I'm on the AT&T network and I'm really thinking about getting this phone. I've done a lot of research and I love all of the features on this phone. The only thing that I can't find is if it's comparable on the at&t network.
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It'll work on AT&T. Just remember that it doesn't have LTE. I'm on StraightTalk, but I'm using an AT&T sim.
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How are the data speeds? Are they fast enough for 4g?
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How are the data speeds? Are they fast enough for 4g?
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I think the best that it supports is HSDPA, which isn't great. I keep getting an "H+" symbol, but I don't see great speeds. I know that AT&T isn't exactly the best around here, so it could be the network. I can run a few speed tests around the area and see what comes up.
I've had 2 different devices on at&t's H+ network. Right now I'm on straight talk with the note1.
I average about 3-5meg download, 1-3meg upload, unless the network is jammed up.
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HSPA+ is more than fast enough. In fact, in many areas, AT&T's backhaul is so poor that LTE provides no speed advantage. (because, while the air interface is fast, there is insufficient bandwidth from the tower to the rest of the world. This is the case, for example, in Binghamton, NY currently.)
I've been using my N1 on AT&T for over a month - it's great!
How's call quality and reception. I live in the greater Seattle area, and sometimes calls will not go through even though they don't thru all the way to voice mail.
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How are the data speeds? Are they fast enough for 4g?
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How are the data speeds? Are they fast enough for 4g?
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Its a 3G phone. So we are going to get at best HSPA+ speeds.
You two literally asked the exact same question, word for word. That's pretty strange.
Also, you should read other replies before asking something. Since you asked the exact same thing, you would have seen the answer to that question.
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Its a 3G phone. So we are going to get at best HSPA+ speeds.
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Which AT&T was calling "4G" for over a year.
If you watch the XDA review of the phone, he says 3G right away. And early in this post I asked about the data speeds too and it was pointed out that its a 3G phone.
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Which AT&T was calling "4G" for over a year.
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Which in reality is 3.5G. It's the jump between 3G&4G
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Which in reality is 3.5G. It's the jump between 3G&4G
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More like 3.75G or so.
UMTS = 3G
HSDPA = 3.5G
HSPA+ = 3.75G
LTE = 3.9G (LTE doesn't actually meet the original requirements for 4G - only LTE Advanced does. Then the US carriers ruined it by calling HSPA+ "4G")
In the USA, LTE's main advantage is better latency for latency-sensitive applications. The bandwidth is useless given how ridiculously low our bandwidth caps are.
Either way I was thinking that the non LTE was going to be a deal breaker for me, but I dont use my data plan that much. Im mainly on wifi. So here soon I should be ordering my 32 GB version. Can someone upload some pictures please.
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Can someone upload some pictures please.
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I suggest you go through the review thread. Also Google plus has various pictures posted by the ambassadors
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Can someone upload some pictures please.
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As noted by Chod, check out this link en.oppo.com/n1pioneers. Then go to some of their G+ pages and check out their public albums. There are quite a few public pictures between them.
how do you think guys ? how many of them will be sold?
I mean oppo N1
1milion-2milions ?
more ?
less ?
I am courious couse it depends how people will trust CM team and good chinese company oppo - working together and it will influence for next one cooperative some company and CM version of phones
in other I can say that it is good connection but only peoples need to know more about how good is CM version of operating system (super fast, stable, simple and much of configureable)
I see you on wall street near and will be first person which will but some stock paper
google and apple can be worry I think ... maybe not now but in next few years they lost beacuse of you CM team!
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As noted by Chod, check out this link en.oppo.com/n1pioneers. Then go to some of their G+ pages and check out their public albums. There are quite a few public pictures between them.
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I was talking about picture of the phone. I have a 13 MP shooter on my phone. I just want to see size differences.
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I was talking about picture of the phone. I have a 13 MP shooter on my phone. I just want to see size differences.
