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Google becoming a Wireless Carrier by 2013.

I just thought I'd post this - I know it's off topic, but this is definitely worth a thread.
http://bgr.com/2012/11/16/google-wireless-carrier-launch-2013/
Once I find it, I'll update this thread with the spectrum that Dish owns.
EDIT: Dish Network owns AWS-4 Spectrum running at 2000Mhz and 2200Mhz.

Overstew said:
I just thought I'd post this - I know it's off topic, but this is definitely worth a thread.
http://bgr.com/2012/11/16/google-wireless-carrier-launch-2013/
Once I find it, I'll update this thread with the spectrum that Dish owns.
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bery nice how much?

Bummer...I guess this means they won't be buying Sprint after all. Although I guess the whole SoftBank thing kind of put that to bed, didn't it? I so badly wanted that to happen!

hayzooos said:
Bummer...I guess this means they won't be buying Sprint after all. Although I guess the whole SoftBank thing kind of put that to bed, didn't it? I so badly wanted that to happen!
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I honestly think Sprint will be involved. They're building out their network but there's no way they can get a nation covered by 2013. They will likely partner with Sprint with their lte network for its coverage until they get a hold of things. Reason being, they want to compete against Verizon and At&t, and T-Mobile has the speeds they need, but not exactly the coverage. When sprint finishes their network vision, it'll be on par with Verizon in terms of speeds and coverage.
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im predicting $30-50/month for unlimited everything with no throttling.

Ascertion said:
I honestly think Sprint will be involved. They're building out their network but there's no way they can get a nation covered by 2013. They will likely partner with Sprint with their lte network for its coverage until they get a hold of things. Reason being, they want to compete against Verizon and At&t, and T-Mobile has the speeds they need, but not exactly the coverage. When sprint finishes their network vision, it'll be on par with Verizon in terms of speeds and coverage.
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Agree with you on that one. I actually think it might be better as Sprint is upgrading every tower in their network with a few exceptions. I'm also excited Sprint just bought some people and spectrum from US Cellular in the Chicago market. In two years, Sprint will have THE best network in Chicago, and I'm happy about that.

cnstarz said:
im predicting $30-50/month for unlimited everything with no throttling.
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Lol very funny.
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cnstarz said:
im predicting $30-50/month for unlimited everything with no throttling.
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They will probably be very tempting when it comes to their entry level pricing. Google likes to recruit a lot of customers by promotions that they lose money on, then make the money from elsewhere. (Ie: Google Play Market. If they sell only Android phones, more android apps will be bought from the market.)
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im predicting $30-50/month for unlimited everything with no throttling.
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The article says the Google network will be data-only, no call minutes or SMS/MMS. That stuff would be handled as VoIP, most likely through Google Voice.
So, I'm guessing it would be $20-40/month for unlimited data. Any sort of cap obviously wouldn't work for a data-only network.

EndlessDissent said:
The article says the Google network will be data-only, no call minutes or SMS/MMS. That stuff would be handled as VoIP, most likely through Google Voice.
So, I'm guessing it would be $20-40/month for unlimited data. Any sort of cap obviously wouldn't work for a data-only network.
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That would be the bees knees and a logical evolution I hop right on that band wagon
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That means if they go on the Sprint network on solely data it could bog down them down. I'm really curious what their infrastructure plans are.
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pyrosin said:
That means if they go on the Sprint network on solely data it could bog down them down. I'm really curious what their infrastructure plans are.
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Dish Network owns AWS-4 spectrum at 2000Mhz/2200Mhz spectrum. This frequency covers slightly less customers with slightly less building penetration. The best way to think of it is between Sprint's 3G and Wimax coverage.
If they decide to go with Sprint in the meantime, they'll probably be forced to have a cap on data until they get their own network on the ground. Google will definitely have a strong presence in the U.S. cellular market.

