cell companies. It's pitiful.
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Can I use another 4G LTE provider on the Galaxy Note II from Sprint?
I have Boost Mobile and I had a Galaxy S2 with Clear.com 4G WiMax. I now can only get 3G, and as you ALL know the 3G speed has lowered quite a bit. (200~400k vs 700~900k 3 years ago)
Another alternative I guess would be to get a Hotspot, but who wants to carry around a phone AND a hotspot when you can have them both on the phone?
I believe you can use this device on any network that is actually using Sprint towers, like MetroPCS (?) or Boost?
There are threads somewhere for instructions on flashing this.
(i'm also talking out my ass, because I have only noticed these threads in passing, never actually researched this. But I bet if you Searched a bit, you'd find the info.)
Um LOL. Like the thread right under this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060085
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kingdazy said:
I believe you can use this device on any network that is actually using Sprint towers, like MetroPCS (?) or Boost?
There are threads somewhere for instructions on flashing this.
(i'm also talking out my ass, because I have only noticed these threads in passing, never actually researched this. But I bet if you Searched a bit, you'd find the info.)
Um LOL. Like the thread right under this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060085
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Thanks for the info but that's not what I meant. I mean the 4G service, not the voice, talk, text and 3G. I have that already. (that's what the thread under this one does, help you program the Note 2 on Boost, I already did that part. I meant the 4G LTE, i.e. connecting it on Verizon's LTE or T-Mobile's (MetroPCS is now part of T-Mobile I believe?) Heck, even a Sprint LTE account if they allowed it by itself with no talk/text service would be nice.
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Thanks for the info but that's not what I meant. I mean the 4G service, not the voice, talk, text and 3G. I have that already. (that's what the thread under this one does, help you program the Note 2 on Boost, I already did that part. I meant the 4G LTE, i.e. connecting it on Verizon's LTE or T-Mobile's (MetroPCS is now part of T-Mobile I believe?) Heck, even a Sprint LTE account if they allowed it by itself with no talk/text service would be nice.
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Impossible to do first off you need to understand how technology and radios work Tmobile is GSM. Sprint and verizon are CDMA and you can only "roam" on 3g verizon with a prl that can get you kicked off, if you abuse it.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Impossible to do first off you need to understand how technology and radios work Tmobile is GSM. Sprint and verizon are CDMA and you can only "roam" on 3g verizon with a prl that can get you kicked off, if you abuse it.
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Ok, so maybe I do need to do some research. LTE is *not* like WiMax? It doesn't have separate "device" from the actual voice/text/3G radio?
LTE uses the same radio as the cellphone and 3G?
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Ok, so maybe I do need to do some research. LTE is *not* like WiMax? It doesn't have separate "device" from the actual voice/text/3G radio?
LTE uses the same radio as the cellphone and 3G?
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WiMaXX was like a WiFi connection sorta. But yeah the radios arent all compatible. Just google some of it and search around here. I cant pin point thw links oe topics but there are here and there.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
WiMaXX was like a WiFi connection sorta. But yeah the radios arent all compatible. Just google some of it and search around here. I cant pin point thw links oe topics but there are here and there.
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Nice, thanks for the info!
You can't use Verizons LTE because the frequency is different. The sprint note 2 doesn't have versions LTE frequency to pick it up.
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musclehead84 said:
You can't use Verizons LTE because the frequency is different. The sprint note 2 doesn't have versions LTE frequency to pick it up.
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Ok thanks for the info. Any other carrier with the same frequencies as Sprint? (What frequencies does MetroPCS use?)
m4f1050 said:
Ok, so maybe I do need to do some research. LTE is *not* like WiMax? It doesn't have separate "device" from the actual voice/text/3G radio?
LTE uses the same radio as the cellphone and 3G?
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Ok, my fault. I assumed you knew these things.
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Ok thanks for the info. Any other carrier with the same frequencies as Sprint? (What frequencies does MetroPCS use?)