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Oh... lol I see. I'll post up some pictures next to my devices when I go home on lunch today. For now though, you can see a few at these links:
Compared to HTC One
Compared to Galaxy S4
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I read that even when t-mobile jumps on the lte band wagon in 2013, that our gs3 phones will not be able to take advantage of the new speeds (what a drag). I'm not sure if this is really the case, but I posted the link to the article below.
http://www.galaxys3newsblog.com/t-mobiles-samsung-galaxy-s3-to-miss-lte-yet-another-dissappointment/
One thing you have to remember you always want to buy a phone that works right now for you not a phone that would work better in the future, I'm happy with hspa+ and by the time I get lte from tmobile I might have another phone anyways so I think I'm cool with that, it bee discuss in another topic too
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This is true. I just thought that I would post this for those who didn't have the benefit of reading the other post. For those that don't change their phones often and intend on keeping the gs3 for some time, I thought that this was good information to help them make a well informed purchase. I hope this helped anyone that didn't know and wants to buy a gs3.
My HSPA+ speeds are consistanly faster than my friends Verizon LTE. Plus HSPA+ uses dramatically less battery. Heres my speeds in Detroit.
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One thing you have to remember you always want to buy a phone that works right now for you not a phone that would work better in the future, I'm happy with hspa+ and by the time I get lte from tmobile I might have another phone anyways so I think I'm cool with that, it bee discuss in another topic too
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+1, I owned my T-989 for less then a year before buying my T-999. At this rate I'll buy a T-1000 when it comes out in 6-8 months from now.
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My HSPA+ speeds are consistanly faster than my friends Verizon LTE. Plus HSPA+ uses dramatically less battery. Heres my speeds in Detroit.
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Same here in San Diego. Verizon was fast out of the gate but they heavily over-subscribed their network and now they are lame. AT&T is the crazy fast at the moment but I expect them to be in the same boat as Verizon this time next year.
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My HSPA+ speeds are consistanly faster than my friends Verizon LTE. Plus HSPA+ uses dramatically less battery. Heres my speeds in Detroit.
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How the heck do people get such fast download speeds? i downloaded the speedtest app and I'm only pulling about 3-4 thousand kbps with 3 bars of 4G.
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How the heck do people get such fast download speeds? i downloaded the speedtest app and I'm only pulling about 3-4 thousand kbps with 3 bars of 4G.
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Is disguise you might be only on 3g or hspa not hspa+(what tmobile calls 4g)
This is at my house hspa+
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Is disguise you might be only on 3g or hspa not hspa+(what tmobile calls 4g)
This is at my house hspa+
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My S3 is lying to me???
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My HSPA+ speeds are consistanly faster than my friends Verizon LTE. Plus HSPA+ uses dramatically less battery. Heres my speeds in Detroit.
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Why is the wifi simple active?
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My S3 is lying to me???
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Practicly yes on stock 4g shows when you connected to umts(3g), hspa and hspa+(t mobile calls this 4g cause it could go up to 42mbps) but if you changed yours to stock look ( aosp) you will see your phone going at all of them and won't stay connected to one at all times, you might no notice because their 3g is not crazy slow where you live, I have good coverage specially where I live and work so I don't mind it
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Why is the wifi simple active?
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If you see to the left it shows a town meaning is from a tower no wifi, wifi will shows different
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Honestly I dont know which one to believe. Ive read the frequency issue and one that said the T-mobile version got the 8290 chip that doesnt support LTE. I guess we will have to see when they actually launch it.
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Honestly I dont know which one to believe. Ive read the frequency issue and one that said the T-mobile version got the 8290 chip that doesnt support LTE. I guess we will have to see when they actually launch it.
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It does have LTE, just like the T-989 did, its just disabled by default. You can access this setting by opening the dialer and typing *#*#4636#*#*, and selecting radio type.
I need to get a new phone every year it just gets boring ... as soon as a good quad core comes out I'm outta here.
Can't stop consuming need moar
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Practicly yes on stock 4g shows when you connected to umts(3g), hspa and hspa+(t mobile calls this 4g cause it could go up to 42mbps) but if you changed yours to stock look ( aosp) you will see your phone going at all of them and won't stay connected to one at all times, you might no notice because their 3g is not crazy slow where you live, I have good coverage specially where I live and work so I don't mind it
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Ive rooted and mine shows H+ but the most i get is 5500kbps download and I live in the Los Angeles area, no idea how you guys are getting those insane speeds
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Ive rooted and mine shows H+ but the most i get is 5500kbps download and I live in the Los Angeles area, no idea how you guys are getting those insane speeds
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It just depends on where you are and how many people are connected to the netowk like LA is too pack, too many people lives there my speeds are slower there too
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I was thinking of getting another phone soon to replace my crappy Sensation and from my brief research, the GS3 may or may not have it in the hardware to support T-Mobile's upcoming LTE network. With the One X+ cancelled, am I only left with the GNote 2? I'm really not trying to carry that big of a phone around . Will there be any announcements by T-Mobile in the upcoming months to release phones for the holiday season? I'm keeping my fingers crossed . Thanks in advance for any insight or details.