dish is horrible at making deals, look at what is going on with amc, they are having problems trying to get em back in there line up. I could see this deal collapsing if google mentions money.
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Bc of AMC they are horrible w deals? Lol this stuff happens w all service providers
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bootny said:
Bc of AMC they are horrible w deals? Lol this stuff happens w all service providers
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Yea it does happen all the time, but amc is one of 5 or 6 channels that was dropped. Just bc they didnt want to give em more money, its been over a year and they still have yet to come to a resolution. Lets look at direct tv, when they had that 17 channel problem, they got that done within a week. So yes i do think they are bad at making deals or getting deals, resolved.
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magics. said:
Yea it does happen all the time, but amc is one of 5 or 6 channels that was dropped. Just bc they didnt want to give em more money, its been over a year and they still have yet to come to a resolution. Lets look at direct tv, when they had that 17 channel problem, they got that done within a week. So yes i do think they are bad at making deals or getting deals, resolved.
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I know this discussion has taken a strange turn, but AMC is back on Dish

DizzyMP said:
I know this discussion has taken a strange turn, but AMC is back on Dish
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I was about to say the same and judging a company on channel deals is a bit ridiculous. It has nothing to do with wireless phone technology.
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If google goes through with this I seriously doubt they'd use any CDMA carrier for any kind of backbone.
Every nexus device they've released has always been on GSM networks first and I don't even think the Nexus 4 will hit Sprint or Verizon.
Google loves the sim cards.

Axis' said:
If google goes through with this I seriously doubt they'd use any CDMA carrier for any kind of backbone.
Every nexus device they've released has always been on GSM networks first and I don't even think the Nexus 4 will hit Sprint or Verizon.
Google loves the sim cards.
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Google's looking at data only network, which means it'll need fast speeds to support voice over IP. LTE is a gsm based technology and Sprint is Google's best carrier friend (Google Voice, Google Play bill to account features, etc.)
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Wow

I bought a gn2 unlocked off craigslist for $450.00 cash.
Purchased a solavei wireless sim card.
60 bucks a month no throttle after any amount of data used.
Great coverage averaged 14 mbps down. Hmm with speeds like these hard to see how sprint stays with these guys.
For the first time in years I have been thinking of bouncing. From sprint to another Carrier . The blazing data speeds have me mezmerized. Solavei rides on tmobiles network. But at that price it may be worth a switch.
Bought the 2nd gn2 for a work phone. Gonna wait and see if sprint builds out the lte network in my area. But it's sad when I go back to my sprint gn2 and speeds won't pay 512 kbps on average.
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Great more sprint 3g speed sucks thread. I often wonder how are these thread phone related.
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shook187 said:
Great more sprint 3g speed sucks thread. I often wonder how are these thread phone related.
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I did the post just for you.
Honestly your best rebuttal would have been not to post.
Wasnt about how crappy sprints 3g is. But more about how fast tmobiles network is.
Been a sprint customer 15 years nothing new to me.
Hopefully the softbank acquisition helps Fix that.
And the post is phone related its a phone forum.
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probably stolen

Checked it with tmobile first
To make sure it was clean.
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HSUPA+ compared to EVDO lol. If HDUPA+ on tmobile was always 14-15mbs download then they would have no need to roll out LTE. Thing is HSUPA+ cant maintain that speed.
Uh... nvm I am not going to explain... congrats on your unlimited highspeed data through tmobile.
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xKrisx said:
HSUPA+ compared to EVDO lol. If HDUPA+ on tmobile was always 14-15mbs download then they would have no need to roll out LTE. Thing is HSUPA+ cant maintain that speed.
Uh... nvm I am not going to explain... congrats on your unlimited highspeed data through tmobile.
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HSPA+ ? Trust me even still in the dfw areas it's good averages 6 to 15Mbps. They don't need to roll out lte but normal consumers don't understand differences between 4g technology. And t mobile is truly using 3g but when pushed to its ultimate limits it hits 4g like speeds. But they don't people that obviously.but that's why gsm is so much better than cdma and other stuff too lol
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Thanks for the clarification
I appreciate the knowledge.
I'm also wondering when tmo gets the iphone. How much the network will suffer.
Just like the other carriers I presume.
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humdrum2009 said:
Thanks for the clarification
I appreciate the knowledge.
I'm also wondering when tmo gets the iphone. How much the network will suffer.
Just like the other carriers I presume.
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Is Tmobile still "unlimited" - 5-10GBs then throttled to hell or is it like Sprint's unlimited?