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right there, see. Metro actually uses Sprint towers (ie, Sprint services) ... So... Same frequency.
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Ok, my fault. I assumed you knew these things.
right there, see. Metro actually uses Sprint towers (ie, Sprint services) ... So... Same frequency.
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Thanks for the info.
Thats why this galaxy note 2 is my LAST Cdma phone. For SURE getting GsM next theres plenty of carriers with 4G for it. Cdma sucks because I cant get no 4G. Before this phone had the oneX and yea 4G I miss.
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chuko303 said:
Thats why this galaxy note 2 is my LAST Cdma phone. For SURE getting GsM next theres plenty of carriers with 4G for it. Cdma sucks because I cant get no 4G. Before this phone had the oneX and yea 4G I miss.
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are you high? all game providers in the us suck. only tower owners are att and T-Mobile and T-Mobile doesn't have any real 4g neither Winmax nor lte and att has as much lte as sprint (and sprint is going to overtake att with network vision )
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reinaldistic said:
are you high? all game providers in the us suck. only tower owners are att and T-Mobile and T-Mobile doesn't have any real 4g neither Winmax nor lte and att has as much lte as sprint (and sprint is going to overtake att with network vision )
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Are u a retard? Hmm my guess im right on spot with that one. Sprint can suck it. GSM is better and if you don't agree? Take a ticket and take a seat next to the idiots that are waiting for me to give a Fuk.
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Someones a crabby pants.
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chuko303 said:
Are u a retard? Hmm my guess im right on spot with that one. Sprint can suck it. GSM is better and if you don't agree? Take a ticket and take a seat next to the idiots that are waiting for me to give a Fuk.
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I give facts and argument you insult sprint... well of course you are right. who has ever heard of the "can suck it" argument ever loosing. that's how we explained to Hitler and the Japanese emperor that he had to surrender in WW2 "Mr Hitler can suck it" -pres trueman, "since I can suck it I have ordered my forces to surrender and suggested to the Japanese to do the same"-hitler (translated to English)
if you can't give facts to support your claim you can go head and get an iPhone on a gsm network since you are using the same arguments apple uses to ensnare its sheep -i mean- customers
either that or you are an at&t rep or fanboy trying to weakarm customers away from sprint. why you aren't targeting your biggest competitor Verizon is beyond me but take that stuff to T-Mobile customers they'll eat that up like they eat their "unlimited" throttled data
one bad experience in one city with one small period of data speed downturn does not a bad carrier make
oh and mods don't blame chuko (or me) for starting arguments. arguments are healthy and help shape perception
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In all fairness, Sprint in Denver does suck... 3g speeds right now. 200 kbps and no lte. There are a few lte towers popping up. but not in the metro area. Person in the cube next to me has AT&T and hspa+ is 15mbps and lte 40mbps. Faster than the cable provider here!
zemaj800 said:
In all fairness, Sprint in Denver does suck... 3g speeds right now. 200 kbps and no lte. There are a few lte towers popping up. but not in the metro area. Person in the cube next to me has AT&T and hspa+ is 15mbps and lte 40mbps. Faster than the cable provider here!
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Thaat my friend is what I mean. Sorry for not being more specific. Colorado
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reinaldistic said:
are you high? all game providers in the us suck. only tower owners are att and T-Mobile and T-Mobile doesn't have any real 4g neither Winmax nor lte and att has as much lte as sprint (and sprint is going to overtake att with network vision )
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Tmobile has 4G LTE in almost all of New York with some decent coverage in Washington, Baltimore and Philadelphia and they're just starting.. So they actually do have real 4G lol
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RayTrue04 said:
Tmobile has 4G LTE in almost all of New York with some decent coverage in Washington, Baltimore and Philadelphia and they're just starting.. So they actually do have real 4G lol
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is it actually LTE? Or 3.5G like they have now where its up 42MBs
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