The T-Mobile S3 will NOT connect to their future LTE network. The Note 2 probably won't either. Their LTE network is even close to ready to begin rolling out.
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The note 2 is the closest one to get lte it pass by fcc by 1900aws and 700(Verizon band), they were rumors of tmobile making arrangements with Verizon so we probably get it then (if you have a supported device) having said that I don't worry I get up to 24 mbps on tmobile and love it, I use 20GB last month with unlimited so ain't going anywhere for a while
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I get about 10-13 Mbps download with my S3 and it's more then suffice. While I'm sure it's be nice to be able to download at LTE speeds, I don't see the "necessity" of it.
I'm perfectly happy with my S3.
The Note II for T-Mobile has 700/1700 MHz bands for LTE.
T-Mobile Galaxy Note II Passes Through The FCC, Is Future Proofed With LTE
The s4
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Title should be changed to, what's T-Mobile's first lte phone? lol
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Title should be changed to, what's T-Mobile's first lte phone? lol
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Title should be changed to, what's T-Mobile's first lte phone? lol
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The note 2, maybe read the OP next time.
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The note 2, maybe read the OP next time.
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Maybe you should give that quote another read...take your time.
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psykhotic said:
The note 2, maybe read the OP next time.
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Lol this guy, too funny
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I get about 10-13 Mbps download with my S3 and it's more then suffice. While I'm sure it's be nice to be able to download at LTE speeds, I don't see the "necessity" of it.
I'm perfectly happy with my S3.
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I couldn't agree more. I've seen very impressive speeds from 4G on SGS3... While I'm sure getting 30-60 mbps down (seems average on other LTE networks) is really cool, its more of a signature spec - or bragging spec... 10mbps+ on 4G is plenty fast for me, especially considering I've been using an iPhone on T-mobile for years stuck on 2G EDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4G is like LUDACRIS SPEED for me (anyone? spaceballs? anyone???)
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I couldn't agree more. I've seen very impressive speeds from 4G on SGS3... While I'm sure getting 30-60 mbps down (seems average on other LTE networks) is really cool, its more of a signature spec - or bragging spec... 10mbps+ on 4G is plenty fast for me, especially considering I've been using an iPhone on T-mobile for years stuck on 2G EDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4G is like LUDACRIS SPEED for me (anyone? spaceballs? anyone???)
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+2 i always tell people that the difference isn't that much when most of the stuff we use it for isn't are all small stuff... besides Roms. And even with that the difference is probably a couple second
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On Verizon's LTE, I pulled on average 15-25mbps. It peaked out at about 30. On T-Mobile's Faux-G, I pull on average 10-20 mbps. I peak out at about 25.
LTE is not noticeably better in any way other than speed tests. Latency had been about 100ms for both as well. Primary difference had been LTE outages on Verizon seemed to last 12-72 hours whereas HSPA+ outages on T-Mobile seem to last 30-600 seconds.
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Just in case you guys dont know, the Note 2 WILL support lte for tmo here is the source..
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mobile-galaxy-note-ii-passes-through-the-fcc-is-future-proofed-with-lte/
S3 it is. I've seen some hovering around $350 in my area so that will do. I just can't stand this HTC Sensation and the reboots any longer. Thanks all for the replies.
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S3 it is. I've seen some hovering around $350 in my area so that will do. I just can't stand this HTC Sensation and the reboots any longer. Thanks all for the replies.
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You have to be careful. If they're going to file an insurance claim on it. Your phone will be blacklisted
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Araltd said:
I couldn't agree more. I've seen very impressive speeds from 4G on SGS3... While I'm sure getting 30-60 mbps down (seems average on other LTE networks) is really cool, its more of a signature spec - or bragging spec... 10mbps+ on 4G is plenty fast for me, especially considering I've been using an iPhone on T-mobile for years stuck on 2G EDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4G is like LUDACRIS SPEED for me (anyone? spaceballs? anyone???)