I have tmobile and one of their major slogans sort of is "the only truly unlimited data plan". Ive used like 30 gigs of data the month I have owned my note 2 and have never been throttled. Usually get around 27mb 19 down. I notice no change in speed.
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Note_2 said:
I have tmobile and one of their major slogans sort of is "the only truly unlimited data plan". Ive used like 30 gigs of data the month I have owned my note 2 and have never been throttled. Usually get around 27mb 19 down. I notice no change in speed.
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looks good in Atlanta

humdrum2009 said:
Thanks for the clarification
I appreciate the knowledge.
I'm also wondering when tmo gets the iphone. How much the network will suffer.
Just like the other carriers I presume.
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Only through being unlocked with SIM card.last time I checked.
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Is Tmobile still "unlimited" - 5-10GBs then throttled to hell or is it like Sprint's unlimited?
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No they have a plan that's 5 and 10Gb with hotspot that's throttled but if you get the unlimited 4g plan it's cheaper and better setting how we can all get hotspot for free.
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If Sprint were to release EvDo RevB or even RevC, it'd pull speeds of up to 30mbps, too. Problem is, lte becoming the new standard, it'll evolve the fastest and its cost efficient for Sprint in the long run (also cost efficient for any carrier.) This is why everyone's going to lte.
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I didn't start this to bash sprint just amazed a Tmo data speed.
I still have my sprint account with 2 lines
I'll end up selling the tmo note 2 sooner or later. I am really looking forward to Sprints new owners making major changes. Hopefully we. Get 1 year. Upgrades back. That kept me on sprint
Despite slow data and the plans $$$
But. Being A Japanese. Company I'm. Wondering if these. Guys. Have gsm plans in the future.
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humdrum2009 said:
I didn't start this to bash sprint just amazed a Tmo data speed.
I still have my sprint account with 2 lines
I'll end up selling the tmo note 2 sooner or later. I am really looking forward to Sprints new owners making major changes. Hopefully we. Get 1 year. Upgrades back. That kept me on sprint
Despite slow data and the plans $$$
But. Being A Japanese. Company I'm. Wondering if these. Guys. Have gsm plans in the future.
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Actually, I think softbank is a CDMA Carrier. I could be wrong though.
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GSM certainly has its advantages, that's why I was with T-mobile previously. The HSPA is getting pretty fast at it's peak, but there are so many times when you don't get those numbers if you are in a heavily used area.
Having said that, I switched to Sprint because they are implementing the next wave of GSM (READ: LTE-A) before T-mobile will be finished with their GSM network (Read: HSPA+42)

[Q] Can I use another 4G LTE provider?

Can I use another 4G LTE provider on the Galaxy Note II from Sprint?
I have Boost Mobile and I had a Galaxy S2 with Clear.com 4G WiMax. I now can only get 3G, and as you ALL know the 3G speed has lowered quite a bit. (200~400k vs 700~900k 3 years ago)
Another alternative I guess would be to get a Hotspot, but who wants to carry around a phone AND a hotspot when you can have them both on the phone?

I believe you can use this device on any network that is actually using Sprint towers, like MetroPCS (?) or Boost?
There are threads somewhere for instructions on flashing this.
(i'm also talking out my ass, because I have only noticed these threads in passing, never actually researched this. But I bet if you Searched a bit, you'd find the info.)
Um LOL. Like the thread right under this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060085
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kingdazy said:
I believe you can use this device on any network that is actually using Sprint towers, like MetroPCS (?) or Boost?
There are threads somewhere for instructions on flashing this.
(i'm also talking out my ass, because I have only noticed these threads in passing, never actually researched this. But I bet if you Searched a bit, you'd find the info.)
Um LOL. Like the thread right under this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060085
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Thanks for the info but that's not what I meant. I mean the 4G service, not the voice, talk, text and 3G. I have that already. (that's what the thread under this one does, help you program the Note 2 on Boost, I already did that part. I meant the 4G LTE, i.e. connecting it on Verizon's LTE or T-Mobile's (MetroPCS is now part of T-Mobile I believe?) Heck, even a Sprint LTE account if they allowed it by itself with no talk/text service would be nice.