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30-60 is average? I've never seen anyone around here go faster than 22 mbps and in that context, my GS3 gets 15-16. The difference isn't very large at all.
First of all don't get T-mobile their HSPA+ Network gives me 0-0.50Mbs around all Brooklyn, even if signal is below -60dBm
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You have to be careful. If they're going to file an insurance claim on it. Your phone will be blacklisted
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Any way to prevent this from happening? Make a phone call before buying? Call tmob customer service?
By the way, since the Note 2 will be coming out by the end of this month or maybe early November, I think a lot of people will try to dump their GS3 to upgrade. Will craigslist prices lower? I'm seeing 300-350 on average right now.
I've been seeing news rumors saying Tmobile maybe the first to run 5G...what do you guys think? I haven't seen any LTE yet even...this maybe just BS. On the other hand, Tmo just worked on LTE...so maybe it still easy for them to reprogram to 5G...? Anyone got the inside scoop?
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/t-mobile-first-5g-lte-advanced/
I wouldn't say this is BS, but calling LTE-A 5G is BS. Really I think T-mobile wants to have the fastest 4G network and they may call it "5G" if they got 300mbs+ out of it, but I really think they should start rolling out 4G LTE across there 2G foot print.
They're all marketing terms, and their meanings change. Most of the current "4G" infrastructure is more like 3.5G since it falls so far short of the original design specifications.
LTE-Advanced is probably going to be billed as 5G, but it's more like what 4G was originally supposed to mean. Cheap and greedy telcos sold us short and marketed the intermediate steps as the final product.
2G, 3G, 4G used to purely mean something, but now the "label" has shifted to more around the raw speed regardless of the infrastructure. A great example is TM with their HSPA+ calling it 4G, which (like one mentioned) is more like 3.5G.
However, TM's HSPA+ (3.5ish G) in some areas can whoop on other carriers LTE. Look at my sig; great example.
Although TM was last in the race for the LTE infrastructure, TM has the most expandable infrastructure over all the other carriers. Very smart move. Why? Because if the other carriers wanted to expand they would have to put in place a completely new infrastructure for their next generation network, whereas TM can just expand on their current (New LTE) infrastructure. Now the tides have shifted.
So 5G for TM? When the time comes, yes TM would be the first to have it since they have the ability to build on their current platform without the hassle of putting in a new one.
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I've been seeing news rumors saying Tmobile maybe the first to run 5G...what do you guys think? I haven't seen any LTE yet even...this maybe just BS. On the other hand, Tmo just worked on LTE...so maybe it still easy for them to reprogram to 5G...? Anyone got the inside scoop?
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/t-mobile-first-5g-lte-advanced/
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I find it amusing that cellular providers in the US are making more progress on data speeds than our ISPs.
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I find it amusing that cellular providers in the US are making more progress on data speeds than our ISPs.
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Verizon Fios is not available in my area. Uverse also not available unless I pay 100+ option. Only option I have is Uverse DSL...which is crappy and about 80% reliability. Cable is pricey and fail miserably on jitter test. My new friend is $10 (unlimited talk from Tmobile to replace my home phone. Tmobile $20 unlimited data to replace my home DSL. I hope Google Fiber becomes available in OC area soon someday.
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I find it amusing that cellular providers in the US are making more progress on data speeds than our ISPs.
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finally ! :laugh:
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I find it amusing that cellular providers in the US are making more progress on data speeds than our ISPs.
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I think it's a lot more time and money that's needed to run new cable/fiber to each and every home than replacing a cell tower or two every block..
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Google fiber is a game changer for the USA. Other countries have much better speeds at much cheaper prices. Google is forcing other carriers to step up. Time Warner is already ****ing there pants in places where Google fiber already rolled out.
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Lol. Really guys? 5G refers to the Wi-Fi technology used. 802.11ac.
Here's an article about it:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/samsungs-galaxy-s4-signals-shift-to-faster-wi-fi-2013-03-15
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LTE is faster than my home cable Internet...
Honestly, I don't think our phones need the kind of bandwidth LTE 4G offers. Not with bandwidth caps anyway...
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Honestly yeah ... we don't need lte .... we already getting more 10mbps thats fast enough for me if I want really fast internet I would just connect to my wifi ... thats just me ...
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I'm still waiting for LTE in California. I get dial up speeds unless I head for a larger city. They shouldn't even mention new technology until completely rolling out LTE to more cities.
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Lol. Really guys? 5G refers to the Wi-Fi technology used. 802.11ac.
Here's an article about it:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/samsungs-galaxy-s4-signals-shift-to-faster-wi-fi-2013-03-15
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Lol. 5G. Now there are gonna be people out there bragging about their 5g phone. People are idiots.
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Lol. 5G. Now there are gonna be people out there bragging about their 5g phone. People are idiots.
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We're not talking about WiFi. Samsung has started mobile tests that are 100 times faster than LTE. T-Mobile is rumored to be the 1st carrier in the world to utilize it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nigamar...kthrough-points-to-long-term-risks-for-apple/
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Lol. Really guys? 5G refers to the Wi-Fi technology used. 802.11ac.
Here's an article about it:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/samsungs-galaxy-s4-signals-shift-to-faster-wi-fi-2013-03-15
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Really guy...
That's a different 5G. This thread is about mobile data not wifi.
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Yeah he talking about mobile data 5G Google it.
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SKT and KT are going LTE-A later this year, collab with Samsung of course.. (South Korea) I do not see any reason for TMO not to invest on the forthcoming future.
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Yeah really, I still facepalm at Cincinnati Bell putting up advertizements on the billboards about FiOptics when some of those places don't even get it! OTOH I'm surprised cell companies don't offer unlimited (fast) internet on their internet sticks.. if that happened I'd dump my ADSL and go with a stick.
However, I still find it amusing that cell companies still push tiered data plans (thankfully Tmo no longer does this...)
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Yeah really, I still facepalm at Cincinnati Bell putting up advertizements on the billboards about FiOptics when some of those places don't even get it! OTOH I'm surprised cell companies don't offer unlimited (fast) internet on their internet sticks.. if that happened I'd dump my ADSL and go with a stick.
However, I still find it amusing that cell companies still push tiered data plans (thankfully Tmo no longer does this...)
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I'm glad they do. People are going to be using cell phones to provide themselves with home internet. The isps need to get with the program here. T-Mobile actually has a "grace period" of tethering for this sole reason. Fibre and xFinity are prolly the only ones faster than some cell companies. It's pitiful.
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I live in Hesperia, CA. Tmobile 4g network blows here. I just did a speed test and the testing app showed I had a 3g connection while the status bar icon showed it as 4g(screenie added) what's up with that is tmo lying to me? Saying I'm connected to 4g when I'm actually not... I never get above 200kbps during the day, at night I can get 1500kbps but that sucks too. I'm getting so frustrated I switched from metro and their network was better. I got 2500kbps from them.
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Wanted to add a speedtest screenie also.
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Flash a different modem bro.
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I guess you can go to the extreme of saying tmobile is lying to you, but in reality no they're not. "4g" just shows when data activity is happening. You are barely over edge speeds though. I would say try different radios and such and look at the map from this post and play around to see which will help you specifically. In the mean time put your phone to edge only so you stop wasting battery lol. [Baseband] ALL T999(V) Modems! w/ MAP and Data Tweaks!
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They are misleading intentionally.
Start a big download and go to the dialer, input *#0011#. Take note of the band you are on (2 or 4) and which items have a 1 on them out of HSPA and HSDPA. If you are on band 2 and see a one next to either of those options, you can try forcing 1700 by using *#2263# and choosing it under WCDMA. This will cause you to lose service if you have poor 1700 coverage, particularly for voice calls but you can always set it back by going back to the main 2263 menu and hitting automatic.
If those don't work or you see zeroes have you gone into phone status to see if you have an IMEI? Because that will lock you to UMTS. Shortcut to find out - *#06#
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Start a big download and go to the dialer, input *#0011#. Take note of the band you are on (2 or 4) and which items have a 1 on them out of HSPA and HSDPA. If you are on band 2 and see a one next to either of those options, you can try forcing 1700 by using *#2263# and choosing it under WCDMA. This will cause you to lose service if you have poor 1700 coverage, particularly for voice calls but you can always set it back by going back to the main 2263 menu and hitting automatic.