m4f1050 said:
Thanks for the info but that's not what I meant. I mean the 4G service, not the voice, talk, text and 3G. I have that already. (that's what the thread under this one does, help you program the Note 2 on Boost, I already did that part. I meant the 4G LTE, i.e. connecting it on Verizon's LTE or T-Mobile's (MetroPCS is now part of T-Mobile I believe?) Heck, even a Sprint LTE account if they allowed it by itself with no talk/text service would be nice.
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Impossible to do first off you need to understand how technology and radios work Tmobile is GSM. Sprint and verizon are CDMA and you can only "roam" on 3g verizon with a prl that can get you kicked off, if you abuse it.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Impossible to do first off you need to understand how technology and radios work Tmobile is GSM. Sprint and verizon are CDMA and you can only "roam" on 3g verizon with a prl that can get you kicked off, if you abuse it.
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Ok, so maybe I do need to do some research. LTE is *not* like WiMax? It doesn't have separate "device" from the actual voice/text/3G radio?
LTE uses the same radio as the cellphone and 3G?

m4f1050 said:
Ok, so maybe I do need to do some research. LTE is *not* like WiMax? It doesn't have separate "device" from the actual voice/text/3G radio?
LTE uses the same radio as the cellphone and 3G?
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WiMaXX was like a WiFi connection sorta. But yeah the radios arent all compatible. Just google some of it and search around here. I cant pin point thw links oe topics but there are here and there.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
WiMaXX was like a WiFi connection sorta. But yeah the radios arent all compatible. Just google some of it and search around here. I cant pin point thw links oe topics but there are here and there.
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Nice, thanks for the info!

You can't use Verizons LTE because the frequency is different. The sprint note 2 doesn't have versions LTE frequency to pick it up.
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musclehead84 said:
You can't use Verizons LTE because the frequency is different. The sprint note 2 doesn't have versions LTE frequency to pick it up.
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Ok thanks for the info. Any other carrier with the same frequencies as Sprint? (What frequencies does MetroPCS use?)

m4f1050 said:
Ok, so maybe I do need to do some research. LTE is *not* like WiMax? It doesn't have separate "device" from the actual voice/text/3G radio?
LTE uses the same radio as the cellphone and 3G?
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Ok, my fault. I assumed you knew these things.
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Ok thanks for the info. Any other carrier with the same frequencies as Sprint? (What frequencies does MetroPCS use?)
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right there, see. Metro actually uses Sprint towers (ie, Sprint services) ... So... Same frequency.
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Ok, my fault. I assumed you knew these things.
right there, see. Metro actually uses Sprint towers (ie, Sprint services) ... So... Same frequency.
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Thanks for the info.

Thats why this galaxy note 2 is my LAST Cdma phone. For SURE getting GsM next theres plenty of carriers with 4G for it. Cdma sucks because I cant get no 4G. Before this phone had the oneX and yea 4G I miss.
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chuko303 said:
Thats why this galaxy note 2 is my LAST Cdma phone. For SURE getting GsM next theres plenty of carriers with 4G for it. Cdma sucks because I cant get no 4G. Before this phone had the oneX and yea 4G I miss.
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are you high? all game providers in the us suck. only tower owners are att and T-Mobile and T-Mobile doesn't have any real 4g neither Winmax nor lte and att has as much lte as sprint (and sprint is going to overtake att with network vision )
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reinaldistic said:
are you high? all game providers in the us suck. only tower owners are att and T-Mobile and T-Mobile doesn't have any real 4g neither Winmax nor lte and att has as much lte as sprint (and sprint is going to overtake att with network vision )
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Are u a retard? Hmm my guess im right on spot with that one. Sprint can suck it. GSM is better and if you don't agree? Take a ticket and take a seat next to the idiots that are waiting for me to give a Fuk.
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Someones a crabby pants.
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Are u a retard? Hmm my guess im right on spot with that one. Sprint can suck it. GSM is better and if you don't agree? Take a ticket and take a seat next to the idiots that are waiting for me to give a Fuk.
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I give facts and argument you insult sprint... well of course you are right. who has ever heard of the "can suck it" argument ever loosing. that's how we explained to Hitler and the Japanese emperor that he had to surrender in WW2 "Mr Hitler can suck it" -pres trueman, "since I can suck it I have ordered my forces to surrender and suggested to the Japanese to do the same"-hitler (translated to English)
if you can't give facts to support your claim you can go head and get an iPhone on a gsm network since you are using the same arguments apple uses to ensnare its sheep -i mean- customers
either that or you are an at&t rep or fanboy trying to weakarm customers away from sprint. why you aren't targeting your biggest competitor Verizon is beyond me but take that stuff to T-Mobile customers they'll eat that up like they eat their "unlimited" throttled data
one bad experience in one city with one small period of data speed downturn does not a bad carrier make
oh and mods don't blame chuko (or me) for starting arguments. arguments are healthy and help shape perception
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In all fairness, Sprint in Denver does suck... 3g speeds right now. 200 kbps and no lte. There are a few lte towers popping up. but not in the metro area. Person in the cube next to me has AT&T and hspa+ is 15mbps and lte 40mbps. Faster than the cable provider here!