If those don't work or you see zeroes have you gone into phone status to see if you have an IMEI? Because that will lock you to UMTS. Shortcut to find out - *#06#
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I've tried this using *#0011# and I get an error. I put *#06# and it showed my IMEI yet I was unable to still use those two codes.
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jordeeeezy said:
I've tried this using *#0011# and I get an error. I put *#06# and it showed my IMEI yet I was unable to still use those two codes.
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I was assuming that you were on a TouchWiz ROM (these codes only work on the Samsung dialer) based on the fact that you had a 4G icon up there - if you're not on stock, there's not an easy way to troubleshoot. If you are on stock, you have to use the built in dialer, not a third party app.
Its worth the time to go to a TW ROM to try to troubleshoot it but if your IMEI came up fine then its less worth the hassle. Wish I could help you out more but it looks like you might be in a highly congested area on the network :/
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I was assuming that you were on a TouchWiz ROM (these codes only work on the Samsung dialer) based on the fact that you had a 4G icon up there - if you're not on stock, there's not an easy way to troubleshoot. If you are on stock, you have to use the built in dialer, not a third party app.
Its worth the time to go to a TW ROM to try to troubleshoot it but if your IMEI came up fine then its less worth the hassle. Wish I could help you out more but it looks like you might be in a highly congested area on the network :/
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my apologies. i was on liquidsmooth with uvmd5 and didnt understand why my download speeds were so slow so i wanted to check what this was all about. im currently switching between uvlja and uvli8 to see which modem works best in my area.
I was on uvlja when I started having the issues so I upgraded to uvmd5 and I am still having the problems. I'm not so sure anymore that the modems are the problem. I'm running DarthstalkerX2 I've been using these roms for quite a while but I've only been experiencing these issues for a couple of months.
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This is weird....
Evertime I try to post in the general thread, it shows up here!
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Figured it out...
I'm in the Fresno, CA area, and I've been running the UVDM5 modem for a few days. I noticed it has much slower upload speeds, while downloads are a little bit lower compared to the UVLJA
Ok everyone tmobile finally admitted to me that I am in a HORRIBLY BAD congested area of their network. No ETA on a fix either. I was given the option to return the phone cancel service and move on at no extra charge. I have until the 27th to make my decision. What should I do. Stay or go?
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Ok everyone tmobile finally admitted to me that I am in a HORRIBLY BAD congested area of their network. No ETA on a fix either. I was given the option to return the phone cancel service and move on at no extra charge. I have until the 27th to make my decision. What should I do. Stay or go?
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If they are admitting it then it must be *REALLY* bad... If data speeds are more important than pricing to you, I say jump ship.
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Ok everyone tmobile finally admitted to me that I am in a HORRIBLY BAD congested area of their network. No ETA on a fix either. I was given the option to return the phone cancel service and move on at no extra charge. I have until the 27th to make my decision. What should I do. Stay or go?
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Wow! that is a rare thing indeed! Good luck on whatever you decide!
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racinmason001 said:
I live in Hesperia, CA. Tmobile 4g network blows here. I just did a speed test and the testing app showed I had a 3g connection while the status bar icon showed it as 4g(screenie added) what's up with that is tmo lying to me? Saying I'm connected to 4g when I'm actually not... I never get above 200kbps during the day, at night I can get 1500kbps but that sucks too. I'm getting so frustrated I switched from metro and their network was better. I got 2500kbps from them.
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T-Mo is not lying. You're still on their 4G network, but as someone mentioned, it's probably congested. Additionally, for most areas, T-Mo's 3G and 4G network is the exact same technology. If you're paying for the 4G service, they take the "speed limiter" off. Simple as that. Most likely a bad area of Cali for T-Mobile.
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T-Mo is not lying. You're still on their 4G network, but as someone mentioned, it's probably congested. Additionally, for most areas, T-Mo's 3G and 4G network is the exact same technology. If you're paying for the 4G service, they take the "speed limiter" off. Simple as that. Most likely a bad area of Cali for T-Mobile.
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I'd like to see your sources for this because 3G UMTS, 3.5G HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+, and true 4G LTE are all different technologies. UMTS maxes out at 384Kbps, HSDPA ranges from 7 to 21Mbps, HSPA+ is up to 21Mbps but includes HSUPA for up to 5.76Mbps upload, and DC-HSPA+ is up to 42Mbps on the downlink with the same 5.76Mbps upload of standard HSPA+. 4G LTE can exceed 100Mbps.
While its true that they all operate off of wideband CDMA technology, they are NOT the same and require tower upgrades... T-Mobile does not discriminate based on your data plan. They discriminate based on your data usage compared to the plan you purchased and throttle you when you exceed what you paid for. Plain and simple.
Get your facts straight before you spout off nonsense.
EDIT: I am not aware if T-Mobile has deployed pico cells for UMTS anywhere but if they have, UMTS can go up to 2Mbps on a pico cell.
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I'd like to see your sources for this because 3G UMTS, 3.5G HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+, and true 4G LTE are all different technologies. UMTS maxes out at 384Kbps, HSDPA ranges from 7 to 21Mbps, HSPA+ is up to 21Mbps but includes HSUPA for up to 5.76Mbps upload, and DC-HSPA+ is up to 42Mbps on the downlink with the same 5.76Mbps upload of standard HSPA+. 4G LTE can exceed 100Mbps.
While its true that they all operate off of wideband CDMA technology, they are NOT the same and require tower upgrades... T-Mobile does not discriminate based on your data plan. They discriminate based on your data usage compared to the plan you purchased and throttle you when you exceed what you paid for. Plain and simple.
Get your facts straight before you spout off nonsense.
EDIT: I am not aware if T-Mobile has deployed pico cells for UMTS anywhere but if they have, UMTS can go up to 2Mbps on a pico cell.
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And, you're getting mad... for what? You need to chill. I have no idea why people get such superior attitudes when they correct someone.
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And, you're getting mad... for what? You need to chill. I have no idea why people get such superior attitudes when they correct someone.
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Who said I was getting mad? You would know if I was. I'm just blunt.
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Who said I was getting mad? You would know if I was. I'm just blunt.
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And, honest about your misplaced superiority complex.
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So I have the S4 now and I've been complaining to T-Mobile about the poor download speeds in neighborhood in Brooklyn, NYC as if I live in the boondocks. I finally got a response from T-Mobile saying that oh well it looks like there isn't enough bandwidth in your area and there's nothing you can do. Which is ironic considering the slew of ads they have bashing AT&Ts bandwidth and bragging how great they are (BS). See attached for the wonderful LTE speeds I get. And it's all the time as you can see, not based on time and the network being clogged up. I work in midtown Manhattan where between 10AM and 6PM the network is barely useable to which they said "well a lot of people are probably on it".
I'm surprised they didn't tell me to move somewhere else.
Basically I'm getting tired of all the LTE posts I'm seeing on here
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Shot in the dark here but do you have any HSPA in your area? This thread gives some tips you can use to drastically increase speeds. Seems to have worked for most people.
LTE? that's only 4G. not LTE
That sucks, but like the other guy said, that's just regular 4G and not 4G LTE, big difference as I got a few patches of LTE here where I am, and it's at least 4 times faster for me,
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That sucks, but like the other guy said, that's just regular 4G and not 4G LTE, big difference as I got a few patches of LTE here where I am, and it's at least 4 times faster for me,
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Here's the so called LTE. Notice the upload speed is higher then the download so something is strange.
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Shot in the dark here but do you have any HSPA in your area? This thread gives some tips you can use to drastically increase speeds. Seems to have worked for most people.
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Thanks I'll look into this although like I said I was told I'd never get increased speeds due to the bandwidth.
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Next year would be the time to start pitching the complaints just because they said at the end of 2013 it should be completely implemented but I've been with Tmobile from the beginning and they have bent over backwards to make me happy.
LTE is still in the beginning phase of being introduced so yes some people will be lucky enough to have early use but pitching a fit because your not one of the few that have it this early on is useless.
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Is Brooklyn even one of the officially supported areas? Or is LTE on but not officially?