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In all fairness, Sprint in Denver does suck... 3g speeds right now. 200 kbps and no lte. There are a few lte towers popping up. but not in the metro area. Person in the cube next to me has AT&T and hspa+ is 15mbps and lte 40mbps. Faster than the cable provider here!
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Thaat my friend is what I mean. Sorry for not being more specific. Colorado
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reinaldistic said:
are you high? all game providers in the us suck. only tower owners are att and T-Mobile and T-Mobile doesn't have any real 4g neither Winmax nor lte and att has as much lte as sprint (and sprint is going to overtake att with network vision )
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Tmobile has 4G LTE in almost all of New York with some decent coverage in Washington, Baltimore and Philadelphia and they're just starting.. So they actually do have real 4G lol
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RayTrue04 said:
Tmobile has 4G LTE in almost all of New York with some decent coverage in Washington, Baltimore and Philadelphia and they're just starting.. So they actually do have real 4G lol
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is it actually LTE? Or 3.5G like they have now where its up 42MBs
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Global Data Free

Big rumor going around right now TMobile will have free data roaming in over 100 countries (may make unlock un-necessary) announcement to happen tonight.... Tmobile is coming at the big boys hard lately (I am so glad that ATT deal got blocked)

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Big rumor going around right now TMobile will have free data roaming in over 100 countries (may make unlock un-necessary) announcement to happen tonight.... Tmobile is coming at the big boys hard lately (I am so glad that ATT deal got blocked)
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That's the rumor.
And the next rumor: TMob - Sprint merger, leaving 3 equal-ish sized carriers to compete, instead of 2 biggies, and 2 small fries.

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That's the rumor.
And the next rumor: TMob - Sprint merger, leaving 3 equal-ish sized carriers to compete, instead of 2 biggies, and 2 small fries.
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Well no longer a rumor only drawback is 2G speeds Still better then $15/mb roaming data rates.
20 cents a min for international calls is pretty good though.

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Well no longer a rumor only drawback is 2G speeds Still better then $15/mb roaming data rates.
20 cents a min for international calls is pretty good though.
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2g is more than enough for voip I think.

Not to mention WiFi calling would probably still work. And I really hope T-Mo and Sprint dont merge idk if thats just rumor or if its happening but NO! lol.

AdmiralCF420 said:
Not to mention WiFi calling would probably still work. And I really hope T-Mo and Sprint dont merge idk if thats just rumor or if its happening but NO! lol.
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A T-Mobile executive was quoted as saying a merger with Sprint was the "logical ultimate combination" two weeks ago. Wouldn't be so bad to add Sprint's coverage (realestate) to Tmob's, as long as CDMA is killed off with fire ASAP.

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A T-Mobile executive was quoted as saying a merger with Sprint was the "logical ultimate combination" two weeks ago. Wouldn't be so bad to add Sprint's coverage (realestate) to Tmob's, as long as CDMA is killed off with fire ASAP.
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I also wouldn't mind the extended coverage but I am afraid of Sprint's ethics and HORRIBLE customer service somehow leaking into T-Mobile's customer service. The only benefit I see is like you said the extra coverage but I am more afraid of Sprint's "bads" to creep in. And yes definitely no CDMA that would be horrible.

A T-Mobile Sprint merger would be good if CDMA, was killed off, T-Mobile had operational control, they sell the 2500mhz spectrum use the additional 1900 mhz for HSPA and use Sprints 800 mhz for LTE as well as the current 1700 mhz
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zmore said:
A T-Mobile executive was quoted as saying a merger with Sprint was the "logical ultimate combination" two weeks ago. Wouldn't be so bad to add Sprint's coverage (realestate) to Tmob's, as long as CDMA is killed off with fire ASAP.
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Hah!
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That's the rumor.
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nicotheandroidguy said:
A T-Mobile Sprint merger would be good if CDMA, was killed off, T-Mobile had operational control, they sell the 2500mhz spectrum use the additional 1900 mhz for HSPA and use Sprints 800 mhz for LTE as well as the current 1700 mhz
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You forgot one thing... Keep Sprint's unlimited data for life, cause unlimited 4G is nice. I said pretty much this same thing in some other thread. I had sprint previously, their coverage sucked, but I am happy with t mobile right now. If they do so happen to merge, I want my company discount back. With sprint, it was 23% discount. T is 15%.
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noobtoob said:
You forgot one thing... Keep Sprint's unlimited data for life, cause unlimited 4G is nice. I said pretty much this same thing in some other thread. I had sprint previously, their coverage sucked, but I am happy with t mobile right now. If they do so happen to merge, I want my company discount back. With sprint, it was 23% discount. T is 15%.
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That is true I was talking from a network point of view, but I completely agree about the keeping unlimited data for life they also should put John Legere as C.E.O he's been doing great things. I was also a Sprint customer but I switched to T-Mobile for speed and I haven't looked back.
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nicotheandroidguy said:
That is true I was talking from a network point of view, but I completely agree about the keeping unlimited data for life they also should put John Legere as C.E.O he's been doing great things. I was also a Sprint customer but I switched to T-Mobile for speed and I haven't looked back.
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Same here. But I know exactly what you mean. If sprint and t mobile merged, they would have the ability to expand further than at&t and Verizon.
It actually makes a lot of sense. They just have to nit pick the good things from each carrier.
1. 4G from t mobile.
2. New and old spectrums from Sprint.
3. Unlimited high speed data from Sprint, without a price hike.
4. GSM from t-mobile.
5. The phone policies from t mobile.
6. John Legere.
With that all being said, maybe t mobile should buy sprint instead. Looks like they have more going for them.
I also wonder what the new logo would look like. SprinT-mobile maybe?
Edit: and the t-mobile girl. If they really feel like getting rid of her, they can send her my way.
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noobtoob said:
Same here. But I know exactly what you mean. If sprint and t mobile merged, they would have the ability to expand further than at&t and Verizon.
It actually makes a lot of sense. They just have to nit pick the good things from each carrier.
1. 4G from t mobile.
2. New and old spectrums from Sprint.
3. Unlimited high speed data from Sprint, without a price hike.
4. GSM from t-mobile.
5. The phone policies from t mobile.
6. John Legere.
With that all being said, maybe t mobile should buy sprint instead. Looks like they have more going for them.
I also wonder what the new logo would look like. SprinT-mobile maybe?
Edit: and the t-mobile girl. If they really feel like getting rid of her, they can send her my way.
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That would be great if that would happen except T-Mobile's parent company Deuche Telekom unfortunately wants out of the US market and will try to sell ASAP.
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Well, that was the case, but maybe with the new announcement of free data in 100 countries, they may just change their minds. Here is hoping they either just stay the way they are, or make the smart move.
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Hello everyone, I just came back from Mexico and I used so much data, most of it was as a hot spot, and my bill does NOT have any extra charges, what a great sevice. T-MO #1!!!!!!
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What were your speeds while at mexico?
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gibrannz said:
What were your speeds while at mexico?
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I've done data roaming in a few different cities in mexico and although the speeds do get throttled I was able to do anything I needed to do within email and social media. I got a text from T-Mobile with the option to use 4g at an additional cost per day but didn't see the need. Throttled speeds should be around 128kbps
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gibrannz said:
What were your speeds while at mexico?
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For me it was ok, I was checking emails and facebook etc. T-mo offered me an extra 500mb of high speed of data for 50 dlls.
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Oppo n1 on AT&T

I'm on the AT&T network and I'm really thinking about getting this phone. I've done a lot of research and I love all of the features on this phone. The only thing that I can't find is if it's comparable on the at&t network.
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It'll work on AT&T. Just remember that it doesn't have LTE. I'm on StraightTalk, but I'm using an AT&T sim.
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How are the data speeds? Are they fast enough for 4g?
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at2smithjason said:
How are the data speeds? Are they fast enough for 4g?
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I think the best that it supports is HSDPA, which isn't great. I keep getting an "H+" symbol, but I don't see great speeds. I know that AT&T isn't exactly the best around here, so it could be the network. I can run a few speed tests around the area and see what comes up.