Even since they started rolling out LTE in my area my 4g has gone to crap. I get mostly the same speed as the OP now when I used to get 8mbps prior to LTE roll out. It happened at home and now its happening at my work. I really hate it cause inside my work I dont get LTE and just get 4g. And at home I get LTE a block a way but no LTE where my house is so I'm stuck with the new slower 4g.
Man. Those speeds you posted were faster than I usually used to get with Sprint. In the Chicago area, my last three T-Mobile tests are:
5644 kbps / 1590 kbps
7183 kbps / 1074 kbps
8036 kbps / 6006 kbps (LTE in moving train)
14983 kbps / 12024 kbps (LTE stable)
Not bad.
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Here's the so called LTE. Notice the upload speed is higher then the download so something is strange.
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Not sure if this test is valid looks like you had WIFI on at the time.
You're getting low pings (66ms) and over 1Mbps, which is plenty for a mobile device IMO.
Did you try and change your apn to fast.tmobile.com? I had slow speed too then changed my apn now its back to good speeds
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Even since they started rolling out LTE in my area my 4g has gone to crap. I get mostly the same speed as the OP now when I used to get 8mbps prior to LTE roll out. It happened at home and now its happening at my work. I really hate it cause inside my work I dont get LTE and just get 4g. And at home I get LTE a block a way but no LTE where my house is so I'm stuck with the new slower 4g.
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Same here the 4G used to be great and where I live if I go over a couple blocks it'll switch to LTE but my house is 4G with terrible speeds where I used to get 5-6mb. At my job in Manhattan I get LTE and the speeds are great (10mb+) until like 9AM when it goes down to 2-3mb but it gets to the point I can't even stream a YouTube video.
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Not sure if this test is valid looks like you had WIFI on at the time.
You're getting low pings (66ms) and over 1Mbps, which is plenty for a mobile device IMO.
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That test was at my job where I have no WiFi. The test was a previous test about a week ago. The Wi-Fi you see enabled is because I took a screenshot while at home this morning. The test is done on LTE if you look at the network type listed.
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Jamenglish said:
Did you try and change your apn to fast.tmobile.com? I had slow speed too then changed my apn now its back to good speeds
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The default was set to that already
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Next year would be the time to start pitching the complaints just because they said at the end of 2013 it should be completely implemented but I've been with Tmobile from the beginning and they have bent over backwards to make me happy.
LTE is still in the beginning phase of being introduced so yes some people will be lucky enough to have early use but pitching a fit because your not one of the few that have it this early on is useless.
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I have the HTC One on AT&T and SGS4 on TMO. I've found outside of AT&T's LTE area TMO being faster, but not always. AT&T seems more consistant everywhere I go, TMO, there's either drop to edte, no service, or killler speeds. I have not hate to either carriers, nor a fanboi of any of them nor any device.
Long story on why I have both, basically had to do with credits owned me on TMO and sales of older devices I had right out.
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I have the HTC One on AT&T and SGS4 on TMO. I've found outside of AT&T's LTE area TMO being faster, but not always. AT&T seems more consistant everywhere I go, TMO, there's either drop to edte, no service, or killler speeds. I have not hate to either carriers, nor a fanboi of any of them nor any device.
Long story on why I have both, basically had to do with credits owned me on TMO and sales of older devices I had right out.
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I don't think you get the point I was making, I could see being mad if LTE was out for a few years and your being told you should have it on Tmobile but it's just starting literally. This has nothing to do with att and their coverage but I've had att and Verizon in the past and no Cell carrier can promise perfect coverage.
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So I have the S4 now and I've been complaining to T-Mobile about the poor download speeds in neighborhood in Brooklyn, NYC as if I live in the boondocks. I finally got a response from T-Mobile saying that oh well it looks like there isn't enough bandwidth in your area and there's nothing you can do. Which is ironic considering the slew of ads they have bashing AT&Ts bandwidth and bragging how great they are (BS). See attached for the wonderful LTE speeds I get. And it's all the time as you can see, not based on time and the network being clogged up. I work in midtown Manhattan where between 10AM and 6PM the network is barely useable to which they said "well a lot of people are probably on it".
I'm surprised they didn't tell me to move somewhere else.
Basically I'm getting tired of all the LTE posts I'm seeing on here
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Damn thats fast buddy!!! Lol
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I did a test in Brooklyn yesterday and I got 24mbs download and 8 upload on LTE.