I've had 2 different devices on at&t's H+ network. Right now I'm on straight talk with the note1.
I average about 3-5meg download, 1-3meg upload, unless the network is jammed up.

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How are the data speeds? Are they fast enough for 4g?
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HSPA+ is more than fast enough. In fact, in many areas, AT&T's backhaul is so poor that LTE provides no speed advantage. (because, while the air interface is fast, there is insufficient bandwidth from the tower to the rest of the world. This is the case, for example, in Binghamton, NY currently.)
I've been using my N1 on AT&T for over a month - it's great!

How's call quality and reception. I live in the greater Seattle area, and sometimes calls will not go through even though they don't thru all the way to voice mail.
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How are the data speeds? Are they fast enough for 4g?

Watrs2013 said:
How are the data speeds? Are they fast enough for 4g?
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Its a 3G phone. So we are going to get at best HSPA+ speeds.

You two literally asked the exact same question, word for word. That's pretty strange.
Also, you should read other replies before asking something. Since you asked the exact same thing, you would have seen the answer to that question.
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at2smithjason said:
Its a 3G phone. So we are going to get at best HSPA+ speeds.
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Which AT&T was calling "4G" for over a year.

If you watch the XDA review of the phone, he says 3G right away. And early in this post I asked about the data speeds too and it was pointed out that its a 3G phone.

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Which AT&T was calling "4G" for over a year.
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Which in reality is 3.5G. It's the jump between 3G&4G
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Prime said:
Which in reality is 3.5G. It's the jump between 3G&4G
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More like 3.75G or so.
UMTS = 3G
HSDPA = 3.5G
HSPA+ = 3.75G
LTE = 3.9G (LTE doesn't actually meet the original requirements for 4G - only LTE Advanced does. Then the US carriers ruined it by calling HSPA+ "4G")
In the USA, LTE's main advantage is better latency for latency-sensitive applications. The bandwidth is useless given how ridiculously low our bandwidth caps are.

Either way I was thinking that the non LTE was going to be a deal breaker for me, but I dont use my data plan that much. Im mainly on wifi. So here soon I should be ordering my 32 GB version. Can someone upload some pictures please.

at2smithjason said:
Can someone upload some pictures please.
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I suggest you go through the review thread. Also Google plus has various pictures posted by the ambassadors

at2smithjason said:
Can someone upload some pictures please.
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As noted by Chod, check out this link en.oppo.com/n1pioneers. Then go to some of their G+ pages and check out their public albums. There are quite a few public pictures between them.

how do you think guys ? how many of them will be sold?
I mean oppo N1
1milion-2milions ?
more ?
less ?
I am courious couse it depends how people will trust CM team and good chinese company oppo - working together and it will influence for next one cooperative some company and CM version of phones
in other I can say that it is good connection but only peoples need to know more about how good is CM version of operating system (super fast, stable, simple and much of configureable)
I see you on wall street near and will be first person which will but some stock paper
google and apple can be worry I think ... maybe not now but in next few years they lost beacuse of you CM team!

Harfainx said:
As noted by Chod, check out this link en.oppo.com/n1pioneers. Then go to some of their G+ pages and check out their public albums. There are quite a few public pictures between them.
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I was talking about picture of the phone. I have a 13 MP shooter on my phone. I just want to see size differences.

at2smithjason said:
I was talking about picture of the phone. I have a 13 MP shooter on my phone. I just want to see size differences.
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Oh... lol I see. I'll post up some pictures next to my devices when I go home on lunch today. For now though, you can see a few at these links:
Compared to HTC One
Compared to Galaxy S4
Another with GS4